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British TV Will Show Assisted Suicide
Okay I read this story the guy had LG. He stated he would rather die a quick death rather than a long and painful one.
I have told my wife a long time ago if I am on a machine and I dont have much of a chance unplug it there is no need to make a Dr rich.
So my question is if you found out you were dieing from a disease that has no cure and you got to the point someone was having to take care of you would you want to do yourself in???
I would just for the fact I really dont want a painful death I would assume to go in my sleep but we dont get to pick what we may die of I guess it just happens.
I have told my wife a long time ago if I am on a machine and I dont have much of a chance unplug it there is no need to make a Dr rich.
So my question is if you found out you were dieing from a disease that has no cure and you got to the point someone was having to take care of you would you want to do yourself in???
I would just for the fact I really dont want a painful death I would assume to go in my sleep but we dont get to pick what we may die of I guess it just happens.
Suicide in Australia and Great Britain was also considered illegal. The laws have been modified somewhat now so that in the event a person who tried to commit suicide and did not succeed could be taken into custody and give the proper medical assistance they need to help them. (Just as you wrote in your thread regarding the laws in the US).
But a person committing suicide because of depression or such is an entirely different scenario to what is being called "Assisted Suicide". That is illegal in Australia and Great Britain. If the wife had of helped her husband in either of these two countries she would with out a doubt be arrested and charged with a crime. Going by recent events, there is also little doubt that she would serve jail time.
That is the reason why she and her husband left the UK and went abroad to a country that did not deem it illegal. When she returns to the UK she can not be charged with a crime because she did not commit one there. Though that's not to say they may not try.
Essentially that was the reason the video tape was made. It was meant to show that "Assisted Suicide" was a peaceful way to end ones life when there is no hope. There is more to the video, actually it is a full documentary of the man and what he has gone through and how he came to the very difficult decision he did. There is also interviews with doctors and specialist's that confirm his condition will only deteriorate until he is in a totally vegetable state. Ultimately, it was made to help persuade government to change the laws.
But of course, as with most things the media aired and viewed it out of its full context.
Someone wrote earlier on this thread, something to the effect of "making this video was disgusting". The actual reason for the video is far from disgusting. What is disgusting is how the media made it into something it wasn't.
What needs to be remembered is, the Real reason people want Assisted Suicide and Euthanasia made legal. And it certainly isn't to enable perfectly healthy people to end their life just because they are having a bad day or those suffering from depression or any other such illness. It is intended for those that need it and make that choice if and when a choice needs to be made.
In a perfect world, we wouldn't need such laws but we don't live in a perfect world. But I would hope that we still live in a world with compassion and I hope that when it is time, I am extended that compassion.
But a person committing suicide because of depression or such is an entirely different scenario to what is being called "Assisted Suicide". That is illegal in Australia and Great Britain. If the wife had of helped her husband in either of these two countries she would with out a doubt be arrested and charged with a crime. Going by recent events, there is also little doubt that she would serve jail time.
That is the reason why she and her husband left the UK and went abroad to a country that did not deem it illegal. When she returns to the UK she can not be charged with a crime because she did not commit one there. Though that's not to say they may not try.
Essentially that was the reason the video tape was made. It was meant to show that "Assisted Suicide" was a peaceful way to end ones life when there is no hope. There is more to the video, actually it is a full documentary of the man and what he has gone through and how he came to the very difficult decision he did. There is also interviews with doctors and specialist's that confirm his condition will only deteriorate until he is in a totally vegetable state. Ultimately, it was made to help persuade government to change the laws.
But of course, as with most things the media aired and viewed it out of its full context.
Someone wrote earlier on this thread, something to the effect of "making this video was disgusting". The actual reason for the video is far from disgusting. What is disgusting is how the media made it into something it wasn't.
What needs to be remembered is, the Real reason people want Assisted Suicide and Euthanasia made legal. And it certainly isn't to enable perfectly healthy people to end their life just because they are having a bad day or those suffering from depression or any other such illness. It is intended for those that need it and make that choice if and when a choice needs to be made.
