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99.9% CURE

No doubt, i still think this is a dream come true, that I have found the FINAL and the only no cost effective CURE TO PUT PATM TO ITS FINAL DEFEAT and that was from sweat, determination and hard work! !

BELOW IS HOW I COPED WITH PATM

My first patm started on 31-10-16. On the first day, I felt confused, caught the wrong bus for the first time and even lost my bus card. I didn’t believe it was me causing everyone to do dry coughs. Second day of class it hit me again. I honestly thought I was releasing a type of gas (LIKE WHAT MOST OF YOU GUYS HYPOTHESIZE). Few weeks later, I thought it was just a delusion. Throughout that month, I tried most of the remedies that people post on here, from chlorophyll detox (DIDN’T WORK) > magnesium spay (DIDN’T WORK) > apple cider vinegar ‘organic’ (DIDN’T WORK) > Co-enzyme Q10 (DIDN’T WORK) > bone broth (WHICH SOMEONE ALLEGEDLY POSTED THAT IT WAS A 100% CURE WHICH I TRIED AND MOST SAID IT DIDN’T WORK, WHOEVER IT WAS THAT POSTED BONE BROTH ALSO DELETED THEIR POST CAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT WAS A FALSE REMEDY)

Considering, that none of these worked, I went to see doctors and did tests. (I SAW AS MANY DOCTORS AS I WANT BECAUSE GOVERNMENTS IN MY COUNTRY PAID FOR IT) and so 1st doctor said it was a delusion (YEAH WHATEVA IT WAS REAL TO ME-from the bottom of my heart), 2nd doctor made me do an allergy blood test (CAME OUT NEGATIVE), 3rd doctor said it was people getting hayfevers, 4th doctor made me take a stool sample (FOUND NOTHING), from then I gave up on seeing doctors and decided to visit a phychiatrist just to see if it’s a psychological disorder (HE TOLD ME I HAD HIGH ANXIETY, AND NO SH1T THE REASON WHY I DEVELOPED THIS HIGH ANXIETY WAS BECAUSE OF PATM)

HONESTLY, I BET WHOEVER HAD THIS PATM WOULD DO ANYTHING THEY COULD TO DEFEAT THIS STUPID THING. NOW LISTEN TO ME, DON’T SPEND ANYMORE MONEY. FOR THOSE THAT THINK ITS CANDIDA YOUR WRONG (BECAUSE YOU COULD’VE DONE A STOOL/BREATH TEST) AND pathologists would have found bacteria/virus in your stool) AND IF YOU THINK YOU RELEASE SOME SORT OF GAS THEN HOW DOES GAS INSTANTANEOUSLY TRAVEL AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT THROUGH BUS WINDOWS, WALLS, AND TELEPHONES.

NOW YOU GUYS TELL ME IS PATM A GOOD ENERGY OR BAD ENERGY THAT CAUSE THESE REACTIONS, IT IS OBVIOUSLY BAD. AND I WILL RIGHT ON THIS POST TELL YOU HOW TO DEFEAT IT UNLIKE SOME PEOPLE ON THESE FORUM THAT POST VAGUE AND AMBIGUOUS MEDICATIONS (BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU DON’T NEED MEDICATIONS TO CURE THIS)

HOW DOES PEOPLE REACT TO ME? THEY WOULD DO DRY COUGHS, ITCH THEIR FOREHEAD, SNEEZE, GIVE ME NASTY LOOKS. ONE DAY I WAS FEELING SO ESTATIC THAT I DIDN’T EVEN CARE THAT I HAD PATM WHILE PASSING THROUGH 50+ PEOPLE IN THAT TRAIN STATION..GUESS WHAT I FELT STRANGE BECAUSE I WASN’T USE TO “”””NO REACTIONS”””” HONESTLY WERE NOT BORN WITH THIS AND TRUST ME IF IT WAS A DISEASE WHY DOES ONLY A SMALL PORTION OF PEOPLE IN THE WORLD HAVE IT. THE FINAL ANSWER I HAVE FOR YOU ARE NEGATIVE THOUGHTS BECAUSE YOU AND I HAVE MANIFESTATED IT INTO REALITY OVERTIME. FOR YOU ALL NOW IS TO THINK POSITIVE THOUGHTS EVERYDAY, LIFE’S TOO SHORT TO BE WORRYING THINGS. NEVERTHELESS WHETHER YOU BELIEVE ME OR NOT IT IS UP TO YOU.

