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heart symptoms?

Hi! just wondering if anyone out there has heart palpitaions as a symptom for any kind of thyroid condition.  I have elevated TSH (3.35) normal T4 low freeT3, normal reverse T3, high anti-tpo (35), and really high Anti-TG.  I have constant heart palpitations (premature atrial contractions).  I do not have weight gain or low energy.  I do show dry skin and small amount of puffiness around eyes.  It's mainly the palpitations bothering me.  Any idea's out there?
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Hindoo, how perfect!  Was Hindoo not a filly, or are you not a filly?  I always assume (there we go again) that I'm talking to women - a fair assumption since most of us hypos are.  I may have to rearrange my mental image.

Definitely organic.  Obviously, not a product of cow.  Now, I really want you to try this.  I'm not convinced western medicine is all that it's cracked up to be.  Wow, would you fall off your chair if it actually worked.  You'd never be without your iron pyrite and ruby zoisite again.  Do the Indians have anything creative to say about hypothyroidism?

Well, we'll hope that in the spirit of "laughter is the best medicine", they'll forgive us for being a little whacked once in a while.  We must be having a "thyroid moment", don't you think?  It's not our fault, it's the disease........
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OMG I think you have scientifically figured it out.  It all falls into place now.  Obviously I was a Kentucky Derby winner in one of my previous incarnations.  When I consider the Indian angle I could have only been the 1881 winner Hindoo.  Not a filly, you see.  

Don't know how I'm ever going to be able to swing a golf club with all that stuff hanging over my solar chakra.  Still don't even know what I'm going to use to hang it with, but obviously it should be organic, don't you think?

How long before Stella and Laura throw us out of here?
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OMG you guys are a crackup ! lol....
Peeing myself laffing here :)
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I have to assume (we all know what that does) that the solar chakra isn't far from the solar plexus...probably lots closer than India is to the US.  In fact, I'm thinking they might be the same thing.  Coincidentally, the solar plexus is just about where your diaphragm is.  How do you think one goes about hanging all this on one's body?  Necklaces?  Tape?

Can we assume from all this that you were a race horse in a previous life or might be reincarnated as one in the next?  They have such great names!  Oh, and if you're quick about it, the Derby is next Saturday, and I always cheer for a filly.
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Well now I've found that my diaphragm flutters put me in exclusive company.  It appears that the vast majority of diaphragm flutters occur in horses with low potassium, who have been exercised heavily.   Maybe I could hang a potassium pill right between the iron pyrite and the ruby zoisite, over my solar chakra, while lying on the sofa.  Now if I can only find my solar chakra.  

Let me know when you can't take any more of my research.    LOL
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I love it!

I actually took belly dancing classes (a long, long time ago).  It was for the exercise - seemed to be the part of my body that needed working.  It didn't last very long - I was pretty pathetic.

At least the Indians are acknowledging the condition.  Have you checked the internet for sources of ruby zoisite?!  You can get just about anything online, can't you?  
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And here's an outstanding recommendation for diaphragm flutters--if you're into Indian medicine.  
"That's the diaphragm convulsing. You may have an imbalance or blockage at the solar chakra but for immediate relief a piece of iron pyrite worn directly over the solar chakra will stop those convulsions from happening. A piece of ruby zoisite placed just above the pyrite, between the solar and heart chakras, should help to balance the solar and heart chakras and ease away any blockage that may be there."


Ahhhhh!!  Wouldn't you know it.  I'm overstocked on iron pyrite, but I'm all out of ruby zoisite.  Wonder if Walmart carries it?

Aren't you sorry that I got onto this thread.  LOL
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Just wanted to make a preliminary report on my search for info on diaphragm flutters.  So far, I have found that it might be a good thing----If you want to become an expert belly dancer.  Doesn't do it for me, but thought I'd pass it on for your consideration.  LOL
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Hope all goes well with the doc.  I guess palpitations can be form both hyper and hypo thyroid conditions.  Ask him about your parathyroid also.  Good luck
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Thanks for the response!  It might be a good idea to ask your cardiologist to do a complete thyroid function blood panel.  They often only test for T3 and T4 and those indicators are not conclusive for thyroid disorders.  I have had palpitations most of my life also but not these constant PAC's.  You mentioned that you have high blood calcium.  Have you had your PTH (parathyroid hormone) levels tested?  If your blood calcium is high and your PTH is also high that is a strong indicator that you could have hyperparathyroidism.  Palpitations are also a symptom.  I have decided to consult an endo doctor.  Seems more related to my situation rather than a cardiologist.  I had the EKG, and ultrasound and was told all was normal and was just something I would have to live with.  How can something affecting my heart so much be normal?  Will keep in touch
Mel48
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Well, that's comforting. Someimes my heart flutters, and then I get tachycardia, but sometimes not.  I think other things might feel similar...like the beginnings of hunger pangs, or a muscle (perhaps diaphragm) twitch.  Let me know if you come up with any interesting info.
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My heart flutters are from a heart murmur (from Birth) so am used to them by now lol.
I suffer with Bradycardia and Tachycardia from the heart murmur.
Good reading here though...great to see some connection in regards to the diaphram too.
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Yes, the fluttering feeling woke me up  three times the night I was wearing the Holter monitor, but nothing unusual showed up in the results.  This and the other tests, along with never noticing any change in heart rate, plus the way the fluttering feeling seems to move around has led me to believe it is not heart related at all.  So I am doing some web surfing on diaphragm fluttering.
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Interesting about the fluttering.  I get tachycardia due to a congenital heart defect, and my last meds increase made it considerably worse.  I've since backed off to my previous dose.

