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Circumcision?
Alexander Zadiel is almost here and we still haven't decided whether or not to have the circumcision. Any opinions on this? Have any of you decided on one for your babies or previous ones? Just wondering if its bad whether we do it or not.
i cant believe this is even a question to be completely honest. it is a useless operation that should only ever be done for medical reasons. i say absolutely do no do it.
hi this is a very interesting post, Its amazing to me how one persons opinion can differ so much to another's which makes us all uniquely different. I personally feel that its a mother and fathers personal choice. I don't think either decision is wrong, and everyone has a right to their own opinion, i on the other hand was raised having brothers who are circumcised and my husband is and we have a fantastic sex life, and the first time i saw an uncircumcised person it was very strange to me just like it may be strange for others to see someone who is. So i think we shouldn't judge each other and just let it be! Life goes on and baby boys are healthy either way!!!
Your aggressive post really doesn't warrant a response, it is so sad that some people only get angry when presented with another passionate opinion that differs to their own. Regardless, what happened to freedom of speech??
.......I am a parent, but I do not OWN my children. I do not have the right to cut and chop parts off their anatomy because I think it 'may' be cleaner, or look 'neater', or because of family/cultural tradition. This subject is not about which school preference for our children, which childhood books we shall read to them, it is about whether we are prepared to take a piece of our sons away forever, just because it is OUR preference to do so. Any child advocate would agree that circumcision i s nothing short of child abuse - it is child abuse (in my opinion). Also, it is a practice which comes with risks. There have been boys who have had to be 'gender reassigned' due to the incompetence of the doctor performing the circumcision, and their lives have been ruined forever. I am not so high handed to think I have the right to do this to my newborn son.
Good Luck to anyone who is trying to make this very important decision. Please think about your little boys, and remember why it is you would actually be doing such an extreme thing. My son is a happy, clean, gorgeous little boy, and he is the way God created him. God did not create foreskins for boys just for parents to have it cut away at birth. Please think about this. It is there for a reason!!! I'm sorry if I have offended anyone, but what is a forum for if topics cannot be debated? And this is a very important topic!
.......I am a parent, but I do not OWN my children. I do not have the right to cut and chop parts off their anatomy because I think it 'may' be cleaner, or look 'neater', or because of family/cultural tradition. This subject is not about which school preference for our children, which childhood books we shall read to them, it is about whether we are prepared to take a piece of our sons away forever, just because it is OUR preference to do so. Any child advocate would agree that circumcision i s nothing short of child abuse - it is child abuse (in my opinion). Also, it is a practice which comes with risks. There have been boys who have had to be 'gender reassigned' due to the incompetence of the doctor performing the circumcision, and their lives have been ruined forever. I am not so high handed to think I have the right to do this to my newborn son.
Good Luck to anyone who is trying to make this very important decision. Please think about your little boys, and remember why it is you would actually be doing such an extreme thing. My son is a happy, clean, gorgeous little boy, and he is the way God created him. God did not create foreskins for boys just for parents to have it cut away at birth. Please think about this. It is there for a reason!!! I'm sorry if I have offended anyone, but what is a forum for if topics cannot be debated? And this is a very important topic!
You were better off just leaving this thread die.
You have your opinion but again don't come in here preaching what is right or wrong..
Give your opinion, but don't trash those who have their own different then yours.
What BS that circumcised men have less pleasure. Lol.
Considering you are in a country that "people don't get circumcised" how the hell are you to compare the sensitivity of a mans penis? You cannot. For one you are FEMALE. You are just judging this on personal judgement.
My man is circumcised and by all means he does NOT have a lack of sensitivity.
Don't throw out facts you have no clue about. It's so ignorant. You have no grounds to prove such a thing.
Who cares if we are in 2010 or all the people YOU KNOW don't do it. This thread is about someone asking why you would chose to do it or not. It's not here to preach to people about what they should do.
Comparing cutting female genetaila dies NOT compare, nor is this procedure proven unsafe or disfigurement. What's next you going to say that African tribes are in the wrong to disfigure their bodies with holes and piercings?? It's no freaking different!
