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Hyperbaric chamber treatments and lymes?

Started today with hyperbaric treatments to try and kick the spirochete out in the open so my doxy can kill it!  Would welcome any thoughts on it.    
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have you heard of oxygen ozone therapy?they offer a few different types.its all natural and safe .div therapy takes8 mins.per treatment.autohemotherapy filters the blood removing the dead bacteria so internal organs dont have to work as hard.its been used for over 50 years  .it helps a wide range of problems.
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Thanks.....your probably right.    I'm going to call one on Tuesday.   Also need to  ask doctor if I can take cats claw at same time with antibiotics.  
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You might consider seeing an ophthalmologist -- an MD who specializes in eyes, not an optometrist or optician.  Ophthalmologists are surprisingly clued in about Lyme disease, unlike many other speciality docs.
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Wanted to give everyone an update on my treatments.  I have done 20 so far and have to say I felt the added oxogen did exactly what we wanted by exposing or agitating the bacteria. I am however experiencing one side effect that is making me discontinue for a little bit.   My vision has been changing since I started.  I can see close things now and seeing distance things worse.  So I'm giving it a break till I find out if my vision goes back in the next couple of weeks.   I'm disappointed cause I really feel it was working.  
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Thanks guys I will email my doctor on Friday.    Happy new year!   I think I'm getting good results from hbot treatments kicking up the spirochete and antibiotics getting to them.    Feel it        
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Most co-infections are treated by symptoms only. I was lucky that my Bartonella test came back positive but my Babesia came back negative even though my symptoms were off the charts. My LLMD treated me for Babs anyway.
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I'm not clear on why doxy would be used to bring the Lyme bacteria out of the biofilm where they like to hide (if I am understanding accurately your doc's intentions).

The basic problem with doxy is that it is most useful very, very early after the time of the initial infection -- and *not* after the Lyme bacteria have created slimy biofilms to hide in, because the doxy can't penetrate the biofilms, to my understanding.  Other medications can do that, and are often paired with other antibiotics which will kill specific bacteria after the biofilms are breached.  One med to break down the castle door; the other med to kill the bad guys inside.

You might ask your doc about this, if you want to.  It may be that the doc is just medicating while waiting for the test results, but my doc simply waited for the test results rather than use antibiotics which might be ineffective or, if used for only a short time against susceptible bacteria, cause those bacteria to become resistant to that particular medication.  

Two months seems a long time to not have the test results back yet.  Which lab is your doc using?

Let us know what your doc says and what you do and how it goes, okay?   All good wishes!
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Yes.   But unfortunately  we still don't have the definitive blood work.   So still going on symptoms and past results over last two months.   So we agreed to try this to get the bacteria out.    ?    
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Ditto mojo's comment -- good call.
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Mepron is used to treat the co-infection Babesia. Did your LLMD discuss that with you?
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Hi Jackie, wanted to keep you and everyone up to date on my progress Had my second 30 day appointment follow up with llmd today.   We discussed last 30 days of symptoms. And agreed that the doxy has not run it's course yet  so we are continuing that (400mgs) day   Both agreed the hyperbaric treatments are agitating bacteria so continuing that. And lastly.  She wants me to go a month on mepron. With doxy to see how we feel after 30days and whether it helps kick the spirochete out in the open.   Feel better.   Still have symptoms ( numbness arms and legs ) but less severe.    No real joint pain. And very few days with foggy head if at all.  30 days ago wanted to stay in bed and sleep.   Did that for almost 3 weeks.  My llmd is very curious about the hyperbaric treatments because of the increase in oxogen in the cells and how bacteria usually hates that.  Unfortunately very expensive and not normally insured.  I'm very lucky a friend of mine owns the facility I go to and wants me to get well at his expense.   Very nice of him.    
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If no one has specific names for you, try searching online for something like

   --- georgia lyme disease ---

and you will find local groups who can likely give you leads to Lyme docs near you.

You might also begin a new thread here (titled something like 'Need LLMD near Savannah GA' or wherever you are) so that it catches the eye of anyone visiting here.
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Need a LLMD in Ga. Anyone can refer a LLMD in Ga???
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You might also find zinc supplementation to be beneficial while you are going through the treatments.  It is an essential component of the enzyme carbonic anydrase which helps remove carbon dioxide from the tissues, thus allowing space for more oxygen.
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Hey Jamie, I attended a lecture by Dr. Perlmutter (Perlmutter Hyperbaric Center in Florida, author of Wheat Brain, etc.) and I was quite impressed.

However, there's something equally impressive that you and everyone else
here should look into. MSM (Methylsulfonylmethane), a naturally occurring sulfur compound.
Sulfur, Selinium and Tellurium are oxygen transporters, bringing oxygen to all the cells in the body.
Sulfur intake from MSM chrystaline supplementation, has the distinct advantage (besides its low cost and lack of side effects) that also helps with undermethylation issues (due to gene mutations like MTHFR, ongoing biological stress and other factors)something all Lyme's sufferers should be concerned with, as it is common with chronic Lyme's.
MTHFR gene mutations, affect at various degrees up to 50% of the population and this could be much higher in chronic Lyme's.

If you want to take a potential huge load off your Lyme's disease, consider
improving methylation status (you can't change your genes but you can by-pass some mutations-epigenetics & nutrigenetics) &optimize oxygen delivery to your cells.

Note: MSM is not recommended for anyone with a CBS gene mutation,
(very low prevalence) as this will cause intolerance to sulfates or other forms of sulfur, resulting in excess ammonia and hydrogen sulfide.

Hope this helps.
Niko


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Very interesting!  Thank you for the reporting.  We will look forward to hearing more -- take care!
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Ok. So I finished with 3 treatments. A 1.5 hr session each day in a oxogen chamber.  Not bad.   They have to take every precaution, checking ear passages , blood pressure and body temp. Before you go in and after.   Unfortunately you have to go to a pressure of 2.4 about to drive out the spirochete as they say.    This can be a little hard with some peoples ears.  I haven't experienced that thank goodness.     I'm on my doxy as well. 400 mg.  just finishing my 5th. Week.   I have to say I feel a little better, have almost all my energy.  However I still have a little foggy ness in my head.   I do believe that the treatments have at the very least agitated the bacteria.   To early to give it a stamp yet.   They tell me approximately 20 visits!   I've only done three.  So.   I need to keep monitoring my symptoms for everyone.    My original symptoms again where numbness in legs, forearms, face and knee joint pain.   So far all have been less severe since starting with doxy.    
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Please post back after your treatments -- it would be interesting and very helpful to those posting here.  I did some reading on the approach last night.  

Best wishes!
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That was my thinking only.  There is a dr. In virginia area using it now in his treatment.  He's a well known lymes doctor.   Watched a video on you tube that he had done.    
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An increase in your oxygen level however will be a big help.  Some of your immune cells use oxygen products in what is known as the respiratory burst to do some killing.  
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There is a website called 'Quackwatch', which includes commentary about various non-mainstream-medicine approaches to treating Lyme.  They are not keen on HBOT, but then again they are also not keen on a whole lot of other treatment approaches taken by Lyme docs.  

Reading everything you can find, pro and con, about any treatment one is about to undertake for Lyme etc. is highly recommended ... though when you've got Lyme, you may not have the concentration or memory to deal with it all.  That's where a good doc comes in useful.

I would do all the reading you can find, pro and con, about any treatment, and make as informed decision as possible.
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