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miscarriage and delayed ovulation
Can anyone offer advice about this? I m/c early on 5/30 (about 6 weeks preg) and then again 7/6 (about 2 weeks preg). I was told to wait by some but I also was concered about waiting b/c of my age - 36 years old and increased risks for being older and trying to get pregnant. Then, I waited one cycle after the 2nd miscarriage thinking maybe I should have waited but I didn't before. Throughtout all this, my cycle has been regular -28 days with ovulation midcycle, but this month after having waiting thru one cycle before, I ovulated late - around day 25 and I still have not gotten my period yet, though it was expected now based on when I last got my period. I don't know if my cycle is messed up from previous m/c's even though it was regular despite those and I had a normal period last month when I waited. Plus, I now am trying again to get pregnant again, but worry if I shouldn't have given this delayed ovulation. I don't know if delayed ovulation is bad, normal variability given the recent m/c, and if I should or shouldn't try to get pregnant during this delayed ovulation? Thanks for any advice.
I have never written on one of these blog pages before, but have read loads. My heart goes out to you all who have lost babies and are trying. I dont know whether having one and then having problems having another is worse than not having any at all. I have a perfect 5 year old daughter and have miscarried twice since having her. She would also love a brother or sister and we have imaginery sisters and brothers to play with :(. I am now nearly 40 and have waited 3 months for another session at the fertility clinic. Had the same tests I had last year at the doctors which has taken 18 months for them to be done twice and wonder why it takes so long. Anyway, hopefully we will know the results and the next step tomorrow. I should have ovulated today but havent and wondering if its the stress of tomorrow. I will say one thing though, having a baby has been my sole priority for 2 years now, not planning holidays, not keeping fit as I didnt want to harm the baby if I did become pregnant, Then I had a letter 5 days before Christmas, saying my husband as been seeing another women. My life fell apart and since then we have been trying to get over this as he denined it. I have realised that I have not been there for him through these times also. We never talked about the miscarriages either, and all I say even though you might all be thinking how soft I am, is that dont put everything on hold as you might lose something in your life that is so special and real.
Good luck to you all
Good luck to you all
Dear Future Mums-to-be!
Just read all of your comments for the past week. Firstly, let me just say how sorry I am for all of you having had to experience both the emotional and physical pain of a Miscarriage (M/C). I was and am still surprised to learn that 1 in 5 pregnancies end in M/C. (and millions more unconfirmed as well). But am reassured that you are just as likely to get pregnant after 1 miscarriage as if you hadn't had one. I am trying for a 2nd child now, but am slightly worried after having a cesearean in 2004. I too had a M/C on the 25th May. I wasn't far gone, about 5 and half weeks. In fact, my Doctor couldn't confirm it. I got 6 positive results from different home pregnancy kits (inc. digital clearblue) over a period of a week and a half, and still their second test was negative. I was going mad at the time, but now realise that that was telling me something wasn't right. I was about 2 weeks late, had all the symptoms (swollen breasts, nausea, fatigue, and could smell anything a mile away! - I didn't need them to confirm anything, I'm sure you'll agree - you know when your pregnant!.) Anyway, I was told to wait 1 natural period. This took 6 weeks to come!. My cycle was a regular 32 day cycle. However, for the last 3 cycles I have had 4/5 days of spotting, then heavy flow for another 5/6 days. Its been really confusing because since my cycle got messed up, I've not been sure what day counts as cycle day 1. I had read that full heavy flow is Day 1, so because I track my BBT and I use ovulation Test kits, I made certain I tested everyday from mid month. I got 9 negative digital ovulation tests, and then gave up for the month. A few days later, I came on. It seems I had misjudged my cycle length. So I must have ovulated atleast a week before I started testing (how frustrating!). This month, I'm counting Day 1 as when I started spotting. So hopefully I will detect my LH surge. My only concern is that it may take 2 weeks of testing because I'm not sure what my luteal phase is. When I conceived my son, it was using a first response ovulation kit, and I ovulated on day 21 of my cycle, so now I'm not sure. What makes it harder now is because of the M/C in May, I feel like my body doesn't know what going on. I did go for an internal check up (I insisted) They looked at my ovaries and told me there were loads of follicles, and I looked extremly fertile. I just worry about this M/C possibly stopping my ovulation. Can you still have a regular periods on time, but not ovulate? (I think all those negative ovulation tests have got me a bit worried) Silly me can't even look at my BBT graphs because I tend to have a couple of wines in the evening (especially if I have PMS) and this can make the results inaccurate/misleading. Anyway, this month I'm on a mission, I've armed myself with more test kits, I'm going to try and cut down on the wine. I've already started the folic acid again. And lets face it - I suppose a few early nights wouldn't go a miss!!! Fingers crossed it will happen. I don't know whether you would agree with me, but since having known I was pregnant, I don't feel quite right until I am again. I'm getting so broody! I wish you all well and all the luck in the world for your future little babies. And don't despair, it took me nearly a year to conceive baby number 1.
