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Mar 17, 2010 - 11 comments

Army Col. Billy Buckner defends the decision and says it's a smart and sensitive decision:


“We are respectful as the invited guests of the Government of Haiti,” Buckner said. “Our commanders are smart and intuitively understand their mission here in Haiti and clearly the sensitivities that come with supporting the mission. In most cases, they have operated in a [counterinsurgency] environment in Iraq and Afghanistan and know how to interact with the people. Bottom line is our commanders are using their best judgment to focus on the mission.

“It is no mystery that U.S. forces are on the ground, and we proudly wear an American flag on our right sleeve,” Buckner said.


In The Navy Times Buckner says there is no "prohibition" from flying the flag:

There is no official prohibition from doing so there or at any of the U.S. operating bases supporting relief operations in Haiti — either by the military or the State Department, officials said. But, said Army Col. Billy Buckner, a spokesman for Joint Task Force-Haiti, “We have just chosen not to do so.”

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by allaboutmary, Mar 17, 2010
It's one thing to be a Republican and disagree on issues, but to say that Obama hates America is just pure stupidity. I mean really.

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by allaboutmary, Mar 17, 2010
I'm all for flying the flag, but if the military chooses not to, I back their decision. After all they are the ones that are there in the thick of it.

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by ILADVOCATE, Mar 17, 2010
Well I'd rather not step into a debate about perspectives but I will post an article that is factual about what is going on in Haiti and where there are issues of concern that the public may not know about. I am also familiar with the agency involved and some of the people so I will not post the direct link to the agency mentioned although it could be found online. I have spoken to some of the founders of the agency mentioned and I believe the information there to be truthful:
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/homepage/82768327.html
As well although this media source is considered liberal and its perspective may be so the information that they cite is historically accurate. I will post that as well and let people make up their own minds about it:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8460185.stm
I would honestly believe it best if people on both sides of the issue could dialogue as to what their concerns are directly as to me that is how I find freedom of expression to be best resolved. I also will read any posted information people have from any perspective as to the basis of their opinions on either side. Thanks.

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by teko, Mar 17, 2010
In times when we are looked at as occupying territory that is not ours, I can see where the decision came from. Besides, can we not just do good for the sake of doing good anymore. Do we always have to get stroked? That decision comes from those who know far more than I do what the facts are. Conjecture is only conjecture and without knowing the full truth and facts, it would be hard to judge one way or the other in a fair and knowledeable manner, would it not. We Americans dont have enuff to harp about I suppose. That is just not a big deal as far as I can see. No, I dont think our president hates us, wants to destroy us, nor do I agree on any conspiracy theory whatsoever. Why? Cause it just doesnt make me one red cent is why.

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by teko, Mar 17, 2010
Unlike my dear friend Glenn Beck? Now there is a smart man! He gets rich off of peoples gullibility. But I dont, so I am not interested in crying chicken little, the sky is falling. Not yet anyways. IMO

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by allaboutmary, Mar 17, 2010
Advocate...............Thank you.  That explains a lot. Now I totally understand why they don't want to fly the flag.  Now if others would just get some information before spreading the "Obama hates America" crap. It really just shows ignorance.

Teko.....yes and guess who is making a big deal about it ? lol    If they think France is so right in flying their flag....let them move there. :)

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by jdwithhcv, Mar 17, 2010
I just read somewhere that our president does not like this country and he is punishing its citizens.  Even when I consider the source, I am stupefied by the sentiment.  The depth of ignorance racisim and hatred is far more horrifying than I ever dreamed, and I am sickened and disgusted by it.  What a shame, and what an embarrasment it is to this great country that people who claim to love it would destroy it with their bigotry.  Its enough to break your heart.

jd

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by teko, Mar 17, 2010
jd, Yep you just saw it up close and personal. Now you tell me what is wrong with this country. Eh?  Ugly aint it?

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by R Glass, Mar 17, 2010
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=527637

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by ILADVOCATE, Mar 17, 2010
Okay. I see your point there. Honestly I know people who immigrated from Haiti. They welcomed the oppurtunity to live in a free country. They do not disrespect the United States. Quite the opposite. The fact that Haiti has a corrupt dictator, whether they are left or right wing is nothing new and its doubtful they were elected by the will of the people. However you made some reasonable points I do agree with. Rather than two competing journal entries why not start a debate about it in the current events forum?

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by allaboutmary, Mar 18, 2010
"It is no mystery that U.S. forces are on the ground, and we proudly wear an American flag on our right sleeve," he said.

U.S. Air Force air operations specialists and FAA air-traffic controllers manage air traffic at Haiti's main airport, where millions of dollars in aid from the United States has been arriving for weeks. More than 12,000 U.S. servicemembers support relief operations.

"Our commanders are smart and intuitively understand their mission here in Haiti, and clearly the sensitivities that come with supporting the mission," Buckner said.

A U.S. flag went up at a temporary consular station set up in the first few days on the airport tarmac, according to Charles Luoma-Overstreet, a State Department spokesman in Haiti.

"Apparently, the prime minister (Jean-Max Bellerive) saw this" and thought it appeared as if the United States were taking over the airport, Luoma-Overstreet said.

He said Bellerive said something to U.S. Ambassador Kenneth Merten, who agreed that flying the flag wasn't a good idea and told the consular officials to take it down.

The decision is not unprecedented, noted Joe Davis, spokesman for the Veterans of Foreign Wars, who says he is not bothered by the flag's absence.

During the Gulf War in 1991, U.S. forces took control of the main airport in Kuwait and briefly flew the American flag over their installation, Davis said, but higher-ups ordered it taken down to avoid an impression that U.S. forces were conquerors.

The missing American colors at Port-au-Prince's airport were no problem to Don Hollenbaugh, a former Army Delta Force operator who received the Distinguished Service Cross for actions in Fallujah, Iraq, in 2004.

"Everybody in the world knows the U.S. is there," Hollenbaugh said. "So by not flying the flag, we're not changing anyone's mind about anything


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