TAKE CARE GUYS! AND REMEMBER NEVER GIVE UP + KNOW IT TAKES TIME. IM DONE RESEARCHING FALSE REMEDIES AND WASTING MONEY BECAUSE PATM IS FINALLY DEFEATED FOR ME! !
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I am Japanese ,so please forgive me for my poor English. I think not caring about PATM is effective, but were you able to cure PATM completely by it? And  do you think PATM is caused by spiritual force? Please tell me your opinion.
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They are wrong. MeBO scientists prove that PATM and TMAU2 are real biological problems. If someone could heal PATM with his mind then it would mean anyone with AIDS, malaria, typhoid or TB can heal themselves too. That’s crazy talk. It cannot happen.

It’s known scientifically that TMAU1 comes at different levels. Those with the heterozygosity gene usually don’t show any signs to very mild level. I believe they can live in society without worrying too much. They can easily brainwash or force themselves psychological like these mild PATMers to believe it’s not happening. Perhaps it can help them with life but evidently it won’t happen to any of us whom are at its worse. A person with a very extreme form of PATM cannot think the away people around him coughing or sneezing themselves out. They will leave as they start to get sick and there’s no amount of brain motivation that can make them stay as your thinking cannot influence others. It’s not like in the movies. I think every PATM have had the experience where after 15 mins in the theater there’s a 10-20 meter empty seat surrounding you. You cannot think those people not to leave. The longer the movie the more people that would leave.

I’m not sure if @r3isha has had that experience or not. She seems to have a mild form of PATM or something completely different.
I'm sorry but negative energy in our bodies plays a part. My anger ALWAYS increased patm. no question about it. Abstaining from sex may not 100 cure it but i'll take 99.9 percent. No diet change, no supplements worked for me. Calming my body and sex no more than once a month did it for me. Explain that.
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But what came first? PATM or High anxiety.

I thought having PATM made you highly anxious.
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Candida will test negative on stool sample if it is a fungus---from fungal spores---- origination--ONLY a PCR test for fungus folks will test positive on u guys
and hence this is why a candida diet works for fungus----also STRESS feeds candida and fungus
so YES avoid stress will reduce but stick to diet and it will take you 2 years to totally eliminate with no sugar no carbs at all and no caffine--- if you can not commit--u will never rid
Excellent - isuffertoo

God Bless always !

@mola123
Any social problem whether we are talking about a biological disease or anything else such as bad behavior or just social outcast, will ultimately have some psychological effect[stress] on that person when he’s isolated. The stress that comes out of it isn’t the source of the problem rather it’s the product.

This is what I call crazy reasoning. Instead of reasoning a man died because he was shot, these guys reverse it, the shot was done because the man died. That wouldn’t make sense in any planet. PATM is the source of the stress and not the other way round.

I’ve heard some here say that PATM is the result of stress…lol. How do you explain most of us who were having the time of their lives why PATM started? I was enjoying life, drinking, partying and eating all the goodies I could find. That’s the opposite of stress and trauma.

When people say stress, unless they’re studying biology they have no idea what it means. The hypothalamus in the brain determines how much stress there is by the amount of CRH it releases. The more worries you have the more CRH released. If we could artificially pump this into your body, you’d **** & poo and shake like a man about to be hanged despite knowing there’s nothing happening. Btw, the brain doesn’t differentiate between physiological stress and physical stress. A tiger threatening to eat you and your wife finding out you’ve cheated with her younger sister is translated as the same stress to the brain.

In response to the CRH, the adrenal glands produce a proportional amount of stress hormone called Corticol. There’s a chain reaction of hormones being released throughout the body to adapted quickly to the stress by shutting down all long term organ system and direct resources into short term systems. It’s similar to war time when all the schools and manufacturing is shut down and resources directed at military hardware production and aiding facilities. The same thing happens when the body is stressed. The digestive system, growth and repair is shutdown and energy is alternatively redirected at cardiovascular, respiratory, muscular systems for a quick flight. This is the most important bit; the immunity system is always stopped when you are stressed. The body doesn’t need the immunity system if a tiger appears on your doorstep. It needs more of your muscles for flight.

So this is the reason why stress is bad. It affects our immunity, repair and growth. But here’s the Catha, HIV-virus in AIDS patients just eliminates their immunity altogether. AIDS patients should get the worst PATM on earth but they don’t.

