UPDATE!!

[mysticalzoe]

Well everything came to head yesterday for me, my husband said this, that i was annoying him way too much, he likes to be alone, he says i know I am unhappy, and if I don't change soon, he doesn't want to ever be around me, hince he may want out of this marriage. He begged me to see a shrink, and told me he wants me to just talk with someone. I got angry and told him they don't help with anything, and blah blah blah! i did change the subject and went on to college talk, he thinks I'm going to make friends through college, I personally doubt it. I will tell him on Monday that I will see a shrink, but i will not be bringing up my past, i am sick of telling people about it, just about life. No medication, you're all in denial about medications though, it is a huge conspiracy. They make the side effects, so you take more and more medication, it's the way the government controls you, and you're all being controlled without knowing it. that's how I really feel. I told my husband that yesterday, and he said that's not true at all, and i was crazy, in a joking way, he said he was joking. I will not let him know that he won. The fact that it may ruin my marriage terrifies me to no end, and that would mean I would have no one. My family knows nothing about this, it's too embarrasing to let them know, so as far as they know i am a happy person! So, now i just need to get over the fear of calling people on the phone and call for an appointment, or i might make my husband do it, he brought it up. by the way I'm 28 years old.

[clinique_diva]

amen sister

[shedevil31]

We all have our own opinions, and we all wont agree thats for sure!
One thing is she needs to get help! whether this story is for real or not
I agree with blondie there are people on the internet who do make things up UNFORTUNATELY!
Also one thing for sure is SHE CAN ONLY HELP HERSELF
we can tell her lots of things but UNTIL SHE IS ready for help thats where it ends
I have a friend who suffers from bi-polar disease and IT IS frustrating to the family and friends around them.
SOMETIMES people need to hit ROCK BOTTOM before they realize they actually do need help
HOPEFULLY YOU DONT!]
ITS ALL UP TO YOU!!...YOU CAN DO IT!


One thing I dont understand is why do people think were in "HIGH SCHOOL" just because we all dont agree??
I have never been anywhere where everyone has agreed with everyone...I guess thats what makes the world go around
were all different!

[blondie72]

I am not starting anything here - I am just trying to make ppl aware that there are ppl out there who have nothing better to do than make up silly stories on the net.   I never said Jenni WAS a troll(@ least I don't remember it) and I NEVER said this one WAS a troll just saying it is possible.  I hope they are legit and if so they DO have my support and I hope they get help & ALL works out with them. I mean it seemed a little far fetched to me and then to see this person post "sane" advice to others just raised a little red flag.  No I do NOT know about mental illness I am NOT a dr.  Now let's just drop it for God's sake.   It is my OPINION!!!!!!!!!!!! I am now done with it!!!!!

[JoAnnaRF]

You forgot to mention that you were wrong about Jenni. She was NOT a troll. And I believe that you are wrong in this case as well. You took part in almost running Jenni off and now this poor lady. I think you are the one with an agenda to "start stuff", getting everybody all in a tizzy.
Just my OPINION.
--J

[JoAnnaRF]

The ladies that have said we cannot diagnose her absolutely right.. And I think we all are having some of the same ideas. Like I said in her other thread, my dad literally burned his own house down around him. We had NO idea he was ill. He refused to give his real name claiming there was a conspiracy against him and that his hospital room, the hall phone, and even his person was "bugged". I was left to take care of him and make absolutely SURE he ws taking his anti-psychotic meds as he was living with me and my children after being released into my custody by his Psychologist and the State. Now, on medication, he is fine. Lives on his own and is a productive member of society. Before meds, he was a danger to himself and others. The meds have saved his life. He was dx'd with severe Bi-Polar disorder at the age of 53. No one here is getting mad at you because you are against meds. We just recognize the fact that it is actually another symptom of an undiagnosed illness. Going to therapy because your husband threatened to leave isn't going to be affective if you don't put your heart into the idea of getting better. An alcoholic can't seek treatment and stay clean for others. It has to be for him or herself. In your case, if you can't do it for yourself, then please think of your children.

And kjsk-- It is so sad that you feel like an outsider with some of the posters and the cliques. Me, I just jump in wherever I think I can help, and could care less what anyone thinks. I played that game in high school, and I am WAY too old to play games now.LOL You have ALWAYS had insightful information and been a great help to me and others. You are very appreciated and don't let anyone keep you from lending what I have found to be a very educated opinion.
*hugs* JoAnna

[orchiola]

Try to think it through, would you need more time or space, sometimes being alone clears your mind. Ultimatum your dh gave you is harsh, but consider to take his side & then simply decide whether he is the right person to understand you or your needs. Do not let anyone make the decisions for you,it can be done by yourself solely. to be honest, there is no such med that can cure anyone, its just there to release the sympthoms... your own power, beliefs will take it to the next level. Good luck!

