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ANY BODY THAT SUFFER FROM THYROID PROBLEMS SHOULD TRY ARMOUR IT CHANGE MY LIFE AND I WANTED TO SHARE WITH ALL OF YOU OUT THERE
I WAS FEELING HORRIBLE FOR THE LAST 1.5 YEARS PANIC ATTACKS HEART PALPITATION WEAKNESS SEVERE DIZZINESS
WHENT TO ALL KIND OF DOCTORS AND SPEND LOST OF MONEY SAW 5 ENDOCRONOLOGIST AND NOTHING I WAS FEELING HORRIBLE AND ALL TEST CAME OUT FINE
AFTER READING INFO IN THE INTERNET I WENT TO MY LAST ENDO AND SUGGESTED TO HER ABOUT TRYING ARMOUR SHE SAID NO WAY I KEEP INSISTING AND FINNALY SHE AGREED TO A TRY
THAT CHANGE MY LIFE AFTER TAKING THE PILL FOR 8 DAYS I STATRTED TO FEEL MYSELF AGAIN AND MY HEALTH PROBLEMS STARTED TO DISSAPEAR AND NOW I AM BACK TO NORMAL AGAIN
DOCTOR SOMETIMES DONT LISTEN TO THE PATIENTS COMPLAINS THEY ONLY GO BY BLOOD WORK BUT THE PATIENT STILL HAVE MANY SIDE EFFECTS
I LIKE TO SHARE MY EXPERIENCE BECAUSE I DONT BELIEVE IN DOCTORS SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO TRY THING TO FEEL BETTER NO BODY KONWS YOUR BODY BETTER THAN YOU AND WHEN YOU TELL YOUR DOCTOR THAT THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG YOU ARE RIGHT YOU KNOW YOUR BODY
I JUST HOPE THIS WILL HELP OTHER PEOPLES FEEL BETTER IT DOES NO HURT TO TRY IT MY WORK FOR YOU
GOOD LUCK AND GOD BLESS YOU ALL
WHENT TO ALL KIND OF DOCTORS AND SPEND LOST OF MONEY SAW 5 ENDOCRONOLOGIST AND NOTHING I WAS FEELING HORRIBLE AND ALL TEST CAME OUT FINE
AFTER READING INFO IN THE INTERNET I WENT TO MY LAST ENDO AND SUGGESTED TO HER ABOUT TRYING ARMOUR SHE SAID NO WAY I KEEP INSISTING AND FINNALY SHE AGREED TO A TRY
THAT CHANGE MY LIFE AFTER TAKING THE PILL FOR 8 DAYS I STATRTED TO FEEL MYSELF AGAIN AND MY HEALTH PROBLEMS STARTED TO DISSAPEAR AND NOW I AM BACK TO NORMAL AGAIN
DOCTOR SOMETIMES DONT LISTEN TO THE PATIENTS COMPLAINS THEY ONLY GO BY BLOOD WORK BUT THE PATIENT STILL HAVE MANY SIDE EFFECTS
I LIKE TO SHARE MY EXPERIENCE BECAUSE I DONT BELIEVE IN DOCTORS SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO TRY THING TO FEEL BETTER NO BODY KONWS YOUR BODY BETTER THAN YOU AND WHEN YOU TELL YOUR DOCTOR THAT THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG YOU ARE RIGHT YOU KNOW YOUR BODY
I JUST HOPE THIS WILL HELP OTHER PEOPLES FEEL BETTER IT DOES NO HURT TO TRY IT MY WORK FOR YOU
GOOD LUCK AND GOD BLESS YOU ALL
If you are able to get your current doctor to test for those, make sure to include Free T3 and Free T4, which are not the same as Total T3 and Total T4. So check the lab order and make sure it is Free T3 and T4.
A good thyroid doctor will test and adjust Free T3 and Free T4 as necessary to relieve symptoms, without being constrained by resultant TSH levels. Symptom relief is most important, not just test results. Test results are important to know where you start and to track your progress as meds are increased.to relieve symptoms.
There is a lot of info that touts going gluten free as a way to treat Hashi's. So far it seems to be mostly anecdotal, rather than based on scientific studies. Going totally gluten free is challenging and the end effect on Hashi's is yet to be determined. One thing for sure is that whatever loss of thyroid hormone production has occurred due to Hashi's has to be offset with thyroid meds as required to relieve symptoms.
I also just sent you a PM with doctor info. Just click on your name and go to your personal page. Then click on messages.
A good thyroid doctor will test and adjust Free T3 and Free T4 as necessary to relieve symptoms, without being constrained by resultant TSH levels. Symptom relief is most important, not just test results. Test results are important to know where you start and to track your progress as meds are increased.to relieve symptoms.
There is a lot of info that touts going gluten free as a way to treat Hashi's. So far it seems to be mostly anecdotal, rather than based on scientific studies. Going totally gluten free is challenging and the end effect on Hashi's is yet to be determined. One thing for sure is that whatever loss of thyroid hormone production has occurred due to Hashi's has to be offset with thyroid meds as required to relieve symptoms.
