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ruptured ovarian cyst
does anyone know if its normal to still feel pain and be nauseous after a cyst rupture. i feel so crappy
Hi Moomanoo,
Just thought you might find this amusing - well, maybe not amusing but interesting!
I had a follow-up appointment with my doctor after my D&C this past Thursday. He told me after doing an external and internal exam, that I needed to go to the ER at the hospital immediately. I was dumbfounded! I had been experiencing the cyst pain recently as I think I mentioned to you. And I realized it was cyst like pains. I think because I nearly jumped off the exam table, he left the room and called the Emergency Dept. right away. He came back into my room and gave me a note to take to the hospital. On it read: Ovarian cyst rupture? and Ectopic?. I went home, got my paper work regarding my previous ultrasounds, and went to the ER. After having waited 8 hours, the doctor told me to come back in the next morning for yet another ultrasound. I returned on the Friday, had the ultrasound and waited a total of 5 more hours to hear the results. It turns out, I have a brand NEW cysts, on the right side, called: Mildly Complex hemorrhagic cyst measuring 4.7 cm of the right ovary Adnexa. (I was told by the ER physician that it is a cyst that contains blood, and not much can be done at this point except it requires follow up to monitor it.) I am told also, if it ruptures it will be more painful than my usual regular cysts. I did some additional research, and I discovered, that these types of cysts if larger than 5 cm, and lasting longer than 6-8 weeks without regression, need to be removed surgically. Keep in mind, most fluid filled cysts do not need any medical intervention. The only thing I am told to do, is take Anti Inflammatory and pain medication to assist with the acute pain if any. I am having pains (sharper) in the usual lower right area.
I just wanted to let you know, that these do happen, and even the more serous ones like this (which I haven't had before that I know of) don't have much resolution. So I wanted to let you know, that you don't need to worry too much! And yes, please do keep me posted! As I will you.
Sincerely,
Sandi (Dragon1973)
MedHelp Genetics Community Leader;
Children - Special Needs Community Leader;
Down syndrome Community Leader & Ds Group Forum Founder/Moderator
Just thought you might find this amusing - well, maybe not amusing but interesting!
I had a follow-up appointment with my doctor after my D&C this past Thursday. He told me after doing an external and internal exam, that I needed to go to the ER at the hospital immediately. I was dumbfounded! I had been experiencing the cyst pain recently as I think I mentioned to you. And I realized it was cyst like pains. I think because I nearly jumped off the exam table, he left the room and called the Emergency Dept. right away. He came back into my room and gave me a note to take to the hospital. On it read: Ovarian cyst rupture? and Ectopic?. I went home, got my paper work regarding my previous ultrasounds, and went to the ER. After having waited 8 hours, the doctor told me to come back in the next morning for yet another ultrasound. I returned on the Friday, had the ultrasound and waited a total of 5 more hours to hear the results. It turns out, I have a brand NEW cysts, on the right side, called: Mildly Complex hemorrhagic cyst measuring 4.7 cm of the right ovary Adnexa. (I was told by the ER physician that it is a cyst that contains blood, and not much can be done at this point except it requires follow up to monitor it.) I am told also, if it ruptures it will be more painful than my usual regular cysts. I did some additional research, and I discovered, that these types of cysts if larger than 5 cm, and lasting longer than 6-8 weeks without regression, need to be removed surgically. Keep in mind, most fluid filled cysts do not need any medical intervention. The only thing I am told to do, is take Anti Inflammatory and pain medication to assist with the acute pain if any. I am having pains (sharper) in the usual lower right area.
I just wanted to let you know, that these do happen, and even the more serous ones like this (which I haven't had before that I know of) don't have much resolution. So I wanted to let you know, that you don't need to worry too much! And yes, please do keep me posted! As I will you.
Sincerely,
Sandi (Dragon1973)
MedHelp Genetics Community Leader;
Children - Special Needs Community Leader;
Down syndrome Community Leader & Ds Group Forum Founder/Moderator
Hi there.
Thank you so much for the time you take to reply, which such detail, and very interesting and helpful information. And I really appreciate your concern and caring nature.
Since I spoke to my Doctor, I am not worrying as much, and even less since reading your reply, especially about the bowel info.
My lord, you have had a rough trot, you poor thing. To go what you have been through, and are still going through, and then still take the time to help others so much is amazing!
I have never been told about the accuracy, or should I say inaccuracy of the HSG test, so thank-you for that info. It is amazing what happened to you, and then you became pregnant.
I hope you can come up with treatment and medication to help your PCOS, at least you know now, not that it may be any consolation.
You make so much sense, and have very good advice. My partner is a very positive, supportive, caring and loving person. I wish I'd listen to him more, about how anxiety and worrying makes all my health problems, and my sanity so much worse. I don't know what I'd do without him.
Thanks again, and I will talk to you soon.
Thank you so much for the time you take to reply, which such detail, and very interesting and helpful information. And I really appreciate your concern and caring nature.
Since I spoke to my Doctor, I am not worrying as much, and even less since reading your reply, especially about the bowel info.
My lord, you have had a rough trot, you poor thing. To go what you have been through, and are still going through, and then still take the time to help others so much is amazing!
I have never been told about the accuracy, or should I say inaccuracy of the HSG test, so thank-you for that info. It is amazing what happened to you, and then you became pregnant.
I hope you can come up with treatment and medication to help your PCOS, at least you know now, not that it may be any consolation.
You make so much sense, and have very good advice. My partner is a very positive, supportive, caring and loving person. I wish I'd listen to him more, about how anxiety and worrying makes all my health problems, and my sanity so much worse. I don't know what I'd do without him.
Thanks again, and I will talk to you soon.
Oh Moomanoo,
I know you are a worrier by nature. Please do not worry so much, you are going to make yourself sick with worry. I have cervical cancer cells which back in 2003 required me to undergo a LEEP, loop removal of a partial area of my cervix. When you talk about blockages in your bowels, the thing I think of is the possibility of Endometriosis which is your uterine lining spreading to organs outside of the uterus. When this happens, it can cause pain and problems. I think though - your bowels and the potential blockage have nothing to do with your reproductive problems and are likely a result of your IBS. I would like to think that instead since you suffer with IBS normally. In terms of a bowel rupture, you have to remember, even if you have a blockage, your intestines with your bowels are approximately 30 feet long and would take a long long time before they filled up so much that they would actually rupture. Rupture of the bowel as you mentioned, is very serious, and can lead to something called sepsis. If she (your GYNO) is concerned that your bowels are possibly the cause of your bloating and pain, I would think she would get you in right away for bowel imaging. You should persist with her for your testing to be done sooner than later. You need to let her know about your anxiety. It's not healthy for you either way, the blockage, the constipation and bloating not to mention the pain. But on top of it all your anxiety. Get her to rush your testing.
