The Federal Government has established a "no buy" list called the NICS list. Whenever you attempt to purchase a firearm the dealer is supposed to call a number and consult this list. Once on the list you can never ever purchase or own a firearm. There was supposedly a procedure to do so, but it was never funded. The penalty for this is seven years in the federal slammer, as one vet found when he had a single shot shotgun in his possession after being on the list. The public thinks that this list is helpful in preventing "mentally ill" people from getting guns. Guess what. Ninety nine point three percent of the names on the list were supplied by the Veteran's Administration! Amazing! Thusly, if you call the VA "helpline": and say you might hurt yourself, you get on the list! If you apply for a PTSD evaluation, you get on the list! If you do a google search you will find there is federal legislation being proposed to at the very minimum mandate a hearing before a veteran has his right to own a firearm removed. Recently I assisted a veteran and asked the head of psychiatry if he would be on the list if he complained he had ever thought of suicide, and the VA psychiatrist lied through his teeth. Most people who apply for a PTSD only end up with a "zero percent" disability. They might ask themselves whether this was worth forfeiture of their second amendment rights forever.