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EVENTUALLY MY PATM GONE !!! READ THIS.
Hello, i registered this website only to write this and help others who are suffering from PATM.
A little bit about me. i suffer from Patm for more than 2 years. i was graduated from my university as top student, i was social and my life was beautiful till i started to make people have extreme cough, sneeze and such terrible disturbance. believe me it was so bad that i stopped going out, traveling by metro and buses were total nightmare as you can guess. I noticed i had 100% relief. (i wanna knock the wood, i hope it continues)
What i did was a combination of many i guess. First of all long time ago i stopped eating sugar, chocolates many other things. still i continue this diet for fear but to be honest even i dont eat anything i had extreme PATM.
what i do daily. it may seem too much but it is actually a few pills and the prize is precious as you can guess.
1. thing in the morning before breakfast i take one capsule Psyllium Husks Fibre. one Grapeseed Extract cap. and one Resveratrol capsule.
2. I have very light breakfast and after that i take 2 or 3 Betaine HCL with pepsin.
(and one COenzyme but i dont know if it helps too because before others i was taking only coenzyme and probiotics it was helpful but not that much!!!)
3. WHENEVER I eat something heavy (not when i eat something very light- not after a snack) I immediately take one digestive enzyme pill, and 2-3 Betaine HCL pepsin pills.
4. At night, before having dinner i again take the pills i take in the morning, one Psyllium Husks Fibre. one Grapeseed Extract pill and one Resveratrol pill.
by the way since i have sinusitis all my life, i put one drop to each nostril something herbal, a kind of oil (i dont know the ingredients to be honest) i bought from herbal store.
it is a bit money consuming but hell worth as you all know :)) I am extremely happy now and of course i am afraid that it may come back again one day. so far incredible feeling, like i am reborn :)))
I wish all of you out there will get rid of this sickness and go back to your lives again. Try it and please spread it, post your experience too so that people like us can benefit too.
A little bit about me. i suffer from Patm for more than 2 years. i was graduated from my university as top student, i was social and my life was beautiful till i started to make people have extreme cough, sneeze and such terrible disturbance. believe me it was so bad that i stopped going out, traveling by metro and buses were total nightmare as you can guess. I noticed i had 100% relief. (i wanna knock the wood, i hope it continues)
What i did was a combination of many i guess. First of all long time ago i stopped eating sugar, chocolates many other things. still i continue this diet for fear but to be honest even i dont eat anything i had extreme PATM.
what i do daily. it may seem too much but it is actually a few pills and the prize is precious as you can guess.
1. thing in the morning before breakfast i take one capsule Psyllium Husks Fibre. one Grapeseed Extract cap. and one Resveratrol capsule.
2. I have very light breakfast and after that i take 2 or 3 Betaine HCL with pepsin.
(and one COenzyme but i dont know if it helps too because before others i was taking only coenzyme and probiotics it was helpful but not that much!!!)
3. WHENEVER I eat something heavy (not when i eat something very light- not after a snack) I immediately take one digestive enzyme pill, and 2-3 Betaine HCL pepsin pills.
4. At night, before having dinner i again take the pills i take in the morning, one Psyllium Husks Fibre. one Grapeseed Extract pill and one Resveratrol pill.
by the way since i have sinusitis all my life, i put one drop to each nostril something herbal, a kind of oil (i dont know the ingredients to be honest) i bought from herbal store.
it is a bit money consuming but hell worth as you all know :)) I am extremely happy now and of course i am afraid that it may come back again one day. so far incredible feeling, like i am reborn :)))
I wish all of you out there will get rid of this sickness and go back to your lives again. Try it and please spread it, post your experience too so that people like us can benefit too.
hi all, i sign up this website just to write this. PATM not about spritual, imagination or something. it is real. im suffered this disease about 1 year, and it is more crazy everyday until i read this post and try to find grape seed. i eat 1 tablet (50 mg) and, miracle, it is reduce about 70% my PATM effect. I just only eat 1 tablet and hav confidence to meet people again. currently i just eat 1 tablet because i read the side effect of grape seed. I eat it before i going to sleep, it is feel hard to my body when i eat that grape seed tablet, but i believe i must strong this night and waiting the effect. next morning after i wake up from sleep, there is like i in other world, almost no more cough near me. just some kids. Maybe need 2 or 3 tablet to cure it, but just with 1 tablet i have confidence to meet people
By the way as for q10 plus omega 3 supplements; i was using them for many months it definitely in few days cured my face skin (the bad condition i had, i explained above) but it didnt improve my patm symptoms, but i am repeting i am still using it too, one in the morning. i am taking all the things together, thats why i dont have correct answer for you about which one helps more.
