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Am I going crazy?
Am I going crazy? Sometimes that sounds easier to deal with than PATM.
I believe there are a few elements needed for PATM to exist at least for me. The possible formula to develop PATM for me required:
1.) A weakened or IRREGULAR IMMUNE SYSTEM. I have an autoimmune disease and you may too, or perhaps you began phase 1 of PATM while you were sick, tired, stressed, or depleted in some way.
2.) An alien BACTERIA or internal bacteria build up
3.) And an active or dormant INFECTIOUS DISEASE
IIS + B + ID = PATM
1.) There are tons of very Common Autoimmune Diseases like: arthritis, anemia, alopecia (hair loss), psoriasis, IBD (Inflammatory Bowel Disease), diabetes, hay fever, Thyroid disease (Hashimoto's, Grave's), hepatitis, Multiple sclerosis, lupus, and Vitiligo to name a few (GERD recently was indicated as a possible autoimmune disorder by the UT Southwestern Medical Center).
2.) People we are around regularly or rarely that do not react probably have an immune system that has adapted or is too strong to be affected by our bacteria. I seem to believe at this point that an Infection stage or disease stage of one of these very common bacteria with some type of contagious disease is the problem for me:
1.) Staphylococcus
2.) Pseudomonas
3.) Candida - Virtually all autoimmune diseases have Candida manifested...digestive disturbances, sinus infections, vaginal yeast infections or thrush are common.
3.) My dormant infectious disease indicator is that I recently found out that I had mononucleosis at some point in my life. It could be a case of mono, herpes, hepatitis, typhoid fever, or any type of contagious disease that interacts with the bacteria to create the PATM affect.
It should also be noted that the difference between having an allergic reaction to something and having an autoimmune condition or disease is very similar. Mold, mildew, chemical, and food allergies are simply reactions to a stimulus by your own immune system. If someone is "Allergic To Me or To You," then their immune system is reacting to us. When we cough, sneeze, and scratch our immune system is often rejecting an unwanted stimulus. I believe that I produce something in the air that many other immune systems don't like. I’m not an authority and I have no proof of anything above, but I know that we all have different symptoms and different manifestations that we have to figure out for ourselves or collectively. Good Luck and God’s Luck to all.
I believe there are a few elements needed for PATM to exist at least for me. The possible formula to develop PATM for me required:
1.) A weakened or IRREGULAR IMMUNE SYSTEM. I have an autoimmune disease and you may too, or perhaps you began phase 1 of PATM while you were sick, tired, stressed, or depleted in some way.
2.) An alien BACTERIA or internal bacteria build up
3.) And an active or dormant INFECTIOUS DISEASE
IIS + B + ID = PATM
1.) There are tons of very Common Autoimmune Diseases like: arthritis, anemia, alopecia (hair loss), psoriasis, IBD (Inflammatory Bowel Disease), diabetes, hay fever, Thyroid disease (Hashimoto's, Grave's), hepatitis, Multiple sclerosis, lupus, and Vitiligo to name a few (GERD recently was indicated as a possible autoimmune disorder by the UT Southwestern Medical Center).
2.) People we are around regularly or rarely that do not react probably have an immune system that has adapted or is too strong to be affected by our bacteria. I seem to believe at this point that an Infection stage or disease stage of one of these very common bacteria with some type of contagious disease is the problem for me:
1.) Staphylococcus
2.) Pseudomonas
3.) Candida - Virtually all autoimmune diseases have Candida manifested...digestive disturbances, sinus infections, vaginal yeast infections or thrush are common.
3.) My dormant infectious disease indicator is that I recently found out that I had mononucleosis at some point in my life. It could be a case of mono, herpes, hepatitis, typhoid fever, or any type of contagious disease that interacts with the bacteria to create the PATM affect.
It should also be noted that the difference between having an allergic reaction to something and having an autoimmune condition or disease is very similar. Mold, mildew, chemical, and food allergies are simply reactions to a stimulus by your own immune system. If someone is "Allergic To Me or To You," then their immune system is reacting to us. When we cough, sneeze, and scratch our immune system is often rejecting an unwanted stimulus. I believe that I produce something in the air that many other immune systems don't like. I’m not an authority and I have no proof of anything above, but I know that we all have different symptoms and different manifestations that we have to figure out for ourselves or collectively. Good Luck and God’s Luck to all.
