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Feet hurt
Anyone else have problems with their feet hurting all the time? Just curious if this is somehow associated with my thyroid. Seemed to have started about the same time. I also am having hand problems. My finger tips wrinkle up all the time out of water.
I can't say how common or rare this condition is to be honest. But let's just say you have this condition and it's due to inflammation then going on an anti inflammatory diet would be recommended. I'm not sure if I've done permanent damage to my cells or not but my symptoms have improved notably since I changed my diet.
Dr Mercola has an article on inflammation: Top Anti-Inflammatory Foods, Herbs, and Spices. This is an excerpt...
"Your Diet Is Key for Reducing Chronic Inflammation
The running thread linking a wide variety of common health problems—from obesity and diabetes to heart disease and cancer—is chronic inflammation. The key to reducing chronic inflammation in your body starts with your diet, and being liberal in your use of high-quality herbs and spices is one simple way to boost the quality of your food. They're an inexpensive "secret weapon" that just about everyone can take advantage of. Spicing up your meals is not enough, however, if processed foods comprise the bulk of your diet.
It's important to realize that dietary components can either prevent or trigger inflammation from taking root in your body, and processed foods do the latter, courtesy of pro-inflammatory ingredients like high fructose corn syrup, soy, processed vegetable oils (trans fats), and other chemical additives. Besides adding anti-inflammatory foods to your diet, you’ll also want to avoid the following pro-inflammatory dietary culprits as much as possible:
* Refined sugar, processed fructose, and grains. If your fasting insulin level is three or above, consider dramatically reducing or eliminating grains and sugars until you optimize your insulin level, as insulin resistance this is a primary driver of chronic inflammation. As a general guideline, I recommend restricting your total fructose intake to 25 grams per day. If you’re insulin or leptin resistant (have high blood pressure, high cholesterol, heart disease, or are overweight), consider cutting that down to 15 grams per day until your insulin/leptin resistance has normalized
* Oxidized cholesterol (cholesterol that has gone rancid, such as that from overcooked, scrambled eggs)
* Foods cooked at high temperatures, especially if cooked with vegetable oil (such as peanut, corn, and soy oil)
* Trans fats
Replacing processed foods with whole, ideally organic foods will automatically address most of these factors, especially if you eat a large portion of your food raw. Equally important is making sure you’re regularly reseeding your gut with beneficial bacteria, as mentioned above."
Dr Mercola has an article on inflammation: Top Anti-Inflammatory Foods, Herbs, and Spices. This is an excerpt...
"Your Diet Is Key for Reducing Chronic Inflammation
The running thread linking a wide variety of common health problems—from obesity and diabetes to heart disease and cancer—is chronic inflammation. The key to reducing chronic inflammation in your body starts with your diet, and being liberal in your use of high-quality herbs and spices is one simple way to boost the quality of your food. They're an inexpensive "secret weapon" that just about everyone can take advantage of. Spicing up your meals is not enough, however, if processed foods comprise the bulk of your diet.
It's important to realize that dietary components can either prevent or trigger inflammation from taking root in your body, and processed foods do the latter, courtesy of pro-inflammatory ingredients like high fructose corn syrup, soy, processed vegetable oils (trans fats), and other chemical additives. Besides adding anti-inflammatory foods to your diet, you’ll also want to avoid the following pro-inflammatory dietary culprits as much as possible:
* Refined sugar, processed fructose, and grains. If your fasting insulin level is three or above, consider dramatically reducing or eliminating grains and sugars until you optimize your insulin level, as insulin resistance this is a primary driver of chronic inflammation. As a general guideline, I recommend restricting your total fructose intake to 25 grams per day. If you’re insulin or leptin resistant (have high blood pressure, high cholesterol, heart disease, or are overweight), consider cutting that down to 15 grams per day until your insulin/leptin resistance has normalized
* Oxidized cholesterol (cholesterol that has gone rancid, such as that from overcooked, scrambled eggs)
* Foods cooked at high temperatures, especially if cooked with vegetable oil (such as peanut, corn, and soy oil)
* Trans fats
Replacing processed foods with whole, ideally organic foods will automatically address most of these factors, especially if you eat a large portion of your food raw. Equally important is making sure you’re regularly reseeding your gut with beneficial bacteria, as mentioned above."
