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Day 20. Tramadol. Seems the more ya know, the more horrified you become.

Jul 09, 2008 - 13 comments
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http://www.baillement.com/tramadol-withdrawal.html

The use of tramadol over more than 1 year, as in our patient, eventually may have resulted in a build up of the active metabolite M1 in peripheral tissue sites such as skin, muscles, fat and connecting tissue, which do not participate in the mediation of effects but in fact may act as a reservoir. This assumption is corroborated by forensic data where tramadol was involved in an overdose fatality (Moore et al., 1999), suggesting that a build-up of tramadol and/or its metabolite within peripheral tissues following long-term use does occur.

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Here's me with my mouth open; aghast and horrified!

This is Day 20 off Tramadol. I woke up with horrible intestinal pain and managed to get back to sleep. Thank goodness or I would be fried the rest of the day.

I've also read that Tradamol CAUSES neuropathy as a side effect!

*insert scream here*


This message today from an understanding friend;

"I think with the bad stuff you read about tramadol, you're just getting confirmation that the gruelling withdrawal is worth it - it ***** when there's no undoing the past and the present is painful, but at least it means the future will be better, you know?  I'm sure there will be a giant class-action suit if there's not now, as well there should be."

Thank GOD for good friends who understand

I look bad today. Particularly bad.

Ok ... onward. Day 20 is not so good, but it could turn around at any minute. This has been my experience and I am stickin' to it!

I also found THIS;


Tramadol Hydrochloride orally disintegrating tablets is a centrally acting analgesic in an orally disintegrating formulation using a tablet formulation base. The chemical name for tramadol hydrochloride is (±) cis -2-[(dimethylamino)methyl]-1-(3-methoxyphenyl) cyclohexanol hydrochloride. Its structural formula is:



Tramadol Hydrochloride is supplied as orally disintegrating tablets containing 50 mg of tramadol hydrochloride for oral administration.

Tramadol hydrochloride is a white, bitter, crystalline and odorless powder. It is readily soluble in water and ethanol and has a pKa of 9.41. The n-octanol/water log partition coefficient (logP) is 1.35 at pH 7.

The tablets are white in color and contain the inactive ingredients aspartame, copovidone, crospovidone, ethylcellulose, magnesium stearate, mannitol, mint flavor, and silicon dioxide.

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There is ASPARTAME in it? I have a huge adverse reaction to aspartame. I can't even believe that is in there. *mumble mumble mumble mumble*


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by wyattw, Jul 11, 2008
wow i had no clue tramadol was so harmful, i was on it for about 6 months pretty heavily, it'll definitely make me think twice before taking it again.

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by EmilyPost, Jul 11, 2008
Hey Friend! Hi Wyatt!

So what's going on with your health that you've been on some of these pills? Are you treating some kind of physical pain or emotional/ psychological pain?

Um, yeah, I'd rather come off morphiene, codeine, vicodin, any of the muscle relaxants, anything but tramadol. It's been horrrrible! It pretty much wasted 3-4 years of my life.It was just making my pain worse.I had no idea,until I decided to stop. The Doctors all toldme it was safe and no withdrawal. Yeah Ok. In my meanermoments I just want THEM to have to take it and then withdraw!

Today's been halfway good! Thanks to some carrot juice, some excedrin migraine, a bunch of fruit, salmon, b-12 sublinguals and lots of positive self talk.

I have taken Soma also.  Soma actually works better for me than most of the muscle relaxants, but then, it turns on you; as you know!

(((((Wyatt)))) Thank you for your comment and yeah, stay away from the freakity frackity tramadol!

Emily

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by harmony1111, Sep 24, 2008
I am new to this site.  I am currently trying to taper off tramadol and it is hellish.  I have been on it for about 10 years now, 10 years wasted as far as I'm concerned!  I am only taking a total of 100 mg per day and have been for the past 3 years.  The problem is that obviously my body built up a tolerance to it and it stopped helping with pain a very long time ago.  But I know how awful I feel when I don't have it-those times when my prescription ran out and I have been so afraid to go off it for good.  But for the past year my energy has been totally zapped, all I want to do is sleep, I have had major digestive issues, and my head feels cloudy all the time.  I had no idea how bad this drug is.  And I am too ashamed to share what I'm going through with the people close to me, other than my husband.  So I am here, reaching for some support from those who have been in my shoes.  I am so scared and I want to be free from this drug so bad and regain my health and vitality again.

I am taking Lunesta so I think the night time won't be so bad, but the day has been so hard.  And I only started 3 days ago!  And I have only stepped down about 30mg from the 100.  I have a horrible headache and I am an emotional wreck.  Does it really get easier???

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by Louie659, Sep 24, 2008
Hey Harmony , I was in your shoes 3 months ago. I took tramadol for 6 years. And yes I abused it too. How can you not? You build up a tolerance so you take more. I have fibromyalgia and possibly MS. I stopped cold turkey which please don't do. Talk to your doctor, so they can help. I had 4 days and nites of hell. I thought I was going to die. But I too was ashamed and didn't want anyone to know. Please ask for help. It will make it easier for you,and if I can help in any way I will give you my phone number to call me. It sounds like we have alot in common. It does get easier, I will wait for you response

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by EmilyPost, Sep 24, 2008
Harmony!

I promise promise promise promise it gets better! You're doing a good taper, you'll be fine! But it's gonna take awhile. Once you stop taking it, it will also take awhile but you'll regain what you don't even remember you lost. Vitality and health; YES! It's good that you ar

It gets better, it does!! It does! You'll get your life back. 3 years is a long time to be in a kind of still taking it but going thru withdrawal and it's no longer effective state of being.