I also just sent you a PM with doctor info. Just click on your name and go to your personal page. Then click on messages.
Thank you so much and yes, I'd like the name of the doctor in Ocala. We have gone there before for a good chiropractor who also does NAET for allergies. I'll try my doc here once more. He runs the "Preventive Medicine Center" in Gainesville. I want to give him a chance to test for iodine levels with a urinary test and also those you mentioned, cortisol and ferritin. My ferritin probably is low. I read somewhere that you had to address adrenal problems BEFORE (oh, there's caps again) starting a thyroid medicine so maybe that's why it got harder and harder to put one foot in front of the other even after only 4-5 days on the Nature Throid. Some books suggest adding some pure T3 for a couple months in addition to the Nature Throid. So, if my TSH is high and the other stuff is normal in lab tests, should I tell him to go more by my symptoms? Do the antibodies ever go down for Hashimoto's say if you change your diet to either gluten-free or Paleo or something? I've gone to knowthecause.com and looked at the anti-fungal diet;;;;OK TMI I know. I'm kind of all over the place in my brain right now. Trying to balance plates instead of Matthew 6.
You mentioned, "my doc wants to put me on Synthroid because he said I have an autoimmune disease and the natural stuff would make me feel worse." Your doctor doesn't seem to know what he is talking about. There are several other possible cause for your reaction. But it has nothing to do with autoimmune disease and natural thyroid. With respect to Epstein Barr, I have no experience and little knowledge to offer.
There are a couple of possible causes for your adverse reaction to the med that come to mind. One is that you are low in cortisol. People that are low in cortisol are reported to feel worse when starting on thyroid medication. Another possibility is low ferritin (iron related).
I think from the little bit of info so far that you are going to need a good thyroid doctor. By that I mean a doctor that will test and adjust Free T3 and Free T4 levels as necessary to relieve hypo symptoms, without being constrained by resultant TSH levels. Symptom relief should be all important for you, not just test results. A doctor does not have to be an Endo to be a good thyroid doctor, but if tests show a cortisol deficiency then I would suggest an Endo that understands how to address both problems. I have collected a list of .good thyroid doctors from all over the country, but the closest Endo reported to be a good thyroid doctor is in Ocala. If interested I will provide the name.
If tests show no deficiency in cortisol then the other possibility I mentioned was low ferritin. Hypo patients sometimes report adverse reactions to starting or increasing thyroid meds when ferritin is really low.
So, I think the first thing you need to do s to get some further testing. You should always insist on being tested for both Free T3 and Free T4 each time you go for tests. In addition, you need to be tested for low cortisol. A single serum cortisol test is inadequate. The best is saliva cortisol testing done at 4 different times during the day. Many doctors are reluctant to do those tests. If so, you can also get it done by other labs by paying about $135. You should also be tested for ferritin, Vitamin D, and B12.
There are a couple of possible causes for your adverse reaction to the med that come to mind. One is that you are low in cortisol. People that are low in cortisol are reported to feel worse when starting on thyroid medication. Another possibility is low ferritin (iron related).
I think from the little bit of info so far that you are going to need a good thyroid doctor. By that I mean a doctor that will test and adjust Free T3 and Free T4 levels as necessary to relieve hypo symptoms, without being constrained by resultant TSH levels. Symptom relief should be all important for you, not just test results. A doctor does not have to be an Endo to be a good thyroid doctor, but if tests show a cortisol deficiency then I would suggest an Endo that understands how to address both problems. I have collected a list of .good thyroid doctors from all over the country, but the closest Endo reported to be a good thyroid doctor is in Ocala. If interested I will provide the name.
If tests show no deficiency in cortisol then the other possibility I mentioned was low ferritin. Hypo patients sometimes report adverse reactions to starting or increasing thyroid meds when ferritin is really low.
So, I think the first thing you need to do s to get some further testing. You should always insist on being tested for both Free T3 and Free T4 each time you go for tests. In addition, you need to be tested for low cortisol. A single serum cortisol test is inadequate. The best is saliva cortisol testing done at 4 different times during the day. Many doctors are reluctant to do those tests. If so, you can also get it done by other labs by paying about $135. You should also be tested for ferritin, Vitamin D, and B12.
One more thing...sorry...my doc wants to put me on Synthroid because he said I have an autoimmune disease and the natural stuff would make me feel worse. So far, he's right. But I REALLY don't want to go on Synthroid because it's only T4. Confused in Florida.
Oh, I forgot. I'm taking 1/2 grain of Nature-Throid. Only started 6 days ago and feeling worse...shakey, a little nausea and weak?
I have a TSH of 5.9 and thyroglobulin antibodies of 32 and thyroid peroxidase antibodies of 24. I just got diagnosed with Hashimoto's and don't know how my adrenals are doing. Also may have some chronic underlying infection. I have Epstein-Barr virus which acts up sometimes.
If you would please post your thyroid related test results and their reference ranges shown on the lab report, members will be glad to try and assess the adequacy of your testing and treatment. Also, what is your thyroid med and daily dosage?
