I have had an MRI following your advice to see whether there would be a tear or damage concerning the colles fascia ,bucks fascia and alburgenia.
The report showed that there is no abnormalities in the pelvic floor.
no pelvic lymphadenopathy.no mass or cyst in pelvic side walls.
Did your MRI show up with any different results?
And if you ended up with the same MRI conclusion ,do want to share ideas on what next to do.
Thank you for your reply
What are your thoughts on nerve damage being involved?
Hey thanks for the info on the L-arginine. I tore the fascia where both groin muscles come through the pelvic area which has cause all kind of issues. I was also told my pelvic floor has dropped, both groin muscles are strained (permanently because of the torn fascia) and quite a few other things. Looking for any kind of relief. Been to many doctors and like many of you guys get turned away because we are challenging the doctors too much. I would love to find one person who knows more about these types of injuries.
Hi, I also have an injury similar to the discussion above, has caused for me significant shrinkage
in length (1 to 2 inches in length range, and initally girth as well) and urinary symptom of mild electric shock
feeling and extreme sensitivity to my glans (on head, making very difficult to thrust at any decent
speed during sex and hold off ejaculation). Came about after extreme scrotal swelling (at least 3X normal size) in beginning of
Sept. 2010, which I assume I caused by nicking upper scrotal sack on both sides on the underside
base at peno-scrotal junction, while trimming hairs there, next day swelling occurred and lasted
about 10 days. I used anti-fungal cream thinking it could be yeast or jock-itch, eventually swelling
subsided, was very itchy and painful, whole time penis was tightly contracted (couldnt see much shaft
from the base). Afterwards area from the base to 1 inch at least or deeper, all tissue feels very tight
and is also tight and painful to touch (but have to move sac out of the way). This tissue seems not to expand fully
decreasing my size, at first I was mortified and very puzzled. After researching "PE" (penis excercising,
enlargement, whatever your view) I tried jelquing excersice and in less then two weeks I felt the
tightness release, felt great, length & girth went back to normal size and other symptoms disappeared.
That only lasted about a week and it all retracted again, I was still jelquing for a month total and
after I stopped it retracted fully and all symptoms returned. Tried Jelquing again a month later
and had partial effect/release but not full, and length still a problem but girth since then seems more
or less Ok. Months later I used a stretching device I made that fit to the head shape near perfect to stop
head deformity while stretching long term (hours at a time), this worked great, in 10-12 days release
happened again and size was normal and syptoms were gone, so I stopped stretching. Only lasted a week
again and retracted again. Month later, tried device again and got same great results but had to stop
stretching due to very bad rash on penis. Once again after a week it all retracted back and symptoms
returned. Since then that device was warped (made from silicone caulking) and could not be used and
I failed at all attempts to recreate it, so I used other devices and methods to stretch with and with
very limited success in alleviating the tightness and symptoms.
Finally in Feb. of 2012 went to Uro doc
for help, he did usual checks but did nothing to investigate or treat actuall problem (he mainly a
viagra pusher), 2nd uro doc in Aug this year used scope to check for stricture (found none thankfully)
and then declared nothing more could offer me as patient, went to 3rd doc he waved white flag imm. and
reffered me to 4th doc who got me MRI; it showed nothing abnormal they say (I haven't seen it yet)
and now acting like there is no case when there definately still is. Anybody that thinks this condition is only in your
head is only thinking or saying that out of complete ignorance for the experience of the condition, it is most
definately real. I have tried massaging the tightened areas but so far this has not helped. I'm now
just beginning to try ultrasound (3 MHz) sonication to the area but cheap device we got seems very weak,
and not feeling very promising after two days. When the doc that did the cystoscopy filled my bladder with saline,
first gave me lidocaine solution by pushing it in urethra opening with syringe (sterile, no needle), the lidocaine lot
of it must have went into the bladder, when I peed out the saline I felt a distinct effect in the affected
area, like crackling of release (no noise) (or partial release, was pretty brief) I had felt several times
in the past when it all loosened (or at least partially at times). This I wonder may be effect of numbing
nerve that is affected in the area, I suspect now that it is pinched, trapped, misfiring dysfunction, causing
tissue to stay contracted, when I have released pressure from the nerve at least temporary release of tight
contraction (particularly erectile tissue in the area). If there is a fascial injury perhaps this is reason
that other muscled then re-contract causing nerve to be constricted again thus tightly contracting the
erectile tissues, and perhaps a fascial injury (maybe very slight) is too subtle to be seen/detected by MRI
or even sonography, though I would think sonography would be getting up closer scale imaging to the direct
area affected but perhaps resolution is not as good as MRI. In any event, seems like my next or even only
possible option is to try anasthetic for the nerve (like the lidocaine) or an anti-sposmadic or muscle
relaxant, but 2nd uro office declined to give me prescription for the lidocaine solution syringes (no needle),
or even where they get them nor did they recommend me to any other doctor that could help, only said they
would refer me to pain management place (which is retarded cause i dont need that, they only manage pain in
back and legs and joints anyway). If there is no chance of fascial repair (if that is the problem here)
without surgery, then if the drugs work may only be temporary fix, dont know that yet. 2nd uro doc also
gave me prescription for lidocaine (5%) patches, but they cannot penetrate to the effected tissue so they are
Anyways, I too have spent countless hours (well they are countable but i havnet counted) trying to figure this
out, and have since become much less ignorant of the underlying penile and surrounding physiology (havent
gotten any degree for that yet!) than I was before; especially since this is majorly affecting me physically
and mentally, very depressing to say the least, has put a serious strain on me and my wife's otherwise very strained
marriage already. I was for most part quite happy with my penis (size, function) before this happened
but definately not now, I sympathize strongly with anyone else affected with a similar condition. I have given up
a whole lot of faith in ever defeating it since now over two years and still in same basic condition, but I simply
not giving up , especially when definatley no where near all possibilities have been exhausted as yet to figure
it out or treat it, doctors sure give up easy because curing people or really finding causes for things is not
what their trained for and definately not what there corporate jobs are. If any one else has insight/experience
to share regarding a similar condition, I'd be glad to hear it.