Hi there, I'm Patm for almost 2 year, I'm an aromatherapists who have a good knowledge about contagious disease and natural cures.
This disease as you know, cause to people reactions such as:
• Sneezing
• Coughing
• Runny nose
• Itchy nose
• Headache
• Nausea
• Stomach pain
• Sore throat
• Rubbing their faces
But, did someone notice people running to toilet having symptoms like:
•Diarrhea
•Vomiting
•Rashes
•Fainting
as I read in some forums, some of you did, especially those ones working around a lot of people every day like me.
I'm sorry guys, but these are all symptoms of a communicable disease.
I do believe that PATM is contagious illness. I'm so scared to admit that,
that's why I didn't speak with anybody about that, but it is the truth, and I can even prove it.
*I've seen people who I never met in my life reacting in video chat cause they were in the same room with people normally living close to me like my girlfriend my friends and my family. You can try to do this test, it's pretty simple:
*Just call or video call a person living close to you in a moment that she or he is with people you never met in you life, you will hear/see people reacting.*
Some Patm people believe that this is some kind of energy that somehow can get passed through a call or video call causing the reaction, cause they have noticed the symptoms on the other side of the screen, and they are not able to explain how it is possible. The truth is what I've just said, it is a contagious illness or better to call it unidentified contagious disease.
How does it spread to people?
Patm can spread to people in different ways:
•By breathing the same air
(Normally if the normal person in breathing the air just for a short period of time will not develop Patm);
•After an operation or blood transfusion
(The disease is contained in the blood we are not able to see it's presence while conducting the routine blood tests);
•After insects bites
(Insect are just the carrier of the disease not the cause, the carry the illness after bite someone who has it in the blood);
By sexual contact or interaction with body fluids
(This is the main cause of Patm, cause the illness will cross your natural body defences, and will go straight into your bloodstream ready to grow up).
We are talking about an insidious disease of no doctor knows anything about; This has not been identified yet, cause we look healthy, maybe we are, but we are still CARRIER of a disease.
(carrier [kar´e-er] is an individual who harbors the specific organisms of a disease without manifest symptoms and is capable of transmitting the infection).
This disease is carried in the nose and mouth of a lot of people in the same way like other viruses and bacterias, and this is one of the most common cause of "cold" in people, the difference between a Patm and a normal person that have just been infected is that we are always contagious, but they are gonna be contagious just for a short period of time like a normal cold, (why this?) It's all about how long you have been exposed to this illness, the longer you have been with a Patm the more this disease grows up into your body, and the more it will keep growing up in your body, the more your body will develop antibodies and the less will react (that's why Family be friends don't seem reacting that often). This kind of patogen most of the time doesn't lead to fever or to other symptoms like a traditional bacterial/viral infection cause as I said most of the people carry this, so the body have had already the possibility to develop antibodies, that's why lot of people seems not reacting. As you know, there are some things that when you eat or drink can make your reactions worse, that's because this patogen is growing up eating those things;
It loves sugar that why when you drink alcohol or coffee it make your reactions worse. This is a patogen infection, I got proof of this, and now I will tell you how to see this "with your eyes" literally.
I know that what I'm about to say could appear insane, but I still feel like sharing this with you, thats why will make it easier explaining this to you with a test that you can practice at home.
As you know Patm makes people rubbing their faces and eyes, but have you ever asked yourself how this ("energy", molecule or patogen) is made? What is his physical structure?
You eyes have got a natural lens that is the key to literally see the enemy we are fighting with.