Thank you albert for your experience and Thank you Graves Lady for your input. I will help me to have a talk with my Dr., because Lev-whatever is not working for me.
Hey guys ............. check out the original date of the post which was YELLING. No worries it's a very old post ......... :)........... and since that post MedHelp now let's us make the print bigger with the three A's on the right hand side of the post which increases the size of the posts to make them all easier to read if one wants to,
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90% of us feel the big script is yelling.
As for the subject matter, well, we've been through this a few days back. Maybe you missed it.
Let's remember most of us are taking Levothyroxine and don't apreciate being browbeat about it.
If Armour works for you fine. It doesn't work for everyone.
As for the subject matter, well, we've been through this a few days back. Maybe you missed it.
Let's remember most of us are taking Levothyroxine and don't apreciate being browbeat about it.
If Armour works for you fine. It doesn't work for everyone.
I personally like the big script, its easier to read. I have to agree I took levothyroxine for a year and felt awful. After a week on westhroid I felt like a new person. My grandmother is also hypothyroid and has been on armour since the 50s, shes 80 years old and in great shape. When I was diagnosed with hashimotos and started on levothyroxine she couldn't understand why I was having so many problems feeling better. She convinced me to talk to my doctor about changing over and I'm so happy I did it gave me my life back. Thats evidence enough for me that t3 and t4 just work. Also some people who start on armour and do not feel better, often have another underlying problem. Lets remember most people who end up taking armour do so because the standard treatment of levothyroxine didn't work.
Yes Thanks GravesLady no need to yell at us.....everyone's body is different....Me I'm just looking forward to getting back on any medicine to help...lol
Well good for you! You sound like an advertisement. And you don't have to yell!
Not if a vegetarian.
Armour is harder to regulate in some patients and contains a much higher T3/T4 ratio than most humans need, after all, its a pigs thyroid. For many people the slight increase is fine, but some people can have problems When starting Armour it is possible to have a few good weeks of feel good, then then for it to seem to wear off. Usually the reason is that the initial boost is from the T3 addition, but then the crash is because the T3/T4 ratio is not optimum for your body.
Some people develop TED when they take animal-based extracts such as Armour, because the immune system react to foreign proteins found in glandular extracts. Synthetic meds. doesn't cause this probelm.
"Armour Thyroid tablets should be used with caution in patients with cardiovascular disease and it may increase the symptoms of diabetes, mellitus, diabetes inspidus or adrenal insufficiency". armourthyroid.com
"Thyroid extract (Armour Thyroid) is generally not recommended due to variation in potency and contains large amounts of T3 which can cause palpitations and tremors." thyroidfoundation.org
"Physicians also are concerned that a tablet of T3 causes higher than normal blood levels of this hormone, posing a risk for dangerous cardiac arythmias and heart attacks..." thyroid-fed.org
"overall there was little to no evidence that a combination
of T3 added to thyroxine provided therapeutic benefit
additional randomized control trials of L-thyroxine alone vs. thyroxine
plus T3 did not show any clinical benefit of T3 supplementation
Treatment of hypothyroidism with excess T3 has potential risks and ..."
mythyroid.com
This is all I have time for - got to go.
This is my personal take and i am not going to debate it, for its a matter of preference, one which can be dangerous for some.
Not if a vegetarian.
Armour is harder to regulate in some patients and contains a much higher T3/T4 ratio than most humans need, after all, its a pigs thyroid. For many people the slight increase is fine, but some people can have problems When starting Armour it is possible to have a few good weeks of feel good, then then for it to seem to wear off. Usually the reason is that the initial boost is from the T3 addition, but then the crash is because the T3/T4 ratio is not optimum for your body.
Some people develop TED when they take animal-based extracts such as Armour, because the immune system react to foreign proteins found in glandular extracts. Synthetic meds. doesn't cause this probelm.
"Armour Thyroid tablets should be used with caution in patients with cardiovascular disease and it may increase the symptoms of diabetes, mellitus, diabetes inspidus or adrenal insufficiency". armourthyroid.com
"Thyroid extract (Armour Thyroid) is generally not recommended due to variation in potency and contains large amounts of T3 which can cause palpitations and tremors." thyroidfoundation.org
"Physicians also are concerned that a tablet of T3 causes higher than normal blood levels of this hormone, posing a risk for dangerous cardiac arythmias and heart attacks..." thyroid-fed.org
"overall there was little to no evidence that a combination
of T3 added to thyroxine provided therapeutic benefit
additional randomized control trials of L-thyroxine alone vs. thyroxine
plus T3 did not show any clinical benefit of T3 supplementation
Treatment of hypothyroidism with excess T3 has potential risks and ..."
mythyroid.com
This is all I have time for - got to go.
This is my personal take and i am not going to debate it, for its a matter of preference, one which can be dangerous for some.
Thank you for saying something about this!
I am getting tired of seeing those capital letters screaming at me.
I am getting tired of seeing those capital letters screaming at me.
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