I seem to have many of your same symptoms. I think it may have been caused by over-masturbation. Doctors seem to have no clue. Any updates lately?
Nothing has changed in my condition, but, my main "theory" if you will, is that the muscles affected are primarily the ischiocavernosus muscles (or IC) and the bulbocavernosus muscles (or BC) (there are 2 on each side left and right in the groin area behind or below ball sac). These muscles are skeletal muscles but they actually cover portions of the erectile tissue in the root or base of the penis. The IC covers what is known as the Crus of Penis (which is beginning of the corpus cavernosum chambers, top two erectile chambers made of smooth muscle that stays contracted partially when flaccid and relaxes and expands with blood when you get erect). The BC covers the corpus spongiosum (which is also smooth muscle and surrounds the urethra [pee tube]). My problem is that some porion of the smooth muscle of the erectile chambers in the base or root of my penis never basically relax or not fully and stay continually contracted, this causes some mild pain but mostly discomfort, and is the reason why I don't get to full length like before the injury. also the IC and BC muscles, I believe some of the tissue may also stay contracted continually and trigger points in the fascia somewhere near them developed also. I really don't know what is keeping it in that condition, nerve or muscle damage or both.
Hello, I would just like to bump this discussion. I am 22 years old and I have the exact same problem. Needless to say, I'm terrified and depressed. I could really use some reinforcement if anyone has any.
I just went to some Urologist today for the same issue. He said there's nothing that can be done + plus the fascia "feels" fine to him (IT'S NOT!). I asked for an MRI and he said my insurance wouldn't cover it because I don't need it. And he said an MRI wouldn't change anything because they'll only do surgery if my erect penis is deformed with Peyronie's disease. Then he gave me some Cialis and told me to take it every day (Mo $$$$ for him I guess) as if that would help the structural damage of my injury.
All I want to know is, How do I find a Urologist who will suture my torn fascia??? That's it. That's all.
Same symptoms here, Chinese, and saw a lot of doctors, all say nothing wrong...
And this linked to my back pain, harder to lift things than before, such a suffering,
you might consider using a laser pointer (5mWatts) which is what physiotherapists use to heal torn muscles and ligaments. ten minutes per day on the area, moving it here and there to cover an area the size of two quarters. I cannot see any precautions to do that, so you could ask a physiotherapist how they use laser for treatment, to be official about it. And red pointers are available at Staples. it is the exact frequency that physios use (631 nanometers as i recall) and the lower wattage is less taxing on your acupuncture points. If you upgrade to a 100 matt laser, it may heal you faster but it can cause congestion, and i have fabulous results healing torn muscles with a 5mW, so that is what I would be using. I am here trying to figure out what to do with a patient of mine.
back pain? if you have groin pain in the diagonal crease of the hip, then check out the sacroiliac joint. but if the pain is in the genitals, then one needs to look at nasty disc conditions. or, you could have two conditions at the same time...
have a boo at the comment i already left, some possible use for you there
see my comment earlier re lasers. they really speed up healing of torn fascias and are non invasive
Same issues here. Had an ultrasound not expecting anything conclusive. Any updates? Lets bump and keep trying to figure out a cure!
