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Scientist gets fired for telling the truth


Government Scientist Gets Fired for Telling the Truth

    David Spady

    

Jan 18, 2013

Government Scientist Gets Fired for Telling the Truth

Something’s amiss at the Department of Interior. Eight government scientists were recently fired or reassigned after voicing concerns to their superiors about faulty environmental science used for policy decisions. Which begs the question, “Are some government agencies manipulating science to advance political agendas?”

Fictional book authors operate in a convenient world, unconstrained by facts and experiences of the real world. The antithesis of works of fiction are scientific findings solely based on provable facts and experience. For agenda-driven environmental science, facts can sometime prove inconvenient. It’s far easier to advance an agenda with agreeable science, even if that means creating science fiction or fictional science. Fictional science thus becomes the pseudo-reality of environmentalist’s absolutism and any science that disagrees with their predetermined conclusions of man-made harm to the environment is ignored or distorted. Now we learn that in some government agencies, scientists who question the veracity and validity of scientific evidence used to formulate environmental regulations and policies are shunned, kept quiet, and purged.

The purpose of fictional environmental science is to sway public opinion through what amounts to propaganda. Intransigent purveyors of “green” propaganda know their greatest enemy is truth. One of the most famous propaganda experts was Germany’s Joseph Goebbels, who taught that if a lie is repeated often enough it will eventually be accepted as truth. Goebbels also knew that truth has to be suppressed if it contradicts the objectives of the propaganda. Goebbels wrote, “It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

Over the past three decades, government has unleashed an unprecedented wave of environmental rules and regulations that affect nearly every aspect of American life, and for the most part the public has tolerated it. Public embrace of environmental propaganda and fear mongering about the apocalyptic consequences of mankind’s abuse of the planet have elevated environmentalism to a status above national security. The public is now more likely to give up rights and freedoms for the cause of saving the planet than for security reasons.
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Completely different but directly in line as to how "scientists" can tell the truth and get fired....  

The controversial wolf introduction in the west.  The pro wolf agenda hired numerous scientists.  A few of them, and their sound science, came out to tell the truth about the introduction and the species that was introduced and the pro wolf agenda dropped them like a hot rock.

All the prowolf agenda wanted to hear from them was, "will THIS
wolf survive in this eco system" and "are wolves beneficial to THEIR regular eco systems?"  

The answers given were, "yes they will survive and even thrive in this new eco system, and yes they are beneficial to THIER eco system" but as soon as these scientists said that "This wolf doesn't belong in this eco system", they got fired and were deemed as quacks.
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148588 tn?1465778809
"My question is, how on earth did we move from that to "killing babies and seniors?" "

It's brought to you by the same people who pump out the anti-climate change propaganda. Basically, those who look at humans as 'consumption units' and don't care what type of world our grandchldren inherit as long as they can make a buck today. The current economic model doesn't work unless you have a growing consumer base.
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377493 tn?1356502149
I can tell you this.  My great aunt was a Roman Catholic Nun.  Beyond a doubt as conservative as a human being can get.  She isn't with us any longer, but she used to tell me so many stories. She traveled extensively, on missionary type work, throughout so many parts of the world.  And do you know what she taught so many women?  How to time their cycles, and how to use birth control.  I remember talking to her about it not long after my own confirmation ceramony.  It was confusing for me as the Church is against birth control and population control in general.  She told me that seeing little babies starve to death because there was not enough food taught her that sometimes you have to make choices. She felt that God would prefer her preventing that then be a party to allowing that.

I too have traveled extensively and seen poverty and famine beyond anything you can possibly imagine.  It rankles me when anyone talks about this as a US issue.  It isn't.  It's a much much bigger picture then that.  Obama and his health care plan have nothing to do with this issue.

And on that note, you have folks in the US starving to death and dying from treatable and preventable disease.  However, I suppose for some that is better as long as it doesn't become real to them, and is simply a political talking point.  That is a shame.
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163305 tn?1333668571
Oops, that should have read 'so' not 'do'.
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163305 tn?1333668571
Why do negative ?

I am in favor of education and birth control which is easily accessible for all, everywhere.
That is the first step towards controlling the ever expanding population.

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377493 tn?1356502149
Well, there is really no question that overpopulation is an issue on our planet.  I mean, it doesn't take a brain surgeon to recognize that. Many countries can not produce enough food and certainly clean water is a huge huge issue.  Many countries have way larger populations then they can ever possibly come close to taking care of (and I don't mean gov't care, so don't get excited).

My question is, how on earth did we move from that to "killing babies and seniors?"  And please keep in mind, this is not an Obama issue nor is it an American issue. This is a worldwide issue and last time I checked, there were a whole lot of other countries out there extending far beyond the US borders.  

No one is talking about "killing" anyone.  But as SM said, education is the key here.  Access to birth control is critical.  Of course, we can just say forget it all and let the children just starve to death.  Cause without education and birth control, that is where we are moving to. (and it already happens in many parts of the world).
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973741 tn?1342342773
Some of these countries need to have education presented to them and yes, birth control available.  It's sad what happens to a lot of these children in these parts of the world.  
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OH I am not saying that overpopulation is not happening but what can you do about it...nothing. Unless you want to limit how many children someone has. Are you infavor of that?
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973741 tn?1342342773
There are definately countries in the world where overpopulation is a real problem and I'm sure everyone agrees to that.  
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163305 tn?1333668571
The problem with there not being enough clean water for people to drink is cause by both pollution and over population.
This isn't about killing babies, it's about common sense.
Too many people fighting over resources.
Believe what you like, my experience both with traveling and living life show me the vast increased population of the globe.

However, just like religion, people believe what they want to believe.
Enough said.
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535822 tn?1443976780
Yup that's what they want ..American babies are not being born, its the lowest birth rate ..and Obamacare will be finishing seniors off early like the UK does..so I guess those who want it will have depopulation  
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Yeah over population, lets kill more babies, lets institute one child policy, lets just kill everyone.
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535822 tn?1443976780
I dont believe we are over populated and that the msm is responsible for us assuming we are
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163305 tn?1333668571
Lets see, no environment= no people.
Sounds like our priories need to be about not just saving the planet we live on but finding a way to share it peacefully.

Personally, we could benefit from truly focus on what I consider the one biggest problem facing us all~ overpopulation.
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148588 tn?1465778809
....or maybe Rush Limbaugh look like Mother Jones :-) You get what I'm saying.
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148588 tn?1465778809
I googled it and read it. Just my opinion that Spady makes Mother Jones look like Rush Limbaugh.
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535822 tn?1443976780
It was such a long article to put it all up...it was from TownHall.com
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148588 tn?1465778809
By the way Salazar is on his way out -- case not under review. Also, drilling on public lands is at a record high, so Spady's assertion that he was a 'green' Secretary of Interior is more "science fiction".
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148588 tn?1465778809
Speaking of "a convenient world, unconstrained by facts" Spady done Goebbels proud.
I know there are no links required on this forum, but for anyone interested in 'the rest of the story'

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/08/interior-department-whistleblower-science

"...Dr. Paul Houser, a hydrologist, has accused the DOI of "scientific and scholarly misconduct and reprisal," a complaint currently under investigation within the agency.

The Bureau of Reclamation, a division of DOI, hired Houser in April 2011 to serve as a scientific integrity officer and science advisor. This position is a relatively new one at DOI, put in place in February 2011 in response to President Obama's 2009 executive order requiring an administration-wide policy that would guarantee that all agency decisions are based on "the soundest science."

Nice to see you siding with the President on this one.

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