Vitamin Supplements for Improved CM

[bam1014]

There a few of us who have been talking about what things you can do to increase quality CM.  I thought I would start a new post here, so all the info is in the same place.  Basically feel free to post about any supplements you are taking, how many, what brand.

I've been taking Evening Primrose Oil (EPO) and will add a more detailed post tonight.  Nunu was talking about Fish Oil and I think Dani mentioned Pre-Seed.  So if you want to post any of your research here, that would be great!!

Sorry Dani, for hijacking your AF post :)

[queenspade]

Thanks Bam!!

[bam1014]

Bumping, because I was asked to.

[ArmyPrincess819]

I posted a few up in the fertility forum and got no response so I figured maybe noone was interested. I'm glad though you looked into her she has some hints I would never have dreamed of. So I hope it has helped you. How is ttc going? I hope the month of love is your lucky one. If you ever need to vent I'm always here. If you have yahoo messenger leave me a message with your screen name and we can chat. I will ttyl..
Hugs,
AP

[EricaB28]

Thanks Bam for posting all this info!! I am so happy to have it! I've got a ton of things that I need to try...:D Thanks again...so helpful!

[bam1014]

Thanks AP.  I actually found her early last month and got all 7 tips.  I'm telling you I don't think I've left any stone unturned :)

That's great that you saved and posted them.  I wish I would have thought of that!

[ArmyPrincess819]

Bam- When I was ttc there was a woman by the name of Beth Riley who had this guide to getting pregnant 7 tips to getting pregnant and for 7 days she would send helpful tips. Things I would never even thought of. After the 7 days like once a month she sends tips. I still get them periodically. If you are interested google her name and have her send the info to you. Here is a few she sent me:
Hi Jenny,

As you probably know, I am always in search
of new information on ways to improve fertility.
Through my reading, I have become more and
more convinced that the tremendous increase
in "unexplained infertility", which is a
global phenomenon, is due in large part to
environmental toxins, poor nutrition and
unhealthy lifestyle practices.

In my ebook, Personal Path To Pregnancy,
I discuss many natural treatments to improve
fertility.  One fertility boosting herb that I
have just recently read about is called MACA.

Maca is a Peruvian tuber that dries into a
butterscotch-tasting powder. Its adaptogenic
actions help normalize hormones.
Maca is used to increase fertility and libido
in both men and women by its effects of decreasing
estrogen, increasing progesterone and unbinding
testosterone, according to the research.

You can read some more about Maca here:

http://natural-fertility-info.com/maca-study-reveals-increase-in-sperm-production-and-libido.html

If you wish to purchase some maca, you can get some here:

http://www.tipsgettingpregnant.com/maca.php

That's it for now. Hope you find that helpful.

Speak soon.

Beth


P.S. Don't forget to check out my review of
FertilAid at http://fertilaid.weebly.com
It is the only doctor-approved, ObGyn-recommended
fertility supplement designed to enhance fertility
and improve reproductive health.

==============================================================
Beth Kiley is a researcher and author of the new book
"Personal Path to Pregnancy," which details amazing strategies
and tips for maximizing your fertility. You can read about it at
http://www.PersonalPathtoPregnancy.com

P.O. Box 557
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2)Hi Jenny,

I wanted to alert you to some information that
I just dug up in my research.

Have you every heard of gossypol?  No?  Well,
I hadn't either.  Turns out it is a  toxic substance
found in the cotton plant, which is mostly removed
through hydrogenation when making cottonseed
oil.  Why should you care?  Well, it turns out that
gossypol is basically like a male birth control
pill.  It greatly reduces male sperm count and
sperm motility, and was actually being considered in
China for use as a male contraceptive.

While most of the gossypol is removed from
the cottonseed oil, some of it is still there.  So,
to be on the safe side, it's probably best for
your partner to avoid products made with
cottonseed oil.  This would typically be some
salad dressings and especially snack foods--
such as potato chips.

