Interesting post and story, thanks for sharing katrinika. I've found a bit of spirituality recently. I won't get into the whole story because it basically encompasses my whole life, but I will key in on a few key moments.
I was introduced to religion as a child. My mother went to a methodist church and I began going to Sunday school at an early age. My memories of Sunday school are less than "Godly". Horrible experience.... miserable. I basically asked the question "why" and was chided, ridiculed, and otherwise humiliated in front of about 15 kids and at least 10 adults. Nobody came to assist.... it was me against this miserable lady who basically didn't like kids.
Through my adolesence I had spurts of religious curiosity. I had a friend whose father was an episcopalian priest and on occasion I'd engage him in philosophical conversation about religion. I also had a catholic friend that I'd sometimes go to mid night mass with on Christmas, and once on Easter. I had a few friends that were Hebrew, and although I never went to temple with them, I did have a nice relationship with them, their parents and even their grandparents. (Probably at a time where I should have been paying more attention to God or spirituality, I was concentrating on sports, work, and a girlfriend)
Through my 20's and 30's I really didnt have any religious experience to speak of. My wife and I were married by a non-denominational minister (I think) who was very much involved with the Lord. I let him know that I myself was not that close to God, and he didn't believe that.
Into my 40's. I had been dealing with a major depression disorder for the majority of my life. I got myself into trouble (morally not legally) and was forced to address all of my demons, so to speak. I had to take accountability for some things that I'd do, and I had to address some things that I repressed to have a "normal" life with my wife and kids. (Normal it wasn't. Dysfunctional..... my depression disorder made me irrational. Although there was no physical abuse, there was some emotional abuse. Instead of accepting love, I exuded hatred. It was hatred towards myself, but I deflected to other people....)
As I began to address these issues and as I began to do some homework (reading) I began to find some things out that pertained to me. At the urging of my wife, I went and saw an "intuitive" who told me so many things about me that were so right on, that it was scary! Things she told me would come about later, did! She also told me that I was a very spiritual person and had a strong connection to the other side.
Since then and with a bunch of reading, I am searching ever harder. I've kind of labeled myself as an agnostic, and I guess it sticks today. I do believe but do not know in what I believe. I'll continue searching, and I am sure I will get closer to God.
I still remain scared of the religious 'fanatic". I've been introduced to a few through life and 50% of them have been certifiably insane... really.
The fact is, I think all religions are basically based on the same beliefs and I believe that through the years each religion has altered a bit to better fit their congregation. I( do not believe all that I read, nor do I believe all that I am told. For me, what's happened to me, is as close to a religious experience as I have ever seen.
I don't care if people knock me. When that happens, it is typically by someone who's blinded by their beliefs and since I may oppose I must be the spawn of satan.... to those I say, whatever... worry about yourself. I also believe that religion is nothing to be forced upon anyone. I feel as if one "finds" religion it becomes a truer experience.
Well, thanks for letting me post and I am willing to answer any questions or engage in any conversation regarding this issue or others.
Goodness, I wish I had your elan. Cool. I'm so wired anxious all the time. The depression meds just made things worse, and worse and worse as the side effects piled up and new meds were added.
I hope I'm able to be calm about things one day. Like you, I've taken to reading. And not just reading but, finally, to implementing the things that make sense. It's slow going, but at least I'm seeing progress.
How could you not get closer to God? He doesn't just know your heart today, He knows it all the way back to that Sunday school class and beyond. I feel better when I talk to God about Jesus, and maybe that's significant. I feel better when I talk to God, period!
And there's an enormous lot to be said for the Buddhist values of balance. I thought I was agnostic for a long time... I don't know if there's a word for it, but I find that I believe in all religions. When I don't understand something I find it usually means it's because I don't have all the facts. Let's see, that makes me a panostic!
I've been willing to be willing for a long time! :)
The only kind of fanatic I want to be now is the "eat raw foods, exercise, and talk to God" kind. It just doesn't fit in my view of the way things are made that there is no God, or that there is only one way to God.