Soldiers going to war are stressed beyond anything any human can imagine. They witness horrific events such as women and children getting cut into pieces by shrapnel or mortars in front of them and dogs eating their corpse sometimes. This is why we have psychological disorders named after crazy war victims.

Now If this is a stress related problem shouldn’t we see PATMers among the most stressed occupation or society on earth? PATMers should mostly be of military background or from Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, North Korea and poor countries of south Asia or central Africa. But no that is not the case. Our data shows most PATMers come from the US. and U.K. These two countries are among the most comfortable and stress free country in the world. The data doesn’t support the stress and trauma hypothesis, rather it’s against it.
Even the most successful man can have anxiety, to reach anxiety you have to have gone through stress, then, it will not be correct to say that living in a "prosperous" country does not exist stressed with anxiety. It could become one of the factors for the PATM. I still think that it is a mutation of our interior due to lack of oxygen, by bad breath.
@ocvq
“Even the most successful man can have anxiety..”

If all human beings are sick from anxiety, then what’s the point of bringing it up? From your explanation it would seem it’s a part of the human condition.

“I still think that it is a mutation of our interior due to lack of oxygen, by bad breath.”

What do you mean interior? Is there a mutation of the exterior? Can you explain what do you mean by that and do you have some evidence for your claims? Btw I’ve never heard of a disease like ours caused by the lack of oxygen. Cells can die from the lack of oxygen but that’s about it. If your cells were really starving of oxygen you’d feel tired… probably faint many many times throughout the day. Any area of the body that doesn’t receive oxygen will die.
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Hi,r3isha.How are you?.Do you have any progress?I think you are on the right way with this.
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Yes absolutely progress, i smile everyday now, thinking of positive thoughts, hang out with friends at the beach and people that pass around me hardly reacts to me.

Because im manifesting positive thoughts around people that walk past me at the beach, they all smile and ask how im going and that is 'strangers'. Also yesterday i was buying bread and the lady at the counter smiled at me. This is so rare to me because when i was upset and depressed literally no-one smiled at me, instead they gave me angry nasty looks.

The mind is very powerful. We gotten our mind so negatively deep. Simple yet no cost effective cure is to reverse this crap that's in our head. And this will take time.
You are in the right track!!That is the flip side of PATM,which is very helpful when working with people.In my work line i have to deal with people a lot.Smile make everything easy .if your are happy and smiley it will make other people smily and happy in turn.Thats the FLIP SIDE OF PATM.
Thank you both my friends.Love yourselfs and live your lifes just like everybody else.Happy new year, good luck and never doubt your intuition.
MeBO scientists proved scientifically TMAU2 and PATM is authentic but you people say it’s not. Let’s compare. They are brilliant scientists and professors but none of you have a diploma in science. So my question to you guys is how do you come to the conclusion that we PATMers are crazy? I mean if we are crazy then MeBO scientists are crazy too, but you non-scientists are sane? How is that possible? I’m sorry but I think you guys have some paradox to overcome first.

I think I have some ideas of why you guys believe what you believe now. I know 3 people with mild forms of PATM that it doesn’t show up most of the time. According to one I often talk with, he’s sometimes convinced that he has it and then sometimes he’s not. The most they can get is people occasionally rubbing their noses or clearing their throats. Most of the time they’re not sure if they have the problem or not. According to MeBO the big different between us is the level of permeability. I guess you guys have only a slight leaky gut. If it’s the case, then I agree the best way for you guys are just to ignore it if people aren’t getting sick or avoiding you. My PATM started just like that years ago before it went full blown. I believe my long drinking habits and junk diet at the time, which I didn’t know it was bad, made it worse.
What r3isha has stumbled upon is that the mind IS what we are. It's where the true power IS.  Where the true power can be FOUND.  These bodies we seem to inhabit do not have to control us the way we've taught ourselves and been taught they have to and need to.  If you think that's just "the way things are," then you'll be right.  Give that up if you want to.  I'm not going to worry about my stinky nose anymore. r3isha has reminded me that I don't need to. I'm sure I won't have to.  Nobody should care if they think I'm wrong - I don't care if they do.

I've changed my mind about everything by being willing to reconsider everything I thought I knew about this existence and great change is finally happening for me. I spent my entire life trying to be what I thought other people wanted me to be and I was as unsuccessful at happiness as will be anyone who tries to follow that same path themselves.  A person can NEVER BE what others think they should be.  They can only ever BE their self.  That's who they ARE.

