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Naturethroid
Anyone on here taking naturethroid? Like? I'm trying to find 1/4 grain dose in Dallas for when I'm ready to start hormone again in a couple weeks. I can't find it. My pharmacy keeps ordering it but it doesn't come in. Is anyone taking it or has any knowledge of this product?
Thank you
Thank you
Thanks for your reply Bruce! I have a feeling I am not doing well with the fillers on Armour, plus armour costs twice as much! Ughh
no I'm not, i take t4/t3 synthetic but i have a bottle of the naturethroid sitting on my counter. In my trips around the world i have met a lot of people who do better on Nature throid. not sure why, maybe because it has a little more stuff in it and a bigger dose per grain. hope it works:)
So Bruce are you still on the Nature throid? How has it worked for you? I am switching next week from Armour.
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My adrenal numbers were in the toilet a few months ago, well, I suppose they are still not great, but my physician recommended
A: Adricor - it's a bit pricey but it works. There are actual studies behind it.
B: Increase your sea salt intake. She said a tsp. of sea salt in a glass of water 3x a day but I just.can't.do.it.
C: don't volunteer for ANYTHiNG! You are your own project. No exercise unless it is very gentle.
A: Adricor - it's a bit pricey but it works. There are actual studies behind it.
B: Increase your sea salt intake. She said a tsp. of sea salt in a glass of water 3x a day but I just.can't.do.it.
C: don't volunteer for ANYTHiNG! You are your own project. No exercise unless it is very gentle.
1/4 grain of desiccated is hardly anything-- equivalent to 9.5mg T4 and 2.25mg T3-- an absolute baby dose. For reference, most people start on a low dose and raise in small increments several times over the course of a month or two. If you raise too slowly, you may find your body will sense the new hormone and produce less hormone of its own to compensate, in turn making you hypo again. It seems the average final dose ranges from 1 1/2 to 3 1/2 grains, though everyone is different.
I know these posts are from a couple years ago, but I just wanted to throw in my two cents. Once my adrenals were supported like yours, I couldn't wait on the thyroid meds. If I had to go weeks w/o thyroid meds, I would die! I feel SO hypo! The fatigue is so severe I can barely stand up. I just switched back to NT 1/4 grain from SR T3 and clearly it's not enough. Going to do 1/2 grain for a few days and pray that's enough. I have 1/2 grain tabs that I was splitting in half. But since the tabs weren't scored, they didn't cut in half very well even with a pill cutter. Otherwise will call my endo next week and ask to be upped to 1 grain. How have you been since your original post?
I started adrenal treatment on 1.25.2011. It's been a month. Was thinking of starting 1/8 grain erfra tomorrow.....
Two weeks is not enough for adrenals to heal. All hormones take time, a month minimum.
If your feeling better, why wreck it? Dont want to start over again..........
As far as weight gain- you seemed a little concerned on one post. But being male, and being in good shape before this, its my guess you wont have a problem shedding a few lbs later on with thyroid treatment. If I remember correctly you already had a habbit of working out , so nothing new for you to do, which is half the battle for some people - changing their life style..
If your feeling better, why wreck it? Dont want to start over again..........
As far as weight gain- you seemed a little concerned on one post. But being male, and being in good shape before this, its my guess you wont have a problem shedding a few lbs later on with thyroid treatment. If I remember correctly you already had a habbit of working out , so nothing new for you to do, which is half the battle for some people - changing their life style..
Ok. Thank you. I've been on adrenal support since Jan 25. My dr. Told me to take it for two weeks originally. Then she told me to take my time, so I wonder how long to wait before starting thyroid.
Bruce
Bruce
Yes, Armour was reformulated first, then NT was. Both of them still work for some people. Probably more than not. Remember its the odd balls that post here. People don't post so much saying this "med works great", they just leave.
As far as reaction. Just my hypothesis - lesser strength of any med will have less effect, what ever that effect is.
As far as reaction. Just my hypothesis - lesser strength of any med will have less effect, what ever that effect is.
someone just wrote me and said that NT was re-formulated and people have issues now since this has happened. I thought that was just with armour.
So i think im going to do the erfra route.... 1/4 or 1/8 grain to start. Thats where i am now..
(i guess im answering my own post)
bruce
So i think im going to do the erfra route.... 1/4 or 1/8 grain to start. Thats where i am now..
(i guess im answering my own post)
bruce
Sorry one more question....... 1/4 grain or 1/8 grain, If I have a bad reaction will it happen with the same magnitude on either strength?
Ok so moose likes erfra...... I think I may go that route... Doesn't look like either are too popular on here.
Keep reading.
I am still very confused with your message you sent me a few days ago and if you want to address that more in detail please reply to the message. I prefer not to discuss your concerns on this thread or publically.
I am still very confused with your message you sent me a few days ago and if you want to address that more in detail please reply to the message. I prefer not to discuss your concerns on this thread or publically.