The dye test she wants to do for your tubes is called a HSG (or Hysterosalpingogram) test. PLEASE, do not worry about this test or the results and I will explain why. When I had it done, (the 1ST TIME) I was told my fallopian tubes were completely blocked on both sides, meaning that I couldn't ever conceive without In vitro Fertilization. I was DEVASTATED. I then learned, after getting the results that these results can be incorrect up to 50% of the time. I was shocked. A 50% false positive rate? I felt better hearing that, and was scheduled for a second HSG test the next month. When that one was done, the radiologist said, "perfectly clear". When he told me this, I asked how this could be. I asked if it's possible that blocked tubes can become "unblocked". He said absolutely not. Once they are fully blocked they can not unblock without surgical intervention - if at that point it is even possible. So I was very confused. I asked then why my first test result indicated a full blockage. He said it was likely that my tubes were in full spasm when I had the initial test. Whatever the reason, I was just grateful that it was wrong. Something else I was told was that even if they found a blockage the 2nd time, I would have been referred for a Laparoscopy and it is then they discover that 50% of the results are still wrong. It is just not an effective test when you get a negative result. It is however a proven fact that after a dye test or HSG you are most fertile for up to three months following the test. If they do not use a radioactive dye, (mine was a saline solution) you can TTC that very cycle, and lo and behold, I found myself pregnant after the 2nd test which was 3 days before my ovulation was to occur. I actually conceived that week. (Though I ended up miscarrying, I was so very happy I was able to conceive naturally.) They tell you to make sure you get the HSG right after your period, but before you ovulate. A small window for some if you have long periods. The day I had the HSG done I was on my Cycle Day 11. Pretty close to Ovulation which is typically CD14.
So, the purpose of my message is to say, do not be discouraged if you get a result indicating you have a blockage. It isn't necessarily true. And again, if it happens to show after two tests, the normal protocol is to have a follow-up Laparoscopy which they can either identify if it is a true blockage, and what if anything can be done about it while they scope. I think it's interesting that your GYNO wants to do the scope, and the HSG. I hope the plan is to do the HSG first, and then the scope. It doesn't make much sense to scope first then do the HSG.... Especially if the follow up to a HSG is to scope afterwards. Also keep in mind, blockages happen from things such as Spasms (like mine), Endometriosis, Scar tissue from previous surgeries like C-Sections.. which I should add, when they were telling me I had a blockage, I was kind of flabbergasted since I had a baby just 7 months prior. My question was, how can you have a blockage but conceive a child? The answer to that is, after birth, scar tissue can form, especially if you had a C-Section for the delivery - which I did. And it wouldn't have been too much of a stretch to realize that I could have had lots of scar tissue since I scar very badly and also keloid (raised scars that don't look like they heal) all the time.
Please please try not to worry so much that you give yourself more anxiety attacks. I know it's so stressful, but it isn't helping you to be so worried before you have something to worry about. I know it's human nature to worry about your health, but given that they aren't even sure of anything more than a cyst at this point, don't give yourself additional stress. My point of this message is just to give you all the information so that you aren't blindsided by the possibilities, which I think in the end would be much more stressful if you weren't aware of them. I always like to know what I am up against, but not at the cost of my sanity.
In addition, today I finally got the doctor to admit my diagnosis - I am PCOS. This I have known for many years, but he was not willing to concede to this fact, despite the blaring obvious symptoms and more importantly cysts!
Please keep me updated. I am constantly thinking about you, and wondering if you are okay.
Sincerely,
Sandi (Dragon1973)
MedHelp Genetics Community Leader;
Children - Special Needs Community Leader;
Down syndrome Community Leader & Ds Group Forum Founder/Moderator
I know you are a worrier by nature. Please do not worry so much, you are going to make yourself sick with worry. I have cervical cancer cells which back in 2003 required me to undergo a LEEP, loop removal of a partial area of my cervix. When you talk about blockages in your bowels, the thing I think of is the possibility of Endometriosis which is your uterine lining spreading to organs outside of the uterus. When this happens, it can cause pain and problems. I think though - your bowels and the potential blockage have nothing to do with your reproductive problems and are likely a result of your IBS. I would like to think that instead since you suffer with IBS normally. In terms of a bowel rupture, you have to remember, even if you have a blockage, your intestines with your bowels are approximately 30 feet long and would take a long long time before they filled up so much that they would actually rupture. Rupture of the bowel as you mentioned, is very serious, and can lead to something called sepsis. If she (your GYNO) is concerned that your bowels are possibly the cause of your bloating and pain, I would think she would get you in right away for bowel imaging. You should persist with her for your testing to be done sooner than later. You need to let her know about your anxiety. It's not healthy for you either way, the blockage, the constipation and bloating not to mention the pain. But on top of it all your anxiety. Get her to rush your testing.
The dye test she wants to do for your tubes is called a HSG (or Hysterosalpingogram) test. PLEASE, do not worry about this test or the results and I will explain why. When I had it done, (the 1ST TIME) I was told my fallopian tubes were completely blocked on both sides, meaning that I couldn't ever conceive without In vitro Fertilization. I was DEVASTATED. I then learned, after getting the results that these results can be incorrect up to 50% of the time. I was shocked. A 50% false positive rate? I felt better hearing that, and was scheduled for a second HSG test the next month. When that one was done, the radiologist said, "perfectly clear". When he told me this, I asked how this could be. I asked if it's possible that blocked tubes can become "unblocked". He said absolutely not. Once they are fully blocked they can not unblock without surgical intervention - if at that point it is even possible. So I was very confused. I asked then why my first test result indicated a full blockage. He said it was likely that my tubes were in full spasm when I had the initial test. Whatever the reason, I was just grateful that it was wrong. Something else I was told was that even if they found a blockage the 2nd time, I would have been referred for a Laparoscopy and it is then they discover that 50% of the results are still wrong. It is just not an effective test when you get a negative result. It is however a proven fact that after a dye test or HSG you are most fertile for up to three months following the test. If they do not use a radioactive dye, (mine was a saline solution) you can TTC that very cycle, and lo and behold, I found myself pregnant after the 2nd test which was 3 days before my ovulation was to occur. I actually conceived that week. (Though I ended up miscarrying, I was so very happy I was able to conceive naturally.) They tell you to make sure you get the HSG right after your period, but before you ovulate. A small window for some if you have long periods. The day I had the HSG done I was on my Cycle Day 11. Pretty close to Ovulation which is typically CD14.