There is A LOT of thins in this age "year 2010" that have gone back ages that are ridiculous practices but people still do them. I am not going to go tell those people that the decisions they make in life are wrong based on my opinion. So people like you gotta quit telling people what is better for them. Just because it is for you, doesn't mean it's good for others nor does it make you RIGHT.
You have your opinion but again don't come in here preaching what is right or wrong..
Give your opinion, but don't trash those who have their own different then yours.
What BS that circumcised men have less pleasure. Lol.
Considering you are in a country that "people don't get circumcised" how the hell are you to compare the sensitivity of a mans penis? You cannot. For one you are FEMALE. You are just judging this on personal judgement.
My man is circumcised and by all means he does NOT have a lack of sensitivity.
Don't throw out facts you have no clue about. It's so ignorant. You have no grounds to prove such a thing.
Who cares if we are in 2010 or all the people YOU KNOW don't do it. This thread is about someone asking why you would chose to do it or not. It's not here to preach to people about what they should do.
Comparing cutting female genetaila dies NOT compare, nor is this procedure proven unsafe or disfigurement. What's next you going to say that African tribes are in the wrong to disfigure their bodies with holes and piercings?? It's no freaking different!
There is A LOT of thins in this age "year 2010" that have gone back ages that are ridiculous practices but people still do them. I am not going to go tell those people that the decisions they make in life are wrong based on my opinion. So people like you gotta quit telling people what is better for them. Just because it is for you, doesn't mean it's good for others nor does it make you RIGHT.
I cannot believe this is actually being debated!!!! We are in the year 2010, not back in the dark ages!!!!! My brother was circumcised, but that was back in the 60's!!! Nobody I know of in my country gets their sons circumcised!!!!! It is NEVER mentioned by obstetricians here, NEVER given as an option!!!! I never even thought about getting my little boy circumcised, and I didn't even realise that many parents still thought about having their little boys disfigured. It is no different to having the genitals of your daughter cut. It is a myth about it being much cleaner, unless people (and parents) have problems with personal hygiene. All you need to do is make sure while they are little, the foreskin is moved back and washed and dried well. And to drum in personal hygiene as they grow up, as you would do any child. From experience with past boyfriends, all I can say is that those circumcised wished they hadn't been. I believe the sexual pleasure of a man is somewhat lessened when he has been circumcised. My husband was never circumcised, and I never had a problem with that - I actually think a circumcised man looks maimed and ugly. .....Please ladies, think of your futures sons, and don't have this mutilation carried out upon them. I honestly cannot believe it is still actually happening in so called civilized countries! Think of your sons!!! PLEASE!!!! IT IS THE WAY A MAN IS SUPPOSED TO BE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think you should do it....not for health reasons - this is no longer an issue because we are a well developed society and do not have the risks we once did years ago.....I just think it's good for the child......mentally and physically - some guys are very self conscious about it and you never know if your boy will be one of those men.....
well i think it is much cleaner and lot less infections uncircumcised carry bacteria u be crazy not to do it personal choice
Well one of the reasons I am for it is because I have had many UTI's pre-pregnancy. It started when I got sexually active and I always seem to get them 3-4 days after sex. It got to the point that I needed to take a pill after sex to prevent one. I am a special case being they were so frequent (3-4 a year).
However those males who are circumcised I never seem to have an issue with.
After a few boyfriends I realized that those uncircumcised may have carried the bacteria easier under the foreskin. I just don't find it very surprising that I seem fine with circumcised men.
At first I thought with my ex that he had dirty hands and that he was putting bacteria in me with them. But I would get him to wash his hands before we fooled around and i still would get a UTI regardless.
Of course we can say that any man not cleaning as often as they should can cause bacteria to be passed. Of course you can teach your child to clean the underneath well. However many men do not clean their penis's until their shower which is most times once a day. Leaves a lot of room to carry bacteria around.
