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Clap and HSV

Burning sensation starts 7/17.  Culture taken on 7/19 and it is the clap.  I am given pills for 10 days.  I feel like **** - run down, eyes look like ****.  Extreme pain and a bit of blood for first 3 days.  Discharge stops after 5 days.  Infection doesn't seem to respond for 6 or 7 days, doc gives me 4 more pills.  After taking the 2nd meds on 7/26 I get extreme sweats at night for 3-4 days (fever?).  Urination pain stops during 3 days of fever.  Still sensitive, especially the tip.  Two 1mm spots show on former inner foreskin area on top of urethra right near frenulum on 7/28.  During this time skin around package is very sensitive.  Spots have a flake of skin over them that drops off with little touch.  No blister, no itching, but they look like a sore with no puss.  I freak.  Go to Dr. again on same day, inspect and say not herpes - no culture.  I schedule blood work and follow up clap test for 8/2.  Initial sores heal fast and leave slight scar.  Then 4 more of the same arrive in general area, a little farther up shaft on same side around 8/7 – same same learn I am pos blood test for HSV-2.  Around this time sensitive skin all around package goes normal.  No itching at first.  Then random twinging all along under side of penis around 8/9.  Twinging inside penis where I suspect clap infection was.  Twinging inside urethra feels like discharge, but there is none.  In addition, random shooting pain from inside urethra around clap infection point.  This goes on for a week.  Pain and twinging wake me up at night till around the 14th.. and here we are.   Felt twinging on throat about 2 weeks ago and so I look at throat and see what look like bumps..
- Can HSV blood test detect new antibodies so fast?  
- Could I have had clap and HSV2 at same time in urethra?  I have had a cold sore on inner lip before.  Maybe this was HSV2?
- Could there be something else causing sores?  Seems unlikely to me..
- Can you give a general 2nd opinion?
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I only had 2000 characters and I forgot that point while I was giving the play by play.  It's funny, I saw three doctors and they all said there was no way it was HSV with the chlamydia.  It seems logical to me based on the facts.  What a disaster.  If you need any research subjects I am happy to help.  What are some good bio engineering fields that deal with viruses?  I'm thinking about going back for a MS.
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Gonorrhea often causes severe pain in the urethra, and so does herpes--but chlamydia usually does not.  And you should have told me you tested negative for HSV-2 less than a year ago.  With this additional information, most likely you indeed acquired both HSV-2 and chlamdia simultaneously.
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Thank you for your help, Dr.
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This is how ignorant I am..  I thought clap was for chlamydia.. I had chlamydia.  I don't think it changes much.  The chlamydia was EXTREMELY painful.  There was no way I could just go - had to pinch off and start slow.  I suspect the initial HSV outbreak was inside with the chlamydia because of the delayed response to the meds - HSV needed more time to heal.  Then maybe the secondary outbreak were the spots - who knows.  I found out she has HSV1 and 2.  I was dumb - she had a discharge a while back and said she had it checked out and it was a fem problem.  Now it's my problem.

I was negative for HSV1 and 2 in October of last year.  What I thought was a cold sore had a second round of blisters after the initial "cold sore" outbreak.  Is that possible with a canker sore?

I am circumcised.  The 2nd round of spots I mentioned were pretty itchy.  Anyway, the bottom line is I have HSV2 and the ladies LOVE that.
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239123 tn?1267647614
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Your symptoms certainly are not typical for genital herpes, in particular without overt blisters or open sores.  Your description of the external penile sores sounds pretty nonspecific; and apparently your doctor didn't think they looked like herpes lesions. If herpes had occurred inside the urethra, you probably would have had even more pain than you describe; it tends to be an extremely painful condition.  "Twinging" and "random shooting pains" definitely aren't herpes.  To your questions:

1) Yes, antibodies to HSV-2 sometimes can appear within 2 weeks.  But usually it takes a month or more, most commonly 6+ weeks.

2) Yes, you could have had both gonorrhea and herpes simultaneously.  But putting together all the facts, it is more likely that you were infected sometime in the past with HSV-2.  But it probably is possible that you were recently infected with both.  "Cold sores" do not occur on the inner lip, only on the outside of the mouth.  Sores inside the lips or mouth usually are canker sores, an entirely different problem and not due to herpes.  In any case, HSV-2 is rarely a cause of oral herpes.

3) I cannot speculate on other causes.  But if you're not circumcised, maybe you have a yeast infection under the foreskin, which can cause red spots and can be triggered by antibiotics.

4) No online advice expert can make a definite diagnosis, so I don't have any formal second opinion.  But one way to sort this out would be to get in touch with the person you caught the gonorrhea from.  If s/he doesn't have HSV-2 (which could be checked out with a blood test), then you will know for sure that you caught only gonorrhea and that your herpes infection goes back to some other time.  Almost a quarter of the US population has HSV-2, mostly without symptoms--so it wouldn't be all that surprising in your case.

Good luck-- HHH, MD
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