Thank you for taking the time to post all of that information, I will be looking into it. When "hormones aren’t getting into the cells where they’re needed" and "all lab test markers will be normal in this pattern"... what can be done to fix it? (Or will I find that out once I look at your recommended sources of info?)
I have experimented several times, once for three months, cutting my sugar intake to 0 and my carbs to less than 30 and even 20 a day, and I don't feel much of a difference. However, I totally agree that sugar is a killer, it's a scam just like the old tobacco scam with paid off scientists, etc.
Again, thanks.
I have experimented several times, once for three months, cutting my sugar intake to 0 and my carbs to less than 30 and even 20 a day, and I don't feel much of a difference. However, I totally agree that sugar is a killer, it's a scam just like the old tobacco scam with paid off scientists, etc.
Again, thanks.
That sugar ayayaya~! If you haven't watched Dr Lustig's video on youtube: Sugar The Bitter Truth then I highly recommend it.
I take b12 shots already and that hasnt helped my symptoms. I have been in serious denial about cutting out sugars and carbs. Guess it is time to get serious about that. :(
There is a video on youtube you can check out: Thyroid Pattern #21 - Cellular Resistance. I posted a few excerpts from some articles I found online. Yes I added the pesky sugar lol.
I also found out about not enough vitamin B12 worsening my cellular thyroid symptoms when I went without my B12 for a week or two (I have vitamin B12 malabsorption due to autoimmune pernicious anaemia). Quite interesting as the articles below mention elevated homocysteine as a reason for cellular resistance. Homocysteine rises due to not enough vitamin B6, folate, vitamin B12.
Nawellness - Hypothyroid: A Comprehensive Assessment:
"The thyroid receptors may also become resistant to the hormone from elevated pro-inflammatory Th1 cytokines from chronic inflammation, persistent elevated cortisol from chronic stress, deficient vitamin A, and methylation defects as seen with elevated homocysteine."
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Chris Kresser - 5 Thyroid Patterns That Won’t Show Up On Standard Lab Tests:
" Thyroid resistance
In this pattern, both the thyroid and pituitary glands are functioning normally, but the hormones aren’t getting into the cells where they’re needed. This causes hypothyroid symptoms.
Note that all lab test markers will be normal in this pattern, because we don’t have a way to test the function of cellular receptors directly.
Thyroid resistance is usually caused by chronic stress and high cortisol levels. It can also be caused by high homocysteine and genetic factors."
***
On commonness and rarity of thyroid hormone resistance: A discussion based on mechanisms of reduced sensitivity in peripheral tissues. Med Hypotheses. 2007;69(4):913-21. Epub 2007 Mar 26:
"Reduced sensitivity to thyroid hormone (TH) in peripheral tissues can occur as defects in TH transport into the cell, intracellular TH metabolism, cytosolic mechanisms, TH entry into the nucleus, thyroxin receptors (TRs) and receptor binding, transcription and post-transcriptional mechanisms.
Current literature reveals an extensive list of mutations, drugs, toxins, metabolites and autoimmune antibodies that may impair TH action in the cell, but such impairment may not be picked up by assays of TH and TSH in blood plasma. Substances may induce tissue specific resistance to thyroid hormone (RTH), e.g. by affecting numbers of different TR isoforms."
***
Harvard Medical School: What you eat can fuel or cool inflammation, a key driver of heart disease, diabetes, and other chronic conditions:
"Don't be so refined. The bolus of blood sugar that accompanies a meal or snack of highly refined carbohydrates (white bread, white rice, French fries, sugar-laden soda, etc.) increases levels of inflammatory messengers called cytokines. Eating whole-grain bread, brown rice, and other whole grains smooths out the after-meal rise in blood sugar and insulin, and dampens cytokine production."
I also found out about not enough vitamin B12 worsening my cellular thyroid symptoms when I went without my B12 for a week or two (I have vitamin B12 malabsorption due to autoimmune pernicious anaemia). Quite interesting as the articles below mention elevated homocysteine as a reason for cellular resistance. Homocysteine rises due to not enough vitamin B6, folate, vitamin B12.
Nawellness - Hypothyroid: A Comprehensive Assessment:
"The thyroid receptors may also become resistant to the hormone from elevated pro-inflammatory Th1 cytokines from chronic inflammation, persistent elevated cortisol from chronic stress, deficient vitamin A, and methylation defects as seen with elevated homocysteine."