So, the purpose of my message is to say, do not be discouraged if you get a result indicating you have a blockage. It isn't necessarily true. And again, if it happens to show after two tests, the normal protocol is to have a follow-up Laparoscopy which they can either identify if it is a true blockage, and what if anything can be done about it while they scope. I think it's interesting that your GYNO wants to do the scope, and the HSG. I hope the plan is to do the HSG first, and then the scope. It doesn't make much sense to scope first then do the HSG.... Especially if the follow up to a HSG is to scope afterwards. Also keep in mind, blockages happen from things such as Spasms (like mine), Endometriosis, Scar tissue from previous surgeries like C-Sections.. which I should add, when they were telling me I had a blockage, I was kind of flabbergasted since I had a baby just 7 months prior. My question was, how can you have a blockage but conceive a child? The answer to that is, after birth, scar tissue can form, especially if you had a C-Section for the delivery - which I did. And it wouldn't have been too much of a stretch to realize that I could have had lots of scar tissue since I scar very badly and also keloid (raised scars that don't look like they heal) all the time.
Please please try not to worry so much that you give yourself more anxiety attacks. I know it's so stressful, but it isn't helping you to be so worried before you have something to worry about. I know it's human nature to worry about your health, but given that they aren't even sure of anything more than a cyst at this point, don't give yourself additional stress. My point of this message is just to give you all the information so that you aren't blindsided by the possibilities, which I think in the end would be much more stressful if you weren't aware of them. I always like to know what I am up against, but not at the cost of my sanity.
In addition, today I finally got the doctor to admit my diagnosis - I am PCOS. This I have known for many years, but he was not willing to concede to this fact, despite the blaring obvious symptoms and more importantly cysts!
Please keep me updated. I am constantly thinking about you, and wondering if you are okay.
Sincerely,
Sandi (Dragon1973)
MedHelp Genetics Community Leader;
Children - Special Needs Community Leader;
Down syndrome Community Leader & Ds Group Forum Founder/Moderator
I am sorry you go through this all the time......
I'm not sure if I told you, they are looking at the cyst, don't know until they look if they will remove it, and removing a polyp in my cervix. They will look for any adhesions and signs of endometriosis, and also run a dye through my tubes, to see if they are open.
I received an e-mail from my GYNO today, and she seems to think, that because I said it hurts at times when I push while going to the toilet, and am bloated, and even more constipated than normal, there could be a problem with my bowel also. So now I am ever so fearful of there being an adhesion to or a blockage in my bowel, and in between now and op, my bowel will rupture, which can be life threatening.......It's all I think about, I feel like crying now....
I'm not sure if I told you, they are looking at the cyst, don't know until they look if they will remove it, and removing a polyp in my cervix. They will look for any adhesions and signs of endometriosis, and also run a dye through my tubes, to see if they are open.
I received an e-mail from my GYNO today, and she seems to think, that because I said it hurts at times when I push while going to the toilet, and am bloated, and even more constipated than normal, there could be a problem with my bowel also. So now I am ever so fearful of there being an adhesion to or a blockage in my bowel, and in between now and op, my bowel will rupture, which can be life threatening.......It's all I think about, I feel like crying now....
I am sorry you go through this all the time......
I'm not sure if I told you, they are looking at the cyst, don't know until they look if they will remove it, and removing a polyp in my cervix. They will look for any adhesions and signs of endometriosis, and also run a dye through my tubes, to see if they are open.
I received an e-mail from my GYNO today, and she seems to think, that because I said it hurts at times when I push while going to the toilet, and am bloated, and even more constipated than normal, there could be a problem with my bowel also. So now I am ever so fearful of there being an adhesion to or a blockage in my bowel, and in between now and op, my bowel will rupture, which can be life threatening.......It's all I think about, I feel like crying now....
I'm not sure if I told you, they are looking at the cyst, don't know until they look if they will remove it, and removing a polyp in my cervix. They will look for any adhesions and signs of endometriosis, and also run a dye through my tubes, to see if they are open.
I received an e-mail from my GYNO today, and she seems to think, that because I said it hurts at times when I push while going to the toilet, and am bloated, and even more constipated than normal, there could be a problem with my bowel also. So now I am ever so fearful of there being an adhesion to or a blockage in my bowel, and in between now and op, my bowel will rupture, which can be life threatening.......It's all I think about, I feel like crying now....
Hi,
Thank you for your condolences. I am in the stages of healing. And you are welcome for the rely!
I have been told, (something that made me think) that when you don't have your period, the cysts can enlarge rather then decrease when you do menstruate. And if you hadn't had your period because you cut out your sugar pills, (which I too used to do) the cysts can become larger and also much more painful. But hearing you say that your pain is increased makes me think that you may be having symptoms of a rupture. If the pain is constant and hurts when you sit or go to the washroom - which i am getting in the mornings myself this past week, it may very well be leading to a rupture. The pains in my legs and groin are Sciatica related and I don't believe have much to do with the cysts. But I think for the most part, it is possible that the pain can radiate down. What you also have to worry about is (on a different topic altogether) is Endometriosis. This can cause the same kinds of pains too. I am not too sure if you mentioned (I didn't look back at your previous posts from the beginning) if they looked for Endometriosis. I have never had my cysts surgically removed, in fact they have always been there, coming and going as well as rupturing. I was told that during my cycle monitoring the residual cyst remaining was nearly 3 cm in diameter. I don't know what the one that ruptured was. They had never told me about adhesions. So I can't comment but I will still ask the doctors about this for us both!
