WHAT WORKED FOR ME

[Dj_Choppa]

1. Oxy-powder pills
2. Brown rice powder
3. Perfect desiccated liver pills

Not sure if the liver pills are necessary, it worked for another, so i tried it along w the other 2 things daily, and i was fine after a couple months.

ALSO, i completley changed my diet.  I ate vegetables, organic chicken, brown rice w a little lime.  I stayed away from sugar and all other junk.  Not much of a selection, but i prepared the food in different ways, baked, over the skillet, and used seasonings.  Rosemary is my fav.  No pork or beef till you get better.  No nuts or fruits.  U can have very little here n there, but take it easy sir.  

ALSO, WORKOUT WORKOUT WORKOUT.  Sweat out all the crap thats in u and get ur body healthy again.  I did all this and i got my normal life back.  

My symptoms recently came back because i got comfortable and stopped living the healthy lifestyle.  So now i will prove to u guys again that this can be managed.  I didnt cure it, but i would say 90% of symptoms and reactions from others was gone.

I did a stomach, liver and colon cleanser in the very beginning, but if u dont do that, i would say working out, no sugar, drinking lots of water and eatimg healthy will do the trick. I myself will not cleanse again, at least not this time, unless im dont get results after a couple months. 1 last thing, no drinking liquor or beer.  Expecially beer.  Once u start to see reactions and symptoms lessen, and u are as healthy as u wanna be, clear liquor did not effect me in a negative way.  I got this idea from another patm sufferer, and it worked for me to.

I think thats everything, please feel free to ask me any questions on this forum or by message.  

[jxy]

I've recently diagnosed myself with PATM after several weeks of observation. This disease, whatever it is, is horrible. It doesn't just inconvenience us but everyone around us. I'm at my lowest atm. I never had this before and the symptoms began when I moved to another city to work. I'm just 21 yo. I really don't know what to do or who to approach here. I asked some close friend and confirmed they can't smell anything. They won't even believe me that I make people rub their noses or eyes and they start getting runny noses. Coughing is very rare.

Sad to say I don't have access to those products as I am from PH. I'm gonna start restricting my diet and start exercising more often, tho. Hope I find something here to fix this.

But it's bittersweet finding out other people having this. At least now I know I'm not alone and I'm not just imagining this up but at the same time it feels awful there are more suffering because of this. But this post made me hopeful and all the previous threads. I've been back reading and read the successes of other members.

I hope we all get cured. To the OP thanks for the tips and motivation!

[patmhalp]

Welcome to the club!  What is fascinating is I got this when I moved to another city and started a new job as well.  Perhaps we had it before than but started noticing it because of new environment, but I don't believe that is the case.

[jxy]

If moving to another city had ab effect, it might have been from all the stress and heavy workload. There was still a few months before the nose scratching and sniffing began. How are you guys handling it? Just earlier I was with around 10 people and they all began to scratch their noses when I arrived. It was hell.

[Dj_Choppa]

I brainstormed and posted this on my short break, there are plenty of in between details i left out.  If interested about those details, or if u have any questions about my experience w patm, just ask.  I would say ive had it for about 2 yrs now.  Nonstop research in the beginning, and lots of emotions, but im here for yall.

[Dj_Choppa]

Morty, my response to u is below on patmhalps response, srry!!

[PATMisruiningmylife]

My symptoms started after quitting smoking pot...I smoked since 16. After I quit. I got itchy skin and these symptoms of making others itch, mostly on their nose began..Hmmm. Just a thought.

[ocvq]

The symptoms that the PATMer feels are the same as those that feel those affected by our condition, generally; a stuffy nose, stinging, tiredness, sudden sleep ...... My stomach cracks and it's as if I was very hungry, as well as I have a nose covered sometimes, sometimes my head itches, but I do not lose anything, I do not get sick at all I have not been sick with the flu for a long time, my skin is completely fine, in fact when my knee accident opened a large wound opening and everything disappeared in a short time, besides it does not leave many scars, I tell this detail that some here say that the PATM is caused by Candida or similar, therefore my defenses would have to be weakened and we would be sick of any disease as well as our skin would be infected, but in me nothing is noticed, I am with PATM 3 years, Well, at least I knew I had PATM in those years, I do not know if it was in my ... ...

