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Oct 30, 2008 - 36 comments

Sorry to say it, but I'm going to start boycotting pink ribbons.
Everywhere you turn its pink this pink that. Over 700 million dollars donated last year to breast cancer and they still can't find a cure???? WOW they must have some pretty dumb scientists working for them...Not to mention They can't be bothered to share with any of the other cancers out there that have a higher mortality rate?
I'm disgusted. Now to top it all off there newest sponsor is Yoplait???? WTF People that’s like letting ciggy makers support a black ribbon on packs of ciggys. It’s become nothing more than propaganda anymore.

I feel for these women with breast cancer, or any type of cancer for that matter, but come on people breast cancer survives for an average of at least 5 years beyond diagnoses and here ovarian cancer can't even get an accurate diagnoses test. I'm sad to say that for the first time today I refused packaging that had a pink ribbon on it. Yes I went to my local grocery store and on their paper bags for this month they are supporting pink ribbons, and I asked for plastic instead. I will no longer support the pink ribbon until they stop hogging everything.


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by vegas2cr, Oct 30, 2008
here are two charts for survival... first is ovarian cancer second is breast cancer  the difference they don't tell is that over
75% of breast cancer is stage 2 or less.. and they could up that figure if all women got mammagrams... this if from the american cancer association... web pages...  Most women with ovarian cancer are stage 3 or IV due to no way to have preventative testing.... Ronni

Stage Relative 5-Years Survival Rate
IA 92.7%
IB 85.4%
IC 84.7%
IIA 78.6%
IIB 72.4%
IIC 64.4%
IIIA 50.8%
IIIB 42.4%
IIIC 31.5%
IV 17.5%





Stage 5-year Relative Survival Rate
0 100%
I 100%
II 86%
III 57%
IV 20%



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by nyc lady, Oct 30, 2008
I agree with you and for the longest time I would say that I am not "anti pink I am pro teal".  Believe me that I feel your frustration, in reality, alot more people are affected by breast cancer.  Ovarian Cancer is closer to our hearts and thus the frustration....maybe we need to look at this a different way, maybe we need to some how ride the pink coat tails....there is a close relationship between Breast and Ovarian...and although we did not get much news coverage in the month of Sept, The Today Show did do a segment on Breast cancer and genetics and they spoke about both Ovarian and Breast cancer, genetics and BRAC gene testing.  
How many white, purple and/or other color awareness ribbons do you really see.....we only see pink....this has to be frustrating to all types of cancer survivors.  
We need to take that anger and contact companies, why not contact Yoplait and ask them why they don't do teal caps in September???  I know that when asked at my supermarket to give money for Breast Cancer, I ask them for a donation for Ovarian Cancer and hand the cashier a symptom card. I try to turn the opportunity into one where I can educate someone.
It all goes back to Jan's post earlier this week....we need to stop the whisper.
I will send an email to Yoplait...let's see their response and what they say.  We can make it worse too, by taking away the pink.....although it dominates the world, it is still related to Ovarian Cancer and gives us, no matter how little, some publicity.  


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by StillFighting, Oct 30, 2008
Thank you for your words of insight. I'm just so frustrated. I will be purchasing some of those cards to start handing out. AND I WILL SHOUT TO THE WORLD ABOUT OVARIAN CANCER, No longer will I whisper.
brightest blessings to you all, I hope all is well with everyone. I haven't posted for a while, been on vacation *grins*


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by StillFighting, Oct 30, 2008
ah ha, found the article that msnbc put out.

Breast cancer funding hogs the spotlight and money, critics charge.
Breast cancer is so generously funded partly because leading advocacy groups have powerful lobbying arms.
Even as the economy implodes and the nation prepares for a historic election, America is flooded with the pink ribbons of Breast Cancer Awareness Month. During October, the ribbons are on yogurt containers, race cars, video game machines, foot callous scrapers, teddy bears, jewelry, cruise ships, cosmetics, department store gift cards — every conceivable product.

But behind the pink there is politics.

Some advocates for research into other diseases, and some scientists, worry the breast cancer movement is hogging the spotlight — and the money — at the expense of other worthy causes. Some within the breast cancer movement itself accuse advocacy organizations and corporate donors of “pink washing,” using a veneer of altruism to cover up practices these critics find objectionable.