Anyways i'm NOT using this as a general fact for EVERY MAN, it is just experience I have had for me. Which is one of the reasons I prefer to circumcise. Out of my experience, this is a re-enforcing factor with me. Even when taught to clean well, I feel uncircumsied penis's can carry bacteria easier. People can disprove this all they like, but I believe what i've seen and been through.
I think there is a lot of good debates and reasons on either side, and in the end it is a personal preference and this is the choice I would make for MY BABY. Others can do whatever they please for whatever reasons they believe in.
However those males who are circumcised I never seem to have an issue with.
After a few boyfriends I realized that those uncircumcised may have carried the bacteria easier under the foreskin. I just don't find it very surprising that I seem fine with circumcised men.
At first I thought with my ex that he had dirty hands and that he was putting bacteria in me with them. But I would get him to wash his hands before we fooled around and i still would get a UTI regardless.
Of course we can say that any man not cleaning as often as they should can cause bacteria to be passed. Of course you can teach your child to clean the underneath well. However many men do not clean their penis's until their shower which is most times once a day. Leaves a lot of room to carry bacteria around.
Anyways i'm NOT using this as a general fact for EVERY MAN, it is just experience I have had for me. Which is one of the reasons I prefer to circumcise. Out of my experience, this is a re-enforcing factor with me. Even when taught to clean well, I feel uncircumsied penis's can carry bacteria easier. People can disprove this all they like, but I believe what i've seen and been through.
I think there is a lot of good debates and reasons on either side, and in the end it is a personal preference and this is the choice I would make for MY BABY. Others can do whatever they please for whatever reasons they believe in.
Sorry, I just had to add this in...it's sort of in keeping with Ashlens comments. I too am a first time mom, and you know, so much of this is trial and error. We just need to keep in mind that the one thing we all have in common is how much we love our children. I have taken some flack on some of the decisions I have made for my son, even though DH and I felt they were in his best interest. I just wish we could support each other a bit more and tear each other apart a bit less. Sorry, don't mean to lecture, it's just one of the things I have found extra difficult in learning how to be a good mother.
Whether you choose circumcision or not, there is always that case where something went wrong. Most of the time it doesn't, but every now and then.
I can give you the opposite side of thing. My SIL opted not to have my nephews circumcised. My older nephew developed infection after infection, and eventually at the age of 5 had to be. Now, is that the norm? Of course not, it's rare. However, had he been circumcised it wouldn't have happened. His story is one of the things that gave us pause in deciding not to circumcise our son. My point is, you can always find something, know what I mean?
I do have to say this...regardless of what Ivy and her partner decide, it is clearly going to be a well thought out decision. Those are always the best ones. We should always think through every decision regarding our children, so whether you choose to or not to, it's already clear your a great mom!!
I can give you the opposite side of thing. My SIL opted not to have my nephews circumcised. My older nephew developed infection after infection, and eventually at the age of 5 had to be. Now, is that the norm? Of course not, it's rare. However, had he been circumcised it wouldn't have happened. His story is one of the things that gave us pause in deciding not to circumcise our son. My point is, you can always find something, know what I mean?
I do have to say this...regardless of what Ivy and her partner decide, it is clearly going to be a well thought out decision. Those are always the best ones. We should always think through every decision regarding our children, so whether you choose to or not to, it's already clear your a great mom!!
The thing is....the rest of us feel just as passionately about it. and trying to insult another person's beliefs is NOT the way to change minds. my husband made the choice for our son. does he remember it? no. does he feel like his choices were violated? no, not at all. I have a friend who was uncircumcised and I remember him being in tears one night after a girl refused to sleep with him upon seeing his uncircumcised penis, and he said he wanted the surgery SO bad but he was terrified of having it now that he's old enough. HE was angery at HIS parents for NOT doing it.
So it's just a matter of how YOU feel about what your son would want. Mostly because once they get older, the choice is taken away because the surgery is SO much harder to recover from as an adult. I think this choice should be up to our husbands, personally not as at all as women. Would we want men choosing if we had some sort of female-altering surgery? NO...we wouldn't. so I think the husbands/fathers should be able to choose...but that's just me.