[AndiJ.78]

I definitely think that what you need cannot be offered via the internet. Not even the professional on the Mental Health forum can offer you the type of assistance and attention you need.

Please, please, please, seek out professional help in person. If you need your husband to make the call for you, have him do it. You are demonstrating seroius s/s of mental illness and this warrants further evaluation by a mental health professional.

No one on here can offer you a diagnosis or treatment plan. No ones personal experience can make this any better for you.

Again, you need to seek professional help and I also think it may be a good idea to let your family in on this.

Andi

[mslkpage]

I'm sorry...who is Brenda?  Did I miss something?

[cutiemama]

It doesn't really sound like you want any real sound advice here. If my dh weren't on med for anxiety and depression, I'm sure our marriage would have ended years ago. If he weren't on meds for migraines, he wouldn't be able to function, etc. I need not go on. Generations ago people with mental health problems were institutuionalized until the development of these incredible drugs that let millions of people function normally in theor daily lives.

You really need to find a good psychiatrist who will put you on the right stuff. You seem to suffer from paranoia if you think pharmaceuticals are a gov't conspiracy of some sort.

[greenpixie]

I don't think anyone here is mad at you.  I think the reason people keep bringing up meds is b/c the fact is that many people do need them.  There is such a large variety of mental illnesses.  Yes, sometimes therapy is enough to help.  However, there are often more serious conditions (OCD, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, severe depression, to name a few) that therapy is just not enough.  There are tons of studies that show that patients with bipolar disorder are less likely to become suicidal when they take their meds appropriately.  I can understand your resistance toward them.  I don't share your belief that there is a government conspiracy about them, but I do think we are sometimes too quick to try drugs instead of really treating the problem.  Having said that, I think most people offering advice here want you to at least be open to the possibilty that you may need to be on medication.  The first thing to do is to see a therapist.  You can tell your therapist how you feel about medication and a good therapist will try to help you without trying to put you on meds right away.  Just be open to the fact that eventually, medication may be recommended for you.  Ultimately it is your decision.  No one can force you.  I hope that at you at least make the decision to see a therapist. Startin is the hardest part.

[blondie72]

THIS IS NOT TO BE RUDE BUT - I again don't personally think this is for real.  I have seen it many times on this forum (mostly maternal/child which is where I started).  People come on here with outrageous stories and then get all mad and defensive at ppl for NOT going with what they say.  Why start the fight???  So you do NOT think the meds are right for YOU and maybe they were not but there is NO NEED to come on here and ask why everyone is getting so P***Y (and besides isn't that swearing???)  I am sorry I feel this way but like I have said 2 yrs is a long time to be on a board.  You do learn a thing or two.  Also like I always say if this really is a legitmate post I do apologize and I really hope you get the help you need.  Good Luck to you.

[dandeelyon]

I believe this post is real.  This combined with another post sounds very plausible.  If you were truly concerned about keeping a peaceful environment and "not being rude", you would have kept you opinion to yourself and contacted the administrator.  That is not difficult to do.  You are quick to judge and very brass with your opinions.  Maybe after two years it's time for you to take a break.  I know I personally could really care less about any advice you have to give and will skip over anything you say from now on.

You clearly have no understanding of mental illness.  This woman has very clear signs.  I could probably guess the diagnosis but that is not my place to do it.  She needs help not your nasty opinion.

[cugirl]

You are refusing meds because the ones you tried did not work for you, there are many others out there that you have not tried.  As for the pharmacutical companies being against you and they just try to make things so that you will have to take more meds upon the meds you are already taking...that is untrue.  I work in a pharmacy and if we see someone that is taking alot of meds we try to work with the doctors and narrow down the amount of meds the person is taking.  So your preaching to the wrong one about everybody being against you.  I also am going to pharmacy school and know of many cases where meds have helped or often saved lives.

[oceans3]

she clearly meant blondie not brenda. it was an error NOT worth mentioning and i am getting to the point where i am tired of hearing the same people post in a negative, sarcastic, accusatory manner. the womans forum really did not used to be this way and that is why i am uncomfortable posting in the maternal forum. i have had at least 4 questions of my own and wanted to post to help others over there as well. i am just not comfortable at all and feel as if i am intruding. now, many of  you are posting here sending negative vibes,short answers, smart ass posts and its not becoming. just SKIP OVER THE POST if you feel its not legit. so what if it isnt. even so, its clear the person needs some sort of contact, reassurance, why not provide it for a bit? ligit or not and move on. i believe her story to be real too. how can it not be? she has many signs of mental illness and seriously, who wants help when they realize they have a problem? thats the hardest part. this is common and those are signs.