Michelle x
Mum to Benjamin.
Just read all of your comments for the past week. Firstly, let me just say how sorry I am for all of you having had to experience both the emotional and physical pain of a Miscarriage (M/C). I was and am still surprised to learn that 1 in 5 pregnancies end in M/C. (and millions more unconfirmed as well). But am reassured that you are just as likely to get pregnant after 1 miscarriage as if you hadn't had one. I am trying for a 2nd child now, but am slightly worried after having a cesearean in 2004. I too had a M/C on the 25th May. I wasn't far gone, about 5 and half weeks. In fact, my Doctor couldn't confirm it. I got 6 positive results from different home pregnancy kits (inc. digital clearblue) over a period of a week and a half, and still their second test was negative. I was going mad at the time, but now realise that that was telling me something wasn't right. I was about 2 weeks late, had all the symptoms (swollen breasts, nausea, fatigue, and could smell anything a mile away! - I didn't need them to confirm anything, I'm sure you'll agree - you know when your pregnant!.) Anyway, I was told to wait 1 natural period. This took 6 weeks to come!. My cycle was a regular 32 day cycle. However, for the last 3 cycles I have had 4/5 days of spotting, then heavy flow for another 5/6 days. Its been really confusing because since my cycle got messed up, I've not been sure what day counts as cycle day 1. I had read that full heavy flow is Day 1, so because I track my BBT and I use ovulation Test kits, I made certain I tested everyday from mid month. I got 9 negative digital ovulation tests, and then gave up for the month. A few days later, I came on. It seems I had misjudged my cycle length. So I must have ovulated atleast a week before I started testing (how frustrating!). This month, I'm counting Day 1 as when I started spotting. So hopefully I will detect my LH surge. My only concern is that it may take 2 weeks of testing because I'm not sure what my luteal phase is. When I conceived my son, it was using a first response ovulation kit, and I ovulated on day 21 of my cycle, so now I'm not sure. What makes it harder now is because of the M/C in May, I feel like my body doesn't know what going on. I did go for an internal check up (I insisted) They looked at my ovaries and told me there were loads of follicles, and I looked extremly fertile. I just worry about this M/C possibly stopping my ovulation. Can you still have a regular periods on time, but not ovulate? (I think all those negative ovulation tests have got me a bit worried) Silly me can't even look at my BBT graphs because I tend to have a couple of wines in the evening (especially if I have PMS) and this can make the results inaccurate/misleading. Anyway, this month I'm on a mission, I've armed myself with more test kits, I'm going to try and cut down on the wine. I've already started the folic acid again. And lets face it - I suppose a few early nights wouldn't go a miss!!! Fingers crossed it will happen. I don't know whether you would agree with me, but since having known I was pregnant, I don't feel quite right until I am again. I'm getting so broody! I wish you all well and all the luck in the world for your future little babies. And don't despair, it took me nearly a year to conceive baby number 1.
Michelle x
Mum to Benjamin.