before (and still i am taking 2 pills of probiotics in a day) i was using q10 + probiotics + lately started digestive enzymes(this helped some)
after that in addition to these things i started to take hcl betaine pepsin + resveratrol + grapeseed extract pills + Psyllium Husks Fibre(1 in a day) + i forgot to mention after breakfast 1 pill containing magnesium calcium zinc mixture.
yes it is money consuming especially in my country because of high taxes i pay double of what a person pays in USA. but it worked for me. i dont know what will happen for you, i just wanted to everybody know.
i will write more about ingredients of what i use later on. for resveratrol and grapeseed; right now i can not recall but i have done a lot research about it and there was a difference (by the way nowadays i am taking one grapeseed pill not 2)
before (and still i am taking 2 pills of probiotics in a day) i was using q10 + probiotics + lately started digestive enzymes(this helped some)
after that in addition to these things i started to take hcl betaine pepsin + resveratrol + grapeseed extract pills + Psyllium Husks Fibre(1 in a day) + i forgot to mention after breakfast 1 pill containing magnesium calcium zinc mixture.
yes it is money consuming especially in my country because of high taxes i pay double of what a person pays in USA. but it worked for me. i dont know what will happen for you, i just wanted to everybody know.
i will write more about ingredients of what i use later on. for resveratrol and grapeseed; right now i can not recall but i have done a lot research about it and there was a difference (by the way nowadays i am taking one grapeseed pill not 2)
Hi everyone, i am sorry, it`s been a busy week for me. when i have time i will write everything i take in detail with names. this worked for me for sure. and for the questions in your head believe it or not i had worst patm symptoms, it was very heavy.
i will write every detail, ingredients. i hope it works for you too. i wish i can help anyone with this sickness.
i will write every detail, ingredients. i hope it works for you too. i wish i can help anyone with this sickness.
Hello
I think there is a link with coenzyme Q10
this element was detected as missing in my blood tests
in my opinion the problem would come from coenzyme Q10
but what creates its deficit?
I think there is a link with coenzyme Q10
this element was detected as missing in my blood tests
in my opinion the problem would come from coenzyme Q10
but what creates its deficit?
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Have you tried Coenzyme Q10? Did you improve your status with PATM? Look, the best way to contribute is by testing, I provide but without the coenzyme q10 and I must say that nothing improves, I am as before, although my PATM has been improving for another reason that I am practicing, this new recipe (resveratrol , Betaine pepsin HCL) did not improve anything in me, recently another said that L-nac plus vitamin C improved but it was not, they did nothing of effect on me, as that other was almost 2 months, with this other recipe I am 5 days and nothing until now. It would be good if they contribute with verifications, the hypothesis abounds, there is a lack of experience.
Hi everyone, I have been suffering from patm for more than 20 years. I remember exactly how I got this disease. My ex partner came back from a holiday overseas, he had a very big moustache and after he kissed me on his return my chin began to itch really bad. It was like something was crawling on him and it either bit me or got under my skin, this has been hell for all these years and I have searched for a cure for a long time now. My doctor had no idea about this and I have tried antibiotics without success. My face hurts all of the time and in particular my nose itches and hurts. This is now affecting my eyes and I often have blurred vision. In 2013 my doctor removed a piece of my skin from face and had it tested, the results came back saying this piece of skin was severely burnt! This was not the case as I never exposed my face to the sun. I still believe this is some kind of parasite. I look forward to your comments.
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hi i am so sorry for your situation :( i wish you find solutions very soon. although i read much about parasites and patm while i was searching for a cure, i really have no concrete information about the things you wrote.
Have you tried coenzyme???