Do you know how long the pain lasts? I think this happened to me getting a cystoscopy but it was several months ago. I have not been at full strength since but still functioning normally until a few weeks ago when it really hit hard (no pun intended). I was waiting for my wife and noticed it was falling to the left. It's been downhill ever since. Have big dent 1/2" up shaft on Left side. Never noticed it but had noticed sharp pain in the head for months.
I have seen the urologist and he told me to rub vitamin E on it. Do i just make sure the little guy stays asleep? Every time he wakes up and makes me act frisky it hurts. On a 1-10 pain scale it's a good 7 when he's awake with wife stimulation it hurts for hours to days depending on how much of a workout he gets.
How long, if any length of a rest period would heal it enough for the pain to subside? I would like to try the pointer. Do you have to be careful, can you injure yourself? I think you said to move it around in a quarter size circle. Is that it?
Everyone comes here gives us the bad news, is there no light at the end of this tunnel? Would be nice to hear anything positive, thanks heatherdartmouth.
Anyone else that stumbles on this forum and have had success healing or any kind of improvement with this condition please drop us a note. I have heard some success with stretching devices. Sounds painful and probably something I could never invest 5-6 hours a day in.
Well I do plan on trying the laser pointer ( I don't think it will work because the muscles and or fascia could of healed improperly I hope I'm work though)
I don't see how a stretching device or a penile extender could provide any relief I don't even get erect with a penis pump and even being on Cialis my erections are still not like they used to be
personally I would like to know is it even possible to do surgery on the colles fascia? How would you test for torn perineal or colles fascia? and well of course how the hell do I get better
because sitting around waiting and going nothing did not work and neither did pelvic floor therapy
There is obviously some sort of abnormality and I believe like the OP says it is located in the perineum and or perineal region
for those of you who just heard a pop and only have problems with your penis I might look into untreated penile fracture or an issue with the penile suspensory ligament
I went ahead and bought a laser pointer from staples yesterday,
It says on the box
max output <5mW
wavelength 650m nm +10
I don't see the matts though when you were talking about the 100 matt laser
Hey guys just want to knkw that is there even a single person who was diagnosed by a doctor with torn superficial fascia?? Because i have read all forums and threads related to this but havent found a single person who was diagnosed with it. Everyone is self diagnosed.hey Medilook!! All these symptoms were told you by doctor or you have wrote by yourself because i am not able to find these on google or anywhere rather they are only on your thread and reading these are really depressing. I do have some like not getting enough blood to glans and flaccid penis feel numb,light and soft like nothing is there but reading these threads making it worse. I not having any urinary problems not even pain anywhere near my genital area. Just not able to get enough blood to my glan and flaccid penis symptoms is that mean i also have torn fascia or just my mind is playing with me because i am searching a lot about it on google.
I dont know if I have this tear but reading this makes me diagnose myself with this condition. When I kegal, blood does not fill up in penis when flaccid but I dont know if this is something new for me. Also when erect it seems the head doesnt fill up as much sometimes but I can kegal blood in there and only when I get super excited does head fill with blood. It seems erections are harder to come by these days and harder to keep erect when I have one. But again dont know if this is only from self inflicted erections which dont really excite me. When having sex it seems a lot better because mentally im not into it. I dont think I have a hard flaccid penis. Not sure what that even is but I would think I would know if I did. Sometimes it feels smaller and more retracted than other days. Dont know what dr I could go to to get a real diagnosis. Any suggestions?
I tried "Zhan Zhuang". It works for me
Good luck to find a good teacher
Guys, this can be healed by Parasympathetic System activation. Was suffering from the same injury for years and finally healed it myself. It usually takes about 7-10 minutes for your PNS to activate once the exercise is started but the more you do it, the better you get at it.
How to activate:
1. Lay down on your bed or couch
2. Start breathing deeply
3. The key to PNS activation is deep relaxation. The best way to achieve this is relaxing one body part at a time. Start with your left leg, in the calf, then move up to the thigh, then your
foot, sole of your foot, toes etc. When I say relax, I mean relax like you have never relaxed the leg before in your Life. Then relax it some more. Then move to the other leg, then your hip muscles, then perineum.
4. It is quite remarkable what happens on a molecular biology level. The more you relax, the more easier it is to relax. After about 7-10 minutes (might be quicker for some guys, might be longer) the relaxed areas will start to heat up in a pleasurable way. And the area(s) injured will start healing. Our body can't do this normally because our Sympathetic Nervous System is always activated throughout the day due to everyday activities. But once the PNS is activated properly, the SNS deactivates temporarily, initiating the healing process.
Keep practicing and doing this once a day and you will become a master at this and this horrible injury will finally heal. It only took about 2 weeks for mine to heal properly. For any further info feel free to Google Parasympathetic Nervous System activation for its benefits.
Wish you all the best guys!
Sorry guys, I meant "Parasympathetic Nervous System Activation".
All the best