Oh, I forgot to add that the Clomid is meant to "jump start" ovulation for me since I mostlikely stopped ovulating due to the m/c (that's what the N.P. told me). I was ovulating on my own prior to my preg. But so far, Clomid hasn't worked. The N.P. can't understand why it's not working for me. I also just read that even with Clomid alone and if everything else is functioning normal (meaning I do ovuluate and my progesterone level is over 15 and my hubby's S/A is normal), someone at my age only has a slight chance of getting preg per month anyhow. If you can avoid Clomid at any cost, I suggest you do it cuz it makes you feel very unpleasant. The side-effects involved are horrendous to endure, if you do get side-effects. I don't know if I will make it to my 6 month limit, I'm ready to stop taking it. I am concerned about Clomid raising my chances of another m/c, too. I think you're doing the right thing by trying the "natural" way. Good luck!
mb2006, I was put on Clomid because when we started to ttc#1 again, I wasn't ovulating (according to the OPK's; they would never turn dark pink like it did the month I did get preg). So, the N.P. thought it was the best 1st step to take before going into more serious fertility treatments. Clomid is mainly for ovulation issues but supposedly, it helps to raise your progesterone levels after O, too (which is my reason for m/c'ing the first time). Yes, there is a 10% chance of multiple preg w/ Clomid but my hubby and I didn't care since I'm not getting any younger and he really wants one or two kids anyhow. Since neither one of us have multiple births in our family history, the most that can happen would be twins. My N.P. also put me on daily baby aspirin (I'm wondering what the long term affect would be on this - I've been on it since March). She says it's for menstration blood clots (I've noticed that I've gotten more of that since I turned 34 y/o) and it also helps the blood flow to the baby if I do get preg because evidently, blood clots to the fetus can also cause m/c.
I think it's wonderful that you keep such great track of your fertility! I've never paid more attention till (unfortunately) I had my m/c. I've also noticed since my miscarriage how callus some Dr's are about m/c's. I had questioned them about why they didn't test my progesterone level ever during my 8 week preg since it obviously was necessary to sustain a preg and also it's easily remedied with progesterone pills! They said the first preg is treated as a "given" if you m/c. They don't really monitor it unless you've had 3 or more m/c's. That is soooo WRONG! Every preg should be treated with respect. It's like if you don't ask or demand the right treatments/tests, you don't get it. And with my first preg, I just didn't know any better or the right things/tests to demand but if I ever get preg again, they'd better watch out! I'm glad you're not settling for the typical answers the Dr's office gives you. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you on this 3rd try! May you have a successful pregnancy! Good luck!
I think it's wonderful that you keep such great track of your fertility! I've never paid more attention till (unfortunately) I had my m/c. I've also noticed since my miscarriage how callus some Dr's are about m/c's. I had questioned them about why they didn't test my progesterone level ever during my 8 week preg since it obviously was necessary to sustain a preg and also it's easily remedied with progesterone pills! They said the first preg is treated as a "given" if you m/c. They don't really monitor it unless you've had 3 or more m/c's. That is soooo WRONG! Every preg should be treated with respect. It's like if you don't ask or demand the right treatments/tests, you don't get it. And with my first preg, I just didn't know any better or the right things/tests to demand but if I ever get preg again, they'd better watch out! I'm glad you're not settling for the typical answers the Dr's office gives you. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you on this 3rd try! May you have a successful pregnancy! Good luck!
Ok. Thanks a lot for the info, Jessa. Sounds like we both are going through frustrating situations with the medical issues but also dealing with the medical people. I've been given such different info from different doctors, the midiwfe, etc about how long to wait ttc after a m/c, risks, treatment or lack of (like some saying take the progesterone but others saying no way), that it's left me thinking much of this field is unknown or unclear. I didn't know you can stop or miss a month of ovulating from a m/c, so maybe that was the impact on my delayed ovulation this month. Good luck to you too and keep me updated what happens for you and your husband! I know what you mean about single vs double births. I'm 36 and ideally want 2 children, so having twins wouldn't be horrible for that reason!