I can suggest you something only from my experience; (excuse my english maybe i am not able to explain things precisely) around 5 months ago, suddenly red areas appeared on my face started to become worse day by day. very itchy and awful looking. i can say whoever sees my face would think i have some kind of sickness. it was first on my cheeks, later down parts of the cheeks and eventually it went sides and upside of the nose and forehead (only on the area right above nose). it was looking like i had some kind of allergic reaction. very red areas not like pimples, wider areas. and sometimes especially after bath it was extremely dry and peeling like i am changing skin...
later, i went a famous dermotalogist, he is a well known doctor in istanbul (to take appointment i waited 1 month) to my luck that day red parts diminished dramatically and doctor didnt take it seriously (and i couldnt say anything)
anyway he gave me a cream and it didnt work for me. after i hvae done a research started to take probiotics and at the same time i bought this product:
"Coenzim Q10 (Ubiquinol) with Omega 3" tablets. it is one pill including 100mg ubiquinol and 600mg omega 3.
this i take everyday in the morning after breakfast.
I dont know maybe your case is completely different than mine but i wanted to share what worked for me. if you give it a try, keep me informed about the result ok.
i hope it will be helpful for you too.
Have you tried coenzyme???
I can suggest you something only from my experience; (excuse my english maybe i am not able to explain things precisely) around 5 months ago, suddenly red areas appeared on my face started to become worse day by day. very itchy and awful looking. i can say whoever sees my face would think i have some kind of sickness. it was first on my cheeks, later down parts of the cheeks and eventually it went sides and upside of the nose and forehead (only on the area right above nose). it was looking like i had some kind of allergic reaction. very red areas not like pimples, wider areas. and sometimes especially after bath it was extremely dry and peeling like i am changing skin...
later, i went a famous dermotalogist, he is a well known doctor in istanbul (to take appointment i waited 1 month) to my luck that day red parts diminished dramatically and doctor didnt take it seriously (and i couldnt say anything)
anyway he gave me a cream and it didnt work for me. after i hvae done a research started to take probiotics and at the same time i bought this product:
"Coenzim Q10 (Ubiquinol) with Omega 3" tablets. it is one pill including 100mg ubiquinol and 600mg omega 3.
this i take everyday in the morning after breakfast.
I dont know maybe your case is completely different than mine but i wanted to share what worked for me. if you give it a try, keep me informed about the result ok.
i hope it will be helpful for you too.
As it was, someone already tried?
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yes i did - no luck-- better off chewing raw garlic and liver
I did not have any luck either, I am testing for 5 days and it has no effect. Buy resveratrol and betaine hcl with pesin, the latter also buy L-nac acetylcysteine, without any success or effect .
I think he said grade seed extract was the main ingredient, though. I've tried all the above-mentioned stuff besides grape seed extract, and I haven't noticed a big change.
It is confusing sa part of Resveratrol and grape extract ....., why resveratrol is also grape seed extract, just compare the composition of both and you will see that they are the same or am I wrong?
Resveratrol is present in a lot of stuff including red wine, that's not the main thing. Grape seed extract has anti-bacterial and anti-fungal properties. You google "resveratrol anti fungal", you'll see that research has been done confirming that resveratrol doesn't help against candida in particular. Of the two, grape seed extract seems to have the best chance to help.
"THE BEST WAY TO SUPPLEMENT WITH GSE
To enjoy the maximum benefits of GSE, follow these guidelines:24
1. When buying GSE supplement, read the label carefully and make sure it contains 80 percent proanthocyanidins. This level guarantees the supplement will stimulate body activities that will result in antioxidant behavior.
2. Take GSE supplement with other vitamins or supplements because it works well with other natural supplements and vitamins. For instance, Vitamin C and Vitamin E improve the absorption of grape seed extract. Also, Vitamin E’s healthy and beauty benefits boost when taken with antioxidants.
3. The recommended daily dose of GSE for adults is 150 to 300mg per day. Consume the dose on a regular basis so your body can adapt to its regular absorption.
Grape Seed Extract, 100% natural and safe, is good news for its health and beauty boosting properties. And in this day and age, when more and more people are looking for natural treatments and preventative care, GSE is more popular than ever."
To enjoy the maximum benefits of GSE, follow these guidelines:24
1. When buying GSE supplement, read the label carefully and make sure it contains 80 percent proanthocyanidins. This level guarantees the supplement will stimulate body activities that will result in antioxidant behavior.
2. Take GSE supplement with other vitamins or supplements because it works well with other natural supplements and vitamins. For instance, Vitamin C and Vitamin E improve the absorption of grape seed extract. Also, Vitamin E’s healthy and beauty benefits boost when taken with antioxidants.