Sincerely,
Sandi (Dragon1973)
MedHelp Genetics Community Leader;
Children - Special Needs Community Leader;
Down syndrome Community Leader & Ds Group Forum Founder/Moderator
Thank you for your condolences. I am in the stages of healing. And you are welcome for the rely!
I have been told, (something that made me think) that when you don't have your period, the cysts can enlarge rather then decrease when you do menstruate. And if you hadn't had your period because you cut out your sugar pills, (which I too used to do) the cysts can become larger and also much more painful. But hearing you say that your pain is increased makes me think that you may be having symptoms of a rupture. If the pain is constant and hurts when you sit or go to the washroom - which i am getting in the mornings myself this past week, it may very well be leading to a rupture. The pains in my legs and groin are Sciatica related and I don't believe have much to do with the cysts. But I think for the most part, it is possible that the pain can radiate down. What you also have to worry about is (on a different topic altogether) is Endometriosis. This can cause the same kinds of pains too. I am not too sure if you mentioned (I didn't look back at your previous posts from the beginning) if they looked for Endometriosis. I have never had my cysts surgically removed, in fact they have always been there, coming and going as well as rupturing. I was told that during my cycle monitoring the residual cyst remaining was nearly 3 cm in diameter. I don't know what the one that ruptured was. They had never told me about adhesions. So I can't comment but I will still ask the doctors about this for us both!
Sincerely,
Sandi (Dragon1973)
MedHelp Genetics Community Leader;
Children - Special Needs Community Leader;
Down syndrome Community Leader & Ds Group Forum Founder/Moderator
I AM VERY SORRY TO HEAR ABOUT YOUR MISCARRIAGE.....
Thanks so much for you very detailed reply.
I don't have my period that often, as I purposely cut it out by not taking the sugar tablets, however, when I do, I have had this pain before when I have period, but not this bad, since my missed period (which I planned to have.), and then I had the next period, and the pain is still here, annoying the hell outa me....
The medication I am now taking for the pain is working slightly, but not enough, I am due to take next lot right now, which I will do, because boy have the other one's worn off.
It hurts when I go to the toilet, when I walk, and I cannot get comfortable at all in bed!
The pain is not excruciating, believe me, if it was, I would be going down to emergency.
The pain and the thought of the op are consuming my every thought, I am a worrier, who suffers from anxiety.
My bloating and not being able to go to the toilet properly, is always there due to my IBS, however, it is so much worse since this pain started when I missed that period 6-8 weeks ago. Some days I don't go at all.
As for the schiatica, it is quite bad now, as I usually have a very firm massage deep into the nerve from my bottom to ankle every 3 weeks, which helps greatly, but have not had one for about 6-7 weeks, and to be honest, I don't want one for quite some time, as I feel too sore and delicate to have her touch me.
So, is the pain in your leg and groin schiatica related, or cyst related? Have yours always ruptured, or have you had some removed surgically? Do you know how big they were? Have you ever had any adhesions?
Thanks so much for you very detailed reply.
I don't have my period that often, as I purposely cut it out by not taking the sugar tablets, however, when I do, I have had this pain before when I have period, but not this bad, since my missed period (which I planned to have.), and then I had the next period, and the pain is still here, annoying the hell outa me....
The medication I am now taking for the pain is working slightly, but not enough, I am due to take next lot right now, which I will do, because boy have the other one's worn off.
It hurts when I go to the toilet, when I walk, and I cannot get comfortable at all in bed!
The pain is not excruciating, believe me, if it was, I would be going down to emergency.
The pain and the thought of the op are consuming my every thought, I am a worrier, who suffers from anxiety.
My bloating and not being able to go to the toilet properly, is always there due to my IBS, however, it is so much worse since this pain started when I missed that period 6-8 weeks ago. Some days I don't go at all.
As for the schiatica, it is quite bad now, as I usually have a very firm massage deep into the nerve from my bottom to ankle every 3 weeks, which helps greatly, but have not had one for about 6-7 weeks, and to be honest, I don't want one for quite some time, as I feel too sore and delicate to have her touch me.
So, is the pain in your leg and groin schiatica related, or cyst related? Have yours always ruptured, or have you had some removed surgically? Do you know how big they were? Have you ever had any adhesions?
Hi Moomanoo,
My pain, - oddly enough I am going through the pain as we speak again (even though I just had a D&C miscarriage on the 7th June) is a sharp type of pain, which depending on which side I develop the cysts or ruptures happens alternately. This time, for the last week so far, it has been on my lower left side where my ovary is. It is like a sharp almost stabbing like pain, which I wanted to also comment on something you mentioned in a previous post, I too suffer with Sciatica in my back which after my first son's birth, moved to the front which was deemed a femoral nerve pain by a Neuro-surgeon. But this pain is different then the femoral pain, and thus I know it's my ovarian cysts. When I have a rupture, it is a much more intense sharp pain that doesn't let up, even when I change position. It is usually constant. The normal cyst pain that I suffer with usually happens during ovulation and menstruation. I had this confirmed by two radiologist doctors who asked me if I suffer with pains at those times, and then I advised them that I was aware of my cysts. They were sympathetic. The pain that happens during my cycles (ovulation and menstruation) occur primarily because either the egg passes the cysts and irritates it, or the menstrual cycle inflames it. Now, when I have a rupture, it is usually because of an egg passing the cyst or the cyst has grown so large it ruptures. This can happen at anytime during the cycle, but I have found in myself, it occurs when I ovulate. The first time it happened, I had no idea. I was in the process of monitoring my fertility cycles, and the radiologist told me I had just suffered an ovarian cyst rupture. They noted the free fluid in the spaces, and they followed up by asking me if I was having excruciating pains a few days before the ultrasound. I was shocked, because I thought it was just my typical ovulation pains but to the extreme. I had no idea that the excessive pain was because of the rupture. Now I know. I tend to have a higher pain tolerance due to my medications for my sciatica, and also because I suffer with long term chronic pains from my back injuries.
