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611067 tn?1458591483

Cap & Trade . . .

Well, I probably shoudn't start his thread - but here goes!

What do you think of Cap & Trade - it passed the house today!  I COMPLETELY DISAGREE!  It will cost all of us a lot of money and it will send big corporations to other countries and that is NOT going to fix the economy!  We've already become a consumer nation rather than an industrial nation and that's one reason we've lost so many jobs - they've all gone to other countries.  Man, I hope it does not pass the Senate!

I'm writing my Senators like I did my Congressmen.  
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765070 tn?1384869794
Hey Brian, WElcome Back, we missed you very much.

I heard today that our electric bills will go up to about $3000 more a year.
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518031 tn?1295575374
this has the LARGEST TAX INCREASE ever in this bill, plus like someone wrote earlier our electric bills will double
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765070 tn?1384869794
I totally understand what you are saying but people are not the only reason that this planet is going through these changes.  We have always gone throught climate change and we actually have more people that die from a cold climate than a warm one.   I would love to see alternative resources used to help this earth that God created.  But, unfortunately, our Government feels that raising rates on our electric is going to make people change.  We'll no it will not it will just cause people to go into more debt and try to find other means on their own and then our Government will complain since they are not making money from GE and their lobbyists.  The other thing is that the car companies tend to raise prices on these hybrid cars when actually they are extremely cheap to make.  If the car companies and our government would make them more affordable and safer then we would want to invest in these types of vehicles more.  Have you ever seen some of these hybrid vehicles and how tiny they are.  A family of four would never be able to fit into it and as far as safety is concerned; they are too small to even be safe.  Their are so many larger vehicles on the road that this type of car would be demolished in a crash.  

Do you know that cows produce more gas in the atmosphere than vehicles?  Then maybe we should just get rid of all the cows on this planet.  We'll that would just not be reasonable since we get alot of great foods from these animals.  I do not think that our Government money should be spent on Global warming either.  Did you know that they are spending millions and millions of dollars on finding out how much gas that cows actually produce in the atmosphere?  I am sorry but isn't it just common sense to know that cows produce a lot of gas in the atmosphere.  I mean when you go by a field full of cows doesn't it just stink something awful.  Spending more money to research these silly things is just ridiculous.  

Anyway, we actually do agree on some of the issues and this was a really great topic to discuss.  I thought that you would find this interesting but my parents home has always used solar panels for energy and to this day are still being used.  As well as, they use coal to heat their home.  These are great resources but unfortunately when they bought these items they were very inexpensive since it was back in the 70's.  Nowadays, it is just so unreasonably priced to put some of these alternative energies in that people just stick to what they have.  To switch from electric to another source costs so much more money that just paying extra on electric every month.  It is the upfront cost that most families and people cannot handle.  
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585414 tn?1288941302
I can agree that computer models are inaccurate but what is that scientist's explanation for the melting of the polar ice caps? Regardless of cause I have seen many harmful climatic changes including where I live. I think that spending government money to research global warming is a waste of taxpayer's dollars to begin with. It could be used to prevent provable sources of pollution. The borough of N.Y.C. that I live has one of the highest rates of known pollutants (this is excluding anything that contribute to global warming such as CO2) statistically and the air quality is quite terrible (this leads to a high rate of asthma and other proven negative health results of pollution) and this is because of the large number of power plants. Obviously power has to come from somewhere but I'd be for people willingly investing in renewable energy sources and an affordable hybrid car. Let's all remember that if our dependence on foreign sources of oil were ended (and its not contested that our supply of oil is not renewable even if we tap more sources, within our lifetimes it will run out) then our economic dependence on some countries in the middle east we should not have to deal with in any manner would come to a halt and so would OPEC as well as their power and ability to manipulate us.
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765070 tn?1384869794
For those of you that love to watch ABC since they are a very liberal based station here is what they have to say about Global Warming according to an article which HelpinUtah just posted for all to go check out:

Scientists tell reporters that computer models should "be viewed with great skepticism." Well, why aren't they?

The fundamentalist doom mongers also ignore scientists who say the effects of global warming may be benign. Harvard astrophysicist Sallie Baliunas said added CO2 in the atmosphere may actually benefit the world because more CO2 helps plants grow. Warmer winters would give farmers a longer harvest season, and might end the droughts in the Sahara Desert.

Why don't we hear about this part of the global warming argument? "It's the money!" said Dr. Baliunas. "Twenty-five billion dollars in government funding has been spent since 1990 to research global warming. If scientists and researchers were coming out releasing reports that global warming has little to do with man, and most to do with just how the planet works, there wouldn't be as much money to study it."

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611067 tn?1458591483
This is an interesting article:

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=3061015&page=1
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