Now it's time to put yourself comfortable infront of the window (possibly in a nice a bright day, cause the light is the key of this experiment) open the window, look outside the brighter part in the sky for a few seconds, after that gaze a point in the sky and keep looking at it... after few seconds your eyes will adapt themselves to the light and will focus on this pathogen which is also present on your eyest; the result? You will see these small pathogens like a kind of bacterias moving following a "flagellar motion", these is the responsible of the reactions and this is kind bacterias/parasite is eating what we eat day by day ,(that's why if you notice since you started being Patm you have had a weight loss. Other people could had had weight gain instead cause the fact that the body can't save sugars and energy to itself lead people to eat more).
I have a lot of things to say about this and I'm still doing my research, should you have any questions please don't hesitate to contact me.
I'm looking forward to hearing back from you,
Regards to everyone!
A fighter against PATM.
This disease as you know, cause to people reactions such as:
• Sneezing
• Coughing
• Runny nose
• Itchy nose
• Headache
• Nausea
• Stomach pain
• Sore throat
• Rubbing their faces
But, did someone notice people running to toilet having symptoms like:
•Diarrhea
•Vomiting
•Rashes
•Fainting
as I read in some forums, some of you did, especially those ones working around a lot of people every day like me.
I'm sorry guys, but these are all symptoms of a communicable disease.
I do believe that PATM is contagious illness. I'm so scared to admit that,
that's why I didn't speak with anybody about that, but it is the truth, and I can even prove it.
*I've seen people who I never met in my life reacting in video chat cause they were in the same room with people normally living close to me like my girlfriend my friends and my family. You can try to do this test, it's pretty simple:
*Just call or video call a person living close to you in a moment that she or he is with people you never met in you life, you will hear/see people reacting.*
Some Patm people believe that this is some kind of energy that somehow can get passed through a call or video call causing the reaction, cause they have noticed the symptoms on the other side of the screen, and they are not able to explain how it is possible. The truth is what I've just said, it is a contagious illness or better to call it unidentified contagious disease.
How does it spread to people?
Patm can spread to people in different ways:
•By breathing the same air
(Normally if the normal person in breathing the air just for a short period of time will not develop Patm);
•After an operation or blood transfusion
(The disease is contained in the blood we are not able to see it's presence while conducting the routine blood tests);
•After insects bites
(Insect are just the carrier of the disease not the cause, the carry the illness after bite someone who has it in the blood);
By sexual contact or interaction with body fluids
(This is the main cause of Patm, cause the illness will cross your natural body defences, and will go straight into your bloodstream ready to grow up).
We are talking about an insidious disease of no doctor knows anything about; This has not been identified yet, cause we look healthy, maybe we are, but we are still CARRIER of a disease.
(carrier [kar´e-er] is an individual who harbors the specific organisms of a disease without manifest symptoms and is capable of transmitting the infection).
This disease is carried in the nose and mouth of a lot of people in the same way like other viruses and bacterias, and this is one of the most common cause of "cold" in people, the difference between a Patm and a normal person that have just been infected is that we are always contagious, but they are gonna be contagious just for a short period of time like a normal cold, (why this?) It's all about how long you have been exposed to this illness, the longer you have been with a Patm the more this disease grows up into your body, and the more it will keep growing up in your body, the more your body will develop antibodies and the less will react (that's why Family be friends don't seem reacting that often). This kind of patogen most of the time doesn't lead to fever or to other symptoms like a traditional bacterial/viral infection cause as I said most of the people carry this, so the body have had already the possibility to develop antibodies, that's why lot of people seems not reacting. As you know, there are some things that when you eat or drink can make your reactions worse, that's because this patogen is growing up eating those things;
It loves sugar that why when you drink alcohol or coffee it make your reactions worse. This is a patogen infection, I got proof of this, and now I will tell you how to see this "with your eyes" literally.
I know that what I'm about to say could appear insane, but I still feel like sharing this with you, thats why will make it easier explaining this to you with a test that you can practice at home.
As you know Patm makes people rubbing their faces and eyes, but have you ever asked yourself how this ("energy", molecule or patogen) is made? What is his physical structure?
You eyes have got a natural lens that is the key to literally see the enemy we are fighting with.