In the world of cancer charities and government funding, breast cancer is queen. The top four breast cancer charities take in a combined annual revenue of roughly $256 million according to their tax returns. The largest breast cancer charity, Susan G. Komen for the Cure, had a total revenue of $161,974,711 for the year ending March 31, 2007 according to its tax return.

The National Cancer Institute (NCI) devoted $572.4 million researching breast cancer in 2007. Other National Institutes of Health (NIH) funding for breast cancer boosted the total spent on the disease to $705 million. Plus, the Department of Defense operates its own breast cancer research outfit at a cost of another $138 million in fiscal 2008.

By way of comparison, in 2007 the NCI spent $226.9 million studying lung cancer, the leading cancer killer in the U.S., and $73.3 million studying pancreatic cancer, which kills nearly as many patients as breast cancer, usually within a year of diagnosis. Cardiovascular disease, the biggest killer of both men and women, received $381 million.

Downside to generous funding
Breast cancer is so generously funded partly because advocacy groups have powerful lobbying arms. Last year, Komen spent $724,073 lobbying legislators, almost double the amount from 2004, its tax returns show, while the National Breast Cancer Coalition (NBCC) spent $432,680 during 2006.

“Disease advocacy has become a well-recognized component of the funding landscape,” explains University of Pennsylvania bioethicist and msnbc.com contributor Art Caplan, “and breast cancer is the modern marvel everyone wants to emulate.”

As NCI lung cancer researcher Phillip A. Dennis pointed out in the journal Science in 2004, breast cancer received nine times the funding per death as lung cancer. “Important health issues such as diarrhea, influenza, and lung cancer may not be sexy, but they deserve the public’s attention and commitment from policymakers and the scientific community,” he wrote.

The downside is some diseases don't lend themselves to generous fundraising. "I don’t think you will see much in the way of a 10K run for urinary incontinence," says Caplan.

Breast cancer organizations have another advantage: many breast cancer patients live to become an army of walking, letter-writing, TV-appearing advocates. Nearly 90 percent of women with breast cancer survive the disease at least five years.

On the other hand, “pancreatic cancer patients are dead,” points out Barron Lerner, professor of medicine and public health at Columbia University, author of a book called "The Breast Cancer Wars."

Which helps explain the full-page ad in the Oct. 1 edition of the New York Times, the day Breast Cancer Awareness Month kicked off:

“odds of surviving airline crash: 25%
“odds of surviving pancreatic cancer: 4%”

The Lustgarten Foundation, the pancreatic cancer group that sponsored the ad, claims the timing was coincidence. But Lerner is skeptical. “It is a jab at breast cancer,” he says. “They are saying ‘Come on, guys. We want a seat at the table, too.’”

Unfair playing field
In the zero-sum game that is medical research funding, money given to one disease program is money that does not go to another.

“I have had people say to me ‘the playing field is just not fair,’” Caplan reports. “‘Breast cancer did so well, got there first, nailed down corporate support, got the tops of buildings turning pink, the walks, the runs, there is nothing left for us. We are envious.’”

The saturation of breast cancer awareness has left even some survivors dismayed. Writer, social critic, and former breast cancer patient Barbara Ehrenreich has called the movement “an outbreak of mass delusion,” and “a cult.”

“The products — teddy bears, pink-ribbon brooches, and so forth — serve as amulets and talismans, comforting the sufferer and providing visible evidence of faith,” she has written.

Such faith is not the best way to allot research dollars, argues Dr. Ann Flood, director of health policy studies at Dartmouth University. “It is certainly not rational by any means,” Flood, herself a breast cancer survivor, says. She believes breast cancer is worthy of generous funding, but “I do not think we should be doing it in this micromanaged way, which diseases we should study.”

Funding that is driven by public demand comes with risks. Just because a campaign is successful “does not mean science is at the point where it can do anything with the money that could fruitfully go someplace else,” says Caplan.

Caroline Wall, manager for marketing operations at Komen, dismisses such arguments. No amount of funding, she says, will “be enough until we find a cure for the disease.”