[clinique_diva]

yikes, that was pretty harsh and uncalled for.nobody needs to take any breaks, come on we are all adults,no need to get in a huff over someone who obviously doesnt want to take anyones advice.

she took the first step by comming here, now she needs to take the second step and get help for herself,sooner rather than later, someone mentioned it was only $5.00 to post on the mental health board, why dont we all pony up the money or maybe medhelp can cut the woman some slack,and let her post free of charge. i understand were she's coming from, i myself dread talking on the phone,especially about some serious issues,she needs to think about her kids, dont let them grow up without a mommy.

[mslkpage]

Nope, actually...I thought I missed something. Damn. Sorry- I'm actually rooting for Zoe. And I wondered if 'Brenda' was from some other post. Sorry for the damn mistake. I won't comment next time, okay???

[qw]

Thank you ladies for speaking up. That is why I stopped posting in the maternal/child section long ago.

[blondie72]

Ok - If you read the beginning of my post I said "THIS IS NOT MEANT TO BE RUDE" and also if you read the end of my post I said "I AM SORRY IF THIS IS LEGIT AND I DO HOPE YOU GET THE HELP YOU NEED GOOD LUCK"  I will ALWAYS try to give helpful advice where I can.  Yes I said the same things about Jenni's posts not believing they were real.  It is MY OPINION!!!!!  I also tell these ppl I wish them luck if in fact it is legit.  I have NOT been rude here for a long time.  I just want to make ppl aware that there are in fact TROLLS out there and we did have one a couple yrs ago that has hurt the trust of a lot of ppl here.  You can all be angry at me if you want it is your opinion and your right.  I just have to defend myself though.  I DO enjoy this board and I will help where I can and I do hope this person is going to get the help they need and not just someone trying to start something here that's all.  Take Care everyone.

[dandeelyon]

I don't think anyone is mad at you for being opposed to taking meds.  Meds do help if given correctly.  I was against them too when I was younger.  Each person is different.  I cannot take Effexor, makes me absolutely insane, Lexapro does little for me.  I don't have Seratonin issues, that is why the Wellbutrin works.

That being said, you have some serious mental issues.  You know that and we know that.  You need help.  You will lose your family if you do not get that help.  

Again, I hope you will go get the help you deserve.

[clinique_diva]

everyone has there OWN opinions.....what would you like everyone to tell you??????you WONT take any meds,you MIGHT go to therapy. everyone has given you great advice, but obviously you dont want to take it.go over to the mental health board and post your question, if you are so afraid to talk to someone over the phone, you can do it in the comfort of your own home, maybe you will listen if the advice comes from a doctor, but then again he could be in on it too!!! i would like to know where your children are during your episodes? i have 2 small children,i'm a stay at home mom,i dont have time to feel lonely. for the sake of your children and your family, get some help!!!!

[mysticalzoe]

The only thing i have to say is why is everyone getting all pissy with the meds, it's how i feel about them, they never worked for me, the psychological ones anyone, those are the ones I am referring to. I am on meds for GERD, and right now I shingles, i am on two anitbiotics for those. No need to get mad about it!

[tresmathews]

Sorry I am going to be blunt....My Dh is OCD and bi-polar. He had to try various meds before he found the right one. Not sure if you know but you have to take them correctly for at least a month for anything to fully work.n There is no government conspiracy with meds. They are created to help people.

You need help, period. To me is sounds like you an undiagnosed mental conditon that if you do not get it properly treated you will lose your family and friends and possibaly your own life.

[dandeelyon]

The meds have also really worked well for me as well.  I'm on them now.  The second miscarriage in September pretty much destroyed me.  I couldn't function.  I had two children and husband who needed me and I was physically and mentally incapable of taking care of them.  I'm on Wellbutrin and go to counseling.  My husband and I are also in marriage counseling.  I know you mentioned you had libido issues and weight gain on Wellbutrin but those are not the typical side effects for that med.  Generally there is an increase in libido as well as weight loss.  Each individual is different though.  Sometimes a combination of medication is needed.

As far as a psychologist.  Talking to someone can definately help if you want it to.  If you go in with the attitude you have, it's going to do nothing but waste your money.  Hopefully you'll be able to grow to trust the person you are speaking with.  Letting go of your past, or at least growing to accept it as what it is and being able to move on, will definately help you be a more productive adult.  I am sure of this.

Good luck.  I hope you are able to allow yourself the help you need.

[mslkpage]

I am really glad you changed your mind about the counselor. Sometimes, you have to try a few out before you find the one that you're most comfortable with, but stay with it, okay? If you're adament about the meds issue, that's alright. They worked for me at a time when I really needed them, and I had no problems stopping them. Your experience with meds was not good, and that's why you feel the way you do about them. Good luck with the counseling- please try to stay with it even if it starts getting tough. And let us know how you've been doing.