3. The recommended daily dose of GSE for adults is 150 to 300mg per day. Consume the dose on a regular basis so your body can adapt to its regular absorption.
Grape Seed Extract, 100% natural and safe, is good news for its health and beauty boosting properties. And in this day and age, when more and more people are looking for natural treatments and preventative care, GSE is more popular than ever."
Grape seed extract doesn't work for me.But I wanna ask if someone reduce electromagnetic exposure does it work?
Hello all, I don't know if there much differences in different brands but for resveratrol pills I bought Solgar brand. And for grapeseed extract, fortunately I live in Turkey and I bought this one I gave you link. But I guess it sells only inside Turkey, but you can search for the ingredients, I don't think there will be so much difference from the ones you will find in your countries. https://urun.gittigidiyor.com/spor-outdoor/balen-uzum-cekirdegi-ekstrakti-60-kapsul-307732782
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Thank you! I'll order some and give it a try.
One last question. How many MG resveratrol did you get? 100, 200, or 250 MG?
You are welcome. I want all of us have a cure, no human being deserves such a life we had been through. Sorry for late reply,I wasn't at home and I had to check the bottle I use. It has 60 pills. Look, on the bottle it is written that it contains 100mg resveratrol. But I guess on Internet it may write 200mg, half is resveratrol, the other half is bulking agent (whatever it is) just make sure it has 100mg plain resveratrol in it. I don't know if less is enough but in my country I found only one option and went for it anyway.
How long were you taking Resveratrol before you noticed reactions going down or disappearing completely?
hello, as i said before, i was using for many months one Q10 coenzyme and 2 probiotic pills. and after a heavy meal one digestive enzyme. i was afraid of going out even for simple things (like going to grocery store). later on, i guess it was almost a month ago, i read some article, i was so much desperate, that i can not explain, one day i bought them all the things i wrote on my first post. i didnt even think it will give me cure.
first day, i live alone and i didnt go out at all so i dont know if it was effective right away. but second day, i went out get in a bus with the fear in my heart like i live everyday in my past 2 years. but it was totally different. fingers crossed 1000 times. if i am not afraid of evil i, i wanna scream out of happiness now :))) i cant explain well in english but god knows what i have been through...
first day, i live alone and i didnt go out at all so i dont know if it was effective right away. but second day, i went out get in a bus with the fear in my heart like i live everyday in my past 2 years. but it was totally different. fingers crossed 1000 times. if i am not afraid of evil i, i wanna scream out of happiness now :))) i cant explain well in english but god knows what i have been through...
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Hi i feel sorry for everyone suffering from this sickness :(((( I am sure almost all of you are kind people like me. this is so sad. before getting in contact please tell me, send me message as to how can i help you. i really want to help. i am very afraid to be happy as i believe for these past years i have been so unlucky and this sickness will come back. thats why i dont wanna talk hundred percent surely but, thousands times thanks god i am ok so far.
just tell me how can i help you
just tell me how can i help you
I need to explain me the product that u used and cured realy i dont undrstand that product u mentioned above so i need more explanation of their names
So plz plz plz contact me in what ap
How long did it take for you to see results? Also, can you please post the brand of the specific supplement that you used or links to it?
Thank you!
Thank you!
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Hi, for me, incredibly, it was effective on the second day, but I am repeating, on the same day I took all of the pills I mentioned on my first post. Since, it was gone totally I think resveratrol and Grape Seed pills were the cure..
I again wish good luck to you all.
I again wish good luck to you all.
Wow, great that it works for you! Please allow me some more questions to get a better picture. :)
Did you have any digestive problems (gas, bloating, ...)?
Was your PATM accompanied by a bad odor?
Besides the pills and no sweets, are you on a special diet? Like no dairy/meat?
Again, fantastic you're having success, please keep us posted!
Did you have any digestive problems (gas, bloating, ...)?
Was your PATM accompanied by a bad odor?
Besides the pills and no sweets, are you on a special diet? Like no dairy/meat?
Again, fantastic you're having success, please keep us posted!
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Thank you so much! I am so much happy that there are no words to describe how i feel now.
