mrs.

[jeharvey]

hypothyroid and hcg

[gimel]

Sorry, but my crystal ball does not have enough power to translate that info.  We need for you to give us a lot more input.  LOL

[Tiredme]

Are you wondering if you are pregnant?

[Barb135]

Sounds more like a weight loss question.

[Tiredme]

I would have never guessed.  The only HCG I have had is to find out I was pregnant.  Being pregnant was not good for weight loss :).

[Barb135]

HCG is the new weight loss "phenomenon"....... I wouldn't have guessed either, if I didn't see it all the time on the Weight Loss and Dieting forum. From what I've read, there's no scientific basis for it.

You're right -- pregnancy and weight loss usually don't go hand in hand... though I gained less weight when I was pregnant than I did when I went hypo!!  LOL

[Brucergoldberg]

HCG can be used for different things, in both males and females.  HCG is a great weight loss drug but a lot of people report that they regain the weight that they lose due to going back to a poor diet once they get off the HCG.  Some people report weight loss up to 10 pounds per week infused properly.  The regimen usually involves 3 injections per week given in the abdomen area and stay to a 500 calorie diet.  If you have hashimotos that is not properly controlled and go on an HCG diet you are looking for problems.  First thing first is to get the thyroid under control.  Side effects can cause nausea and other symptoms since the body is pretty much tricked into thinking its pregnant.

Secondly for men, HCG is given in addition to doing testosterone injections or gel to help keep the sperm count high enough to continue to have children.  When men take testosterone, the testicles stop or slow down on producing sperm since it relies on the supplemental testosterone being introduced into the body.  By taking HCG injections it increases blood flow to the male testies and keeps things moving down there.   HCG for men is used at a much lower dose than the female and no reduction in calories is needed unless that male wants to lose weight.

I personally am not on HCG however my thyroid lady that i see once a week specializes in thyroid and medical weight loss so I'm always reading up on it and seeing the ladies discuss it while I'm waiting for my appointments.  I hope this is a helpful answer.

[Barb135]

Wow, Bruce; you're a wealth of knowledge on this subject.

Dr James Beckerman, who is one of the experts, here on MH, has a couple of blogs on HCG for weight loss.  Here's a link to one of them.  

http://www.medhelp.org/user_journals/show/272913/The-HCG-Die

According to Dr Beckerman, there is no scientific basis for using HCG - it's the severe calorie restriction that causes the weight loss.

[Brucergoldberg]

Try telling this to the ladies that wait with me to see the dr. that i see.  Most of them have never had luck even on a restricted diet until the tried the HCG.   I wanted to do HCG for some of the "male" benefits but decided against it after speaking to a couple different specialists.    

There are a couple folks out there that would get in the ring with Beckerman and it would certainly make for an interesting debate.

For a man, Nelson Vergel, author of "testosterone a mans guide"  would fight Beckerman tooth and nail (even on the women's portion of it).  I have not tried it, so i cant report on it.  But if i thought it would make me feel better I would certainly try!

http://www.testosteronewisdom.com/

http://www.testosteronewisdom.com/

[Barb135]

I'm just putting the info out there.  Dr Beckerman is not the only one who thinks there's no scientific basis for HCG -- it's not the HCG that causes the weight loss, it's the extremely low cal diet that does it; if I could maintain a 500 cal/day diet, I could lose weight, too, but would I be healthy when it's over with?   If the person doesn't adopt a healthy diet while on this protocol, they will gain back all they lost, and often more. It's like many other diets that offer huge loss in short times -- IF successful, the weight comes right back once the protocol is stopped.

Can't argue the male part of it, because I know nothing about that.  I'll try to do some research on Nelson Vergel...