KIDNEY OR LIVER DAMAGE
Oil extracted from Nigella sativa seeds may cause kidney or liver damage when used in high doses. These severe side effects of treatment were observed in rats given 2 grams per kilogram or more of Nigella sativa oil, according to MSKCC. Additional human research studies are necessary to further evaluate the effect Nigella sativa may have on the kidneys or liver; however, if you experience symptoms of kidney or liver damage, such as back or abdominal pain, urination changes, jaundice, fatigue or itchy skin, seek prompt care from your medical provider.
Hi @faaris, thanks for your input. This is good information for everyone. Just keep us posted for the next 3 months to verify.
Here’s my experience from having this dreadful condition for almost the past 30 years. There are many products I’ve tried that cause PATM to seize existence or diminishes to almost unrecognizable. However, it always comes back within days, weeks or a month so this is why we need to see the long term effect.
Please read the following. It looks like black seed has many beneficial properties. I think I'm going to try it.
Happy Wednesday and welcome !
Thanx for the great info and work of taking Black seeds in the whole form.
I look forward to ordering some from Amazon, to add to my daily choices.
I have taken Black Seed Oil capsules in the past however I was not consistent.
Continued best health and God Bless always !
Thanks for the information, just picked up some black seed capsules will be taking 2 twice a day to see if it helps.
Hello! And how it goes so far with the "nigella sativa"? This type of Link managed to eliminate PATM but in another way, maybe it will help if it does not work; http://www.medhelp.org/posts/People-Allergic-to-Me-PATM/am579-cured-from-allergies-PATM-in-2011/show/2970192
Thanks for the recommendation, faaris! I've been taking black seed oil capsules for a week, and it definitely seems to be working (reactions are much less frequent and less intense).
Do you any updates yourself?
Personal update: I've been taking this for almost 2 weeks now, and the reactions keep becoming less frequent and severe. I'm pretty sure this does work, and there is a lot of literature in many languages praising this (natural) medicine.
Thank you for sharing this magic tool. For me it works. Symptoms decreased noticeably.
I found something about "Black Seed Oil" that explains it's properties. It’s has some very very strong anti-bacterial and anti-fungal properties. The active ingredients are “Thymoquinone” and “Thymohydroquinone”.
It’s obvious that compounds causing PATM are generated by gut microbes and anything that lowers their numbers, will eventually lower PATM symptoms.
So whoever is using this product, their gut microbes will eventually develop resistance to this product, so don’t be upset if it starts to recede effectiveness over the weeks or months. Just make you understand why it happens.
However, like all other antimicrobials, I think it has some probability of wiping out the pathogenic strains responsible for PATM. How much I don’t know but it may have a better chance on new PATMers. Let’s say sufferers with just weeks or months of PATM. People like me or Ray that have had it for decades, chances are bacterial strains in our gut are highly resistant to almost anything.
We haven’t found an antimicrobial product/drug that last forever. It may mean, the microbial strain is just hard to kill, let’s keep on hoping this is the case.
Or Ray2502 was right, that it could be a faulty liver enzyme. Like TMAU for example, sufferers can take antibiotics to kill the TMA producing bacteria but as long as the FMO3 enzyme is faulty, it’s just a matter of time before the TMA gut strains are able to resist the drug and grow back in numbers again, then produce loads of TMA again. I’m hoping this is not the case because if it is, we are doomed.
But if this is the case then lowering the bacteria strains and keeping a diet that contains less precursor compounds (comparable to choline for TMAU), i.e. vege diet, is the best PATMers can do.
Currently, I can’t help but wonder, since I’ve watched over the years interviews of Ellie James, who is a TMAU2 patient, meaning she produced TMA, but also explained symptoms that exactly matched our problem, PATM. This would imply she had both TMAU and PATM.
Her doctors, had her on massive antibiotics cycles of the most potent antibiotics on the market. This was to remove any possibility that it was caused by a gut strain but she didn’t get cured. The doctors concluded that somehow earlier antibiotics cycles had screwed her liver enzyme. I really hope this is not the case.
Bump, the truth is being drowned out by nonsense! This stuff works.
No one denies it working - this thread had been pushed back to page 2 was my point. If we have a working cure, I'd rather spread word of the cure versus researching what is causing the condurion
The one I ordered is the ground black seed. Is that the right one?
could i know the symptoms that black seed cured ?
I just want to share with everyone who is currently smell like **** or known as PATM (People Allergy To Me) I know some have suffered almost entire of their life.
It make people stress since no treatment can cure.. those PATMers spent thousands of money to buy suppliment or probiotic on the belief that it can cure. yes it do but they did not treat the root of the problem. thats why it works for some people and not to the other.
If you suffer fecal body odor or people cough at you, rub their nose or sneeze .. rest assured that it is not you mind or some electromagnetic thing.
Now read.carefully what i'm going to tell you.
PATM is reality. It is caused by AMMNONIA usually through your sweat or from your skin.
AMMONIA can irritate nose, throat amd make people cough. That's why people make that kind of reaction immidiately at your presence.
So you may ask me how hell they can smell me at say 4-5 meter away?
Of course they can. Have you ever smell someone who wears strong perfume? sometimes you can smell his/her perfumes meters away. That's the same thing happen your body odor. The smell of ammonia on you skin can be detected a few meter away.
How to treat?
I read that the reason your sweat/skim emit AMMONIA is due to your diet.
Just google how to eat and what to eat correctly to eliminate the production of AMMONIA by your body.
Cause of Ammonia
1. Dehydration. due to not taking much plaiiiater.
2. Problem with bowel movement. too much or to longer your feces in your stomach will force ammonia released through your skin or sweat
3. You consume too much protein or acid amino. If your body process protein as energy it will release ammonia.
What I did to treat my PATM were
1. I took more plain water to keep hydrated
2. I decrease protein intake but increase carbo
amazingly in two days, no more reaction from people
..and dont forget your underarms.. sometimes they are the main culprit. believe me. Your nose wont detect the smell.. so wont your family because all of you are familiar with the odor for a lomg time. However, you underarm would smell sour to other peoples nose
you detox from heavy metals etc that cause this electrosensibility problem