I'm going to tell you what helped me get off and stay off. That is that the attitude if fear is useless when it comes to this process. It's ok to be scared, but a better and stronger place to come from is one of anger. Anger at the fact that you really didn't know what you were taking. That you became dependant on a drug that supposedly does NOT ever make you dependant and also claims it is not addictive. It's pretty annoying and I adopted an attitude of all out war on Tramadol.

It helped me.

Fact is, no one gets Seizures while tapering or even withdrawing. They get it when they are ON the Tramadol.

So you are safe. Despite the fear, which is a natural side effect of tramadol withdrawal. You are going to have some icky days; but there's icky days in life anyhow. I'd RATHER live em sober. The Tramadol was starting to kill me in more ways than one. So I chose to kill it!

I want you to know you are not alone! Please read the whole journal if you can, it has ALOT of nice tios and alot of people showing how it is done! And yes, withdrawal felt like I was going to die. Ceratinly. And not only did I not die ... I am now VERY ALIVE and VERY happy! :D

Love and Healing,
Emily


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by JSBM, Sep 28, 2008
Hey Harmony,I was there too,on them 6years also, and this site, and these people are so supportive.Emily is an inspiration.I want you to know that getting my memory back was the biggest accomplishment.I thought I was Dumb.You are right about the effects.I didn't get the withdrawls as bad as some here although I went through them when I didn't know there were withdrawls when I didn't refill. ,but being off them is Great it is a useless drug.I have quit for 1 month and a half or so .The Doc has tried to get me do them again ,but I just tell him they are making me sick  that I get side effects.He can't ethically prescribe something that makes you ill.Don't let them try to change your mind you are doing Great!

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by Dancer16571, May 24, 2009
Please help me to understand the whole drug use you all have gone through. How much have you taken in a day? how long have you taken the drug? Why was it perscribed for you, if it was for pain how is your pain now that you are off the drug? How did you titrate down? I am not sure why I keep wanting to refill my rx I know I have pain but each time I try to stop the drug I feel the pain and discomfort I had before and it actually seems to be worse than before, I am confused is it because of withdraw that the pain feels worse or is it fact?

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by hoglover, Oct 19, 2009
Hello All,

I have not posted in a couple of months.  I am at 6 tram a day and chickensh** to taper down but I am going to try to go down one pill a week.  This means 5 a day will be coming up soon enough.  Reading the post of Harmony is pretty scary. That hard to get off of one pill a day???  Horrifying.  The really horrible part for me is that I have been sober off all other drugs (including alcohol) for many years and now, because of some idiotic decisions I made, I am addicted to tram for the last two  years.  I can't tell anyone except my husband.  I simply cannot face being told I am in my first 30 days again.  Why not just give up and drink?  I really need to step up and go through the process.  I have been putting it off for months now.  I keep saying, well, I'll get through this first and then i'll start tapering down.  This has been going on for months.  But It's really hard to do when you cant' talk about it in your daily life.  Hang in there everyone - you guys are the only outlet alot of us have out here.

Thanks.

hl

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by madtram, Oct 19, 2009
Hi HL, please come to the current thread on:

http://www.medhelp.org/user_journals/show/128660

We will support you through this.  Yes it's a tough job but if you can manage a slow taper, some people have minimal withdrawals when using this method.  You can even go more gradually by cutting tablets, (or splitting capsules if you have them).

People have successfully tapered & gone cold turkey from very high doses, (> 1,000 mgs) & If you commit to the process, you can too.

Best wishes.

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by quikszilva, Mar 09, 2010
Hi forum, I have been taking 1 tramadol a day for the past 4 months and I feel very different. I wake up with a cloudy brain , my digestive track is way off track. I gained like 5 lbs, my energy goes way down ( when I'm not on them) I hate this because the only time I wanna clean and do things is when pop a tram. I hate this kind of dependency especially since I'm not even perscribed to them. Some one please give me advice or email me . I'm scared to quit. But I know I can I just need advice.    ***@****. thanks much

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by mimi10595, Sep 07, 2010
hello hoglover and Harmony 1111.. im in the same boat as you's. same thing the only person who knows about this is my hubby,  i really love to stop taking this drug.   i did try for 2 days it was the worses thing ever.

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by dmase, Sep 30, 2010
You have basically placebo'd yourself, I took 800mg to 1600mg for three years bc doctor said it would not have wd symptoms. I quit cold turkey didn't take anything for 8 months, had zero physical symptoms, but def had mental symptoms felt tired and wanted the boost it gave me. Then i started roxys for pain and those wd are the devil, there real and they last a long time once I got thru hard part I had diarrhea for over two weeks. I work in medicine know a whole lotta ways to cheat these things but the point is tramadol really isn't addictive trust me I. Restarted tramadol for six months and quit again w no symptoms. Sometimes knowledge is not power, u make urself feel worse, feel bad for urself and make symptoms that if u never took drugs you'd just walk it off and never think twice about it

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by 1consciousness, Dec 24, 2010
I just want to say i've been reading the comments posted here as i've been taking tramadol recently, purely for pleasure to relax at night and listen to reggae music.. but i have been thinking in the back of my mind how harmful is this to me? Dr's hand this stuff out without any warning about addiction or what they always call "side effects" me myself i call them EFFECTS! and reading the comments i think it's disgusting that they don't warn people. Everything in this world seems backwards at times, everything seems upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowladge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information and religions destroy spirituality. And it seems to me like they were DESIGNED to do this. Always question your dr's don't take anything they give you without proper research. Good luck to all the people struggling with tramadol i've had problems when i was in my teens with other drugs which i've now overcome thankfully. It can be done you've just got to be determined, don't let these people destroy your life with their manipulation, lies, and false information. Merry christmas to all..

One love x

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