In answer to your other questions, Yes - I suffer with bloating, extremely so. I definitely noticed this past week (as did my husband) that I was more bloated than I usually am, and it is concurrent with my cyst pains that I am feeling currently. I presume this would definitely be responsible for the gas and constipation. It's funny because I never did associate the constipation with the cysts, but just last week I was constipated, and I thought it was a result of my D&C procedure, which it still may have been, but it is certainly interesting to note that you also suffer with the same symptoms. I will definitely ask my doctor about those and let you know more when I find out. There is always a possibility that it could be a result of your IBS, just as mine could be from the surgery. I know that anaesthetic can slow down your bowels, just as any narcotic pain reliever does. But, the bloating is definitely something I experience when I have cyst pain.
The thing I would pass on to you which I think is important to note, is when you have pains that are constant, and extreme, make sure you don't hesitate to go to the Emergency or at the very least a walk in clinic if it is after hours to see your doctor. Ruptures can be very serious, and the fluids can cause problems. Bleeding is something you have to be concerned about. Also, you can never tell unless you have imaging done like an ultrasound, that it isn't an Ectopic pregnancy. This last pregnancy, I had cyst pains in the 5th week of the pregnancy, and I could have sworn I was suffering an Ectopic pregnancy. I did get an ultrasound, and while it was in my mind that it could be a cyst, I had always thought, once you are pregnant, you don't suffer with cysts - which is why they put you on forms of birth control when you are diagnosed with ovarian cysts. That is the standard treatment for cysts, and birth control essentially fools your body into thinking it's pregnant which is why you do not ovulate and there for are protected against pregnancy. So when this pain happened, I believed it must have been Ectopic. Well, after my doctor's appointment, I learned that cysts still do happen while and when you are pregnant. Which is why for some (like aldun72023) who were on the pill, continued to suffer with cysts.
I hope that this helps you, and if you have more questions, please fire away! I am certainly here to help and maybe explain some co-incidental symptoms that we all may share because of the cysts.
Sincerely,
Sandi (Dragon1973)
MedHelp Genetics Community Leader;
Children - Special Needs Community Leader;
Down syndrome Community Leader & Ds Group Forum Founder/Moderator
My pain, - oddly enough I am going through the pain as we speak again (even though I just had a D&C miscarriage on the 7th June) is a sharp type of pain, which depending on which side I develop the cysts or ruptures happens alternately. This time, for the last week so far, it has been on my lower left side where my ovary is. It is like a sharp almost stabbing like pain, which I wanted to also comment on something you mentioned in a previous post, I too suffer with Sciatica in my back which after my first son's birth, moved to the front which was deemed a femoral nerve pain by a Neuro-surgeon. But this pain is different then the femoral pain, and thus I know it's my ovarian cysts. When I have a rupture, it is a much more intense sharp pain that doesn't let up, even when I change position. It is usually constant. The normal cyst pain that I suffer with usually happens during ovulation and menstruation. I had this confirmed by two radiologist doctors who asked me if I suffer with pains at those times, and then I advised them that I was aware of my cysts. They were sympathetic. The pain that happens during my cycles (ovulation and menstruation) occur primarily because either the egg passes the cysts and irritates it, or the menstrual cycle inflames it. Now, when I have a rupture, it is usually because of an egg passing the cyst or the cyst has grown so large it ruptures. This can happen at anytime during the cycle, but I have found in myself, it occurs when I ovulate. The first time it happened, I had no idea. I was in the process of monitoring my fertility cycles, and the radiologist told me I had just suffered an ovarian cyst rupture. They noted the free fluid in the spaces, and they followed up by asking me if I was having excruciating pains a few days before the ultrasound. I was shocked, because I thought it was just my typical ovulation pains but to the extreme. I had no idea that the excessive pain was because of the rupture. Now I know. I tend to have a higher pain tolerance due to my medications for my sciatica, and also because I suffer with long term chronic pains from my back injuries.
In answer to your other questions, Yes - I suffer with bloating, extremely so. I definitely noticed this past week (as did my husband) that I was more bloated than I usually am, and it is concurrent with my cyst pains that I am feeling currently. I presume this would definitely be responsible for the gas and constipation. It's funny because I never did associate the constipation with the cysts, but just last week I was constipated, and I thought it was a result of my D&C procedure, which it still may have been, but it is certainly interesting to note that you also suffer with the same symptoms. I will definitely ask my doctor about those and let you know more when I find out. There is always a possibility that it could be a result of your IBS, just as mine could be from the surgery. I know that anaesthetic can slow down your bowels, just as any narcotic pain reliever does. But, the bloating is definitely something I experience when I have cyst pain.
The thing I would pass on to you which I think is important to note, is when you have pains that are constant, and extreme, make sure you don't hesitate to go to the Emergency or at the very least a walk in clinic if it is after hours to see your doctor. Ruptures can be very serious, and the fluids can cause problems. Bleeding is something you have to be concerned about. Also, you can never tell unless you have imaging done like an ultrasound, that it isn't an Ectopic pregnancy. This last pregnancy, I had cyst pains in the 5th week of the pregnancy, and I could have sworn I was suffering an Ectopic pregnancy. I did get an ultrasound, and while it was in my mind that it could be a cyst, I had always thought, once you are pregnant, you don't suffer with cysts - which is why they put you on forms of birth control when you are diagnosed with ovarian cysts. That is the standard treatment for cysts, and birth control essentially fools your body into thinking it's pregnant which is why you do not ovulate and there for are protected against pregnancy. So when this pain happened, I believed it must have been Ectopic. Well, after my doctor's appointment, I learned that cysts still do happen while and when you are pregnant. Which is why for some (like aldun72023) who were on the pill, continued to suffer with cysts.
I hope that this helps you, and if you have more questions, please fire away! I am certainly here to help and maybe explain some co-incidental symptoms that we all may share because of the cysts.
Sincerely,
Sandi (Dragon1973)
MedHelp Genetics Community Leader;
Children - Special Needs Community Leader;
Down syndrome Community Leader & Ds Group Forum Founder/Moderator
I also forgot to ask in my last post, have you, Dragon 1973 or anyone when having cysts, had bloating, wind and constipation also. I'm not sure if this is related to whatever is going on in there or my IBS.....
Thankyou for your reply.
Yeah, I realise there are always risks to every surgery, but I am a born worrier, and it's like my thoughts are consumed with fear.