***
Chris Kresser - 5 Thyroid Patterns That Won’t Show Up On Standard Lab Tests:
" Thyroid resistance
In this pattern, both the thyroid and pituitary glands are functioning normally, but the hormones aren’t getting into the cells where they’re needed. This causes hypothyroid symptoms.
Note that all lab test markers will be normal in this pattern, because we don’t have a way to test the function of cellular receptors directly.
Thyroid resistance is usually caused by chronic stress and high cortisol levels. It can also be caused by high homocysteine and genetic factors."
***
On commonness and rarity of thyroid hormone resistance: A discussion based on mechanisms of reduced sensitivity in peripheral tissues. Med Hypotheses. 2007;69(4):913-21. Epub 2007 Mar 26:
"Reduced sensitivity to thyroid hormone (TH) in peripheral tissues can occur as defects in TH transport into the cell, intracellular TH metabolism, cytosolic mechanisms, TH entry into the nucleus, thyroxin receptors (TRs) and receptor binding, transcription and post-transcriptional mechanisms.
Current literature reveals an extensive list of mutations, drugs, toxins, metabolites and autoimmune antibodies that may impair TH action in the cell, but such impairment may not be picked up by assays of TH and TSH in blood plasma. Substances may induce tissue specific resistance to thyroid hormone (RTH), e.g. by affecting numbers of different TR isoforms."
***
Harvard Medical School: What you eat can fuel or cool inflammation, a key driver of heart disease, diabetes, and other chronic conditions:
"Don't be so refined. The bolus of blood sugar that accompanies a meal or snack of highly refined carbohydrates (white bread, white rice, French fries, sugar-laden soda, etc.) increases levels of inflammatory messengers called cytokines. Eating whole-grain bread, brown rice, and other whole grains smooths out the after-meal rise in blood sugar and insulin, and dampens cytokine production."
I forgot to add that including the burning of the heal the balls of my feet are very sensitive as well. Very tender.
Well I am glad I am not alone! I am only 42 and my feet are suddenly a problem. They hurt constantly. I can no longer wear flat shoes at all or go barefoot. Its either tenny shoes with good support or some flip flops I got at dillards with a lot of support. And even then if I am on my feet too long I pay for it dearly. Its hard to put much weight on them at times. And I had no problems until my thyroid went out of whack. I too have psoriasis since birth. Oddly it is very good right now.
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I have permanent nerve damage (peripheral neuropathy) from having had untreated Pernicious Anemia for, at least, 20 some years... I had a chance meeting with a dietician once and I asked her about a diet that might help the neuropathy. She said there really isn't one, but that anything that's "anti-inflammatory" should help. She recommended a diet that consists mostly of vegetables, protein, healthy fats, nuts, seeds, etc...
Based on her advice... I drastically reduced bread/bread products, including pizza, pancakes, etc and added more veggies to every meal. I also went back to full fat dairy, as opposed to the low/no fat varieties, added coconut oil and other healthy fats. I make sure I have a healthy portion of some type of meat (including red meat) or eggs for each meal.
I haven't added sugar to my food for years, but she also recommended that fruit be limited to one or two small servings/day, because of the sugar content, even though it's "natural"...
I find that cutting back on the bread products has the greatest impact, on both my neuropathy and my weight... within a couple months of starting this type of eating program, I'd lost 10 lbs. Altogether, I've lost about 22...
Now if I'd just get away from the computer and exercise more, I'd probably lose even more!!
Based on her advice... I drastically reduced bread/bread products, including pizza, pancakes, etc and added more veggies to every meal. I also went back to full fat dairy, as opposed to the low/no fat varieties, added coconut oil and other healthy fats. I make sure I have a healthy portion of some type of meat (including red meat) or eggs for each meal.
I haven't added sugar to my food for years, but she also recommended that fruit be limited to one or two small servings/day, because of the sugar content, even though it's "natural"...
I find that cutting back on the bread products has the greatest impact, on both my neuropathy and my weight... within a couple months of starting this type of eating program, I'd lost 10 lbs. Altogether, I've lost about 22...
Now if I'd just get away from the computer and exercise more, I'd probably lose even more!!