Not all breast cancer organizations agree. “I argue we do not need more money for breast cancer research,” says Barbara Brenner, a breast cancer survivor and the executive director of Breast Cancer Action (BCA), a San Francisco-based activist organization which has launched a Web site called thinkbeforeyoupink.org. Brenner argues that nobody knows just what all the money has purchased.

'Pink washing'
Making a correlation between the amount of money spent and medical advances made is virtually impossible, especially for cancer, experts say. The rate of breast cancer incidence has been rising over the decades, probably due to better detection, and the rate of breast cancer death has been slowly dropping. There is often great dispute about why, but most scientists agree it is likely a combination of new drugs, especially estrogen blockers like tamoxifen, and early detection. Since breast cancer, like many cancers, is really a constellation of different processes, there is not likely to be any such thing as “a cure.”

With no cure in sight despite billions spent on research, many activists like Brenner want more attention paid to breast cancer prevention — especially possible environmental factors — and closing the gap in treatment between social and racial groups. They also advocate more rigorous science backing up the supposed benefits of mammograms and new drugs under consideration for approval

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by kimmywah, Oct 30, 2008
Hi,
Thanks for this, very interesting.
Perhaps with your new president there will be some changes.  He has been touched by ovca and has lost his Mum to the disease.  Maybe this is the time to stand up and scream.


Peace...Kim


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by StillFighting, Oct 30, 2008
our new president? he hasn't been elected yet you know something we dont? ROFL

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by jdwithhcv, Oct 30, 2008
You might be interested in an organization called One Voice Against Cancer.  

One Voice Against Cancer (OVAC) a collaboration of national non-profit organizations representing millions of Americans, delivers a unified message to Congress and the White House on the need for increased cancer-related appropriations.

They recognized years ago that the government has less wiggle room if organizations lobbying for funding for cancer research join together and speak with one voice.  Their member organizations combine their efforts and achieve remarkable results.

Check them out!


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by child24angel, Oct 30, 2008
Agree JD....where in the heck does all the money go???? everything is pink pink pink,
I have lost several friends and one family member to breast cancer along with other cancers also.
I wish they could find a cure for all cancers and HCV and AIDS..and everything !!!!
Changing my page for YOU
Hugs Elaine

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by StillFighting, Oct 30, 2008
Thanks for the info I will definatly check them out. That sounds like my sort of organization hehehe.
Even though my ribbon is teal, I dont feel it should get any special treatment over any other cancer out there. Although a detection test would be nice lol

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by Conquerer, Oct 30, 2008
sorry ladies I think pink is very important.  As BRACA 1 I have an 80% chance of breast cancer.  Also the Koman was started by a sister in 86 in support of her sister that died from breast cancer, I think we should congratulate not chastise. I volunteer for Ovarian Cancer Awarness and we raised in our town alone $35,000 this year and I have spoken on tv radio and al least 15 different groups.  In New York a large ovarian group raised over 3 million dollars this summer on the designer sale this year.  So wear your teal ribbons and be proud and when people ask what it is for tell them along with the signs and symptoms.  Each one of us can make a difference.
Laurel

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by StillFighting, Oct 30, 2008
I never Breast Cancer wasn't important just that its all propoganda any more. They want to hog the spot light while other cancers struggle and can't even get reliable testing. There is only so much money you can throw at a project and I'm sorry but the 700 mil you all got last year compared to a measly 35k well you just support my argument thats all. I feel for anyone with any type of cancer, but I do not condone whats being done now.

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by orphanedhawk, Oct 30, 2008
My skeptical husband thinks 'they' aren't looking for a cure to cancer because of all the money it brings in, sad but possibly true? Could the same be said about HCV?
And  it irks me, as glad as I am to see HIV addressed, how about HCV which affects more people?
I'm a bit exhausted from the whole experience!
hugs, OH