But my whole point was....it's great that you feel passionate about it. so does everyone else. there's no reason to be rude on EITHER side of this argument....we have to support each other as mothers and remember that we're not going to agree with each other's parenting choices....but that doesn't make any of the choices WRONG. Just remember and respect that DIFFERENT is not necessarily WRONG :).
So it's just a matter of how YOU feel about what your son would want. Mostly because once they get older, the choice is taken away because the surgery is SO much harder to recover from as an adult. I think this choice should be up to our husbands, personally not as at all as women. Would we want men choosing if we had some sort of female-altering surgery? NO...we wouldn't. so I think the husbands/fathers should be able to choose...but that's just me.
But my whole point was....it's great that you feel passionate about it. so does everyone else. there's no reason to be rude on EITHER side of this argument....we have to support each other as mothers and remember that we're not going to agree with each other's parenting choices....but that doesn't make any of the choices WRONG. Just remember and respect that DIFFERENT is not necessarily WRONG :).
I think the point a few of us are trying to make is that the questions ivy_kween88 asked are not what you're answering. Giving someone statistics is fine, but IMO every post you've made seems like you're trying to convince her not to do it. It's her and her other half's decision, not yours. And being that this is a post asking opinions, not what she should do...I think that's where it should end.
It is sad that the little boy died, but like Waitingforgoodnews said...you shouldn't be posting that the cause of death is a circumcision, you aren't an ME as far as I know, and to my knowledge...you didn't perform the autopsy, if there was one.
On that note, people die everyday from various surgerys/simple procedures. Giving birth vaginally can kill a woman, a c-section can kill a woman, having a tooth infection can kill you...there are risks with everything you do, every choice you make has a pro and con. Some have smaller risks than others, but the point is you make the decisions based off how you feel and what you think is best.
The decisions we make as parents are what we think are best for our children. NO ONE can tell us otherwise. It may be one's opinion that something was wrong, or unjustified, but that is there opinion. We as parents have a right to raise our children and make decisions as we see fit...if this were not an option, babies would be taken from parents at birth to be raised by trained, qualified professionals, everyone would be raised the EXACT same, and no one would ever have to lift a finger when it comes to rearing their child.
It is sad that the little boy died, but like Waitingforgoodnews said...you shouldn't be posting that the cause of death is a circumcision, you aren't an ME as far as I know, and to my knowledge...you didn't perform the autopsy, if there was one.
On that note, people die everyday from various surgerys/simple procedures. Giving birth vaginally can kill a woman, a c-section can kill a woman, having a tooth infection can kill you...there are risks with everything you do, every choice you make has a pro and con. Some have smaller risks than others, but the point is you make the decisions based off how you feel and what you think is best.
The decisions we make as parents are what we think are best for our children. NO ONE can tell us otherwise. It may be one's opinion that something was wrong, or unjustified, but that is there opinion. We as parents have a right to raise our children and make decisions as we see fit...if this were not an option, babies would be taken from parents at birth to be raised by trained, qualified professionals, everyone would be raised the EXACT same, and no one would ever have to lift a finger when it comes to rearing their child.
What a debate!!
I feel badly for anyone having a boy and reading all of these posts then trying to decide what is best for them and their child.
I am glad this baby is a girl!! Even when I had my son, I never thought to dig/resarch as much as some people have on this subject- and as of now, I am glad I didnt. It was a choice for his father and I and we made a good choice. He is fine and completly healthy.
Good luck to anyone making this decision and either way you choose is a good choice for YOU!!! =D
I feel badly for anyone having a boy and reading all of these posts then trying to decide what is best for them and their child.
I am glad this baby is a girl!! Even when I had my son, I never thought to dig/resarch as much as some people have on this subject- and as of now, I am glad I didnt. It was a choice for his father and I and we made a good choice. He is fine and completly healthy.
Good luck to anyone making this decision and either way you choose is a good choice for YOU!!! =D
Funny you ask that...in light of this discussion, I asked my husband the same thing, and whether he felt he had any physical or emotional issues or ramifications as a result of being circumcised. No to both....
