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TMJ Pain and head and neck position. Elegant ecology.

Jan 16, 2018 - 5 comments
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If you have followed the sequence of my other blogs about TMJ pain and TMJ Disorder in general, by now you could come to the following conclusion on your own.

Dentistry is closely related to the functional and dynamic systems of the body. This relation which has been termed an “Elegant Ecology” is so intertwined that discussing one without the other would be an artificial separation of anatomy and physiology.

Any change in dental anatomy, position and mechanics will have an influence on the Craniosacral System and other functional systems of the body. It really is a simple matter. The position of the teeth affect the function of the jaw, which in turn effects the head position.

Rene Cailliet, Director of Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation at the University of Southern California, has put it best: “It is an axiom that the body follows the head. You can realign your whole body by repositioning your head. Head held in a forward position can pull your entire body out of line. It can reduce the vital lung capacity by as much as 30 percent. The gastrointestinal system is affected, particularly the large intestine. When a hunched position is assumed, the body becomes more rigid, and the range of motion decreases.  Since endorphin production is reduced, an increase in pain and discomfort results.”

Treating hundreds of patients including those with TMJ pain and all kinds of neck or cervical neuralgia, over the past 15 years in my Clinic at Miami Beach Dentistry, I have come to see this connection first hand. The body works as a complex unit, and when trying to treat it all parts need to be addressed based on their own merit.

What does this mean? I’ll elaborate. A very dangerous and persistent trend I see in patients today is the sum of fragmented information they have amassed from different sources be it websites or support groups. I say dangerous, because some of these patients believe that there is a holy grail in the form of a clinician or treatment that will take all their issues away.

The truth is far from that. Proper diagnosis and correct sequencing of the treatment is the key. This means that each segment of this complex “Craniosacral System” must be addressed by the correct practitioner specializing in that specific part. Yes, in my view, the best approach to treatment is a multi-disciplinary approach.

I have made no secret of my trainings and studies with Dr. Chan. I am a true believer in the fundamental basis of a physiologic bite, and the power of micro occlusion as taught by him. However, this is not a magic wand. While the correction of the jaw function can help many, it is not the only factor that needs to be addressed. What about the “Pain in the Neck”?

Many of the very advanced patients I see in my Miami Beach Dental Clinic today, have extremely poor postures, scoliotic spines, forward head and hips and unevenly developed musculature. Patterns that have developed over many years. Repositioning of the jaw and stabilizing the occlusion does not automatically correct all these issues. It does put you in a better position to correct them but it does not do the job for you. Without addressing the posture on its own, there will be residual symptoms, and in cases it can relapse the bite back to the previous position. It is a two-way street.

One of the most common issues I encounter, is lack of stability or integrity in the vertebral column. Specially in the cervical spine. Many of these patients have been cracking their own necks since they were kids. Later in life they have possibly seen Chiros and or other practitioners who have adjusted them. The result is the same, hyperlaxity of the connective tissue and ligaments that hold our skeletal system together. These patients can pull their vertebrae out by turning their heads suddenly or picking up a heavy object. This laxity needs to be addressed separately by another professional.

To look at this from another view consider the following. In my Dental  Practice, I have a handful of patients that are partially edentulous and based on everything I know and have learned these past 20 years, they should be in severe pain and discomfort. However, they are not. A closer look at these patients revealed that they were in great physical form. They are swimmers, dancers, trainers and so on. The effects of proper postural stance and integrity should not be discounted.

Another complicating factor that is somewhat overlooked is airway patency.  Although airway as of late, has become a hot topic, most of the solutions currently thrown around are quick fixes and palliative in nature. I believe that another segment of our patients who do not get the expected results are suffering from poor airway patency.

In my Practice, I try to anticipate these and other factors ahead of time in our patients and to address them each accordingly. This means working with other like minded and progressive practitioners and physicians who could help me bring a more complete treatment to my patients.

Here always for any progressive discussion.

Hamid Nassery, DMD, FAGD, FICOI, FICCMO
Owner of Miami Beach Dentistry/ RealSmile and Co Founder of The TMJ Research Foundation.

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by yvonne_ev, Jan 17, 2018
The tying together of these body systems is becoming more and more obviously connected to our overall balanced health and dynamic function of our bodies.

Witnessing this firsthand in myself recovering from a head and neck injury fall, sometimes the best relief comes from wearing my upper and lower space expander, physical therapy, massage and guided stretching of my neck and back area, quiet walking meditation and healthy diet. My next step is receiving the PRGF injections from a highly experienced and knowledgeable Neurologist, at the base of the skull, neck and spine. Which will engage in repair and healing to the ligaments in those areas most deeply affected.

I am grateful to have a progressive team of Progressive Doctors; Dentist, Neurologist and Therapists to bring this all together.

Thank you for your continued studies and advancement in understanding and translating this to the world
Dr. Hamid Nassery.

Sincerely,
Yvonne x

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by doctordoolittle, Jan 27, 2018
How very interesting.  I couldn't agree more which is why I practice yoga, prefer to use homeopathy.  Yvonne you might try arnica & ruta grav in addition - not in place of.  There is a great deal of controversy re 'alternative remedies' ....... with the 'establishment' saying there is no 'scientific evidence'.  All I know is that I've been using it for 40 years ....... and it works for me.  I was diagnosed with early osteoarthritis 30 years ago.  If I complained enough the GP's would have had me on ever increasingly strong painkillers (with their side-effects ....... not to mention the animal-testing issue)........ I'd already used homeopathy for some time but that was when I began to learn yoga.

