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If NOT WIlson's then WHAT?
My Dr. said my eyes had a slight look of K-F Rings, and has since ordered various blood tests, and 3 seperate urine test- 2 of them were 24 hour tests, she also has had me go in for an abdominal Cat Scan and 2 Ultrasounds...eveyrthing came back " in normal range" I am now wondering what else it could be if it isnt Wilsons. She has NOT odered a biopsy of my liver, I did a bit of research on Wilsons and I understand that is the most definitive way to determine. I am just going to post everything I can think of here to see if anyone could come up with possible things to check for.
I ahve always had low blood pressure
Am normally tired and weak
Have had every mental health diagnosis in the last 15 years, from PTSD to Multiple Personality
I have had a spasm inmy left should- that only happens when I am trying to sleep ( this has been for years)
In the last 6 months I have developed a spasm in my neck- again most ly when trying to sleep- it went from a mild- yes-no- motion to now a more extrewme yes-no- and side to side motion.
Stomach problems, had Colonoscopy- Upper and Lower GI series- both came back " normal"
Ovarian cysts- over last 20 years- both sides, ruptured many times
nevr had surgery
nevr did drugs
social drinker but not in last 15 years
had bad interaction when I took Nyquil- endede up in ER due to full body spasms- evidently the meds I am on for mental health issue inter acted bad.
Medicines I am on- Gabapentin for anxiety- Paxil for depression and recently ( as in last month) a medicine for possible IBS
excess hair loss, for many years, not bald but I lose about a handful every day when I brush my hair
ANY information would be soo greatly appreciatted, I am really at a loss as to what is wrong with me.
I ahve always had low blood pressure
Am normally tired and weak
Have had every mental health diagnosis in the last 15 years, from PTSD to Multiple Personality
I have had a spasm inmy left should- that only happens when I am trying to sleep ( this has been for years)
In the last 6 months I have developed a spasm in my neck- again most ly when trying to sleep- it went from a mild- yes-no- motion to now a more extrewme yes-no- and side to side motion.
Stomach problems, had Colonoscopy- Upper and Lower GI series- both came back " normal"
Ovarian cysts- over last 20 years- both sides, ruptured many times
nevr had surgery
nevr did drugs
social drinker but not in last 15 years
had bad interaction when I took Nyquil- endede up in ER due to full body spasms- evidently the meds I am on for mental health issue inter acted bad.
Medicines I am on- Gabapentin for anxiety- Paxil for depression and recently ( as in last month) a medicine for possible IBS
excess hair loss, for many years, not bald but I lose about a handful every day when I brush my hair
ANY information would be soo greatly appreciatted, I am really at a loss as to what is wrong with me.
Hello Again
I am having my doubts about my doctors diagnosis...about Wilsons. Although she has decided it could not be this, I wanted to let you know of a symptom I didn't think to mention but NOW do since it is becoming worse. I went from having what I thought was a simple spasm in my left shoulder ( my thought was due to my repetitive job) but it has advanced to both shoulders, neck, and abdomen..I went for a sleep study because the doctor wanted to view this,it went from being the right shoulder just "bouncing" up as I was going to sleep, then to my head just doing a quick yes movement- it is now- my head moving in all directions- with alot of force- both shoulders and if I try to hold my head still, my abdomen spasms, the doctor is calling it sleep onset tremors...which is only a symptom NOT a diagnosis...any thoughts? Also, I wanted to add that I grind my teeth in my sleep, and yell/talk in my sleep. Should I have my doctor checked for Huntingtons too? I ask because that too covers some of my symptoms.
I am having my doubts about my doctors diagnosis...about Wilsons. Although she has decided it could not be this, I wanted to let you know of a symptom I didn't think to mention but NOW do since it is becoming worse. I went from having what I thought was a simple spasm in my left shoulder ( my thought was due to my repetitive job) but it has advanced to both shoulders, neck, and abdomen..I went for a sleep study because the doctor wanted to view this,it went from being the right shoulder just "bouncing" up as I was going to sleep, then to my head just doing a quick yes movement- it is now- my head moving in all directions- with alot of force- both shoulders and if I try to hold my head still, my abdomen spasms, the doctor is calling it sleep onset tremors...which is only a symptom NOT a diagnosis...any thoughts? Also, I wanted to add that I grind my teeth in my sleep, and yell/talk in my sleep. Should I have my doctor checked for Huntingtons too? I ask because that too covers some of my symptoms.
Possibly 'Macroamylasemia' due to the amylase not excreted being bound to some proteins.This is not serious and might mean no need for therapy.But then it is only on exclusion and since you have no other features of pancreatitis or parotitis, my feeling is that you have this.Do check with your doc.
Best wishes.
Best wishes.
I wanted to let you know that my doctor has changed her diagnosis and no longer belives I have Wilsons', that to me was good news except now she has me going to a gastroenterologist (forgive my spelling) because my amylasye (?) levels are FOUR TIMES the normal, but she tells me that nothing showed up on ultrasound to warrant those findings, and yes the tests was run twice- with a different blood sample. With the symptoms I have listed above in a previous post- could you helpme to direct the dr as to what she should be looking for now? I am extremely worried.