People chalk up "miracles" to something other than the mind of the person experiencing those miracles - and the world will bring to each of those people who question, the evidence needed to support their contentions.  

I would say to those people, as those others on here have pretty much said (to r3isha), "To each his own, I wish you well," but oh, how I wish I wish more people could see what's really going on here on this planet - and that their negativity and fear of others is really the cause of all the world's problems. Positivity can also be called love and love of oneself is the first place to start.  At least r3isha gets that much.  

Negativity will never work and never has.  Show me the proof.  Doctors who pay attention KNOW that patients in a room full of people lively with laughter do well and that those all alone and depressed are the ones susceptible to strange infections.  It's been SHOWN and KNOWN to happen.

When people's reliance on all that exists apart from self - reliance on science and technology and medicine and military might - has been shown to be unfounded, a new source of reliable power can be found and can come into one's life, if only looked for within rather than without.  And as within, so without.  

That's the mechanism where true change can be found.  It's generally not a way of looking at things that anyone is at all interested in if there's nothing they can see in it for them and particularly if 1) it doesn't go along with what they've been indoctrinated into thinking through other schools of thought their entire life and 2) they're not in a position where they're at the absolute end of their rope.

That self is the being that which we all truly ARE, the one that's okay, the one that r3isha has inadvertently accepted herself as being, that spirit that can control the body, if just given the chance, if just accepted as the imperfect perfect being that we all are. We all have differences, but we're all the same.  We're not alone, we're one. So few are even interested...    "Let's just keep doing more of the same.  It's working."

Yes, of course people will make fun of such things and say that this way of looking at things is absolutely ridiculous and I would say to them, "I also wish you well."  

R3sha is living the proof of what I'm saying, and I know she will do well, if she just manages to keep at it and keep it up...  Way to come to positivity in your own way, r3isha.  Congratulations.

In all of my first 59 years, I had no idea of the returns available by just being my self in the PRESENT.  You don't have to wait for future like a carrot hanging at the end of a stick. Don't let others expectations of you or their estimation or judgment of you get you down and you'll go far, r3isha.  I know it's working for me.  

I hesitate to even say these things and hit "Submit", but won't argue with anyone who disagrees.  I won't be back to look and engage.  I just know it's working for me.  And it will for you too, r3isha.  Just give it a chance and it will for you too...
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Unfortunately delusional people @r3isha make it so much more difficult for others who are really experiencing this problem to find a cure.
I wish you well.
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If any of you were right it would mean all the PH.D scientists involved in the MeBO clinically research are delusional. So it’s either you lot or the MeBO scientists are delusional. But we know they can’t be delusional because some of them are world respected scientists and professors. So in your fair and right judgement who do you think is delusional? You or them? There can only be one or the other. I’ll let you and @r3isha think about it.
MeBO scientists proved scientifically TMAU2 and PATM is authentic but you people say it’s not. Let’s compare. They are brilliant scientists and professors but none of you have a diploma in science. So my question to you guys is how do you come to the conclusion that we PATMers are crazy? I mean if we are crazy then MeBO scientists are crazy too, but you non-scientists are sane? How is that possible? I’m sorry but I think you guys have some paradox to overcome first.