Yeah I agree. Im covering all my basis this time. If I take my time and do all this adrenal stuff first, take all my vitimans, be a good little jewish boy, and then i take the NT (or armour) and I fail, at least I know that i have done everything that i could.
I honesly am STILL to this day convinced that there is something else going on causing a lot of my problems that has yet to be discovered. I really do not understand how I can feel great all day long (like today) and then at 5:30 take an ugly turn and feel like I just want to crawl under a rock and be forgotten about.
Kind of a funny point of interest: Do you watch mystery diagnosis? I watch it every week. 1/2 of the diseases the people have that are left diagnosed are treated with the same medication I am using to treat my adrenal fatigue. Which in my mind is telling me that there could be something else going on with me that I am treating, and not even know it.
On the web site of Dr. Lam, he lists one of the symptoms of adrenal fatigue as "feeling worse between 3-5". This is the only ray of hope to me that this really is adrenal and not something else.
BRuce
I honesly am STILL to this day convinced that there is something else going on causing a lot of my problems that has yet to be discovered. I really do not understand how I can feel great all day long (like today) and then at 5:30 take an ugly turn and feel like I just want to crawl under a rock and be forgotten about.
Kind of a funny point of interest: Do you watch mystery diagnosis? I watch it every week. 1/2 of the diseases the people have that are left diagnosed are treated with the same medication I am using to treat my adrenal fatigue. Which in my mind is telling me that there could be something else going on with me that I am treating, and not even know it.
On the web site of Dr. Lam, he lists one of the symptoms of adrenal fatigue as "feeling worse between 3-5". This is the only ray of hope to me that this really is adrenal and not something else.
BRuce
I remember recovering Bruce. Its something you never forget when you are blessed with things improving.
It started out small where I would feel better for a while ( example would be 2 days out of the month) then those increased...
Almost 14 months went by with improvement and I reacall thinking about what the beginning was like. I began with 2 days feeling OK the entire month and now I was at feeling good ALL days - except for 2 or 3...
Take your time. I also remember when things were improving I grwew so impatient that I too went too fast and was doing things too quickly.
I did have to start ALL OVER after that one and learned my lessons the hard way.
It started out small where I would feel better for a while ( example would be 2 days out of the month) then those increased...
Almost 14 months went by with improvement and I reacall thinking about what the beginning was like. I began with 2 days feeling OK the entire month and now I was at feeling good ALL days - except for 2 or 3...
Take your time. I also remember when things were improving I grwew so impatient that I too went too fast and was doing things too quickly.
I did have to start ALL OVER after that one and learned my lessons the hard way.
i tried levoxrl ONE time. about 6 weeks ago i met an endo that thought levoxl was the be all/end all to my problems. It did the same thing to me that all the other synthetics did. Ill never forget that day. My wife was online booking a trip for us to go to disneyworld and i was sitting next to her with my head in my hand begging for a way out.
I am so anxious and ready to take the NT or erfra and try it out. But I am doing exactly as stella has suggested. I am feeling better on adrenal support every single day. Every day i feel a drop better. Its amazing. I still have my downs, and im putting on weight from the stuff, but I can deal with the weight loss part later. I think im actually at my normal BMI at this point whereas I was below it prior. Hey, my baggy clothes fit now LOL
I am so anxious and ready to take the NT or erfra and try it out. But I am doing exactly as stella has suggested. I am feeling better on adrenal support every single day. Every day i feel a drop better. Its amazing. I still have my downs, and im putting on weight from the stuff, but I can deal with the weight loss part later. I think im actually at my normal BMI at this point whereas I was below it prior. Hey, my baggy clothes fit now LOL
Just want to make sure that what I wrote was not misunderstood. I didn't say anything about allergy to the hormone, but rather I wrote 'possibly allergic to something in it.'
The fillers and binders added to medications can cause a reaction, even mild, such as itchy skin. From everything I've read, the term used for this is often hypersensitivity or allergic reaction. The body was reacting to something it determined to be an allergen.
I took Levoxyl for a few weeks. I had itchy skin, parethesia, headaches, pounding in my ears. Switched to Armour and three days later those symptoms were gone. I was told it might have been the dye or fillers in the tablets, not the hormone. I never thought of myself as a rare case.
The fillers and binders added to medications can cause a reaction, even mild, such as itchy skin. From everything I've read, the term used for this is often hypersensitivity or allergic reaction. The body was reacting to something it determined to be an allergen.
I took Levoxyl for a few weeks. I had itchy skin, parethesia, headaches, pounding in my ears. Switched to Armour and three days later those symptoms were gone. I was told it might have been the dye or fillers in the tablets, not the hormone. I never thought of myself as a rare case.
I don't agree we are allergic to these meds and that is something to go by. Possibly the fillers in rare cases but we are not allergic to hormones. That is absolutely not part of this.
