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Quick onset syphilis, is it a thing?
Firstly thanks for the service, I acknowledge the need for a in person consultation and I will do that but unfortunately I am currently on holiday. And won’t be able to get free healthcare for a while, also been on holiday with my wife going to get healthcare abroad for this issue will surely cause suspicion.
So I’ll do my best to explain my predicament and hopefully you can do your best to help. But don’t feel responsible if you can’t.
So about a week ago, just before going on holiday I had a msm exposure the exposure was mutual masterbation we stroked each other’s penis. I think we swapped hands and I may have touched my self with the hand I touched him I’m not sure. I purposely kept my penis away from his as I have deep anxieties about STI been married I need to keep her safe.
He touched me with his hand briefly again not sure if he used this on himself or not but probably he did. He only really stroked the end and not for long. It was mainly me pleasuring the both of us.
So about 5 after exposure I noticed a spot on my penis base. Just maybe a CM up from the pubic area. It’s not really painful but tender in touch. I squeezed it thinking it was a spot and it did release some pus. It then got red and scabbed over today this morning in the shower cleaning the scab came off and it’s now a pink shallow mark. Still not painful. I am trying to keep my hands off this to avoid confusing matters.
I’m normally laid back but seen as this should be a relaxing holiday and every time I see this mark it’s a reminder and a worry.
Googling STI the closest this I can find that looks anything like is a syphilis sore. But as far as I can read onset at 5 days after doesn't happen? Is this true?
So I guess my questions.
1) what’s my risks
2) is this syphilis or does 5 day onset rule this out conclusively. I guess I’m asking has it ever been heard of that someone gets a sore before the quotes 10 days.
3) do I need to find medical care.
4) also does the sore show up at points of contact or just the near the point of contact. I’m not sure the part that spot is is a point of contact I’m not saying it’s not for definite but I like to masterbate at the end I don’t usually touch the whole penis. Would you imagine if I was going to get a sore it would most likely be on the end of my penis where it’s touched the most?
So I’ll do my best to explain my predicament and hopefully you can do your best to help. But don’t feel responsible if you can’t.
So about a week ago, just before going on holiday I had a msm exposure the exposure was mutual masterbation we stroked each other’s penis. I think we swapped hands and I may have touched my self with the hand I touched him I’m not sure. I purposely kept my penis away from his as I have deep anxieties about STI been married I need to keep her safe.
He touched me with his hand briefly again not sure if he used this on himself or not but probably he did. He only really stroked the end and not for long. It was mainly me pleasuring the both of us.
So about 5 after exposure I noticed a spot on my penis base. Just maybe a CM up from the pubic area. It’s not really painful but tender in touch. I squeezed it thinking it was a spot and it did release some pus. It then got red and scabbed over today this morning in the shower cleaning the scab came off and it’s now a pink shallow mark. Still not painful. I am trying to keep my hands off this to avoid confusing matters.
I’m normally laid back but seen as this should be a relaxing holiday and every time I see this mark it’s a reminder and a worry.
Googling STI the closest this I can find that looks anything like is a syphilis sore. But as far as I can read onset at 5 days after doesn't happen? Is this true?
So I guess my questions.
1) what’s my risks
2) is this syphilis or does 5 day onset rule this out conclusively. I guess I’m asking has it ever been heard of that someone gets a sore before the quotes 10 days.
3) do I need to find medical care.
4) also does the sore show up at points of contact or just the near the point of contact. I’m not sure the part that spot is is a point of contact I’m not saying it’s not for definite but I like to masterbate at the end I don’t usually touch the whole penis. Would you imagine if I was going to get a sore it would most likely be on the end of my penis where it’s touched the most?
I could have stopped reading after the first 2 paragraphs.
STIs can not be passed through mutual masturbation as in, touching each others penises. You can swap hands and juggle the testicles as well and it wont increase the risk. It just doesnt happen.
From this encounter you had no risk for anything.
1) what’s my risks
None.
2) is this syphilis or does 5 day onset rule this out conclusively. I guess I’m asking has it ever been heard of that someone gets a sore before the quotes 10 days.
Very unlikely but does not matter with this encounter.
3) do I need to find medical care.
For this encounter? No.
4) also does the sore show up at points of contact or just the near the point of contact. I’m not sure the part that spot is is a point of contact I’m not saying it’s not for definite but I like to masterbate at the end I don’t usually touch the whole penis. Would you imagine if I was going to get a sore it would most likely be on the end of my penis where it’s touched the most?
Syphllis sore would show up at the site of infection. The sore on the other person needs to rub the area where it goes into (your penis) to transmit.
STIs can not be passed through mutual masturbation as in, touching each others penises. You can swap hands and juggle the testicles as well and it wont increase the risk. It just doesnt happen.
From this encounter you had no risk for anything.
1) what’s my risks
None.
2) is this syphilis or does 5 day onset rule this out conclusively. I guess I’m asking has it ever been heard of that someone gets a sore before the quotes 10 days.
Very unlikely but does not matter with this encounter.
3) do I need to find medical care.
For this encounter? No.
4) also does the sore show up at points of contact or just the near the point of contact. I’m not sure the part that spot is is a point of contact I’m not saying it’s not for definite but I like to masterbate at the end I don’t usually touch the whole penis. Would you imagine if I was going to get a sore it would most likely be on the end of my penis where it’s touched the most?
Syphllis sore would show up at the site of infection. The sore on the other person needs to rub the area where it goes into (your penis) to transmit.
