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Oct 16, 2008 - 39 comments

I wonder if I could ask a favor, just a nice request of some of you.. On behalf of some of the members who are probably over the age of 30 , I'm asking really nicely, I'm begging you --- Could you please post in Regular Style" rather than" Text Message" style.? Text message style is difficult to read .. and we' aren't being charged for the number of letters in each message.... So please consider this for what it is meant to be.. just a request, if you will.

Please don't write me back :"This is a public forum and we can write however we want"...I know, I know ,and you may certainly continue to write in any form you choose... But please, please consider this request..

Many, many thanks.
Sandy

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106886 tn?1281291572
by Mary 53, Oct 16, 2008
Sandy,

THANK YOU!  I sometimes just skip over posts written "Text" style. I find it very difficult to get through them and sometimes I don't even understand them!  I actually had to explain to one of my students in Literature class last year why we have to capitalize the pronoun " I " as in " I am speaking"... he said, "Why isn't it a small cap" ?  

Another request, if I may add to your request (and it was written very kindly) would be to break up the writting... so, one big paragraph broken into two or three is sometimes easier on the eye, in my opinion. I have to remind myself to do this, so it is not the end of the world to have a big paragraph... but, maybe for me it is a brain processing issue.

Thanks,

Mary

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by PinkTissue, Oct 16, 2008
I have to applaud you for writing this journal entry. It is difficult to 'move against the tide'. My old supervisor in her 60s (long since retired, bless her) caught the SMS 'bug' and I spent so many times running up to her office to check with her what exactly she wrote in her e-mail.

I know that I am a weirdo - I think I am the only one who insists on SMSing the text in full even if I have to spend more time typing the message!

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by Sandymac, Oct 16, 2008
Thank you for reminding me of the paragraph breaks... It does make it so much easier.!  Now, I have to plead ignorance.. what is SMS?? You can tell I'm really out of the loop !!! LOL   ( Now I think LOL is understandable to all.. so that should be exempt) LOL....

Thanks again, Sandy

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by PinkTissue, Oct 16, 2008
And the CAPs thingy can be quite hurting to the eyes....I have a friend who like to text message me in CAPs.

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by Angie_Lou, Oct 16, 2008
LOL...this I understand, but only after I asked.  I'm curious as to what SMS is, too.  Sounds almost illicit.

Now, if only there was a keyboard in the style of short-hand (did anyone else take this in high school like me?), that would really throw the 'texters' for a loop....or is it through a hoop?!?  Oh, I forgot...LOL

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by PinkTissue, Oct 16, 2008
SMS is an acronym for Short Message Service - or what you call text messaging in the US. It took me sometime to realize that the acronym is only known to my part of the world.

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by Sandymac, Oct 16, 2008
Oh Yes !!   ( I started to write OMG).. but that should be exempt too.. Shorthand.. Now wouldn't that be fun!   "Gregg Shorthand" wasn't it? Boy, you aren't that old are you..oops.. just checked your profile . I didn't know they still taught that then. :You'll never believe this, but I actually saw someone not too long ago using one of those mimeograph machines --- remember the ones with the purple ink? Where do you suppose they even get the supplies for that thing ! That stuff stained everything.. you could never get it out of your clothes.. Brother, I'm really ancient..



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by Sandymac, Oct 16, 2008
Pink Tissue... Thanks.. learn something new everyday right? !

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by Jan214, Oct 17, 2008
I couldn't agree more.  No one is more proficient in txt speak than me, but I had it when it is on here or emails.  I very rarely even use contractions, unless I am trying to imply a certain tone of voice.

And the all caps: YOU MAY NOT MEAN IT BUT YOU REALLY ARE SCREAMING AT ME!!!!! It is very hard on my eyes.  A word or two for emphasis or even a short sentence but a whole post...I won't even read it.  With all of my chemo's it really looks like the letters are falling in on each other and I can't make out the words at all as they run together.

What about Carbon Paper?  When was the last time you saw that messy stuff?