In a perfect world, we wouldn't need such laws but we don't live in a perfect world. But I would hope that we still live in a world with compassion and I hope that when it is time, I am extended that compassion.
Another question that comes to mind and I can see it going either way. I don't really have a point or any motive for asking this question, other than I notice different ideology:
When a pet gets seriously ill and can't live a life without suffering and pain, it is considered okay to euthanaze the pet. It’s praised by pet owners to be morally right.
If it's a human doing the suffering then it's a bit different.
As far was where my opinion on this whole thing. I don’t know... I still believe life is something to be valued as much as possible. My religion and culture put emphasis on how valuable life is, but on the same token I haven’t suffered the extreme pain and suffering someone terminally ill has. Given the choice to die would likely be a far easier decision if I was put in that circumstance. But still if it were made legal and acceptable, imagine what government could do to corrupt it....
When a pet gets seriously ill and can't live a life without suffering and pain, it is considered okay to euthanaze the pet. It’s praised by pet owners to be morally right.
If it's a human doing the suffering then it's a bit different.
As far was where my opinion on this whole thing. I don’t know... I still believe life is something to be valued as much as possible. My religion and culture put emphasis on how valuable life is, but on the same token I haven’t suffered the extreme pain and suffering someone terminally ill has. Given the choice to die would likely be a far easier decision if I was put in that circumstance. But still if it were made legal and acceptable, imagine what government could do to corrupt it....
Recently, I saw a documentary about a woman with ALS. She made the decision to "self euthanize". Sorry but I don't consider a person choosing to end their life as necessarily being suicide. This woman went through all the suffering a person with ALS goes through - her mind was aware that her body was no longer working. When she reached a point at which death was imminent she had a dr "euthanize" her by injection.
Was she a coward or a brave woman - I don't know. What the documentary portrayed was a woman who made her own decision to end her own life. Was the documentary slanted in a particular way? Probably. Would I do what this woman did. I don't know. It is frightening to think that someone could have the control to end our lives when we became "inconvenient" but it is also in a perverse way good to know that if we can't deal with horrific diseases like ALS that we have a choice. I doubt we could make it alone and would need to justify it in some way. This doesn't even begin to address the moral aspect that different cultural and religious groups would have.
This isn't the governmental context that MJ is addressing; it's the individual one. There was a movie which I can't remember the name of in which a tidal wave was going to hit the USA and wipe out almost everybody. Who did the government decide to sacrifice? Everyone over the age of 50 with certain exceptions. Now THAT is frightening. But I digress.
Was she a coward or a brave woman - I don't know. What the documentary portrayed was a woman who made her own decision to end her own life. Was the documentary slanted in a particular way? Probably. Would I do what this woman did. I don't know. It is frightening to think that someone could have the control to end our lives when we became "inconvenient" but it is also in a perverse way good to know that if we can't deal with horrific diseases like ALS that we have a choice. I doubt we could make it alone and would need to justify it in some way. This doesn't even begin to address the moral aspect that different cultural and religious groups would have.
This isn't the governmental context that MJ is addressing; it's the individual one. There was a movie which I can't remember the name of in which a tidal wave was going to hit the USA and wipe out almost everybody. Who did the government decide to sacrifice? Everyone over the age of 50 with certain exceptions. Now THAT is frightening. But I digress.
Sure is scary... Makes me wonder what ever happened to the true concept of democracy. Nor do I think it should be up to one person to decide what wars we fight with countries that weren't really our enemies...
That book shows government/society at its worst. They have one person who is trusted with all the memories of the past to keep people from having to remember history. People feel no pain, and there is no suffering, but there is also no joy, no true feelings, and no true life as we know it. A bit of fantasy maybe, but certainly not a good way that things are heading.
That book shows government/society at its worst. They have one person who is trusted with all the memories of the past to keep people from having to remember history. People feel no pain, and there is no suffering, but there is also no joy, no true feelings, and no true life as we know it. A bit of fantasy maybe, but certainly not a good way that things are heading.
I agree burpatch
You got it dude!!!!
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