Ant just for clarification...if 117 die per year, how is that 1 in 100? 1.7% would mean that there are only 5,850 males born annually. Since there are over 4 million babies born (give or take) in the US alone, approximately half of those being male, I think your statistic is a bit miscalculated.
The www.cdc.gov (Center for Disease Control) has a lot of good information to review .
Ant just for clarification...if 117 die per year, how is that 1 in 100? 1.7% would mean that there are only 5,850 males born annually. Since there are over 4 million babies born (give or take) in the US alone, approximately half of those being male, I think your statistic is a bit miscalculated.
The www.cdc.gov (Center for Disease Control) has a lot of good information to review .
I am curious to those against circumcisions... Is your husband circumcised? If yes is he upset with his parents that they circumcised him?
Its not 'one in billions'. Its more like 1 in 100. 1.7% of male neonatal deaths are attributed to circumcision and its complications.
Approximately 117 baby boys 28 days or younger die every year in the US because of circumcision but not every circumcision death is categorized as such and lists the complication (hemorrhage, shock, heart failure, sepsis, ect) as the cause of death instead. Its severely under-reported because no one wants to admit so many deaths are preventable.
In comparison "about 44 neonatal boys die each year from suffocation, and 8 from auto accidents. About 115 neonatal boys die annually from SIDS..."
My Sources:
http://www.icgi.org/2010/04/infant-circumcision-causes-100-deaths-each-year-in-us/
http://www.mensstudies.com/content/b64n267w47m333x0/?p=b7d787cba1ec4b77b97fc250b62fb37a&pi=5
Approximately 117 baby boys 28 days or younger die every year in the US because of circumcision but not every circumcision death is categorized as such and lists the complication (hemorrhage, shock, heart failure, sepsis, ect) as the cause of death instead. Its severely under-reported because no one wants to admit so many deaths are preventable.
In comparison "about 44 neonatal boys die each year from suffocation, and 8 from auto accidents. About 115 neonatal boys die annually from SIDS..."
My Sources:
http://www.icgi.org/2010/04/infant-circumcision-causes-100-deaths-each-year-in-us/
http://www.mensstudies.com/content/b64n267w47m333x0/?p=b7d787cba1ec4b77b97fc250b62fb37a&pi=5
That baby already had a heat defect. How do you know the circumcison even played part in the death? Maybe it was going to happen regardless.
Besides, that is 1 case out of billions.
My mother in law hates epidurals because a friend of hers was paralized for 6 months afterwards. However people get epidurals all the time with no problems. She says all was normal, but the dr could have messed up or she could have moved, etc. Does not mean I will not get one because of that one person who had a bad one.
I have not read your article, so I can't really see the details on what happened. It is a terrbile thing for that poor family. However there was circumstances that made the surgery risky, and i'm sure they were told the risks. If not that is a terrible hospital and she should sue them.
Regardless, you have your opinion and others have theirs. This isn't a debate on who is right or wrong. Try to have your opinion without being insulting to those who may be opposed. We are here to help each other not to argue about things.
Good luck Ivy. If my baby was a boy I would have it done. My DH is circumcised and thinks it is better for him. That is our personal choice. My brother is also circumcised and never had a problem. He did not cry at all.
Good luck with whatever you do!
Besides, that is 1 case out of billions.
My mother in law hates epidurals because a friend of hers was paralized for 6 months afterwards. However people get epidurals all the time with no problems. She says all was normal, but the dr could have messed up or she could have moved, etc. Does not mean I will not get one because of that one person who had a bad one.
I have not read your article, so I can't really see the details on what happened. It is a terrbile thing for that poor family. However there was circumstances that made the surgery risky, and i'm sure they were told the risks. If not that is a terrible hospital and she should sue them.
Regardless, you have your opinion and others have theirs. This isn't a debate on who is right or wrong. Try to have your opinion without being insulting to those who may be opposed. We are here to help each other not to argue about things.
Good luck Ivy. If my baby was a boy I would have it done. My DH is circumcised and thinks it is better for him. That is our personal choice. My brother is also circumcised and never had a problem. He did not cry at all.