However, there's a maneuver that I discovered on my own when I was just a teenager, and that my cardiologist has since told me is a legitimate technique for regulating the HR.  Amazingly enough, it sounds like exactly what you describe as "taking a deep breath and pushing on your diaphragm".  What you are actually doing is trying to bring pressure on your vagus nerve, which slows the HR (I also think it evens it out).  This has worked for me for years (knocking on wood right now).  The vagus nerve runs from your brain, down your neck, and then down the middle of your body.  This maneuver has a name, but I can't think of it at the moment.

Did you ever get the flutter when you had the Holter monitor on?
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Approx. 5 months ago, I began waking up during the night to a feeling of my heart fluttering.  This was right after an increase in my thyroid meds., so I assumed that it was related.  My total T4 was slightly above the high limit of the ref. range.  Since that time I have had an EKG, a full stress test, and worn a Holter monitor for 24 hours.  None of these tests showed anything unusual.  When the fluttering sensation wakes me at night, I check my pulse rate and it is always normal.    
Since then my meds have been changed to try and increase my free T3, without getting my T4 so high.  My free T3 is now in the upper part of the range, free T4 in the low end and TSH  is .14.  Everything seems good, but the nighttime fluttering continues.  
Numerous times the sensation seemed to be coming from an area below the heart, so I've wondered if it could be the diaphragm.  Interestingly, I've found that if I sit up in bed, the fluttering goes away.  Last night I took a deep breath and pushed down on my diaphragm and the fluttering stopped.  So now I'm doing some web surfing to see if I can find out more about this.
Just thought I'd throw this into the discussion, FWIW.
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The Holtor Monitor will determine within 24 hours whether there is an underlying heart condition from the thyroid or wether it is stress.
Personally I would say its stress or anxiety.
The thyroid releases hormones around 3-4am every day but not when you first get into bed.
See your Doc and explain the symptoms so as he can treat you properly.
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It´s likely because of stress.
You should talk to a doctor about it just in case.
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I have been getting them lately and I am hypo and at this very moment wearing a halter monitor. Is it common for Hypos to have this issue? I am also 7 wks pregnant too, but my Dr said it's weird because the ONLY time I get them is when I'm going to sleep and no matter the position I am in (sleeping upright also) it automatically comes when I'm falling asleep. I had them so bad last night I was sweat really bad...
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I had heart palps pre thyroidectomy when on synthetic meds.  I was being treated as being hypo, but my thyroid was still producing enough TSH and the meds would throw me hyper.  It took as little as 25 mcg's and I was off.  Sometimes it felt like a lovely little jungle beat was trying to rip my heart right out of my chest.  I haven't noticed it since TT.
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I have hyperthyroid and one of my symptons is/was heart palpitations. I am on propranolol but I havent seen the specialist yet...next friday!
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Yes! I've been suffering from heart palpitations, a racing heartbeat & spiked bp. My doctor put me on Atenolol, a beta blocker, until we find the source of what is causing my problems. It really helps when Im having an attack where my heart pounds and races! So ask your doc about beta blockers & whats causing your palpitations. My thyroid tests came back normal but I have hypercalcemia (high calcium levels) so I'm being tested for parathyroid & other hormones that could be causing my racing heartbeat & palpitations. But as I researched online, I found that palpitations are a direct symptom of hyperthyroid, so knowing that, & with your thyroid levels being elevated, you really need to follow up with your doctor with the test results you received in your hand! the sooner you figure out whats wrong, the sooner you can feel better:) also, be your own advocate, if your doctor doesnt help you out, see another doctor! thats the best advice I have:) good luck & I hope you feel well soon:)
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I have had heart palpatations and also had thyroid storm (Atrial Fibrillation)prior to RAI (3 times in 2 weeks).
I was on Inderal (beta blocker) to help.
There are a few names for the palps and the most common ones is Supraventricular fibrillation, Tachycardia and Bradycardia.
I have suffered with Bradycardia and Tachycardia since I was born due to a heart murmur.
See your Doc about beta blockers and ask for an ultrasound to be done on your heart to make sure it isnt working overtime with the thyroid issue.
Also an ECG wouldnt go astray but to get accurate results, you have to be basically experiencing these symptoms at the time of the ECG. (Electrocardiograpgh).
Personally , dont mess around with any concerns about the ticker...get it checked.
Let us know how you go :)
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Heart palpitations are a symptom of thyroid, I have not had them as Hypo, although members here that are Hyper have mentioned having them. I am not sure but I think they are medicated with Beta-Blockers. By me responding (It will bump your post up) its possible other members will advise. Good Luck FTB4
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