Please check out the labels and stay away. As
I discuss in my book, Personal Path To Pregnancy,
there are several ways you can focus on nutrition
to improve your fertility.  This includes eating more
of some things and definitely staying away from others.

If you want to learn more about ways to
increase your chances of getting pregnant, check
out http://www.PersonalPathtoPregnancy.com

Warm regards,

Beth

=============================================================
Beth Kiley is a researcher and author of the new book
"Personal Path to Pregnancy," which details amazing strategies
and tips for maximizing your fertility. You can get access at
http://www.PersonalPathtoPregnancy.com



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3)
Hi Jenny,

As you know, I am always on the lookout for
new information on the topic of getting
pregnant.

Improvements to your mental and physical
health can go a long way to improving your
odds of getting pregnant. Creating an
optimal environment for an embryo to
grow by eating right, taking the right
supplements, avoiding harmful toxins,
are some examples of what you can do
to improve your fertility.

I recently came across an article that discusses
something you may never have thought of which could
be harming your fertility.  It is about the toxic
effects of mercury.  I've already written about
the harmful effects of mercury, and the need
to avoid fish with high levels.  But this is
not about fish.  It's about the mercury in
your teeth.

Click the link and read more...

http://www.wholebodymed.com/library_education_details.php?pid=31

In my book, Personal Path To Pregnancy,
there are many strategies offered to
make the necessary changes that will
increase your chances of getting pregnant.

Check it out here:
http://www.PersonalPathtoPregnancy.com

Speak soon,

Beth

=============================================================
Beth Kiley is a researcher and author of the new book
"Personal Path to Pregnancy," which details amazing strategies
and tips for maximizing your fertility. You can get access at
http://www.PersonalPathtoPregnancy.com



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4)
Hi Jenny,

I wanted to send you a quick note because over
the last few days, I've gotten a lot of emails
asking for my recommendation for a good
supplement to improve the odds of getting pregnant.

The truth is, I did do some research on this subject,
and at the bottom of most of my emails I put a
link to a site where you can read all about it.
Maybe you never noticed it before:

===============================
http://Fertilaid.weebly.com
===============================

So I thought I would send out this note to let
you know that I do have a recommendation on
a fertility supplement that seems to help a lot
of women to get pregnant.  FertilAid.

Remember though, these supplements are NOT
magic.  You still need to be doing things right
as far as diet and lifestyle to make sure you
are maximizing your odds to conceive.  You can
read more about that in my e-book, Personal
Path to Pregnancy, which you can get here if
you don't already have it:

======================================

http://www.PersonalPathtoPregnancy.com
======================================

OK, back to the supplements...

Read my review here about FertilAid:

===============================
http://Fertilaid.weebly.com
===============================

So that's all for today,

Speak soon,

Beth

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Okay so here are just a few. What are you thoughts? Let me know.
AP

[bam1014]

bumping again . . .

[bam1014]

bumping for the newbies :)

[bam1014]

Bumping for Leah

[bam1014]

Yes, please, I'm interested too. :)  Although, I swear I've read that green tea isn't good for women TTC.

[nunu1977]

are you able to give more info on your suggestions? I am curious about what you said about multiples. i M/C twins and would love to get pregnant with twins again!

[Mommynurse151]

I have Pre-Conception Plus lube. Sperm friendly moisterizer. Dont forget green tea with ginseng and honey for men, ginseng helps the men. :) also raspberry leaf w/ red clover and vitex are good for TTC but has the possiblilty for multiples, along with Yucca root.