Good luck with whatever you do!
That is a terribly story for any family...I am sorry for their loss.
Having said that, I don't think that you can assume that the circumcision is what caused the baby to pass given he had a heart defect. Unless there is a medical expert opinion stating that was the cause of death and that the baby would have survived otherwise, I am not sure arguing a point without MEDICAL fact, based on someone else's loss, is very kind.
Having said that, I don't think that you can assume that the circumcision is what caused the baby to pass given he had a heart defect. Unless there is a medical expert opinion stating that was the cause of death and that the baby would have survived otherwise, I am not sure arguing a point without MEDICAL fact, based on someone else's loss, is very kind.
It is something that is extremely important to me. I didn't even come to medhelp for a few days because I was stressing out so badly but realized I can't just ignore it.
Today a entry blog was posted on facebook about a mother whose son was born with a heart defect. He was born August 16th and died this morning because his doctor thought it would be better to do his circumcision before he got too big. He bled a bit more than they had anticipated and even after blood transfusions his little body couldn't take it. I'm not going to post the link because there are some extremely nasty comments but its hard not to be passionate when faced with the reality that in the next few days a mother is going to be burying her newborn son because an elective surgery killed him.
Today a entry blog was posted on facebook about a mother whose son was born with a heart defect. He was born August 16th and died this morning because his doctor thought it would be better to do his circumcision before he got too big. He bled a bit more than they had anticipated and even after blood transfusions his little body couldn't take it. I'm not going to post the link because there are some extremely nasty comments but its hard not to be passionate when faced with the reality that in the next few days a mother is going to be burying her newborn son because an elective surgery killed him.
this isn't my board either but I think that there may just be a simple miscommunication here....
you say things very passionately, WifeOfAnt, and I don't think you intended to hurt feelings or be insulting...but it's very easy upon re-evaulation to see why it was so hurtful....it's like that "sex vs. gender" post that you were trying to be informative but everyone thought was so offensive...I'm fairly sure you didn't mean to hurt feelings, but you were so passionate and assertive that it was very insulting at face value....but once you read between the lines it wasn't so bad, you know what I mean?
So I think that if you weren't intending to hurt feelings (and I dont believe you were) that you just came off as being rude because of how strongly you feel about it...
but like another lady said....respect for other moms is VITAL as a mom, if you expect respect in return. regardless of how you feel of other people's parenting choices. it's very important to state your opinion WITHOUT insulting another person's opinion....that way we can all share knowledge and experience and receive the support that we all need from each other.
so I think...big misunderstanding...try not to let it stay with you, chalk it up to hormones and passion..and move on :).
you say things very passionately, WifeOfAnt, and I don't think you intended to hurt feelings or be insulting...but it's very easy upon re-evaulation to see why it was so hurtful....it's like that "sex vs. gender" post that you were trying to be informative but everyone thought was so offensive...I'm fairly sure you didn't mean to hurt feelings, but you were so passionate and assertive that it was very insulting at face value....but once you read between the lines it wasn't so bad, you know what I mean?
So I think that if you weren't intending to hurt feelings (and I dont believe you were) that you just came off as being rude because of how strongly you feel about it...
but like another lady said....respect for other moms is VITAL as a mom, if you expect respect in return. regardless of how you feel of other people's parenting choices. it's very important to state your opinion WITHOUT insulting another person's opinion....that way we can all share knowledge and experience and receive the support that we all need from each other.
so I think...big misunderstanding...try not to let it stay with you, chalk it up to hormones and passion..and move on :).
Well i definitely wasn't looking to start any kind of "debate" here . . just looking for different opinions on the parents who did & didn't or the ones that will be having a boy and what they think of it, but didn't think it was going to get into "religious belifes" and what not!
Everyone has different opinions and i do understand that! What i know is that we as parents decide what we think is best for our child and what we think will be more convinient for them throughout their future and i dont think it makes us bad parents either way (:
Thanks for all your responses . . i appreciate them! I get to see my Alexander next tuesday and can't wait to see if i can get some 4D pictures to post on here for you all to see!