I think I have some ideas of why you guys believe what you believe now. I know 3 people with mild forms of PATM that it doesn’t show up most of the time. According to one I often talk with, he’s sometimes convinced that he has it and then sometimes he’s not. The most they can get is people occasionally rubbing their noses or clearing their throats. Most of the time they’re not sure if they have the problem or not. According to MeBO the big different between us is the level of permeability. I guess you guys have only a slight leaky gut. If it’s the case, then I agree the best way for you guys are just to ignore it if people aren’t getting sick or avoiding you. My PATM started just like that years ago before it went full blown. I believe my long drinking habits and junk diet at the time, which I didn’t know it was bad, made it worse.
In what medical journal is this published in? Please let us know if not then all opinions count. I want answers to the big questions. What leaves our bodies and attacks people so viciously? Why so selective (I used to make 2 out 10 people sick in a room, I've also made children and animals sneeze very bad) How can it go through walls? How can it travel so far? Why some days on and some days off? I have my own way of keeping it under control but it sucks. How do you cure a leaky gut? Surgery? (Personally, I'm skeptical on the leaky gut)  So I'm still waiting for answers.
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What do you think causes this negative energy?
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That’s the million dollar question.  When we find out there will be many happy people.   I would like to find out first and share with everyone.  At least before someone else does and hides it for profit
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In my opinion herpes is a part of patm disease
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What makes you think that? I’m
Curious?  
Skin problems are related but not the cause.
I'm positive for herpes type 1. Doctors say I had herpes since a child.  However I made out with a girl 2 years ago.  9times out of 10 I reinfected my body. Probably due to weak immune system. But before I made out with her I wasn't experiencing these symptoms
Keep I'm mind herpes is a trending disease. 8 of 10 people are infected and don't realize it. Ask your primary doctor for a herpes test or Try taking antihistamines until you see a skin allergists,
Understood.  I personally believe that the herpes is a co-infection.  But I don’t really know.  
At least we kno we not crazy so u can rule that option out
I’ve never had herpes. I’ve been tested
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You are not the first person that has come up with this solution on the forum. I personally don't think positive thoughts alone can cure you, but if it's worked for you then congratulations!
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What r3isha has stumbled upon is that the mind IS what we are. It's where the true power IS.  Where the true power can be FOUND.  These bodies we seem to inhabit do not have to control us the way we've taught ourselves and been taught they have to and need to.  If you think that's just "the way things are," then you'll be right.  Give that up if you want to.  I'm not going to worry about my stinky nose anymore. r3isha has reminded me that I don't need to. I'm sure I won't have to.  Nobody should care if they think I'm wrong - I don't care if they do.

I've changed my mind about everything by being willing to reconsider everything I thought I knew about this existence and great change is finally happening for me. I spent my entire life trying to be what I thought other people wanted me to be and I was as unsuccessful at happiness as will be anyone who tries to follow that same path themselves.  A person can NEVER BE what others think they should be.  They can only ever BE their self.  That's who they ARE.

People chalk up "miracles" to something other than the mind of the person experiencing those miracles - and the world will bring to each of those people who question, the evidence needed to support their contentions.  

I would say to those people, as those others on here have pretty much said (to r3isha), "To each his own, I wish you well," but oh, how I wish I wish more people could see what's really going on here on this planet - and that their negativity and fear of others is really the cause of all the world's problems. Positivity can also be called love and love of oneself is the first place to start.  At least r3isha gets that much.  

Negativity will never work and never has.  Show me the proof.  Doctors who pay attention KNOW that patients in a room full of people lively with laughter do well and that those all alone and depressed are the ones susceptible to strange infections.  It's been SHOWN and KNOWN to happen.

When people's reliance on all that exists apart from self - reliance on science and technology and medicine and military might - has been shown to be unfounded, a new source of reliable power can be found and can come into one's life, if only looked for within rather than without.  And as within, so without.  

That's the mechanism where true change can be found.  It's generally not a way of looking at things that anyone is at all interested in if there's nothing they can see in it for them and particularly if 1) it doesn't go along with what they've been indoctrinated into thinking through other schools of thought their entire life and 2) they're not in a position where they're at the absolute end of their rope.

That self is the being that which we all truly ARE, the one that's okay, the one that r3isha has inadvertently accepted herself as being, that spirit that can control the body, if just given the chance, if just accepted as the imperfect perfect being that we all are. We all have differences, but we're all the same.  We're not alone, we're one. So few are even interested...    "Let's just keep doing more of the same.  It's working."

Yes, of course people will make fun of such things and say that this way of looking at things is absolutely ridiculous and I would say to them, "I also wish you well."  

R3sha is living the proof of what I'm saying, and I know she will do well, if she just manages to keep at it and keep it up...  Way to come to positivity in your own way, r3isha.  Congratulations.

In all of my first 59 years, I had no idea of the returns available by just being my self in the PRESENT.  You don't have to wait for future like a carrot hanging at the end of a stick. Don't let others expectations of you or their estimation or judgment of you get you down and you'll go far, r3isha.  I know it's working for me.  