I have another appointment with the doctor- I do believe to discuss a possible biopsy, and also the dr is sending me to a neurologist. Thank you for your help :)
thank you for the information- but of the causes of my hair loss- I know I am not pregnant-was tested for anemia and thyroid and all was fine there. I shall add the list of other possibilities to my list of test I would like the dr to run, thank you.
I am gong back to doctor at end of month. I believe to discuss the biopsy, the Dr is also sending me to the neurologist soon, to have MRI I think. I believe when she ordered the ultrasounds, she was also trying to see if my ovarian cysts were back- which they were. I made a list of everything I could think of that could be a symptom to help my doctor narrow down whats wrong..here it is.
Abdominal pains- both sides- near ovaries
memory loss
mental illness ( newest diagnosis is D.I.D)
teeth grinding
irregular sleep- sometimes I can go over 24 hours w/o sleep- then sometimes I can slep for over 12
shoulder spasm ( left shoulder only)
ringing in ears..pitch varies
pain after eatting icce cream
sudden urge for bowel movement no more than 15 minuites after eatting- doesnt matter the food
excessively gassy- but only in 1st hour or 2 or waking
constant fatigue
shortness of breath
stuttering- which I never did before
get unquenchable thirst for milk every few days
Now if this helps, I worked in a factory for 10+ years where I know I was exposed to various chemicals- it was a factory where we screen inkimages onto cosmetic containers- also made the containers-
I have put on about 30 pounds in the last 4 years, but dont know if that is because I am alot less active as I hardly leave my house due to anxiety issues or if that is a symptom as well.....I use to have a huge appetie- like could eat 2 large Subway grinders and be hungry an hour laer, now- I barely ever get hungry.
Abdominal pains- both sides- near ovaries
memory loss
mental illness ( newest diagnosis is D.I.D)
teeth grinding
irregular sleep- sometimes I can go over 24 hours w/o sleep- then sometimes I can slep for over 12
shoulder spasm ( left shoulder only)
ringing in ears..pitch varies
pain after eatting icce cream
sudden urge for bowel movement no more than 15 minuites after eatting- doesnt matter the food
excessively gassy- but only in 1st hour or 2 or waking
constant fatigue
shortness of breath
stuttering- which I never did before
get unquenchable thirst for milk every few days
Now if this helps, I worked in a factory for 10+ years where I know I was exposed to various chemicals- it was a factory where we screen inkimages onto cosmetic containers- also made the containers-
I have put on about 30 pounds in the last 4 years, but dont know if that is because I am alot less active as I hardly leave my house due to anxiety issues or if that is a symptom as well.....I use to have a huge appetie- like could eat 2 large Subway grinders and be hungry an hour laer, now- I barely ever get hungry.
I think the KF ring like structure in your case were probably artefacts.There is scant information on such occurence and that probably explains why your doc decided against a biopsy.
The case below unlike yours had features of cirrhosis.Best wishes.
Ref:
Kayser-Fleischer-like Ring in a Cryptogenic Cirrhosis
Antoni Rimola, MB; Miguel Bruguera, MB; Joan Rodés, MD
Arch Intern Med. 1978;138(12):1857-1858
The case below unlike yours had features of cirrhosis.Best wishes.
Ref:
Kayser-Fleischer-like Ring in a Cryptogenic Cirrhosis
Antoni Rimola, MB; Miguel Bruguera, MB; Joan Rodés, MD
Arch Intern Med. 1978;138(12):1857-1858
Just to edit my answer: The major human endocrine glands include the hypothalamus, pituitary gland, thyroid gland, pancreas, adrenal glands, female ovaries and male testes, pineal gland.
Common causes of hair loss include pregnancy, thyroid disorders, and anaemia (which can be caused by iron, vitamin B12 or folate deficiency). Others include autoimmune diseases, polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS), and skin conditions such as psoriasis and seborrheic dermatitis.
***
Low blood pressure can be due to low blood volume, hormonal changes, widening of blood vessels, medicine side effects, anaemia, heart & endocrine problems. The major human endocrine glands include
the hypothalamus, pituitary gland, thyroid gland, pancreas, adrenal glands, pineal gland.
***
Iridology:
The Scurf Rim - the outer rim of the iris, where the iris color joins the white of the eyeball (sclera) corresponds in the body to the cutaneous surface, the skin. If the skin is normal, healthy and active, the rim of the iris shows no abnormal discolourations. If, however, the skin is weak, enervated, atonic, or in anaemic and atrophic condition, they appear in the rim of the iris the dark scurf ring.
Yellow in the iris indicates poor kidney function. Orange in the iris may indicate a problem metabolizing carbohydrates, high or low blood sugar, or liver and pancreatic weakness.
***
Of the approximately 40 million brain cells, most are influenced either directly or indirectly by serotonin. Serotonin, first isolated in 1933, is the neurotransmitter that has been identified in multiple psychiatric disorders including depression, obsessive compulsive disorder, anorexia, bulimia, body dysmorphic disorder, social anxiety, phobias, etc.