Now it's time to put yourself comfortable infront of the window (possibly in a nice a bright day, cause the light is the key of this experiment) open the window, look outside the brighter part in the sky for a few seconds, after that gaze a point in the sky and keep looking at it... after few seconds your eyes will adapt themselves to the light and will focus on this pathogen which is also present on your eyest; the result? You will see these small pathogens like a kind of bacterias moving following a "flagellar motion", these is the responsible of the reactions and this is kind bacterias/parasite is eating what we eat day by day ,(that's why if you notice since you started being Patm you have had a weight loss. Other people could had had weight gain instead cause the fact that the body can't save sugars and energy to itself lead people to eat more).
I have a lot of things to say about this and I'm still doing my research, should you have any questions please don't hesitate to contact me.
I'm looking forward to hearing back from you,
Regards to everyone!
A fighter against PATM.
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Check out Helichrysum essential oil , Google for more info /research - I have found it to be very effective in eliminating my recent return of PATM reactions from people.
God Bless always !
God Bless always !
I think everybody has experienced "eye floaters" before. A simple google search reveals that they have to do with collagen in the eye. They have nothing to do with PATM.
I am also facing exactly the same. How can i contact you. I am from India
The two long posts above (PATMOG and PATMsufferer) are right on (with the exception of the eyefloaters which are just that...eyefloaters). I think it is a type of paramyxovirus that lives in the glands right behind the molars...I noticed that these glands would feel uncomfortable at certain times, and my present treatment is aimed at that area...I also think this is somehow related to the virus that the diplomats in Cuba got which caused hearing loss...it is some kind of weaponized virus
Sometimes I want to read more the forum, I understand that each one tries to solve, I want to think.
PatmSurferer; suggests the experiment to try the PATM but I try again and again nothing happens to me, on the other hand mentions that the PATMers thin or fatten, I mean how? Not clear anything just confuse with that mention of weight gain or lose weight being PATMer, I lost weight but for the diets for almost 2 years, try all kinds of diets (candida, vegan, antihistaminic, anemia, celiac, etcs), I think the The majority who mentioned here the weight loss was for the diets that supposedly helped to diminish or eliminate the PATM (nowadays I am recovering my normal weight).
On the other hand it mentions that PATM can be contagious, because according to I the contagious of the PATM does not seem logical to me, because; Infectious or contagious diseases are transmitted by bacteria, living bacteria that multiply rapidly when they pass from one body to another, but bacteria are unlikely to travel distances and survive hostile climates, the bacteria that humans have do not survive in the air for a long time and less can travel long distances in such a short time, I mean, PATM itself does not seem to be contagious. On the other hand I was with several girls these last (obviously they did not react to my PATM), I had sexual relations with and without a condom and until now they are all normal, they do not present any symptom of PATM, besides as they explain that an infectious bacterium travels through the electrical fibers and reach the other by phone or video call? There is no such thing.
The molecules that cause are mutations, that mutations only occur when there is a prolonged time of exposure to said substance (molecules), for example the radiation that gives off emanates molecules of that combination and leads the human being to his death or the same gas that the anti-riot police use to disperse protesters, are molecules that do not produce direct disease, but intoxicate or produce mutations if exposed for a prolonged time in said substance, the molecules could have the ability to travel through the electronic fiber or communication? That if I do not know. I am in an apartment where 4 or 5 families live, sometimes they react to my PATM but none so exaggerated, at most I will sometimes hear a cough-hawking a day (I speak of my neighbors), apparently nobody is infected with my PATM since I live there almost 3 years.
Via the fluids it may be contagious, but as I mentioned before (I had sex with women in the last few months just to experiment.) I did not present any symptoms since I did it mainly to know if it was real or not (It really cost me do it since I came a long time avoiding women, from my work some even told me that maybe I was a gay just because I avoided haha).
I am not a chemist or biologist etc, I simply explained my writing with my basic logic and basic knowledge, I do not know what PATM will be, at least mine is reducing by reducing little by little, I am with a normal diet I only reduce refined sugars but rarely, I am recovering my normal weight ......
I can only wish you a better life for all PATM carriers, greetings.