I found your information very interesting. I have had very debilitating symptoms of hypothyroidism since undergoing HCV treatment with interferon over three years ago. The hypo was not diagnosed until 5 months ago, and the endo attributes it to the interferon; labs do not indicate it is Hashimoto's. I started levothyroxine (along with D and B12 vitamins which were low) at that time. I am very disappointed that I am still experiencing symptoms especially fatigue, exhaustion and brain fog, and I do have the issues with my feet. The mention of cytokines really perked my interest as they seem to be very involved or affected when interferon is taken. I am now wondering if some of the permanent damage of interferon might also have affected the cytokines? However, I may be barking up the wrong tree with all of this. :) If you have more info to share, or if you can direct me to more info on this cytokine issue I would appreciate it. Thanks!
I have the very same thing!! Painful, burning heels and wrinkly fingertips.
The wrinkly fingertips started early 2013 and my burning heels started in October/November sometime last year. A few months after I started using Levothyroxine.
He burning is so bad that it's too painful to support my weight on my heels when laying in bed or sitting on couch. The skin there feels thick and like it's not mine when I'm touching it.
In December or so my heels started to peel and it got worse and worse with deep and painful and bleeding cracks (fissures)
I also suddenly got back patches of what I thought was old childhood eczema on top of the feet. I just went to my pcp a few weeks ago and he told me it was psoriasis and gave me a strong cortisone cream to use. After 2 weeks use there's not much difference so now I'm waiting for a referral to a dermatologist.
I feel like my heels are inflamed. And my fingertips are still as wrinkly as before I started Levo.
I know there's something going on but my endo seems uninterested in finding out what. She doesn't even want to test my thyroid antibodies because "it doesn't tell us anything anyways" so I'm lost.
The wrinkly fingertips started early 2013 and my burning heels started in October/November sometime last year. A few months after I started using Levothyroxine.
He burning is so bad that it's too painful to support my weight on my heels when laying in bed or sitting on couch. The skin there feels thick and like it's not mine when I'm touching it.
In December or so my heels started to peel and it got worse and worse with deep and painful and bleeding cracks (fissures)
I also suddenly got back patches of what I thought was old childhood eczema on top of the feet. I just went to my pcp a few weeks ago and he told me it was psoriasis and gave me a strong cortisone cream to use. After 2 weeks use there's not much difference so now I'm waiting for a referral to a dermatologist.
I feel like my heels are inflamed. And my fingertips are still as wrinkly as before I started Levo.
I know there's something going on but my endo seems uninterested in finding out what. She doesn't even want to test my thyroid antibodies because "it doesn't tell us anything anyways" so I'm lost.
You can try the reverse T3 test as this might show something perhaps. From researching I realise that inflammatory cytokines are affecting the receptors on the cells for thyroid hormone. I only found out myself due to decades of symptoms vanished one month into a two month hyperthyroid flare up then return when the flare up was over.
I can worsen my cellular issues overnight if I eat too much refined sugar. If I'm am foolish (ha!) and eat sugary foods for two weeks then for the next 8 weeks I pay for that badly with worsening of symptoms, notably my feet, until the inflammation reduces again.
I can worsen my cellular issues overnight if I eat too much refined sugar. If I'm am foolish (ha!) and eat sugary foods for two weeks then for the next 8 weeks I pay for that badly with worsening of symptoms, notably my feet, until the inflammation reduces again.
My neurological symptoms of hypothyroidism include pain when applying pressure to the soles of my feet, burning feet, tingling/numbness in extremities, carpal tunnel, eyelid drooping (ptosis), absent reflexes, cerebellar ataxia, severe bradypnea (central nervous system depression).
The burning feet, pain when applying pressure to the soles of my feet, carpal tunnel and ptosis are some of my numerous symptoms of cellular thyroid resistance which worsened with Hashimoto's thyroiditis. I don't recall having wrinkled fingertips but I wouldn't rule hypothyroidism out as a possible cause.
The burning feet, pain when applying pressure to the soles of my feet, carpal tunnel and ptosis are some of my numerous symptoms of cellular thyroid resistance which worsened with Hashimoto's thyroiditis. I don't recall having wrinkled fingertips but I wouldn't rule hypothyroidism out as a possible cause.
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