Fear of something going wrong. And also fear of them finding bad adhesions, or that my ovary or tube are wrecked, and removing it, or giving me a hysterectomy, i guess I am going to extremes here, but these are the things I worry about. And also, that they will test the cyst and polyp, and tell me they are cancerous, even though the GYNO assures me she doesn't believe they are. What was your pain like? Did it happen prior to rupture, or after. Mine is like a dull, somtimes sharp pain, that goes right down into my groin, hip, and around tho the back. Was yours like this?
Yeah, I realise there are always risks to every surgery, but I am a born worrier, and it's like my thoughts are consumed with fear.
Fear of something going wrong. And also fear of them finding bad adhesions, or that my ovary or tube are wrecked, and removing it, or giving me a hysterectomy, i guess I am going to extremes here, but these are the things I worry about. And also, that they will test the cyst and polyp, and tell me they are cancerous, even though the GYNO assures me she doesn't believe they are. What was your pain like? Did it happen prior to rupture, or after. Mine is like a dull, somtimes sharp pain, that goes right down into my groin, hip, and around tho the back. Was yours like this?
Hi Moomanoo,
I am sorry for my late reply, it sounds like a few poster's have given you great advice, and I am also glad you got your testing done. I would take the opportunity to get the laproscopy done, while they are doing the hysteroscopy. I know you are worried about your surgeries, and also being a smoker on top of it. I have had several surgeries and while I was a smoker also. You have to be honest on your anaesthesiologist paper work, which is filled out before any surgery. They do ask you about your histories and smoking as well. There are always risks and complications with surgery, but this kind of surgery is quite common. And I would say, it is in your best interest to have it done, seeing as how you are in constant pain in the mornings and while sleeping.
I certainly know how that pain feels, and I understand your worry also.
The biggest decision you will face (it sounds like) is choosing where and what doctors you want to use.
I hope that you are feeling a bit better now that you have a diagnosis, and don't have the constant worry as to what is wrong or going on with your body. I would suggest, as far as future concerns, ask your doctor who performs the scopes, what they suggest as far as birth control to assist with the cysts going forward. I have heard that the Depo Provera shot is good when accurately used, but the rates of pregnancy are higher due to negligence in arranging follow-up shots in the correct timing. If you are diligent with your shots, your rates of pregnancy should be more consistent with the standard that is set out by the statistics. I have also read that use of birth control ie pills which are deemed to be 97% effective, are only less effective due to miss use.
I would certainly ask the doctor's opinion on what to use to help decrease the cysts.
I hope that everything goes okay, as I am sure it will. Please do let me know how everything goes for you.
Good luck, and if you have any other questions that I can help you with, please feel free to message me directly.
Sincerely,
Sandi (Dragon1973)
MedHelp Genetics Community Leader;
Down syndrome Community Leader & Ds Group Forum Founder/Moderator
I am sorry for my late reply, it sounds like a few poster's have given you great advice, and I am also glad you got your testing done. I would take the opportunity to get the laproscopy done, while they are doing the hysteroscopy. I know you are worried about your surgeries, and also being a smoker on top of it. I have had several surgeries and while I was a smoker also. You have to be honest on your anaesthesiologist paper work, which is filled out before any surgery. They do ask you about your histories and smoking as well. There are always risks and complications with surgery, but this kind of surgery is quite common. And I would say, it is in your best interest to have it done, seeing as how you are in constant pain in the mornings and while sleeping.
I certainly know how that pain feels, and I understand your worry also.
The biggest decision you will face (it sounds like) is choosing where and what doctors you want to use.
I hope that you are feeling a bit better now that you have a diagnosis, and don't have the constant worry as to what is wrong or going on with your body. I would suggest, as far as future concerns, ask your doctor who performs the scopes, what they suggest as far as birth control to assist with the cysts going forward. I have heard that the Depo Provera shot is good when accurately used, but the rates of pregnancy are higher due to negligence in arranging follow-up shots in the correct timing. If you are diligent with your shots, your rates of pregnancy should be more consistent with the standard that is set out by the statistics. I have also read that use of birth control ie pills which are deemed to be 97% effective, are only less effective due to miss use.
I would certainly ask the doctor's opinion on what to use to help decrease the cysts.
I hope that everything goes okay, as I am sure it will. Please do let me know how everything goes for you.
Good luck, and if you have any other questions that I can help you with, please feel free to message me directly.
Sincerely,
Sandi (Dragon1973)
MedHelp Genetics Community Leader;
Down syndrome Community Leader & Ds Group Forum Founder/Moderator
Thankyou for your reply.
How long were you in hospital for, just overnight?
I am worried they will find endometriosis, and adhesions. What I am really worried about is an adhesion to my bowel. When I looked at pictures on the nett, it is really quite scary to see how close the bowel actually is to your reproductive organs. ( i am so paranoid about getting a perforated bowel)
I am trying to decide whether to have the op done publicaly or privately. Public would mean no choice of Doctor, and a waiting list of who knows how long, costing me nothing at all. Private would let me choose the GYNO that I saw on Friday, and probably have it done very soon, however, the cost (as I don't have private health insurance) would be $2000-3000......
I do want to get this done asap, as the pain is so annoying. I don't sleep very well, no position is comfortable, and no pain killers I have taken really do much at all. Norofen Plus, which is usually a great painkiller, doesn't even touch the pain. Panadol (paracemol) is a bit better, but not great.
How long were you in hospital for, just overnight?
I am worried they will find endometriosis, and adhesions. What I am really worried about is an adhesion to my bowel. When I looked at pictures on the nett, it is really quite scary to see how close the bowel actually is to your reproductive organs. ( i am so paranoid about getting a perforated bowel)
I am trying to decide whether to have the op done publicaly or privately. Public would mean no choice of Doctor, and a waiting list of who knows how long, costing me nothing at all. Private would let me choose the GYNO that I saw on Friday, and probably have it done very soon, however, the cost (as I don't have private health insurance) would be $2000-3000......
I do want to get this done asap, as the pain is so annoying. I don't sleep very well, no position is comfortable, and no pain killers I have taken really do much at all. Norofen Plus, which is usually a great painkiller, doesn't even touch the pain. Panadol (paracemol) is a bit better, but not great.