Hormones that dip - or even rise - in an abnormal method either by illness or regaining strength can - and most will, have a skin reaction. Our skin is the largest living cell we have and if it was becoming abnormal it too - can send outward reactions we now can see.
Hives - rashes are more of a reaction to something happening in the body causing this upset. The word "allergic" is thrown around way too much in the medical word as a conclusion to "something" but no one knows.
The fact is with thyroid medication when you have shot adrenals is simple. Your adrenals will not accept the thyroid getting well before they have a change to do that first.
That's it.
Hormones that dip - or even rise - in an abnormal method either by illness or regaining strength can - and most will, have a skin reaction. Our skin is the largest living cell we have and if it was becoming abnormal it too - can send outward reactions we now can see.
Hives - rashes are more of a reaction to something happening in the body causing this upset. The word "allergic" is thrown around way too much in the medical word as a conclusion to "something" but no one knows.
The fact is with thyroid medication when you have shot adrenals is simple. Your adrenals will not accept the thyroid getting well before they have a change to do that first.
That's it.
As Stella said, dont jump the gun. Yes , remember you had issues with as the thyroid med types you tried in the past, and it possibly was from you adrenals. They take time to fix from what I've read. As far as your weight gain and other symptoms, you can concentrate on that after your adrenals are better.
And what if you can take any thyroid med after your adrenals are corrected ?- that would be a dream come true that you will only know about by waiting this through.
So, I take it you did take a saliva adrenal test not to long ago that was for reviling than a standard blood or urine cortisol test? It showed weak or fluctuating adrenals?
If that was the case and you found some type of heath professional that took these results seriously, consider yourself lucky. Many have to guess at treating there adrenals (many supplement options), as very few docs know what to do.
And what if you can take any thyroid med after your adrenals are corrected ?- that would be a dream come true that you will only know about by waiting this through.
So, I take it you did take a saliva adrenal test not to long ago that was for reviling than a standard blood or urine cortisol test? It showed weak or fluctuating adrenals?
If that was the case and you found some type of heath professional that took these results seriously, consider yourself lucky. Many have to guess at treating there adrenals (many supplement options), as very few docs know what to do.
Hi Lazymoose, No, I'd not read about the Naturethroid stocking issue. I wish I had time to read though all the posts but I don't : ( Missed that one. Heck sometimes I missed them in a thread I am reading!
Bruce, you wrote that you have a stockpile at home of Erfa and Naturethroid in your possession and are asking the forum members which you should take.
You posted above that you took "1" Erfa (Option 1) and you couldn't tolerate it.
First of all, a bad reaction to one Erfa would mean to me that you are possibly allergic to something in it. Why list Erfa as an option then, if you could not tolerate it before?
I defer to Stella and Barb who are community leaders and have the most experience. Like Stella says above - relax and continue with the adrenal repair.Except for the hunger, weight gain, and tinnitis and 3-5pm episodes you experience, you stated that most of your other symptoms are gone.
Your doctor is leaving the choice up to you, which natural dessicated you wish to give a try. You came to the forum to have help making a choice, but ultimately like most situations in our lives, the final choice is up to you.
You know we all wish you well whatever you decide.
Bruce, you wrote that you have a stockpile at home of Erfa and Naturethroid in your possession and are asking the forum members which you should take.
You posted above that you took "1" Erfa (Option 1) and you couldn't tolerate it.
First of all, a bad reaction to one Erfa would mean to me that you are possibly allergic to something in it. Why list Erfa as an option then, if you could not tolerate it before?
I defer to Stella and Barb who are community leaders and have the most experience. Like Stella says above - relax and continue with the adrenal repair.Except for the hunger, weight gain, and tinnitis and 3-5pm episodes you experience, you stated that most of your other symptoms are gone.
Your doctor is leaving the choice up to you, which natural dessicated you wish to give a try. You came to the forum to have help making a choice, but ultimately like most situations in our lives, the final choice is up to you.
You know we all wish you well whatever you decide.
You were UNABLE to take the synthetics.....
I think Bruce you were unable to take any thyroid medication period....
in the state you were in with adrenal issues... Thyroid meds, all thyroid meds can have an adverse effect in the body when the adrenal are konked out.
You may do extremely well on any thyroid meds after your adrenals are strong and the choices of NT or synthetic could all still be an option.
Since you got the meds and all types in your possession... RELAX.....!
Take one thing at a time...
Savor the blessing of you finally seeing light after a long period of he//..
D o n ' t ....... j u m p...... t h e ......... g u n.
I think Bruce you were unable to take any thyroid medication period....
in the state you were in with adrenal issues... Thyroid meds, all thyroid meds can have an adverse effect in the body when the adrenal are konked out.
You may do extremely well on any thyroid meds after your adrenals are strong and the choices of NT or synthetic could all still be an option.
Since you got the meds and all types in your possession... RELAX.....!
Take one thing at a time...
Savor the blessing of you finally seeing light after a long period of he//..
D o n ' t ....... j u m p...... t h e ......... g u n.
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