Thanks for sharing.
What I am becoming fanatic about is my family, my friends, and myself. Through what's happened in my life lately, I have learned so so much.... about people in general, but more importantly me and the world around me.
I have a few friends that I have not been in contact with too much lately. These people are good folks, but they really aren't the people they portrayed them selves as for a long time. And you know what? That is ok. In a sense, I was not portraying myself in a true light for a while, so maybe this is reciprocal. (I figured it out, embraced it, addressed my problems and moved forward,,,, I can only hope that they can find this too.)
The people I am talking about are "good Catholics". One is a recruited Catholic, the other Catholic from birth. (I am not supposed to be judgemental....) But like most "religious" claiming folks, they don't practice what they preach. I get that.... I mean, I've seen it so many times from people claiming to be "religious". For some, and maybe it is these people because religion seems to be a matter of convenience for them, maybe they are religious because of fear..... if that's the case, I think they have religion all wrong.
Actually, I despise any religious figure that recruits with fear mongering. I believe that true religion has nothing to do with fear... to scare someone to your way of thinking is just that. They are intimidated and are probably more likely to "change teams" when scared away from your way of thinking.
You mentioned Buddhist beliefs and being panostic.... I have been reading alot in regards to Buddhist beliefs. From my understanding is, there is no fear.... there is acceptance. There are situations more acceptable than others, but we are supposed to look at things and accept them for what they are. We can only control ourselves, and we can only do that right now. We've got no control over the past and cannot control the future. "It is what it is" is a Buddhist saying. At first I didn't like it until I figured out what it meant. It basically means we need to acknowledge the past, embrace it, deal with it, learn from it, and move on.... so it is what it is. Since reading some Deepak Chopra, I get a kick out of trying to find the good in everything. This is something I never used to be able to do... everything was doom and gloom for me.... it's not that way anymore!
Hi, I found my belief in Christianity, through searching for answers, after having had a very painful childhood. I have read many different ideas, theories, peeked in on different religions, tried different crutches, astrology, peace love and harmony etc.
and then picked up the biblle.
I found that everything I needed was all in there.
I am trying to keep this brief, and to the point. I have picked up tidbits of wisdom here and there from various wise people.
But for me , I try to stick to Gods' word- first -in everything that I do. And my life has been going along okay. I have human problems to deal with just like anyone else.
But I have been blessed with miracles, from God, answered prayers, that were miracles.
He takes care of me, I exercise using my faith in Him. Have total respect for Him (the Trinity) I always pray about everything. I try to let myself go into Gods' hands, and do all he asks of me. I try to put Him first in all things. And I try not to get sidetracked away from the Bible teachings. Doesn't make me the most popular person always. but I don't push it onto anyone else, but if they ask me, I tell them that I believe in Jesus Christ, God , the Holy Spirit. And I try to live accordingly. I don't take part in things that God says not to.
I will say that He has never let me down, or steered me the wrong way ever. That is not saying that I myself have not made mistakes. I certainly have made many. And our Lord has used these things to teach me. He does love us so much with a perfect love.
We are all different, and have our different ways if thinking...I wish all of you the best.
I am living proof, that God loves us, and He provided a way to come to Him, through His Son Jesus. It's all for our good, to bring us to Him.
I don't want to argue with anyone okay...thanks. Just saying my piece, and hope someone may have needed to hear it. Peace...pitter
Thanks for sharing, pitter.
Thanks pitter, that's a nice story. Maybe my opinion will change on some religious text, but I have a hard time believing some of it. I think some people have embellished some of the stories, I think some have changed the context of some stories.... the human element has construed so much through time.
I guess it does rely upon blind faith. Maybe I'll get there, I don't know. I will say this, my journey towards religion has been a learning experience that I've truly enjoyed and I appreciate everyone's opinion. I take a bit away from every comment, so thank you all.