[nunu1977]

Any expectorant that contains guaifenesin as the only active ingredient is fine to use. One should buy the plain kind with no letters after it. The only active ingredient is guaifenesin, and it contains 100 mg per teaspoon. It is very important to avoid the versions that contain decongestants as those may dry up cervical mucus. Also, there is some conflicting information about whether dextromethorphan, the DM in some cough medicine names, may be linked to birth defects such as neural tube defects and cleft palate.
The recommended dose for improving cervical mucus, based on a 1982 article in Fertility and Sterility, is two teaspoons (200 mg) taken orally three times per day. If mucus still appears thick and doesn't have good spinnbarkeit (ability to stretch), one can take as much as four teaspoons (400 mg) four times per day (the maximum dose on this over the counter medication). Each dose should be taken with a full glass of water, and attention should be given to drinking plenty of fluids throughout the day -- one needs water to produce mucus.
starting guaifenesin about five days before expected ovulation and continuing through ovulation day (six days total, for those with regular cycles). For those with irregular cycles, one should start taking guaifenesin about five days before the earliest day ovulation might be expected. For those taking Clomid (clomiphene citrate, Serophene) in a 5-day protocol, one can probably wait until the day after the last Clomid pill before starting the expectorant.
just like the EPO I would stop taking this as soon as "O" takes place

[nunu1977]

I think that article you just found is one that i found before.
what about all this ladies that don't even think that about what supplements they take.
I know that Drs ask what tablets you take when you visit them but maybe  a list of things could be more readily available about whats good and what not rather than us that have to search though the internet only to find conflicting info.
I thought it was bad enough that the nurse didnt make sure I was taking pre-natals when i phoned for my first appointment when i was first pregnant, but there is so much more than just pre-natals to talk about. one could go overboard with what they take like i was with my folic acid.  

[nunu1977]

yea from what i got from the article its just the oil not the flaxseed itself that they shouldn't take. in fact they say that the actual flaxseed is good for a guy.

[bam1014]

Flaxseed Oil

"Canadian scientists are warning that pregnant women who consume flaxseed oil put themselves at risk of a premature delivery.
The scientists from Montreal University have found that the risks of a premature birth quadruple if flaxseed oil is consumed in the last two trimesters of pregnancy."

I'm going to check the bottle tonight about the Lingnans, but in all likelihood, will have DH stop taking it.

[bam1014]

You are right about the EPO, it should never be taken after O (in case conception occurs).  Just the first half of your cycle.

[bam1014]

That is weird about the EPO.  I haven't seen anything like that online.  Like I said, when I see the RE in December I'm going to have a list of everything I and DH are taking and see what she says.

Now I'm concerned about giving DH the flaxseed.  Why, oh why must everything be SO complicated??

[nunu1977]

your right. ill take out the extra 400mcg and keep it for after i have had a baby and use it when im not needing pre-natal anymore... yah for when they days happens!!!!!

[nunu1977]

fish oil-  I take two lemon flavored softgel 600mg a day to make a  total of 1200

as for flaxseed oil for men. i found this article about how flex seed seems to be good but the oil is not so good unless the lignans are put back in. are you able to find out if yours has this lignan? I didnt find anything about helping his little swimmers... sorry! ill try and read up more about it but part of the article is as follows...

      Although flaxseed oil seems to be safe for women, I still haven't seen any data showing that it is safe for men. In October 2004, Nutrition Journal published an analysis of nutrition and cancer. One meta-analysis included in that publication reviewed nine studies that revealed an association between flaxseed oil intake or high blood levels of alpha-linolenic acid and increased risk of prostate cancer. The author speculated that the lignans in flaxseed are a major component of its anti-cancer effects and that the lack of lignans in most brands of flaxseed oil may explain why flaxseed oil is not beneficial. Until we know more about the risk flaxseed oil appears to present, I recommend that men avoid it, or at least stick to brands that put the lignans back in. Flaxseeds, however, present no danger to men.



the crazy thing is that there are so many things that benifit us in some way and then be bad for something else.
like evening primrose oil. I know a girl that took it to try and clear up her skin before she got married. she got pregnant pretty much on her honeymoon, that pregnancy turned into a vanishing baby, the next pregnancy she had twin to twin transfusion and delivered way too early but her babies survived but are way behind on development, then her third pregnancy ended with a totally healthy baby. could it have been the evening primrose that she was taking when she conceived the first baby!!!! goodness know!!!!

[bam1014]

JMO, but I don't think you need the extra 400, with a prenatal that has 1000.