My laparscopic surgery was fine. There were no complications, I healed quickly. The only side effect I had was the pain from the gas that they fill you up with to check all of your organs. However, they tell you in recovery how to lay so that you do not feel this gas pain. I was back to work in a matter of days. There are complications with every surgery, but the doctors just have to make you aware of that. It doesnt mean that anything will go wrong. I was scared because it was my first operation but once they gave me the "I dont care" medicine in pre-op, I didnt care anymore. The only time that I really didnt feel well was the day after the surgery because all of that medicine was coming out of my system. They make sure to send you home with some good pain medications just in case you need them, and they encourage you to take them before the pain starts and stay on schedule with them the first couple of days so that you do not experience any pain. I recommend having it to check for endometriosis, and to have the cysts removed. You dont want them to rupture. Let me know what you decide and how it goes. I will keep you in my prayers. I believe you will be okay.
Just giving you an update.
I had my GYNO app. today. She found a cervical polyp and a "simple"cyst on my left ovary.These are probably the answers to my problems.
I have to have a Hysteroscopy to remove the polyp, and she suggested, at the same time, (but is not pressuring me) to have a Laparoscopy to have a look at/remove cyst, check if I have endometriosis, check if I have an adhesion (of ovary to something else) and check my fallopian tubes are ok, by using a dye (some of this is due to my age, if I want to have children, to check fertility) I'm pretty sure I will have both done, however, after reading the possible complications of a laparoscopy, I am SCARED S......S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I do realise they have to state possible complications for all surgery, but I am still scared, and wondering if it would be any higher risk because I am a smoker, or risk of bowel perforation because I have IBS, with an extra loopy bowel. Do you know? Were you scared when you had yours? Did everything go ok in the hospital, and what was your recovery like? Even though she told me that she doesn't believe the cyst or polyp are cancerous, I still have a slight fear they could be, or that I may be told I wont be able to have a baby....................................
I had my GYNO app. today. She found a cervical polyp and a "simple"cyst on my left ovary.These are probably the answers to my problems.
I have to have a Hysteroscopy to remove the polyp, and she suggested, at the same time, (but is not pressuring me) to have a Laparoscopy to have a look at/remove cyst, check if I have endometriosis, check if I have an adhesion (of ovary to something else) and check my fallopian tubes are ok, by using a dye (some of this is due to my age, if I want to have children, to check fertility) I'm pretty sure I will have both done, however, after reading the possible complications of a laparoscopy, I am SCARED S......S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I do realise they have to state possible complications for all surgery, but I am still scared, and wondering if it would be any higher risk because I am a smoker, or risk of bowel perforation because I have IBS, with an extra loopy bowel. Do you know? Were you scared when you had yours? Did everything go ok in the hospital, and what was your recovery like? Even though she told me that she doesn't believe the cyst or polyp are cancerous, I still have a slight fear they could be, or that I may be told I wont be able to have a baby....................................
yes it is possible to have spotting. Maybe you should look in to Mirena the new uterine contraceptive device, or even Seasonique the pill that you take once a day but yet you only have a period every 3 months. Im not sure how either prevent ovarian cysts but everyone is different. My pill just happened to be causing the cysts, where others taking the pill were preventing ovarian cysts. It may also depend on which pill you are on. Talk to your doctor about these concerns, she should have the answer. Hope everything goes well!
Ok.
The only reason I would be afraid of getting pregnant would be that it would be unplanned. My partner and I do want to have children, however we have not planned this as yet.
I thought I was pregnant about 4 weeks ago (part of me was actually hoping). I didn't get my period at all last month, and had horrible cramping and bloating, and that is when this pain started. I have had it before when I've had my period, but it's gone away, this time it hasn't. My doctor told me in the past it was nothing, and I had an ultrasound last year, and it showed nothing.
I had negative preg. tests, and got my next period, which finished 4-5 days ago. It was suggested to me on this site, that it could have been due to skipping periods so many times, however, my Doctor said the only problem with doing this, is that if you do it too many times in a row, you could get spotting.
The only reason I would be afraid of getting pregnant would be that it would be unplanned. My partner and I do want to have children, however we have not planned this as yet.
I thought I was pregnant about 4 weeks ago (part of me was actually hoping). I didn't get my period at all last month, and had horrible cramping and bloating, and that is when this pain started. I have had it before when I've had my period, but it's gone away, this time it hasn't. My doctor told me in the past it was nothing, and I had an ultrasound last year, and it showed nothing.
I had negative preg. tests, and got my next period, which finished 4-5 days ago. It was suggested to me on this site, that it could have been due to skipping periods so many times, however, my Doctor said the only problem with doing this, is that if you do it too many times in a row, you could get spotting.
No, pregnancy rates are not higher on the shot. The only pregnancies I know of are people who were pregnant before they got the shot. We had that happen in a clinic I worked for once. I used to cut my periods out by skipping over the sugar pills as well but it still didnt protect me from ovarian cysts. Also, if you are afraid of getting pregnant, you can still use other forms of protection.
Thanks for your response.
But aren't the pregnancy rates higher with that injection?
Yeah, it would be great to be period free, that is why I cut mine out alot on the pill, by not taking the sugar tablets.
I guess I will have to wait until Friday to find out. I just hope it's nothing bad. And if they find no cysts, and suggests it may be my bowel, even though I will obviously follow it up, I dread the thought of having to have another colonoscopy.
But aren't the pregnancy rates higher with that injection?
Yeah, it would be great to be period free, that is why I cut mine out alot on the pill, by not taking the sugar tablets.
I guess I will have to wait until Friday to find out. I just hope it's nothing bad. And if they find no cysts, and suggests it may be my bowel, even though I will obviously follow it up, I dread the thought of having to have another colonoscopy.
Glad you have an appointment schedule. I had to get off of the pill because all I had was cyst after cyst. I had to have an abdominal laparoscopy done to remove the cysts, because they were large. My OBGYN told me that if I didnt want anymore cysts to get on the Depo Provera shot. so I started taking the shot and I have not had one cyst that I know of since. I have a pelvic ultrasound done every 6 months to check for them and the ultrasound is always negative. I dont know if this would be a good option for you but it could be something you could speak to your doctor about if you are interested in it. The best part is most people do not have a period on the shot. Ive been period free for 5+ years and I love it! lol but its possible that if you are having to push when you go to the restroom that it could be your bowel. You may want to talk to your OBGYN about that also. They can tell you if it is an ovarian cyst or bowel usually. Hope this helps, good luck.
Can anyone help me with what may be wrong with me?