Well, hope u r all having a gd nite. O, b4 I 4get I will talk 2 u tom., Lv J

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by Mary 53, Oct 17, 2008
Hahaha, Good one, Jan. And, I think I totally understood it!

Lv M

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by crecco, Oct 17, 2008
I guess a better way of putting it is "you can't teach an old dog new tricks"  LOL  For the most part, all of us over about 30 just do not get in to texting and all of the "shorthand" Yes Sandy, it was Greggs shorthand. It didn't make sense the first time I saw it and it still dosn't make sense now. My biggest problem in trying to figure out what some of these mean is that I come up with something totally different. I am on another forum that uses OT for posts that are off topic. The first time I saw it it read Crecco-OT I thought it meant crecco- out there. It took me awhile to figure out why a few of them kept throwing a fit if I posted something off topic and didn't start it with OT.
  That was a good one Jan. Yeah, what did happen to carbon paper, and white out?
Yes caps are another thing, but I can excuse them at times as I know a few women that post in all caps due to eye problems.
(By the way, typing a letter in text style reminds me of myself trying to type again after 30 years)
(and Sandy, I actually have an old Greggs Shorthand book!)

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by TrudieC, Oct 17, 2008
Shorthand!  Bad, bad memories there.  Took it in highschool and actually had to use it in one of my early jobs.  Talk about stress!  I actually miss carbon paper.  My first job out of high school in 1980 was typing tax returns five pages thick with carbon paper inbetween.  Thank God white out had just been invented!  Pink, we do use SMS here.  On Blackberries all texts are called SMS messages and I also sell an Australian software product which uses it.

Thank you so much for this post.  The goal of the forum is to help women but if it is too much work for others to read what you have written you aren't likely to get as much assistance as you deserve.  I am an avid Blackberry addict and I still write in full sentences.  

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by vegas2cr, Oct 17, 2008
Ah shorthand..... there was two types... Gregg and Pitman.... here in Costa Rica a Blackberry is a fruit...we will not have the 3g to run blackberries until next year..Iphone here means  you call me... Things are changing as it was only 8 months ago that I had dial up internet and now have high speed DSL.  

I also can not read text messaging and when I am in the states and my granddaughter does it I have no idea what she is sayin....although I have learned that DB means dear boyfreind...

Everyone have  a good day...

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by TrudieC, Oct 17, 2008
I learn something new every day.  I'm assuming if DB means dear boyfriend that all the people I see using DH must be dear husband.  It's been killing me and I was afraid to ask!  It was Pitman shorthand that I learned.  

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by vegas2cr, Oct 17, 2008
Trudie you are making me laugh... DH is dear husband... I know a few due to have teenaged grandkids...I didn't think anyone would know about pitman shorthand....there are a few words I do know now... I tell the kids speak to me in full sentences please... I don't like cuz I said so..or my granddaughter in July said to me LMAO... meaning off course now I know laughing my [email protected]@ off..

Boy do I feel old today.. but good knowing I am not the only old person out here...not that you Trudie are old you are a young kid to me at 59.

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by crecco, Oct 17, 2008
Trudie,
   Do not feel bad at all as you have cleared something up for me. I have always wondered what DH meant also but like you was afraid to ask. That is why I didn't know on the other forum that OT meant off topic. I just didn't want to ask .
Maybe I need to start taking notes of all of this, but you can bet they will be in longhand!
  So did you graduate in 79 or 80?

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by TrudieC, Oct 17, 2008
I graduated in '80.  Yes, you and I are the closest in age here.  Started full time work a week later.  I did my university part time at night after I was married and had a kid and exprienced a stint on my own as a single mother and while in and out of the hospital with ulcerative colitis.  Stress is my middle name!

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by crecco, Oct 17, 2008
Trudie,
  I graduated in 79, a single mother at the time! My son went to my graduation!
Oh I feel for you with the ulcerative colitis. My sister was dx with Chrones several years ago.


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by mirabella45, Oct 17, 2008
Good Morning!!   I also skip over things I dont understand.  I usually have to yell for my son to interpret what I am trying to read.
I need to go back to school for messaging.  I would rather have someone write it out.