Take care and have a safe pregnancy everyone!
Everyone has different opinions and i do understand that! What i know is that we as parents decide what we think is best for our child and what we think will be more convinient for them throughout their future and i dont think it makes us bad parents either way (:
Thanks for all your responses . . i appreciate them! I get to see my Alexander next tuesday and can't wait to see if i can get some 4D pictures to post on here for you all to see!
Take care and have a safe pregnancy everyone!
I'm not a member of this forum, but have been through this debate myself (my son is 8 months old) and I hope no one minds if I chime in a bit here.
I spent a lot of time agonizing as to whether or not to circumsize our son. We personally chose not to after reading all the pro's and con's involved. It was a highly personal decision, and one we felt was right for US.
The thing is this...this is still a legal and commonly performed procedure. I am sure there is some pain involved, but it's over quickly and if done as an infant, there is no memory of it. People choose it for many reason...religous and other.
There are many that feel pregnancy termination should be illegal. Yet it is legal, so it's one of those things we can choose not to do ourselves, but don't have the right to tell others not to. Know what I mean? As long as circumsision is a legal procedure and performed in hospitals, it must be left to the parents to decide. There are valid arguments for and against, and it's one of those things that can bring out much emotion in people.
Again, we opted not to, but I am glad it was our decision and not anyone elses.
Sorry to butt in, I know not my forum. But every know and then you come across an argument that you have to put your two cents in.
Good luck on your decision! I know it's a tough one, it took us awhile as well.
I spent a lot of time agonizing as to whether or not to circumsize our son. We personally chose not to after reading all the pro's and con's involved. It was a highly personal decision, and one we felt was right for US.
The thing is this...this is still a legal and commonly performed procedure. I am sure there is some pain involved, but it's over quickly and if done as an infant, there is no memory of it. People choose it for many reason...religous and other.
There are many that feel pregnancy termination should be illegal. Yet it is legal, so it's one of those things we can choose not to do ourselves, but don't have the right to tell others not to. Know what I mean? As long as circumsision is a legal procedure and performed in hospitals, it must be left to the parents to decide. There are valid arguments for and against, and it's one of those things that can bring out much emotion in people.
Again, we opted not to, but I am glad it was our decision and not anyone elses.
Sorry to butt in, I know not my forum. But every know and then you come across an argument that you have to put your two cents in.
Good luck on your decision! I know it's a tough one, it took us awhile as well.
I am staying out of the debate but I will share our decision about our first son and our soon to be here son.
DH and I could not agree with what to do as far as our first son was concerned. DH is circumcised as that is just what his family does. My family is all women so I had nothing to compare to. I was against the idea simply because if we had a little girl we would not be altering her body in any way (no ear piercing or the like). DH gave the reason that it should be done as he himself is circ'd. I found that to be a very illogical argument. We did a ton of research and asked our ped what he thought.
Only after one of our male friends told us that he is not circ'd and loved that his mother decided against it were we convinced to not get our son cut. We have never had a problem with it and due to that our second son will be left intact as well.
It is a personal choice that can only be made after research, talking to people, discussing between the parents and sometimes...a coin toss. It is a tough call to make as both sides have what can be considered valid reasons. We both feel happy and secure in the choice we have made for our sons and that is what matters.
DH and I could not agree with what to do as far as our first son was concerned. DH is circumcised as that is just what his family does. My family is all women so I had nothing to compare to. I was against the idea simply because if we had a little girl we would not be altering her body in any way (no ear piercing or the like). DH gave the reason that it should be done as he himself is circ'd. I found that to be a very illogical argument. We did a ton of research and asked our ped what he thought.
Only after one of our male friends told us that he is not circ'd and loved that his mother decided against it were we convinced to not get our son cut. We have never had a problem with it and due to that our second son will be left intact as well.
It is a personal choice that can only be made after research, talking to people, discussing between the parents and sometimes...a coin toss. It is a tough call to make as both sides have what can be considered valid reasons. We both feel happy and secure in the choice we have made for our sons and that is what matters.
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