I hesitate to even say these things and hit "Submit", but won't argue with anyone who disagrees.  I won't be back to look and engage.  I just know it's working for me.  And it will for you too, r3isha.  Just give it a chance and it will for you too...
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Can anybody help me please
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I live in virginia and i found out what it is for some people.
Just drink water, eat salad, olive oil coconut oil....avoid palm oil and canola oil.
Be caredful with what you eat   that was how i solved my problem
good to see you doing well.  Jim
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Hello r3isha, Im happy I found your forum about this heart wrenching problem I have been dealing with for the past 3 years.
Background: I’m a 20 year old female in my third year of college. I take very good care of myself; if anything I consider myself to be a slight germophobe if you must. I brush and floss twice a day, I shower sometimes twice a day, and I use perfume and scented lotions. In highschool, there was a particular girl who would always compliment me on my fragrance. Naturally, I felt good about it because I often times feel like my perfume “goes away” after an hour of me using it, however, her compliments assured me that even if I couldn’t smell my perfume others still could. Anyways, fast forward I’m a freshman and college and one day I randomly notice that people would often times rub their noses whenever I was around them (much like how you would if you had an itchy nose). I, personally, have  found that I rub my nose when I smell something unpleasant, such as body odor, bad breath, etc. so when people started rubbing their noses like that around me I immediately begin to panic. Even when I’m home with my family, my parents, especially, would do the same and when I would ask them about it, they assured me I didn’t stink but that their nose was itchy. My dad in particular is a very straightforward person and wouldn’t mind telling me I had bad breath or had body odor, so that was a little assuring when he said I didn’t. Yet, I would still notice this gesture EVRYWHERE I went. I’ve been to doctors, my dentist, etc. I even plan to go to a therapist because it’s literally ruining my social life. I have bad social anxiety because of this so now when I’m talking to people and they begin to rub their nose, it’s like I immediately shut down and the conversation abruptly and awkwardly dies off simply because I’m afraid that idk I stink or my breath stinks? I’ve asked many of my friends who all stated that they just have itchy noses or they have allergies. And believe or not, the thing sounds PATHETIC to me because now I’m thinking, What? So now EVERYBODY has itchy noses or allergies? Pure BS. I used to be afraid to ask people why they do it when I notice it, but now I boldly do and every time the person doesn’t even realize that they even rubbed their nose. I did have a male friend tell me one time that the perfume I wear is kind of strong, but he never rubbed or “scratched” his nose around me so I didn’t take his comment any serious. This issue has made me so depressed and socially awkward. I already am a person with very low self esteem so this issue has literally turned me into a timid Tina :(. I don’t know what else to do. My dad claims that the only time I will feel satisfied is if someone tells me what I think is true. In other words, the day someone tells me that I have bad breath is the day I would stop speculating why people rub their noses and conclude that whenever someone rubs their nose it’s because my breath stinks; however that’s not the case because I don’t have a breath problem. Idk what to do guys. Like I said, my personal hygiene is top priority for me and doctors claim I don’t have any infections or diseases (GERD, tonsil stones, etc) so I’m not sure why I keep noticing this everywhere. I went to my professors office hours today and he too rubbed his nose quite frequently. Saddened by this, after the meeting, I went straight to my car and cried. This thing is ruining my life and idk what to do about it. I didn’t intend to make this extremely long and I do apologize. Does anyone have any suggestions please?
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Your idea of making an appointment with a therapist is already a great one. It will definitely help to have someone unbiased to talk about all of this. For that, it really doesn't if you smell bad or if it might be in your head. You will eventually feel better and that's what counts.
Do you get  white coating on your tongue ?
No, I don’t.
I am in the same boat as you are.. Shower, brush my teeth, use perfume, clean my clothes/house everything! Yet, as soon as I enter an open office space everyone is coughing almost immediately. It's absolutely brutal. Do you have any pets by any chance? Do you smoke cigarettes or weed?
If you don’t have a white tongue then I believe the problem is external on your skin, try having a salt bath for a week and lets see what happens
You only get itchy noses? consider yourself lucky. Coughing, sneezing, clearing throat, feeling sick, feeling hot. That's what I get on a daily basis.
My friend try fasting . i met a person who had a similar problem and its all about really putting work . i mean wash alot. He was a jehova witness . he was trying to tell me that was my solution really work.  Lufas soap. Etc. My friend ignore the negative people as much as possible . becareful of authorities.  Ok have a good day.
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I have patm and it was so foul that the fbi ordered that i be surveilled , so agents investigate monitor me until it goes away or they get even . I caused distruction to people and farm animal investments.  I want to pass some advice . the fbi hates people with patm and coming accross the wront agent and youll have to endure persecution. They have a satellite camera on me and they watch every move . im a simple person so they get inpatient and provoke me with their cars or equipment. Ok thanks for sharing your story. I live in a town called china. Its in Mexico. If you come here you will see the patm csse that should make the news.
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They intimidate anyone who live around my home and the businesses in town. I can work but the co workers are intimidated by the fbi so they psychologically bully me and it doesnt work so they could loose their temper and physically assault me or put their hands on me. Its dangerous the town cop are hating me to and they dont even know me. My friend are you from england? Its difficult in mexico the military patrols the whole country its a disorder of crimes by mafias. I outdid assange with staying inside pretty much near my home and to my self. The effective move is to ignore them but they come closer . Also i live in my granpas house which belongs to my uncle and dad. They get provoked for providing. Its so bad I find myself wanting to be homeless and walking south away from itimidators. I cant think like that because they will take me to a psychiatrist and a psych ward. My parents give me a little money. Im thinking if I behave then I can after a while move to the capital and rent an apartment and work then try buying a flight to costa rica and maybe there wont be fbi investigators surveilling me. I like what you had to say about them not finding anything thats what I try to get accross to them. That theyre wasting the goverments money since they have to get paid. It helps me when you respond to me , thanks.
What i see is that most people will not admit you have a disorder but they will give full attention to investigators and fear them . I think thats wrong it violates or rights. Plus they should work together with the comunity member and get him set up for progress and prevention. Not get him stressed by cooperating with authorities. Plus they dont care about the illness being contaminant to them they care about the investigators techniques that are attacks against people that are being monitored. Thank god i have a clean criminal record here in mexico.  In the united states i became depressed and paranoid from lack of participation and social fruits. Thats what the fbi wanted to make me experience and they sure got everyone in the little town to participate. I failed i tried to end my life by getting in trouble .  So i got deported and now they followed me into mexico and they operate against me with mexican military assistance. I believe they want me to give up on life, since its not a crime what I cause. What would you kind of do . I wish I knew wheater its bettet to move to other countrys or states or to be thankful for this food shelter and clothing im blessed with from my relatives. I cant get people to help me fight them off , the peopke are very afraid of them. And I dont blame them they intrude everywhere they can ruin your marrige or job. Theres a saying time will expose what interogation cannot. People have clearly seen that the investigators keeping tabs on me are only trying to get us to fight amongst ourself , but people still give them a hand when they ask them for assistance. So they tresspass against me. The investigators are unseparable and they been keepung tabs on me for longer than 12 years. I believe that I couldnt have caused that much damage and that they should leave me alone. Then I can work.
What helps reduce odor a little is fasting . I recommend fasting. Also a clean diet , salads mostly. So london girl do you try fasting?
Desarrollo del delirio paranoide en el paciente parafrénico:
-Los sentimientos de la gente que lo rodea parecen ser, al mismo tiempo, todo menos amigables.
-Los internados lo miran sarcásticamente; cuchichean y hacen sonidos misteriosos; se apartan unos de los otros tan pronto como él llega. En la mesa del restaurante se mofan de él; se dicen cosas raras; sus compañeros son crueles; lo miran con recelo, lo evitan, lo saludan sin cortesía, se apartan de él. "Se nota cuando alguien tiene buenos sentimientos" decía un paciente.
-Tan pronto como entra a un restaurante, la gente comienza a irse. La gente escupe delante de él, carraspea, tose suavemente, estornuda en forma llamativa, arrastra los pies, imitan su tos, lo atropellan. Los detectives se arremolinan a su alrededor; tiene la impresión de estar bajo control policial.
- Siempre y en todas partes hay pinchazos, por todos lados chicana y hostilidad. "Nunca termina lo que sucede allí", decía un paciente, "en todas partes veo indirectas, insinuaciones, mil cosas que no pueden describirse, que deben experimentarse para comprenderse". También consideraba un vidrio de lámpara roto o el otorgamiento de la medalla militar, como un insulto deliberado. Otro paciente hacía la observación de que el número siete lo perseguía a todas partes, y que sus compañeros de viaje en el tren invariablemente se agrupaban con la forma de la Osa Mayor.