Best wishes.

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by Sunshinestarz, Jul 08, 2018
Dr Nassery,

I’ve read a number of your blog posts after finding this forum - I’ve had neck and shoulder pain since the age of 15 (there was no specific accidents that caused the pain except for a very stressful time going through my parents divoce). I’ve seen a number of chiropractors, acupuncturists, physical therpists over the years and have been able to manage the pain through exercise, tons of foam rolling and stretches, yoga and massage therapy. My dentist told me about 5 yrs ago that i needed to start wearing a night guard due to grinding so i got a customized hard nightguard and have been wearing it for over 4 years. In the last 1.5 yrs, I’ve experience (and getting worse) signs of TMJ with headaches, migranes, left jaw pops , facial pain, worsen neck and shoulder pain. I spend an hr a night before bed to foam roll, stretch, doing face and mouth exercises, using a massager and doing meditation to get nice and loose befoee bed but while sleeping, im clenching (i sometimes wake up from this) and I wake up very tired and jaw and neck is in pain. I’ve seen a couple of TMJ specialists- one is a chiropractor by trade and she did some adjustments and we talked a lot about posture and exercises/ poses I can do regularly but it not help much. Another TMJ dentist I saw recently said that in looking at the structure of my mouth- narrow arch both top and bottom, decent size tongue, i was a mouth breather since I was young, gummy smile, I likely have a blocked airway which is causing me to grind/ clench at night. I’ve always felt that my breathing is shallow esp when laying down so his theory/ assumption makes sense. He suggested me using an oral appliance - DNA for 1.5 yrs 8 hrs a day to open up the upper arch to help open up my airway. Have you heard/ used the DNA appliance with your patients and how effective is it? It will be an $8k investment over 2 yrs so I want to do my due diligence before moving forward. Another TMJ specialist has put me on a CPC machine to check my sleep pattern and we’re doing this this wk. based on my description of my symptoms and his exam, he said i will likely need braces to open up my upper and lower arch- when i open my mouth, my jaw moves to the right and then back to center. I am 40 years old and I recently took a sleep study to rule out sleep apea. I am in search of a neuromuscular dentist in my area based on your recommendation - do you have one you recommend in N california? I live in Silicon valley. I did searches on neuromuscular dentists but th search results seem to be general dentista. Anything else you’d recommend I do or docs that I see before commiting 2 yrs and braces or the dna appliance? I plan to go see a chiro and get an xray of my neck and spine as well as an ent to check on my airway. Thanks in advance.

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by Ballgame17, Jul 09, 2018
You describe a few anatomical issues : narrowed upper and lower arches , decreased airway competence " experience (and getting worse) signs of TMJ with headaches, migranes (sic) , left jaw pops , facial pain, worsen neck and shoulder pain.". These are classic growth and ( under) development issues. I would encourage you to consult an oral and maxillofacial surgeon with DEMONSTRATED experience in assessing and managing someone with your presentations. All of the existing anatomic abnormalities  and the  subsequent development of altered occlusion of the teeth/ bite likely resulted in aberrant growth of the condylar component of the mandible and alteration of the normal menisco-condylar relationship with the glenoid fossa((google it for clarity) . For all intents , this is a mal-loaded , dysfunctional joint NO DIFFERENT than other orthopedic joints. Orthogmathic surgery with a combined orthodontic preparation approach would likely alleviate many of your complaints . Likely bimaxillary surgery resulting in advancing / widening the upper jaw ( maxilla) and subsequent mandibular advancement ; both would create increased naso/pharyngeal space. Additionally,  the condylar segments MAY be positioned in a more favorable loading relationship. Everything else , IMO. is dancing around the obvious. Yes, I am a retired OMFS.  

Dear Sunshine,

I am sorry you are having so much difficulty. I was speaking to one of my patients today and I told her that I would not want to be in her or for that matter your shoes. There is so much information and perhaps as much if not more misinformation. There are many questions in your comments and I will try to answer as many as I can.
You have done many things right, but your ability to compensate is wearing down. Many clinicians still do not understand the  Craniocervical/ Craniomandibular connection. Much like our well intentioned friend above. His suggestion is no different for me than the other two you mentioned. Start a course of action without knowing for certain if you will be ok.
I agree that many of your signs and symptoms are due the malformation or developmental abnormalities. I further agree that you need to properly develop your arches be it orthopeadically or surgically as the good surgeon recommends. However, would it not be more prudent to find the correct position for the  lower jaw first, recapture the dislocated minicus, and bring function into its proper plane first and essentially render you asymptomatic first? without making any irreversible changes in your mouth, specially surgical..

To me all the options you have been given are just tools. You mentioned DNA. Yes, I know what it is. I am a certified provider. I have used it, and may use it again in the future. In my experience a very symptomatic case like yours, is not a good indication. Just my personal opinion. I would want to first stabilize your bite and joint and get your neck into the right place, before I start moving teeth into positions where I do not know would bring you comfort and relief.

Hence, I recommend that you would do neither. You need stabilization first. To answer another one of your questions, about a Nueromuscular dentist, they are general dentists. Mostly. I know a couple of orthodontists, that practice this philosophy.

Best I can recommend is to look up the map in the link below and find someone close to you; Ask more questions.

https://batchgeo.com/map/ab93500357547df41bb5e83c52ed3c8e

I wish you all the best. Do not do any irreversible treatments till you have all your questions answered.

Regards,

H.Nassery, DMD
www.miamibeachdentistry.com

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