[isuffertoo]

It gets worse
I noticed same then years into this - many - rashes start chest area upper back  if u eat anything slightly off , like a new protein bar with only 2g sugar -- something in it would make me rash bad --- it's a constant battle for me

[ocvq]

I do not think it gets worse, in fact there are people who had and have PAMT for more or less 20 years and have no health problems other than the PATM. The problems of the skin should be very isolated, consult your doctor since it would not be linked to the PATM, at least I see it that way because as I said; I have PATM and I do not have skin problems, in fact my skin is finite and my friends tell me that I am less years old than I am. When I did not have PATM I used to get sick of everything, sometimes I used to have skin fungus in seasons and I used a medicine like talc, but since I had PATM I do not get sick at all, it's very rare. If PATM would worsen many already would be on the verge of dying due to the deterioration of the health in general, but there is no such mention, until now I did not read any writing that relates the death by the PATM, what if I read is that some committed suicide because Nobody understood their problem. I repeat, I am completely healthy, I only have PATM, I do not get sick of anything, I do not have anything on my skin, apart, when I have a big injury in my skin it heals and disappears very quickly, something that did not happen to me before .......... Before stating something try to ensure information, because many here read and think it is so, if they have skin problems turn to the doctor and if they can not find a solution there if you can claim that it is a symptom or is part of the PATM ... ..Luckily my PATM decreased compared to before.

[Helpsavemykids]

you do.not think it's odd that you don't get cold or flus anymore?   I do not post anymore because I believe everyone here is so far off from what's going on.   the patm I have is frequency related.   sure I have some of the same symptoms in up close and enclosed rooms, but it was out in away from everyone that I finally started to see this for what it really is.  diet will not fix this issue.  just my opinion.

[PATMisruiningmylife]

Im going to an allergist next monday. I just don't have hope anymore. Ive read so much about people going to doctors with no avail. Diets, supplements. Nothing works. Im losing my mind. I rather have cancer.

[Helpsavemykids]

Justin,  how did it go when you quit smokIng trees?    I live here on a farm and I quit gardening for 8 months now and have quit smoking for 10 days at a time. It didn’t help me at all.  I still was getting the same unreal reactions from far and near.  I finally made a believe of my brother after driving around parking lots with the windows up and counted the neck scratches.  The throat grabbing etc.   He said wow you have them superpowers. Haha. Well I wish I didn’t.

[grateful2011]

Justincase25

I use unscented for sensitive skin -  Dove - BAR soap - not the liquid - very important difference !!!!

You should also do epsom salt baths


What are you doing with your food choices ?

[Justincase_25]

Hello again grateful2011!

I will definitely be picking up some Dove unscented bar soap soon.  I have been doing Epson salt baths as well as bentonite clay baths.  That really didn't do anything for me....and that was months ago.  I was true to my diet at that time as well so I am not sure.

I have taken everything you all have suggested....thus the reason why I believe I need to stop smoking pot.

My diet has been horrible (holidays) LOL !  I still don't eat sugar or fruit, but I will eat bad at holiday dinners that I have to attend since my family is persistent and crazy about me.  

I am on my strict diet as of two days ago...I am not smoking pot.  I want to see if that is the cause of my symptoms to not improve.

[Justincase_25]

I can't find my forum so I'll post on yours LOL!   Huge question.... What kind of soaps/shampoos are you all using??!   HELP LOL!   I am using Dial antibacterial soap,  but idk if that is completely organic.   I do skin brushing with coconut oil too and that helps with my eczema.   What y'all using!?!

[Justincase_25]

You know,  I'm really wondering uf smoking has to do with it.   I am a frequent pot user.... Only medical grade LOL so I'm always messed up.   When I smoke more,  I get more reactions.   I did read up on-line somewhere that pot can increase your Candida albicans and I freaked out a bit.   YES, I'm STILL battling this... Which comes to my hypothesis. It has go be pot and alcohol the definitely made if come back.  Yeah,  I see you slipped on your diet as well.   However, everytime I go out and have a few tequila shots,  I'm sick as heck for weeks.   Literally,  I'm sick now because I went out last week and drank a little bit of Patron .  I say you're right.   It could be a combination as to why your patm came back.   It ***** for me because mine never went away for a bit.... But,  now I understand that pot has alot to do with it.   I work-out CRAZY at gold's gym in Orlando and,  it ***** seeing all these beautiful people look at me the way they do.   Especially in the sauna... It just rips my spirit,  but I try to ignore them 95 percent of the time.   I just want to be better before Ultra Music Festival guys.... Ugh.  

I've got my serious face on.... It's time to win this battle!

[Helpsavemykids]

In my opinion. The smoking trees is not the cause of it.  Nor is the cigarettes.  They just make it worse.    I believe that this “thing” is carried out on the smoke somehow.   Smoke smells 10x worse on me with the patm.  But so does everything else.   Deodorant,cologne,etc.  The patm is was way worse when using anything with a fragrance.   I’m working on quitting cigarettes all the way again.  I did for a while but it didn’t help my patm any, so of course I just gave up in frustration one day and started back.  But it does make it worse.    

[Lostmyhope]

Does this help the burning in the stomach do your guys hands get cold? And do you guys get hot and sweaty??