[nunu1977]

sometimes there is conflicting info on the net about ... well, just about everything!!!! Grrrr...

ok so I read up about Folic acid. this is what i found

wikipedia-   A 10000-patient study at Tufts University in 2007 concluded that excess folic acid worsens the effects of B12 deficiency and in fact may affect the absorption of B12.

webMD-  Government guidelines recommend that all women who are of childbearing age get at least 400 micrograms (mcg) of folic acid each day. You'll also need to take this amount every day when you are trying to get pregnant and for the first three months of your pregnancy.

If you are already pregnant, you'll need to increase the amount of folic acid to 600 mcg. And while you are breastfeeding, you should get at least 500 mcg of folic acid daily.

If you have already had a child with spina bifida or anencephaly and are trying to get pregnant again, you will need much more folic acid -- 4,000 mcg beginning at least one to three months before conceiving and during the first three months of pregnancy


and this from ahealthyme- How much folic acid do I need?

The U.S. Public Health Service recommends that all women of childbearing age take at least 400 micrograms of folic acid a day, the amount contained in many multivitamins. However, most prenatal vitamins contain 800 micrograms, which is the amount recommended for pregnant women by the FDA. If you're pregnant or even hoping to conceive, your health-care provider will probably suggest that you take the higher amount. You don't need to be concerned about getting too much because folic acid is water-soluble, meaning your body will flush out any excess.

fromma government website for woman- Most women need 400 micrograms (mcg) of folate each day, even if they are not planning to get pregnant. Folate is needed before and during the first weeks of pregnancy to help prevent birth defects. Because half of all pregnancies in the U.S. are not planned, women who can become pregnant should aim to get 400 mcg folate each day. That way, if they do become pregnant their babies will be less likely to have birth defects.

Some women need more folate each day:

    * If you are pregnant, you need 600 mcg.
    * If you are breastfeeding, you need 500 mcg.

Talk with your doctor about how much folic acid to take if:

    * You had a baby with spina bifida or anencephaly and want to get pregnant again. Your doctor may give you a prescription for 4,000 mcg folic acid. That is 10 times the normal dose. Taking this high dose of folic acid can reduce your chances of having another baby with these birth defects.
    * You have a family member with spina bifida. Your doctor may give you a prescription for 4,000 mcg folic acid.
    * You have spina bifida and want to get pregnant.
    * You are taking medicines that affect how your body uses folate. These include some of the medicines for:
          o Epilepsy
          o Type 2 diabetes
          o Rheumatoid arthritis
          o Psoriasis
          o Inflammatory bowel disease
    * You have kidney disease and are on dialysis.
    * You have liver disease.
    * You have celiac disease.
    * You abuse alcohol.

So I have read to take 400mcg for any one that is of childbearing age, then go to 600mcg once pregnant than down to 500mcg once breastfeeding.
and if you have a  history of spina bifida in your family then the dr may tell you to take 4000mcg
I t is water soluble but i have also found that too much is not good but havent found how much is too much.
my last pre-natal was 800mcg and the one i just started to take from GNC is 1000mcg,
maybe I don't need the extra 400mcg?

[vibrio81]

okay i have just a few little bits to add:

Fish oil   i was taking a prenatal with fish oil so im not sold on preventing m/c but i take it as just fish oil now. if you read the bottle make sure it says the oil has been purified to remove mercury, PCBs and Dioxins. mercury toxicity will make you crazy (mad hatters disease) i got the grocery store brand and it is fine.

Prim rose you may want to stop after conception because you need extra cholesterol to make hormones for you and your baby but if your chol is high in the first place it may not hurt just ask the dr mine told me no.