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by TrudieC, Oct 17, 2008
You know, I think the DH should actually stand for damn husband!  

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by PPhelps, Oct 17, 2008
Ha Trudie I agree. OR FH (use your own interpretation). I hate text messaging. My boss lady knows how, which is weird because I'm considered the computer geek around here. It took me a long time to figure out LOL. But my kids are still young, so I probably will learn it some day. Just like the boss lady did.

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by AR-10, Oct 17, 2008
SEXIST!!!

LOL!

jst kdng dnt hrt me

:o)

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by cirella, Oct 17, 2008
Sandy, this is a great topic!

I must confess...if a post is rather long with no paragraphs, no sentence breaks or capitalization to indicate a new sentence, no punctuation and loads of that text style I just don't read it.  Sorry.  Double should go for the ALL CAPS.  To me, that is yelling and it hurts my eyes and stomach.

There's my 2 cents.



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by marie3B, Oct 17, 2008
I will add my 2 cents to yours. I agree.  I also will add that I often refer to my poor DH as a DA when he might not really deserve that abbreviation!  LOL Marie

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by JC145, Oct 17, 2008
Personally, I have no problem with any of it .. altho I think CAPS should be used to highlight a word or thought.  I text all of the time and cannot get my self to use the "shorthand of texting" except for a couple like 2 (to) or 4 (for) .. just old school typist here .. along with Gregg Shorthand.  

Yes, ladies, I found the website:  http://gregg.angelfishy.net/anunit01.shtml  (Check out my pictures for a sample).

I just want to say that I have enjoyed this "chatter" today.  It was nice to escape a little and laugh and remember.  I was class of '62 .. now that's old!

Enjoy

Judy


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by Sandymac, Oct 17, 2008
This has turned into a great discussion !! And.. I still buy white out!! And, Jan and Trudie... I miss carbon paper too.. Sometimes it would come in handy..And I never knew what DH meant either so don't feel alone ! Totally agree about the CAPS, but I didn't want to get too greedy in my request .. but thankfully everyone is in total agreement. (I think.. the day is young yet)

Thanks all,
Sandy

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by crecco, Oct 17, 2008
           IOh Sandy, you should have never said that!!
I was in a chat room one time and could not figure out half of what they were saying, so later I looked and found a few websites devoted entirely to "text talk". If I could just remember what they were! Shows you how much attention I paid to it!
  (Also for the longest time I thought LOL meant "lots of love". I guess I was only 1/2 wrong)

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by Sandymac, Oct 17, 2008
Ha ha... me too on the LOL... My grandson had to correct me ! ..by the by, are you having new "stuff" soon? Best of luck for that and hope it's not too bad for you! ..

Best to you,
Sandy

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by ireneo, Oct 17, 2008
I definitely agree with the long paragraphs. I keep losing my place from one line to the next. Yeah, I'm old too. Anyone else increase the text size from small to medium? And all the abbreviations - I'm learning but sometimes I have no idea so I make up stuff. DH took me awhile.

Carbon paper - what nightmare if you made a mistake. Way back in the stone age (1970) I had to take a typing test on a manual typewriter to get a job with the government. I think I had to type 40 words a minute back then to qualify. Even in 1978 when my DH :-) got his job here he had to type all his files and cards on an old Royal manual. He still has it up on a shelf. Now he has a dual screen computer. What a change.

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by gah_70, Oct 17, 2008
I have a problem with run-on sentences.  I will read the messages all the same, but punctuation was created for a reason!  But when I happen upon one of those posts, I find myself reading it out loud, and I sound like I am in first grade reading about Jane and her dog, Spot!  I know not everyone has the ability to write, and English is not everyone's native language so I don't want to be too critical.  But for those who do speak English as a first language, it wouldn't chap your backside to use a capital "I" every now and then, would it?  And basic English - all sentences begin with a capital letter. OK, I better stop.  I'm afraid I might offend someone, and I wouldn't want to do that!