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Hey, can I first say thanks for the quick response.
And apologies because I hope this dosnt come across as rude but how can you be so sure.
Almost every website states that it can transmit via hand genital contact it’s acknowledged it’s rare but happens?
Can you categorically say no risk at all and how do you know?
Thanks in advance
And apologies because I hope this dosnt come across as rude but how can you be so sure.
Almost every website states that it can transmit via hand genital contact it’s acknowledged it’s rare but happens?
Can you categorically say no risk at all and how do you know?
Thanks in advance
Hey, I’ll let silly respond but just a quick comment. I agree hands don’t transfer STIs of any kind.
You can read anything online if you look hard enough stick to medical websites and even some of them are conservative.
The issue is I guess there is a theoretical risk of syphillis if you touched a sore and then immediately touched yourself and then rubbed all that bacteria in. But it’s never seen in even the busiest clinics.
In the medical world there is a saying “when you here hoofs, think horses, not zebras” as in there is thousand of other more obvious causes than syphilis.
You have jumped straight to something that’s impossible ignoring everything else.
You can read anything online if you look hard enough stick to medical websites and even some of them are conservative.
The issue is I guess there is a theoretical risk of syphillis if you touched a sore and then immediately touched yourself and then rubbed all that bacteria in. But it’s never seen in even the busiest clinics.
In the medical world there is a saying “when you here hoofs, think horses, not zebras” as in there is thousand of other more obvious causes than syphilis.
You have jumped straight to something that’s impossible ignoring everything else.
https://www.sexualhealthscotland.co.uk/the-clinic/stis/syphilis
https://smartsexresource.com/sites/default/files/Other-Sex-Table-v3.png
These are both medical sites that say it’s possible. I am reading what you are saying.
https://smartsexresource.com/sites/default/files/Other-Sex-Table-v3.png
These are both medical sites that say it’s possible. I am reading what you are saying.
Heya :)
As Dadz said its a theoretical thing. By that I mean like 1 in a 100,000,000,000 chance of happening. A good example of this is HIV via oral sex. Alot of websites say it happens and theoretically it could but it has NEVER happened from oral alone due to so many factors including saliva, enzymes and living conditions.
For syph to transmit the sore or ulcer needs to be physically rubbed in quite hard and vigorously into the skin. That is where the chancre appears. The reality of touching the sore then moving the hand between sites which puts the syph in contact with a unhospitable environment then back onto you and to "take hold" it just doesnt work like that.
Also the syph sore (chancre) is more than a pimple. Its a fairly obvious ulcer.
I really would not give this a second thought at all. Even if it was the flash from DC doing it with his speed I would not worry.
As Dadz said its a theoretical thing. By that I mean like 1 in a 100,000,000,000 chance of happening. A good example of this is HIV via oral sex. Alot of websites say it happens and theoretically it could but it has NEVER happened from oral alone due to so many factors including saliva, enzymes and living conditions.
For syph to transmit the sore or ulcer needs to be physically rubbed in quite hard and vigorously into the skin. That is where the chancre appears. The reality of touching the sore then moving the hand between sites which puts the syph in contact with a unhospitable environment then back onto you and to "take hold" it just doesnt work like that.
Also the syph sore (chancre) is more than a pimple. Its a fairly obvious ulcer.
I really would not give this a second thought at all. Even if it was the flash from DC doing it with his speed I would not worry.
In secondary syphilis, people might get a rash on their hands (and feet and torso). If they have that rash, they can transmit it by mutual masturbation.
Syphilis is uncommon in developed countries, and most people aren't giving handjobs with rashes on their hands.
Syphilis sores don't appear as soon as you got your sore - the earliest is 10 days, the most common is 3 weeks. A chancre is a painless, round, open, ulcerated sore. That's not what you describe.
The second site you linked puts syphilis in the "not commonly passed" column for a handjob. It also puts herpes there, which we know is not passed by hands.
Your other link is from Scotland. I don't know if that's where you live, but if it helps, in 2019, the latest year I could find stats for, 369 cases of syphilis were reported. https://hpspubsrepo.blob.core.windows.net/hps-website/nss/3075/documents/2_syphilis-in-scotland-2019.pdf
For comparison, 17,336 diagnoses of genital chlamydia were recorded, and 3776 cases of gonorrhea were reported. https://hpspubsrepo.blob.core.windows.net/hps-website/nss/3073/documents/2_genital-chlamydia-gonorrhoea-scotland-2010-2019.pdf
Really, I wouldn't worry.
Syphilis is uncommon in developed countries, and most people aren't giving handjobs with rashes on their hands.
Syphilis sores don't appear as soon as you got your sore - the earliest is 10 days, the most common is 3 weeks. A chancre is a painless, round, open, ulcerated sore. That's not what you describe.
The second site you linked puts syphilis in the "not commonly passed" column for a handjob. It also puts herpes there, which we know is not passed by hands.
Your other link is from Scotland. I don't know if that's where you live, but if it helps, in 2019, the latest year I could find stats for, 369 cases of syphilis were reported. https://hpspubsrepo.blob.core.windows.net/hps-website/nss/3075/documents/2_syphilis-in-scotland-2019.pdf
For comparison, 17,336 diagnoses of genital chlamydia were recorded, and 3776 cases of gonorrhea were reported. https://hpspubsrepo.blob.core.windows.net/hps-website/nss/3073/documents/2_genital-chlamydia-gonorrhoea-scotland-2010-2019.pdf
Really, I wouldn't worry.
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