We don't know a whole lot yet, but preliminary research by Dr. Yoshika Sekine seems to suggest that PATM involves the release of some kind of gas from the skin, breath, and bodily fluids. TMAU also involves the release of a gas (trimethylamine) from the body, so its mechanism of action is similar to PATM, but PATM might be a different kind of gas (perhaps an odorless gas, but nonetheless offensive).
Both PATM and TMAU can likely be caused by intestinal issues. Research by Dr. Irene Gabashvili suggests that PATM might be related to increased intestinal permeability (i.e., leaky gut), so various digestive by-products might be infiltrating the bloodstream and escaping on our breath, sweat, urine, etc. The acquired, non-genetic form of TMAU is also sometimes caused by intestinal issues such as gut dysbiosis, as well as kidney or liver damage. The genetic form of TMAU implies that the liver cannot adequately oxidize trimethylamine because of a deficiency in the FMO3 enzyme pathway.
It seems likely that PATM and TMAU both belong to a class of systemic body odor disorders, in which our metabolism produces atypical gases or atypical amounts of normal gases (like trimethylamine). PATM might just be a different kind of gas from TMAU.
I forgot to write. The endocrinologist has corrected the dietician to read group patm and to close up the list that I can eat and what is not present. And has told or said should drink kefir. What do you think about this? I'm already tired of avoiding people. I think they think that I dirty some time I do not smell good
How long is pathetic patm? Prior to this, the issue was raised in the Russian site. But people do not understand that take it off. This site patm me sent a boy from Russia said that he healed the patm and advised me. Here on the 3.4 page people write that got rid of. My doctor wrote me a medicine based on this, since she herself does not know about patm either. http://www.medhelp.org/posts/People-Allergic-to-Me-PATM/am579-cured-from-allergies-PATM-in-2011/show/2970192
. methanomasilii probiotic of the luminyensis cocus yes so far we can not find. still does not find she said any probiotic that contains methanomasilii probiotic of the luminyensis cocus. Antidepressant, I think necessarily. I noticed that when I worry, the smell worsens. Hope how patm affects people. Umenja wipe constantly a nose a throat. But do not cough.
Welcome to the world of unanswered questions :)
I've been a victim to both TMAU and PATM for over 30 years now. Thanks for sharing about the "methanomasilii probiotic" which i never heard of till now. Will look into it.
Since you say people dont cough or sneeze around you, perhaps its just the tmau smell which is more inclined towards bromhidrosis. I had temporary relief after anticholinergics which stops the sweat glands in the body. Does your smell pass through glass and car windows?
hi yuliya, I am glad you are in Turkey. i live in turkey too. i had the same things as you experienced.
Read my post " EVENTUALLY MY PATM GONE !!! READ THIS. "
there i explained how i got rid of it. for making it easy for you. i think first just buy resveratrol and grape seed extract pills. take these one in the morning one at night. you can ask me in turkish if it is better for you. i want you all get rid of this sickness. my heart is with you all.
This was my post:
Hello, i registered this website only to write this and help others who are suffering from PATM.
A little bit about me. i suffer from Patm for more than 2 years. i was graduated from my university as top student, i was social and my life was beautiful till i started to make people have extreme cough, sneeze and such terrible disturbance. believe me it was so bad that i stopped going out, traveling by metro and buses were total nightmare as you can guess. I noticed i had 100% relief. (i wanna knock the wood, i hope it continues)
What i did was a combination of many i guess. First of all long time ago i stopped eating sugar, chocolates many other things. still i continue this diet for fear but to be honest even i dont eat anything i had extreme PATM.
what i do daily. it may seem too much but it is actually a few pills and the prize is precious as you can guess.
1. thing in the morning before breakfast i take one capsule Psyllium Husks Fibre. one Grapeseed Extract cap. and one Resveratrol capsule.
2. I have very light breakfast and after that i take 2 or 3 Betaine HCL with pepsin.
(and one COenzyme but i dont know if it helps too because before others i was taking only coenzyme and probiotics it was helpful but not that much!!!)
3. WHENEVER I eat something heavy (not when i eat something very light- not after a snack) I immediately take one digestive enzyme pill, and 2-3 Betaine HCL pepsin pills.
4. At night, before having dinner i again take the pills i take in the morning, one Psyllium Husks Fibre. one Grapeseed Extract pill and one Resveratrol pill.
by the way since i have sinusitis all my life, i put one drop to each nostril something herbal, a kind of oil (i dont know the ingredients to be honest) i bought from herbal store.
it is a bit money consuming but hell worth as you all know :)) I am extremely happy now and of course i am afraid that it may come back again one day. so far incredible feeling, like i am reborn :)))
I wish all of you out there will get rid of this sickness and go back to your lives again. Try it and please spread it, post your experience too so that people like us can benefit too.
Hello im from Germany and My english is so bad can we Talk in turkish have you a E-Mail for me