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Mucosal HPV from Skin Contact?

Almost every source discussing STD risks and use of condoms states that HPV 16 and HPV 18 transmission can occur even with consistent condom usage. How does that work, given that alphapapillomaviruses prefer to infect mucous membranes and not cutaneous surfaces? Is it that such studies do not account for oral/genital transmission?

Related question - if HPV 6/11 and other genital wart-causing HPV strains also primarily infect the mucosa, why is it that they can cause warts in the pubic area or
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If I may whey in my conservative non-modern judgmental opinion, if your girlfriend requested it, then the passion is gone the feelings are gone, I would end it and move on, time is precious to be wasted like that.If you suggested it make the grown man decision to end it and let her loose and not waste her time as she deserves to find herself a worthy partner.

Hi auntiejessy, hope you are well :).

Back on subject, speaking from personal experience, no amount of sex or no man or woman is worth to put yourself through an std experience, it is not pleasant, and is detrimental to both physical and psychological health.

Choose wisely....
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Hi klamidia - hope you are doing well. :)

There are people who are ethically non-monogamous, or polyamorous, and it doesn't mean that the passion or feelings are gone.

I'm definitely monogamous, so it's not for me to explain, but we don't judge here. :) As far as the STD experience, yeah, that's a tough one. It truly depends on the STD. I've had herpes for almost 20 years and my experience has been wildly different than yours with resistant chlamydia.

Just one of many things to consider when making the decision to open the relationship, of course.
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Even if you use condoms, they don't protect all skin from coming into contact with all your partner's skin, no matter what your sex is, and the sex of your partner.

If you have a penis, and your partners have vaginas, for example, even with a condom, there is still a possibility that some of your mucous membranes can come into contact with hers. Condoms shift, slip, come off. They don't offer 100% protection against HPV, though they do offer significant protection.

Oral sex can transmit HPV, but it's far less likely.

Have you been vaccinated for HPV?

It's considered an inevitability that most of us will get HPV at least once in our lifetimes. The vaccine can help with that, if you are eligible (under 45 in the US - other countries have different standards). Talk to your doctor about it.
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I recently started the hpv series after consultation with my doctor.

With respect to mucous membranes and condoms, though, what part of a penis’s mucous membranes would come into contact with female mucous membranes for an intact condom? I thought the male genital mucous membranes were the glans and the urethra
Related question - how long does it take Garda WoL to offer effective protection against the high risk HPV strains?
That should say “gardasil”. Darn autocorrect
If one of your partner's has actual warts, other parts of your skin can come into contact with that and get HPV. It's not as likely, but it's possible. Your anus is also a mucous membrane.

If your partners have vaginas, and have warts on their vulvas, for example, you could easily get them.

One dose of Gardasil offers about 90% protection - https://www.webmd.com/sexual-conditions/hpv-genital-warts/news/20191227/could-1-dose-of-hpv-vaccine-be-enough

You'll see that after about 2 weeks from the first dose - https://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-center/questions-answers-about-hpv-and-vaccine#:~:text=How%20long%20does%20it%20take%20for%20someone%20to%20be%20protected,to%20generate%20an%20immune%20response.

Condoms offer about 70% protection against HPV. I'm not sure if you have an STD phobia, for lack of a better word, a germ phobia, or just really dig into things, but do you have a risk you're concerned about? Is there something I can specifically address for you?

Thanks! It appears that mucosal HPV can infect keratinized cells.

The reason is for all the questions is that my partner and I have recently looked into nonmonogamy, but we are quite naive on STD risk. My STD education was mostly of the “scare kids” type and hers was nonexistent.
Ahhh got it. If you are opening your relationship, there will be inherent risks, but there are ways to reduce that risk.

Obviously, the vaccine is one, also using condoms every single time, and limiting the number of partners helps (not a judgement, but just logically, the more partners, the higher the risk). I don't know if you are looking to be a thruple, or each have another partner, or have multiple partners (and you don't need to tell me), but your considerations will be different for each option.

You'll need to consider herpes type 1 and 2 (read the Herpes Handbook for more on that - https://westoverheights.com/herpes/the-updated-herpes-handbook/)

Most everything else is curable or goes away with time, the big exception being HIV, of course.

A really great resource for STD info is https://www.ashasexualhealth.org/

Let me know if I can help in any other way. :)
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the question cut off at the end - that should say "or on the penile shaft"
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