PatmSurferer; suggests the experiment to try the PATM but I try again and again nothing happens to me, on the other hand mentions that the PATMers thin or fatten, I mean how? Not clear anything just confuse with that mention of weight gain or lose weight being PATMer, I lost weight but for the diets for almost 2 years, try all kinds of diets (candida, vegan, antihistaminic, anemia, celiac, etcs), I think the The majority who mentioned here the weight loss was for the diets that supposedly helped to diminish or eliminate the PATM (nowadays I am recovering my normal weight).
On the other hand it mentions that PATM can be contagious, because according to I the contagious of the PATM does not seem logical to me, because; Infectious or contagious diseases are transmitted by bacteria, living bacteria that multiply rapidly when they pass from one body to another, but bacteria are unlikely to travel distances and survive hostile climates, the bacteria that humans have do not survive in the air for a long time and less can travel long distances in such a short time, I mean, PATM itself does not seem to be contagious. On the other hand I was with several girls these last (obviously they did not react to my PATM), I had sexual relations with and without a condom and until now they are all normal, they do not present any symptom of PATM, besides as they explain that an infectious bacterium travels through the electrical fibers and reach the other by phone or video call? There is no such thing.
The molecules that cause are mutations, that mutations only occur when there is a prolonged time of exposure to said substance (molecules), for example the radiation that gives off emanates molecules of that combination and leads the human being to his death or the same gas that the anti-riot police use to disperse protesters, are molecules that do not produce direct disease, but intoxicate or produce mutations if exposed for a prolonged time in said substance, the molecules could have the ability to travel through the electronic fiber or communication? That if I do not know. I am in an apartment where 4 or 5 families live, sometimes they react to my PATM but none so exaggerated, at most I will sometimes hear a cough-hawking a day (I speak of my neighbors), apparently nobody is infected with my PATM since I live there almost 3 years.
Via the fluids it may be contagious, but as I mentioned before (I had sex with women in the last few months just to experiment.) I did not present any symptoms since I did it mainly to know if it was real or not (It really cost me do it since I came a long time avoiding women, from my work some even told me that maybe I was a gay just because I avoided haha).
I am not a chemist or biologist etc, I simply explained my writing with my basic logic and basic knowledge, I do not know what PATM will be, at least mine is reducing by reducing little by little, I am with a normal diet I only reduce refined sugars but rarely, I am recovering my normal weight ......
I can only wish you a better life for all PATM carriers, greetings.
I have a “black dot” in my eye that showed up when the patm did. I thought it was a parasite or black mold somehow. I am 100% sure it is not a floater. It’s very possible this person may be on to something. Some people may not have this. But it is possible that it is part of the problem. What is in my eye may also be in the body. I’m so tired of sounding crazy but that is the truth for those looking for clues. I believe my body is having a hard time fighting infections of all kinds at the moment. Still no cold or flu though for 2 years.
I have said this started for me after an hiv scare. Condom broke i got flu. That was years ago but no one wants to talk about it because tgey are not dying
No you are not going crazy and look at the latest posts on this thread:
http://www.medhelp.org/posts/People-Allergic-to-Me-PATM/People-Are-Allergic-To-Me-PATM/show/4415#post_comment
I had PATM for the latest 3 months and am now completely cured.
The treatment is easy to follow.
The source problem to PATM and a myriad of other immune system disorders including all types of skin conditions is Systemic Candida - which is candida yeast overgrowth that muted and took over your body. This stuff releases more than 70 different kinds of toxins in huge quantities and your body is getting rid of some through the skin pores as it is overloaded.
All info and cure treatment on above thread.
Good luck and let us know how you go.
xx
http://www.medhelp.org/posts/People-Allergic-to-Me-PATM/People-Are-Allergic-To-Me-PATM/show/4415#post_comment
I had PATM for the latest 3 months and am now completely cured.
The treatment is easy to follow.
The source problem to PATM and a myriad of other immune system disorders including all types of skin conditions is Systemic Candida - which is candida yeast overgrowth that muted and took over your body. This stuff releases more than 70 different kinds of toxins in huge quantities and your body is getting rid of some through the skin pores as it is overloaded.
All info and cure treatment on above thread.
Good luck and let us know how you go.
xx
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