[hopeful12345]

Really happy for you, DJ!!  Keep up the good work!

[hopeful12345]

BTW, you might want to consider adding an antifungal to your regimen if you haven't already.  It will help kill the candida in your system.  I recommend Candida Cleanse from Purely Holistic, the best one I used.

[Dj_Choppa]

Hey hopeful, i know u have very good info.  All ur research and information is my patm bible.  I saw u post info on another guys post who was talking about how he has to be around large groups of ppl at work and is having a really hard time w patm.  Everything u said is what i have found to be true in my own research.

Yes, u are correct, and i actually do have a few other supplemts i take, including candida cleanse pills.  Ill list EVERYTHING i was taking and am taking again, so ppl can see if my strategy works for them.

[withdrawnupnorth]

So oxy pills n brown rice protein is somethinv we have to take for life. Mine came ak after I took antibotics for my stomache n ulcer infection. Currently taking sacc. Boulard, core mineral vitimins vita antioxidants from Usana.
The health pack is better than thses 2 pills but very expensive. Everything is going away again..not as fast as using the candigone, sacv. Boulard n brown rice protein but its working.

[grateful2011]

Congratulations, Excellent !
keep up the good work for LIFE !


I'm now checking out Bone Broth as suggested by RAY2502

I ordered bone broth protein powder with Turmeric by ancient nutrition

[hopeful12345]

Great, DJ!

[bymon]

Which flavor Brown rice powder are you using? I bought the Jarrow Formulas Brown Rice Protein Vanilla, but it does not taste that great with water...I've used it once or twice, but the taste is ahhh....

[Dj_Choppa]

Lol, the chocolate flavor is what I used and am using again now.  It worked the forst time so im sticking to that flavor.  Yes, i definitely understand it's not the best taste in the world, but the results, to me, are worth it. I put 2 big tablespoons in a bottle water or anything else equivalent to that size.  1 serving a day.  Im used to the taste now so it doesn't bother me like it did at first.  If it's that bad just chug it and dont breath lol.

[bymon]

Haha, true. I'll do that, I just wish if I can be cured 100% and not have to worry about any reactions and eat whatever like everyone else. -___-

[Dj_Choppa]

Bymon i was able to get to a point where i stopped worrying about being around people or going places cuz the reactions from ppl almost completely went away.  I just completely forgot about the whole patm thing.  Before i got better it was pretty bad.  Almost everybody would have crazy allergic reactions around me.  My normal life was back.  So its definitely possible, u just gotta stay committed and focused.  It took me about 2 months to get to that point.

[Morty123]

Hey dude, it's great to hear about people achieving success. I too have gotten about 90% better at my peak with very similar methods. One question: Are you/have you been a smoker? I am not a heavy smoker of tobacco but did a little every day during my patm just about... Also: smoking pot...i smoke easily a gram a day, but i have switched to 90% of my thc through my tabletop vapourizer. Any thoughts on tobacco/pot? (obviously tobacco and probably pot are ridiculously bad, but in your experience!)

[patmhalp]

Thanks DJ I just ordered some brown rice powder and oxy powder pills.  I've been doing desiccated liver pills one a day and using liquid chlorophyll daily and it seems to be helping.  I tried to change my diet initially and didn't find it helpful this was for 1 month so I went back to eating and drinking what i want.

[Dj_Choppa]

Wutup Morty, when i first discovered patm, i was doin everything wrong.  Smokin black n milds (tobacco), and also dro to be exact.  Also, eating very unhealthy foods, including eating late at night and drinkin LOTS of vodka.  So i changed everything and i got better.  

Currently, as i mentioned before, my patm came back.  Ive been eating unhealthy again, and drinking a lot of vodka. No tobacco at all, but i have been smoking a lot of dro daily.  

So i cant point out what contributed the most to the return of my patm, but i feel like all that i mentioned played a part.  I want to give myself the best chance to get better, so ive recently gone back to eating all healthy foods, and no smoking or drinking.  Once im where i wanna be, ill keep my healthy diet this time, but ill start smoking and drinkin again.  When i was healthy, i was drinkin vodka for a good while and i was still fine.  Ill keep an eye this time on smoming and see if that effects me in a negative way.  Process of elimination.

[Dj_Choppa]

Morty, i accidentally put my response to u under patmhalp, the other person who commented on ny post.  Please look below.

[Dj_Choppa]

Patmhalp, yea i did numerous techniques all at oncen so i cant say what helped specifically.  Im gonna eat healthy again just because that was part of my previous successful plan.  It took a good while of eating unhealthy food and drinking and smoking before it came back, so i would assume once healthy, it wouldnt hurt to splurge here n there.  Everyones body is different, so maybe my techniques wont work as good for everybody.