Continuing on from all my above comments, I have this horrible stitch like pain near my left ovary, and down into my groin. It's worst in the morning before I go to the toilet, but then it's there all day. Everytime I push to go to the toilet, cough or even walk it hurts.
Could this be a cyst, my schiatica coming through to the front, or my IBS (a serious problem with my bowel)?
I am really worried it is something bad, and if it's a cyst, that it could rupture, or if it's a blockage in my bowel, it could rupture (very dangerous).
Does anyone have any suggestions, PLEASE!!!!!!!
I have other problems (one being the month before last, I didn't get my period, and I thought I was pregnant. Pregnancy tests done were negative, and I got my next period, that finished about 4 days ago)
Because of other problems also, I have a gynecologist appointment on Friday, and right before that appointment, I am having a gynecological ultrasound done. I will mention this new problem to her.
I have read though, that it is not common to get a cyst if you are on the contraceptive pill. Does anyone know how true this is? Do my symptoms sound like either of yours?
Continuing on from all my above comments, I have this horrible stitch like pain near my left ovary, and down into my groin. It's worst in the morning before I go to the toilet, but then it's there all day. Everytime I push to go to the toilet, cough or even walk it hurts.
Could this be a cyst, my schiatica coming through to the front, or my IBS (a serious problem with my bowel)?
I am really worried it is something bad, and if it's a cyst, that it could rupture, or if it's a blockage in my bowel, it could rupture (very dangerous).
Does anyone have any suggestions, PLEASE!!!!!!!
I have other problems (one being the month before last, I didn't get my period, and I thought I was pregnant. Pregnancy tests done were negative, and I got my next period, that finished about 4 days ago)
Because of other problems also, I have a gynecologist appointment on Friday, and right before that appointment, I am having a gynecological ultrasound done. I will mention this new problem to her.
I have read though, that it is not common to get a cyst if you are on the contraceptive pill. Does anyone know how true this is? Do my symptoms sound like either of yours?
Hello Lauraher
I suffer (to this very day) all my life with ovarian cysts, and while I am not polycystic, I have had several ruptures over the years. I started having ovarian cysts from the age of 14 and was put on the birth control pill to prevent ovulation because of the possibility of rupturing cysts. For 17 years I didn't have to worry about ruptures, but after I stopped taking the pill, my cysts came back with a vengeance and I endured a few minor ruptures. I have always had nausea when cysts were present, and I do believe even after the rupture I had nausea and I did certainly have pains afterwards. The thing is you may have more than one cysts and though one had ruptured, it can cause others to become inflamed or prone to rupture - like a chain reaction. My question to you would be, if you are not trying to conceive is it possible for you to take birth control so that you do not have to deal with the cysts or possibility of ruptures? Have you had any ultrasounds or have you been to the hospital for the ruptures? How did you learn about the recent rupture? (I had no idea I had a rupture when I had the first one happen, and an ultrasound was done to confirm fluid in the space.) After that, I learned quite quickly what the pains were, (from the cysts) and often I was able to tell if I was experiencing a rupture. The only thing to beware of in addition to needing medical assistance if a rupture is severe is that also have to be aware of the possibility of pregnancy or ectopic pregnancies. When you have persistent pain after a rupture, I would be worried about a possible pregnancy or Ectopic pregnancy. If this isn't a factor, then I am happy. But please make sure you seek medical advice on this issue, since there can be other complications that you could suffer as a result.
In addition to anything I have mentioned, please keep in mind, that while I or others may have extensive knowledge in many areas, you should always seek professional medical advice from your own physician, as it pertains to medical conditions or concerns.
Good luck, and if you have any other questions that I can help you with, please feel free to message me directly.
Sincerely,
Sandi (Dragon1973)
MedHelp Genetics Community Leader;
Down syndrome Community Leader & Ds Group Forum Founder/Moderator
I suffer (to this very day) all my life with ovarian cysts, and while I am not polycystic, I have had several ruptures over the years. I started having ovarian cysts from the age of 14 and was put on the birth control pill to prevent ovulation because of the possibility of rupturing cysts. For 17 years I didn't have to worry about ruptures, but after I stopped taking the pill, my cysts came back with a vengeance and I endured a few minor ruptures. I have always had nausea when cysts were present, and I do believe even after the rupture I had nausea and I did certainly have pains afterwards. The thing is you may have more than one cysts and though one had ruptured, it can cause others to become inflamed or prone to rupture - like a chain reaction. My question to you would be, if you are not trying to conceive is it possible for you to take birth control so that you do not have to deal with the cysts or possibility of ruptures? Have you had any ultrasounds or have you been to the hospital for the ruptures? How did you learn about the recent rupture? (I had no idea I had a rupture when I had the first one happen, and an ultrasound was done to confirm fluid in the space.) After that, I learned quite quickly what the pains were, (from the cysts) and often I was able to tell if I was experiencing a rupture. The only thing to beware of in addition to needing medical assistance if a rupture is severe is that also have to be aware of the possibility of pregnancy or ectopic pregnancies. When you have persistent pain after a rupture, I would be worried about a possible pregnancy or Ectopic pregnancy. If this isn't a factor, then I am happy. But please make sure you seek medical advice on this issue, since there can be other complications that you could suffer as a result.
In addition to anything I have mentioned, please keep in mind, that while I or others may have extensive knowledge in many areas, you should always seek professional medical advice from your own physician, as it pertains to medical conditions or concerns.
Good luck, and if you have any other questions that I can help you with, please feel free to message me directly.
Sincerely,
Sandi (Dragon1973)
MedHelp Genetics Community Leader;
Down syndrome Community Leader & Ds Group Forum Founder/Moderator
yes, i had this same problem about 5 years ago. You can still feel pain and nausea for a few days afterwards, and you might also have another one that is on the verge of rupturing. You should see your OBGYN. These can be dangerous.
I had an ovarian cyst rupture in december of 2008, I felt horrible for maybe 7 days after...although it turns out mine didnt completely rupture it was a slow leak which was leaking for a few days and needed surgery in the end.
How long ago did yours rupture??? I'd say give it a few days and if you still feel bad see your doctor just to check on things.
Good luck!!
How long ago did yours rupture??? I'd say give it a few days and if you still feel bad see your doctor just to check on things.
Good luck!!
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