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1139187 tn?1355706647

1 month tt labs

Suck!,,,


Tsh. 12
T4 free .4.  Range 1.0 to 1.8
T3 free 3.0.  Range 2.3 to 4,8


Tsh and t4 free are scary!!!!

Thupp
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649848 tn?1534633700
COMMUNITY LEADER
You aren't supposed to be here; what happened to your vacation?  

You have to give the medication time......... AND you know that many people have to raise dosages several times before they get it right...

Looks like you need a bump in dosage, but take it slow and easy; you'll probably stay hypo for a bit, but if you go too fast with the dosage increase, you'll go hyper.
215461 tn?1331862765
I've been steadily increasing since August, and am more hypo now then at the beginning.  Imagine that!!!!  My tsh is now almost 18 and I have low calcium, I'm anemic, and low blood sugar.  UGH.  
535882 tn?1396576685
bump time!
1139187 tn?1355706647
ma barb, calvin and dannie,

hawaii is great but it has certainly been a struggle keeping up withe everyone.   I noticed my back has started to hurt the last couple days, and i havent felt these weird pains since all this stuff started a couple years ago.  Ive had a hard time sleeping so i thought i would get on here and look for answers :)

the doctor told me to bump again but they didnt really know how much as most of their patients arent on armour so they told me "feel it out".  I went from 105 mcg to 120 mcg.   So i bumped 1/4 grain from what i was on before.  I know its not enough, but im afraid to go any higher.  

Whoever said that going from supplementing (with a thyroid) to total replacement (without) is so right..   I cannot wait to suck down that next grain.  Im like a thyroid junkie...  I have dreams of being chased by little white pills with devil horns..  LOL
1139187 tn?1355706647
I screwed up.   I was on 2 and 1/4 grain and after was told to bump am now on 2.5 grains.

The tsh of 12 was on the 2 1/4 grains.   So now I'm taking 150 mcg.  Seems like a lot.
649848 tn?1534633700
COMMUNITY LEADER
Bruce....... 1 grain = 60 mg; 2.5 grains is 150 mg, not mcg, and each grain has 38 mcg T4 and 9 mcg T3, so you aren't getting a full 150 mcg of either. Your dose isn't so high as it seems.
1139187 tn?1355706647
Ok so it's not unusual to be on 3 grains if need be ?  Seems like a lot but I'll just keep holding.  I only bumped by 1/4 grain with tsh of 12 and ft4 of .4

This is a very expensive illness :)
535882 tn?1396576685
it depends on weight, absorption. 2.5 or 150 seem around right for your size,  im on 175 but you have to twerk it a little probable in the future to get it perfect. keep up the good work kevin
649848 tn?1534633700
COMMUNITY LEADER
3 grains NTH would be only 114 mcg T4 and 27 mcg T3........  that's still not such a high dose.

Kevin - you're on 175 what?
535882 tn?1396576685
175 NP thyroid   180 6 days a week 150 1 day a week
535882 tn?1396576685
isn't it 60 mgs a grain   ok broken up into t4 and t3 .. according to dosing charts by weight it about right, but its a huge range like 135 to 200   alot trial and error and retest and wait. Kevin
649848 tn?1534633700
COMMUNITY LEADER
Yes, NP is the same as others: 60 mg per grain.  But you're only getting 38 mcg of T4 and 9 mcg of T3 per grain ...... that's the actual medication.  It has to be converted to the same units (mcg is not the same as mg).  
535882 tn?1396576685
i think its a better blend.  smoother than synthetic,
649848 tn?1534633700
COMMUNITY LEADER
Could be "a better blend" for you; maybe the fillers/binders are different;  it all depends on what we tolerate best.  I do very well on Tirosint (synthetic T4 gelcap), supplementing with 7.5 mcg generic T3....
649848 tn?1534633700
COMMUNITY LEADER
Wouldn't it be nice if there was a "one size fits all"?  
1139187 tn?1355706647
why isn't there a Home testing kit for at least the TSH?  that way if there was a target range, we could know where we were that particular day?  I could ***** my finger ring now and see if I'm at 12.0 still or closer to my personal target of 2.0.  

Im back from my vacation..  Such a wonderful vacation it was..  

So heres the latest.  Ear ringing, nausea (like motion sickness), feeling like i just woke up from a nap prematurely (all the time).

Taking 2.5 grains.  

I wish i knew if synthetic was better for me.  But if i remember correctlly, i felt just as bad on that.   So who knows.
535882 tn?1396576685
oh yea. lots of trail and error to find what works best for yourself.   thats what matters!!
535882 tn?1396576685
synthetic made me feel like i was wired on meth. but it works for most.
1139187 tn?1355706647
I feel like a walking zombie.  But i feel better late at night.  I think its sort of weird still in theory that barely any docs do armour..
535882 tn?1396576685
your still hypo!
1139187 tn?1355706647
i went and saw my hormone lady today.  In fact, I sort of cheated and i saw my hormone lady and went and saw my old hormone lady because after this past week i wanted to know what the hell is going on.

They both wanted to see fresh labs so one lab was drawn (i lied and told hormone lady #2 that my general doc was doing this)

They both want me to take 10 MG hydrocortisone for the next 3-4 weeks in the morning (dosed 5/5)  to help with the nausea.

Both agree that adding t4 in pending the labs would be an okay choice.  One of them gave me levo, the other tirosint and levo.

One of them told me from the looks of things that 4-5 grains may be my final amount I'm going  to need.  She suggested that once i get steady i may want to consider switching to NP thyroid as 4-5 grains of erfa could get expensive.


So i should have my labs back tomorrow.   tsh, t4free and t3free.  
1139187 tn?1355706647
also my labs came back from the 13th.  should i be worried about this:

vitiman B6  63.1    levels  2.1 to 21.7
535882 tn?1396576685
wow that would be like 240-300 on natural thats a big dose!
535882 tn?1396576685
wow thats alot of b6!
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