Gradualmente, la persecución se torna cada vez más evidente.
- El paciente ya no puede encontrar descanso; se le hacen bromas siempre; todo se hace para desafiarlo: la gente trabaja sistemáticamente en su contra. Se incita a los sirvientes en su contra, no lo pueden soportar más; los niños ya no lo respetan; la gente trata de hacerle perder su posición, de evitar que se case, de minar su existencia, de conducirlo a la noche de la locura.
- Las pacientes perciben que la gente está intentando deshonrarlas, seducirlas, de avergonzarlas. Se llevan a cabo asuntos secretos en la casa; personas extrañas están en el pasillo.
- El paciente comprueba que están robando sus cosas, que hubo una "visita domiciliaria secreta". Se forzó la cerradura; se rompieron sus cajones, se examinaron sus cosas, se las arrojó desordenadamente, se cambiaron de lugar los muebles. Su cama está sucia; sus ropas están rotas; bloquean el horno, dejan que el aire viciado entre en la habitación, repentinamente se corta el agua; se ocultan las cartas.
- La cerveza produce cólicos, el pan una quemadura en el cerebro, hay vapores envenenados en la casa; hay un polvo sospechoso en la cama; el doctor da una medicina azul que sin duda contiene ácido prúsico y se tiene la intención de que provoque la muerte del paciente.
- Como consecuencia de esto, el paciente se siente "espiado" en todas partes y amenazado, inseguro aún con las puertas cerradas con llave; es un acoso sin igual, una estafa, y un engaño, "todo el asunto se conoce en el pueblo". "Hay un alboroto constante” declaraba un paciente.
- Obviamente existe una conspiración continua que lleva a cabo la persecución; a veces son los socialdemócratas, la "guardia roja” a veces los francmasones, a veces los jesuitas, los católicos, los espiritistas, el Emperador Alemán, la "unión Central", los miembros del club, los vecinos, los parientes, la esposa, pero especialmente las antiguas amantes, quienes causan todo el daño.
You are already delirious, you already have disorder .....
Development of paranoid delirium in the paraphrenic patient:
-The feelings of the people around him seem to be, at the same time, everything but friendly.
-Inmates look at him sarcastically; they whisper and make mysterious sounds; they move away from each other as soon as he arrives. At the restaurant table they mock him; weird things are said; his companions are cruel; they look at him suspiciously, avoid him, greet him without courtesy, turn away from him. "It shows when someone has good feelings," said one patient.
-As soon as you enter a restaurant, people start to leave. People spit in front of him, he clears his throat, coughs softly, sneezes loudly, drags his feet, imitates his cough, runs him over. Detectives swirl around them; He has the impression of being under police control.
- Always and everywhere there are punctures, everywhere Chicana and hostility. "It never ends what happens there," said one patient, "everywhere I see hints, insinuations, a thousand things that cannot be described, that must be experienced in order to understand each other." He also considered a broken lamp glass or the awarding of the military medal, as a deliberate insult. Another patient made the observation that the number seven was chasing him everywhere, and that his fellow travelers on the train invariably grouped themselves in the shape of the Big Dipper.