Interestingly, as far as i know i havent had any digestive problems. no bloating at all, gas hmm sometimes maybe. but didnt have any pain or major issues about digestive issues.
I have no idea what kind of odor i had. But Believe me, It was so bad that I was thinking about committing suicide :(((( if i get in a bus, almost everyone even the person on the back seat was starting to cough, sneeze, and having all those chocking effects. i can guarantee you all, it wasnt my imagination. Every single day, every place i enter without any exception it was like nightmare. first, i thought it is BB i was trying not to breath when there are people around me, later on, after i researched as we all did, i noticed it is something more. believe me mine was one of the worst. for 2 years i was like living dead.
To give you more information. As i stated above, first i was thinking it is Bad breath. dentists checked my teeth and said no major issues at all. i even had surgery and had my tonsils taken. To be honest it affected a little bit in a good way but only a little. after that i had some information about my situation, and started to use probiotics (2 pills a day) and 1 coenzyme pill. it was helpful just a little bit again.
lastly i read about this DMB and TMAU relationship. so I decided to use all those pills altogether since none of them has a known adverse effect.
about your question concerning diet; to be honest, i stopped eating chocolates, cookies etc. it is been so long and i dont feel like eating anymore (i guess i got used to), but i can try them only to update you. and about meat, i am eating them. only sugar containing things i was avoiding.
you can ask me anything you wonder. i wish all of you out there would get rid of this life destroying disorder. so far, i had 100% relief. To be honest which one helped me most i have no idea. but i started using resveratrol and grape seeds extract pills at the same time and i guess that was the cure. but i am so much afraid that i still continue taking all of them :)
I wish you all good luck. i hope you all have cure too...
Interestingly, as far as i know i havent had any digestive problems. no bloating at all, gas hmm sometimes maybe. but didnt have any pain or major issues about digestive issues.
I have no idea what kind of odor i had. But Believe me, It was so bad that I was thinking about committing suicide :(((( if i get in a bus, almost everyone even the person on the back seat was starting to cough, sneeze, and having all those chocking effects. i can guarantee you all, it wasnt my imagination. Every single day, every place i enter without any exception it was like nightmare. first, i thought it is BB i was trying not to breath when there are people around me, later on, after i researched as we all did, i noticed it is something more. believe me mine was one of the worst. for 2 years i was like living dead.
To give you more information. As i stated above, first i was thinking it is Bad breath. dentists checked my teeth and said no major issues at all. i even had surgery and had my tonsils taken. To be honest it affected a little bit in a good way but only a little. after that i had some information about my situation, and started to use probiotics (2 pills a day) and 1 coenzyme pill. it was helpful just a little bit again.
lastly i read about this DMB and TMAU relationship. so I decided to use all those pills altogether since none of them has a known adverse effect.
about your question concerning diet; to be honest, i stopped eating chocolates, cookies etc. it is been so long and i dont feel like eating anymore (i guess i got used to), but i can try them only to update you. and about meat, i am eating them. only sugar containing things i was avoiding.
you can ask me anything you wonder. i wish all of you out there would get rid of this life destroying disorder. so far, i had 100% relief. To be honest which one helped me most i have no idea. but i started using resveratrol and grape seeds extract pills at the same time and i guess that was the cure. but i am so much afraid that i still continue taking all of them :)
I wish you all good luck. i hope you all have cure too...
Thank you for your detailed comment about your situation. It's really fascinating to read, because I've also done some of the things you mentioned (no sweets since a very long time and a recent tonsillectomy to eliminate the chance of bad breath).
You are welcome. I take all of them but you may try directly only 2 resveratrol and 2 grape seed extract pills in a day (one before breakfast, one before dinner), maybe only these two are enough.
Hi; resveratrol, píldoras de extracto de semilla de uva, tienen casi la misma propiedad;370 mg of Vitis Vinifera extract (50 mg of Resveratrol), Extracto Seco de Propóleos 70mg, Extracto Seco de Semilla de Uva 30mg, Vitamina E 18mg (9 U.I.). esta bien eso, es similar lo que consumes?
HI. Resveratrol, grape seed extract pills, have almost the same property: 370 mg of Vitis Vinifera extract (50 mg of Resveratrol), Dry Propolis Extract 70mg, Dry Grape Seed Extract 30mg, Vitamin E 18mg (9 IU) . Is that good, is what you consume similar?
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