When I was in college (which to me, seems like not all that long ago, but in reality, it WAS 15 years ago...and by the way, do you like that one word capitalization thing for emphasis???  LOL, for laughing out loud and lots of love), some of my professors used a mimeograph machine.  I remember the purple ink and how it smelled.  Am I the only weirdo, or are there others who actually liked that smell?  

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by Sandymac, Oct 17, 2008
LOL.. Now that's funny... I sort of liked it as well..maybe it made us "happy".. It was pretty strong  LOL again..

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by PPhelps, Oct 17, 2008
I don't miss carbon paper. I just had to deal with it, our rock tickets still have carbon paper. I like the carbonless paper. As far as white out, I couldn't do my job without it. It is a necessity here. The even use it to mark the rail outside. And of course through my job that is what I do is type. So my I's are always capital. It annoys me too sometimes when I see the i's .
And the all CAPS, gives me a headache so I don't even try to read them. I stare at a computer all day long. The last thing my eyes need is to try and read that ****. I always end up seeing double. Also, it could just mean I need to get glasses finally. Who knows?

Gail & Sandy don't feel to bad I always liked the smell of the black permanent markers.

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by knightrider, Oct 17, 2008
Ireno,
Sandy's the name,cool.
I'm sorry,I have a problem with the wise crack ref.English.The problem is
I always think ahead B-4 I can write it down.The language is no
problem.Beside's ,it's **** and Jane with their dog Spot.
See **** run,run run ****.See Jane with her dog Spot and ECT.!!!
If  U can't read mind,No one is forcing U to.SOOOOOOOOOOO
skip it.
U can ask some of the friends.It take's alot of B/S to **** me off

                                                         KNIGHT

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by crecco, Oct 17, 2008
  I can read it and will still skip it. I'm slow enough that I am still trying to figure out if you are being rude or not.

   Paula, I always loved the smell of black premanent markers too and still do!
And I still occasionally use white out too. Especially in address books or something similar if a number or address change.
I still haven't quite figured out how to type something (and where to type it so it prints out) on my computer but I guess white out would do no good there. (but then I know of some people that would probably try using white out with their computer, and try putting it on the screen!)
        Chris

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by Mary 53, Oct 17, 2008
I'm in a rush (getting beloved '96 Camry to the Dealer to see if it can be fixed after stalling out on me last night)... but, Gosh, GAIL!  I was thinking this morning if anyone else LOVED The smell of the old Mimmeographed papers!  Sorry, but the Black Magic Markers send me running... Funny.

OK.. I meant to put this up last night, but forgot. I have not checked recently, but isn't it a rule on Medhelp to just PLEASE use regular English when writing? I might be confusing this with another site that I visited years ago.... And, since I was one of the first responders to this journal, you can bet that if it isn't a rule, I do think it should be... Off to the Toyota Dealer.

Mary

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by cirella, Oct 17, 2008
I find it very interesting that the 2 questionable comments are from MEN.  Why are you on this forum, anyway?  Brother!

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by knightrider, Oct 17, 2008
Short and sweet.

Maybe,because the LADIES out here are fun,and understandable (OOPS)
I'm waving the WHITE FLAG


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by ireneo, Oct 17, 2008
Knight is just a character, doesn't have a mean bone in his body. Really - he simply has a quirky sense of humor that we appreciate on the heart boards. Please don't take offense.

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by margo1110, Oct 17, 2008
I started cracking up when some of you mentioned the old mimiograph machines and the smell of the ink!  Back when I was in grade school (yes, I'm old) they called them "DITTO" machines here in SoCal. I remember when the teacher would pass out freshly printed worksheets the first thing all the kids would do was stick the paper on their face and start sniffing it! Then you would hear them all going "AHHHHH"!

I'm with most of you about the abbreviations. There are many I haven't a clue what they mean. Luckily I have a teenage daughter I ask. The symbols get me, too. I couldn't figure out what <3 was, for example. I asked my daughter and she says "It's a sideways heart MOM! DUH!"....O.K. so now I'm informed.....(SIGH)

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