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Moro Reflex during sleep with no stimulus

Hi,
We are trying to figure out what is going on currently with 10 wk old daughter. We took her to the Children's ER at 8 wks because we think she is having seizures or infantile spasms. Her spasms happen when falling asleep, during sleep, upon waking and randomly at other times while awake. She had a CT scan, blood work and a short EEG. We are going back in a few days for a follow up with another Neuro since they all came back fine and we received no diagnosis. When she is very tired and not swaddled (or sometimes even swaddled) she will have the moro reflex so often in succession sometimes for well over 30 minutes that she will continuously wake herself up and cry after each one. When she is swaddled, we still notice her jerk and wake herself that way too. But what is odd and scary to us is that once she actually falls asleep she will continue to have the moro reflex every 3-5 minutes the whole time she is asleep, with nothing making noise to startle her and she is completely still and asleep. Sometimes it will just be once, & other times it will be 2 or 3 in a row. And it is always 3-5 minutes apart.....then often upon waking she will have the same thing happen. She will be interacting and smiling at us then all of sudden have the reflex and then continue on, sometimes she will cry, but oftentimes she will continue kicking or whatever immediately after. This does NOT seem like the normal moro reflex and she is not a baby that startles that easily. We have a loud household with barking dogs that she can sleep right through. Looking back, she has been having "odd" spasms since we brought her home from the hospital after birth. We are very very concerned because many of her spasm are extremely similar to Infantile Spasms, but the EEG came back fine. We are hoping to get a longer EEG in a few days to put us a little more at ease. She was born full term with a rather easy vaginal birth, she did have meconium and had to have a tube inserted to bring her to. She did not have to go to the NICU. But our first night after she was born she went to the nursery for 2 hours and had another episode where she stopped breathing, with no need for oxygen or resuscitation. Also, during my first trimester, I was given Reglan in the ER for vomitting when I was around 10-11 wks pregnant. She has silent acid reflux, but the Dr's did not think it is Sandifer's Syndrome....we are at a loss. Is this normal???
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Electrical activity of seizures/epilepsy, muscle spasms, etc. can be caused by a magnesium deficiency.  Magnesium is essential for proper muscle and nerve function.

Magnesium has helped many conditions such as: epilepsy, restless leg syndrome, twitches, tics, aches, pains, tingling, etc.



"Epilepsy is marked by abnormally low magnesium levels in the blood, spinal fluid and brain, causing hyperexcitability in regions of the brain. There are many reported causes of epilepsy greatly improving or disappearing with magnesium supplementation. In a trial with 30 epileptics 450 mg of magnesium supplied daily successfully controlled seizures. Another study found that the lower the magnesium blood levels the more severe was the epilepsy. In most cases magnesium works best in combination with vitamin B6 and zinc. In sufficient concentrations, magnesium inhibits convulsions by limiting or slowing the spread of the electric discharge from an isolated group of brain cells to the rest of the brain. Animal studies show that even the initial burst of firing nerve cells that starts an epileptic attack can be suppressed with magnesium."

MAGNESIUM CHLORIDE for Health & Rejuvenation by Walter Last
http://www.health-science-spirit.com/magnesiumchloride.html


"Magnesium also helps regulate nerve cell function. It must be present in adequate amounts in the synaptic gap between nerve cells to control the rate of neuron firing. (3) When synaptic magnesium levels are too low, nerves fire too easily from even minor stimuli. For example, noises will sound excessively loud, lights will seem too bright, emotional reactions will be exaggerated, and the brain will be too stimulated to sleep. In extreme magnesium-synaptic deficiency, epilepsy--a sort of whole-brain shotgun-blast excessive neuronal firing--may result."
The Underappreciated Mineral of Life Part I
By James South M.A.


"Magnesium deficiency symptoms involving the peripheral nervous system include numbness, tingling, and other abnormal sensations, such as zips, zaps and vibratory sensations."

The Importance of Magnesium to Human Nutrition
Michael Schachter M.D., F.A.C.A.M.
(Online article)


FANTASTIC information below:


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2146789/pdf/canfamphys00077-0094.pdf

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Neurology/Muscle-Twitches-All-OVER/show/295459

"Magnesium: The Stress Reliever"  by Leo Galland M.D., F.A.C.N. (online article)

"The Importance of Magnesium to Human Nutrition" by Michael Schachter M.D., F.A.C.A.M (online article)


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Some of the safer and more effective forms of magnesium include: Taurate, Glycinate, and Citrate (latter can be laxitative, so take with food).

There is also an online article called: "How to Have a Magnesium (Mg) Rich Diet"
Also: http://familydoctor.org/online/famdocen/home/healthy/food/general-nutrition/914.printerview.html

Kelp is the richest source of Magnesium that I've seen thus far.



As for testing, the typical blood test for magnesium isn't very effective.  Only 1% of the body's magnesium is in the blood, while the other 99% is in the tissues.  And the body makes sure to keep the blood levels maintained, even at the expense of pulling out the stores of magnesium.  The typical magnesium test is actually an Intensive Therapy Unit test, in a small, tight range, meant to keep you alive.  That is according to Dr. MyHill.

The RBC magnesium test is said to be better, but it can still miss deficiencies.  The best are the loading or tolerance test, but this can be hard to get.

Basically, magnesium deficiency is very common these days, and the deficiency symptoms are very obvious when researched.  When a good formula of magnesium is taken, the effects are definitely noticed in deficient people.
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