Thanks everyone for your comments. Jessa37 - why did they give you Clomid - b/c you stopped ovulating? I thought it was for fertility problems in terms of problems becoming pregnant. My OB recently mentioned it to me, but I thought if I get pregnant ok but m/c then what's the point in taking it and also then risks of multiple babies taking Clomid?
As for me, yes I've been tracking everything with at-home ovulation and pregnancy tests, and blood work for hcg levels at the doctors when pregnant to know if m/c or not. My OB was upset that I knew I m/c the 2nd time instead to avoid feeling sad again, but b/c I was tracking things and I felt nauseous right away both times of pregnancy, I knew I was pregnant. I took home preg test and it was positive, though the OB was surprised the test was so sensitive to a low hcg level. Anyway, some people might not want all this info for themselves, but I've been keeping a calendar and tracking with these at home tests to help me do something even if it's not working as planned now having had a 2nd m/c. I did go ahead with ttc again this month despite delayed ovulation, so we'll see what happens. I also had blood work done, although usually they wait until you have 3 m/c, but I am eager being 36 years old, but so far the cause is not clear. I did start taking baby aspirin for some possible abnormal blood results re: blood clotting disorders but it wasn't 100% clear and I never had clotting problems before. I also got a prescription for progesterone but didn't take it, b/c I read and was told by another doctor that it's not necessarily helpful and would only make me feel sick and my level when not pregnant was not low, so I didn't do it this month. Thanks again.
As for me, yes I've been tracking everything with at-home ovulation and pregnancy tests, and blood work for hcg levels at the doctors when pregnant to know if m/c or not. My OB was upset that I knew I m/c the 2nd time instead to avoid feeling sad again, but b/c I was tracking things and I felt nauseous right away both times of pregnancy, I knew I was pregnant. I took home preg test and it was positive, though the OB was surprised the test was so sensitive to a low hcg level. Anyway, some people might not want all this info for themselves, but I've been keeping a calendar and tracking with these at home tests to help me do something even if it's not working as planned now having had a 2nd m/c. I did go ahead with ttc again this month despite delayed ovulation, so we'll see what happens. I also had blood work done, although usually they wait until you have 3 m/c, but I am eager being 36 years old, but so far the cause is not clear. I did start taking baby aspirin for some possible abnormal blood results re: blood clotting disorders but it wasn't 100% clear and I never had clotting problems before. I also got a prescription for progesterone but didn't take it, b/c I read and was told by another doctor that it's not necessarily helpful and would only make me feel sick and my level when not pregnant was not low, so I didn't do it this month. Thanks again.
First off, I want to give you my condolences on your losses. I had m/c'd last year in Sept at 8 wks (after trying for 3 yrs to get pregnant). I was also 36 yrs old then (now I'm 37). I was also told to wait till after 1 or 2 "normal" periods before ttc again. I did what they said and when I wanted to try again, I ran into ovuluation problems. I didn't ovulate for 5 months after I started to ttc again. I was told that your body (it may depend on your age) will need time to re-adjust itself back to "normal". For some people, it could take a year. But I knew I didn't have a year to spare. I, too, am concerned about time flying by and I'm still ttc#1. Since you had a "normal" period the month before, if you're worried maybe you can wait till you get another normal to try again. In the meantime, are you using OPK's or BBT to check for your LH Surge (for Ovulation)? I'm currently on Clomid (the N.P. thought it would "jump start" me) and have been on it since March (2 months on it and took 2 months off and just now got back on it for the 4th try) and so far, it's not working. Right now, I'm on my 2WW and I get to start testing for PG in a couple of days. I wish you luck in getting PG again. Don't lose hope! Hang in there!
Did you know that you were preg? the 2nd MC at 2 week, My doc, told me that it could only go on record as a MC if it was confirmed, and i have been having problems withthis because i believe that i could have possible mc several times aside form the one that was confirmed, but i had no way of knowing that i was preg yet, until i felt the horrific pain and bleeding associated with mc, by then too late. Anyhow, i was told after my m/c in Dec. to wait for a regular period befor trying again, i did not have a period until Feb, and my cycles have always been irreg. Are you keeping a calendar?
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