Gradually, the persecution becomes increasingly evident.
- The patient can no longer find rest; you are always joking; Everything is done to challenge it: people work systematically against it. Servants are urged against him, they can't take it anymore; the children no longer respect him; people try to make him lose his position, to prevent him from marrying, to undermine his existence, to lead him to the night of madness.
- Patients perceive that people are trying to dishonor them, seduce them, shame them. Secret matters are carried out in the house; Strange people are in the hall.
- The patient checks that they are stealing their things, that there was a "secret home visit". The lock was forced; their drawers were broken, their things were examined, they were thrown in disarray, the furniture was moved. His bed is dirty; their clothes are broken; they block the oven, let stale air enter the room, suddenly the water is cut off; The letters are hidden.
- Beer produces cramps, bread a burn in the brain, there are poisoned vapors in the house; there is a suspicious dust in the bed; The doctor gives a blue medicine that undoubtedly contains prussic acid and is intended to cause the death of the patient.
- As a consequence of this, the patient feels "spied on" everywhere and threatened, insecure even with the doors locked; it is an unsurpassed harassment, a scam, and a hoax, "the whole thing is known in the town." "There is a constant uproar," said one patient.
- Obviously there is a continuous conspiracy that carries out the persecution; sometimes they are the social democrats, the "red guard" sometimes the Freemasons, sometimes the Jesuits, the Catholics, the spiritualists, the German Emperor, the "Central Union", the club members, the neighbors, the relatives, the wife , but especially the old lovers, who cause all the damage.
By having PATM and not having a logical answer they reach these extremes since no one so far can understand or prove that in fact PATM.
It takes more than one shower a day more than one brush a day and a little fasting. Nice clothes in order ironed. Then you can participate in civilized society.  Londongirl 92 are you from england?
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I have somethibg in my butt that stays in the air and makes people sneeze. I can keep away bad odor from my butt.  Any body know anything about something like this?
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