Folic acid   dont take too much it can cause problems. it is water soluble but  too much of anything can be dangerous. According to the National Academy of Sciences, the daily intake of folic acid in adults should not exceed 1,000 mcg (that is 0.1MG). Very high doses of this vitamin offer no additional therapeutic value. Very high doses (above 15,000 mcg or 15MG) can cause stomach problems, sleep problems, skin reactions, and seizures. Zinc, estrogen, anticonvulsant drugs, barbiturates, and sulfasalazine may not be absorbed as effectively when combined with folic acid.

just a heads up on some things. sorry im a little neg. it all sounds good but moderation is the key

[bam1014]

More . . . Pre Seed

Sited from:  http://www.ovulation-calculator.com/pre-seed.htm

So what's the Pre-Seed difference? What makes Pre-Seed unique is that other lubricants like KY or Replens act as a barrier to conception. See the diagram below. Pre-Seed lubricates and moisturizes - and at the same time provides a healthy environment for sperm to move, survive, and make their way to the ovum. Traditional lubricants may lubricate, but in doing so they set up an obstacle course to bog down sperm and hinder (or at least decrease the chance of) conception.

The Problem of Dryness

If you are TTC, then you know that trying to conceive is a big issue. At least 90 million couples worldwide, 11 million in the US alone, are trying to become pregnant. With only a 20% average chance of becoming pregnant each cycle, it’s no surprise that couples can become stressed. And stress leads to dryness!

Yes, "intercourse on demand" prior to ovulation can lead to anxiety, frustration, and increased vaginal dryness. In fact, 75% of ttc couples report an increased frequency of vaginal dryness.
  

In relieving this common problem, couples do not want to create another problem: the "sperm blockade" caused by other lubricants. Indeed, personal lubricants and even saliva can harm sperm. Research conducted on personal lubricants over the past three decades has clearly demonstrated their detrimental effects on sperm.

The Pre-Seed Solution
Pre-Seed lubricant is the first "sperm-friendly" intimate moisturizer that mimics natural body secretions for an optimal sperm environment. Safe, effective, and designed to support both conception and trying-to-conceive pleasure!

Pre~Seed Fun Facts
- Designed by women reproductive physiologists!
- pH balanced to semen (imitates natural body secretions)!
- Manufactured in a FDA registered facility!
- Available as single use applicators to be applied before making love for enhanced spontaneity!

Technical Notes On Pre-Seed

Pre~Seed is the first “sperm-friendly" Intimate Moisturizer that mimics natural body secretions to relieve vaginal dryness while providing an optimal sperm environment. Pre~Seed’s moisture is delivered in a fluid with the same pH and osmolarity as semen, so as not to harm sperm.

Additionally, Pre~Seed contains a naturally occurring plant sugar (arabinogalactan) which protects cell function, including having antioxidant-like activity. Antioxidant levels can be severely decreased in semen from men with fertility problems (see Reference Library)

Available as single use applicators which can be applied before making love for enhanced spontaneity. Pre~Seed comes in convenient single use vaginal applicators to coat the vagina and external cervix to replenish nature's moisture without harming sperm even while trying to conceive – a time of increased vaginal dryness when other personal lubricants should be avoided.

Pre-Seed Testing Specifications:

pH between 7.2 and 7.5
Osmolarity between 300 and 380 mOsmo/kg
No harm to Mouse Embryos: assures that greater than 85% of one cell mouse embryos develop to the blastocyst stage when cultured with Pre~Seed. This analysis is the FDA test for all media solutions used in assisted reproduction such IUI or IVF. Sperm-friendliness: freshly ejaculated human sperm are cultured with Pre~Seed in media, and the percentage of sperm that swim must be equal to 85% or greater of sperm in IVF media alone (which is less thick).

How Do Other Lubricants Damage Sperm?

The optimum pH value for sperm migration and survival in the cervical mucus is between 7.0 and 8.5 (World Health Organization guidelines). Sperm are very sensitive to low (acidic) pH and, to a lesser extent, elevated (alkaline) pH. Below pH levels of 6.9, sperm die at a rate that increases with lowering pH. Sperm are also sensitive to both high and low osmolarities (ion concentration in solution) because these can cause them to either shrink or swell beyond their "critical volume limits". A physiologic osmolarity* around 360 mOsm/kg (that of semen) is best for sperm function.