The following factors can cause low serotonin levels:
* Artificial sweeteners (aspartame)
* Caffeine
* Cigarette smoking
* Diabetes
* Hypoglycemia
* Insulin resistance
* Lack of sunlight/vitamin D deficiency
* Under methylation - folate, vitamin B6, vitamin B12 deficiency
* Iron, calcium, magnesium, zinc, B3, B6, folate & vitamin C deficiency
* Ecstasy, diet pills, and certain medications
* Chronic opioid, alcohol, amphetamine & marijuana use
* Hormone imbalances (thyroid, adrenal, estrogen)
* Progesterone deficiency
* Inflammation
* Infections
* Poor diet
* A lack of omega oils
* Lack of exercise
* Problems converting tryptophan to serotonin
* Problems with digestion (low stomach acid is common)
* Stress and anger
* High cortisol levels (stress hormone)
* PCB’s, pesticides and plastic chemicals exposure
* Glutathione deficiency
* Genetic serotonin receptor abnormalities
* Human growth hormone deficiency
* Impaired blood flow to brain
* Excessive use of antidepressants
***
Low blood pressure can be due to low blood volume, hormonal changes, widening of blood vessels, medicine side effects, anaemia, heart & endocrine problems. The major human endocrine glands include
the hypothalamus, pituitary gland, thyroid gland, pancreas, adrenal glands, pineal gland.
***
Iridology:
The Scurf Rim - the outer rim of the iris, where the iris color joins the white of the eyeball (sclera) corresponds in the body to the cutaneous surface, the skin. If the skin is normal, healthy and active, the rim of the iris shows no abnormal discolourations. If, however, the skin is weak, enervated, atonic, or in anaemic and atrophic condition, they appear in the rim of the iris the dark scurf ring.
Yellow in the iris indicates poor kidney function. Orange in the iris may indicate a problem metabolizing carbohydrates, high or low blood sugar, or liver and pancreatic weakness.
***
Of the approximately 40 million brain cells, most are influenced either directly or indirectly by serotonin. Serotonin, first isolated in 1933, is the neurotransmitter that has been identified in multiple psychiatric disorders including depression, obsessive compulsive disorder, anorexia, bulimia, body dysmorphic disorder, social anxiety, phobias, etc.
The following factors can cause low serotonin levels:
* Artificial sweeteners (aspartame)
* Caffeine
* Cigarette smoking
* Diabetes
* Hypoglycemia
* Insulin resistance
* Lack of sunlight/vitamin D deficiency
* Under methylation - folate, vitamin B6, vitamin B12 deficiency
* Iron, calcium, magnesium, zinc, B3, B6, folate & vitamin C deficiency
* Ecstasy, diet pills, and certain medications
* Chronic opioid, alcohol, amphetamine & marijuana use
* Hormone imbalances (thyroid, adrenal, estrogen)
* Progesterone deficiency
* Inflammation
* Infections
* Poor diet
* A lack of omega oils
* Lack of exercise
* Problems converting tryptophan to serotonin
* Problems with digestion (low stomach acid is common)
* Stress and anger
* High cortisol levels (stress hormone)
* PCB’s, pesticides and plastic chemicals exposure
* Glutathione deficiency
* Genetic serotonin receptor abnormalities
* Human growth hormone deficiency
* Impaired blood flow to brain
* Excessive use of antidepressants
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
Hi,
How are you? What other symptoms are present?Differentials to Wilson's Disease include liver issues (including hepatitis), arthritis as a manifestation of systemic disease,or hemochromatosis. The presence of Kayser-Fleischer rings and ceruloplasmin levels of less than 20 mg/dL together with neurologic signs or symptoms usually suggest a diagnosis of Wilson disease.In the absence of Kayser-Fleischer rings or neurologic abnormalities, a liver biopsy for quantitative copper determination is done to confirm the diagnosis. Imaging studies such as CT scan, magnetic resonance imaging (MRI), ultrasonography, and nuclear medicine studies usually leads to findings that are neither specific nor sensitive for Wilson disease. It is best that you have this checked by your doctor or be referred to a gastroenterologists with specialty training in hepatology for proper evaluation. Take care and do keep us posted.
How are you? What other symptoms are present?Differentials to Wilson's Disease include liver issues (including hepatitis), arthritis as a manifestation of systemic disease,or hemochromatosis. The presence of Kayser-Fleischer rings and ceruloplasmin levels of less than 20 mg/dL together with neurologic signs or symptoms usually suggest a diagnosis of Wilson disease.In the absence of Kayser-Fleischer rings or neurologic abnormalities, a liver biopsy for quantitative copper determination is done to confirm the diagnosis. Imaging studies such as CT scan, magnetic resonance imaging (MRI), ultrasonography, and nuclear medicine studies usually leads to findings that are neither specific nor sensitive for Wilson disease. It is best that you have this checked by your doctor or be referred to a gastroenterologists with specialty training in hepatology for proper evaluation. Take care and do keep us posted.
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