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by SimplyStar, Oct 30, 2008
I am sorry , but fighting a color of a ribbon is not going to bring back those that have been lost to this damn disease.  Getting a president that lost a mother to OVCA won't either.  Putting pressure on the researchers and the AMA is a different thing.  We need an improvement in the 20 year search for a cure. We cannot afford to keep losing friends and relatives while money is being spent on things that do us no good.  I am crying again tonight for Donna, Leslee, Helmar, Freshair, Melody, and all the other angels we have lost.  We all know there is a cure, God did not make a disease without a cure.  I had polio in 1952, 2 years later  out came the vaccine. Small pox, plauge, fle shots, and all the shots they give kids now days. Cancer is curable, it is getting epidemic now. That 700 billion bailout would look mighty good  in research funds.  Spend some time each day, writing emails, letters, letters to the editors to those that can make a difference, tell them we want action NOW, not after another million lives are lost. Do like Pam does, get active in getting the word out, we cannot sit around any longer, we must shake some booty. Walks are fine for raising money, but I believe it is going to take pressure, put by us  on the right people, to get something done.  We are small people, but all of us know prominet people, those are the ones that can help us. Write to your Senators and Reps , write to the President, write to the Sec of Health, the FDA, all the research centers all over the world, let them know, we want a cure,  we cannot wait another 20 years for this, get an investigation going, find out who or what is dragging their feet. We can only get things done if we raise the level of awareness to the highest level , so that the world takes notice.  I don't have another daughter to give to this disease,  but I have myself to try and defeat it.  If we shout loud enough we will get the money and the time to spend on this.  I was just involoved in a million women tele conference, What would a million woman march on  our capital do?  Raise awareness and get something started and done.  Marty

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by jobanana, Oct 31, 2008
SimplyStar offers the best advice people. Cancer of ALL KINDS is killing us. We can & need to find the cure. Being against a ribbon color or chosing a president won't be the cure." Raise awareness & getting something done "will . Joanna

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by StillFighting, Oct 31, 2008
HCV? whats that?

I agree jobanana and in a perfect world thats the way it would be. I'm just frustrated that other forms of cancer can't get any funding because one particular cancer takes it all. Its very frustrating and dont get me wrong by boycotting pink I'm just gonna make sure my money goes towards other cancers, ones that are not so well funded. I'm also mad at the latest sponsor, it seems to me that with Yoplait being able to put the pink ribbon on there cartons that people dont care who reps there ribbons. It also misleads the public in thinking that Yoplait is a safe product when its not. It has known ingredients that are directly related to causing breast cancer. Like I said above, it would be no different than allowing ciggy companys to put the black ribbon (lung cancer) on there ciggy packs and promoting them.

SimplyStar I hear ya hun and I am all for doing that march on our capital although I have my doubts that it would work. I have to agree with you. There will never be a cure for cancer, its to much of a money maker.

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by jdwithhcv, Oct 31, 2008
HCV is hepatitis C.  When reviewing a follow-up CT scan, my cancer surgeon didn't like the look of my liver (and he had recently seen it in the flesh during surgery!) so he sent me for testing and guess what - I had Hep C.  Its a nasty virus, takes 48 weeks of miserably aggressive chemo-like treatment (you know, nausea, hair loss, hemolytic anemia and such!) and there's a 50% chance of a cure!  I'm so glad he checked, I was real close to needing a liver transplant if I didn't get treated.

Today I'm remembering Hee Jung - a dear friend and classmate who left us 3 years back on this day.  We attended law school together, prepared for the bar exam together, and got cancer together.  I'm the luck one - still here to fight.  Hee Jung's spirit finally outgrew her body.  Rest in peace my dear friend.....

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by bohan54, Nov 01, 2008
Not to be crass, but in this culture, it's always all about boobs...

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by StillFighting, Nov 02, 2008
I have to agree whole heartedly there.

I had to have both of mine removed due to the metastatic ovarian cancer. should of seen the Dr's office trying to label that one, they kept wanting to list it as breast cancer and I kept saying noooooooo its metastatic ovarian. I think it finaly sunk in lol.....

the upside to having your girls removed and yeah for prosthetics

when the hubby makes ya mad, you can always throw the girls at him.
You get to mess with people by wearing them on your back to lol.

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by bohan54, Nov 02, 2008
That sense of humor must be what's keepin you going!  
I've lost so much weight during chemo, my girls are hanging pitifully low.  Remember that old song, "can you tie em in a knot, can you tie em in a bow?"  I almost can!

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by vegas2cr, Nov 02, 2008
Both of you are making me laugh so hard that I can hardly type.. I too lost so much weight that I thought who is that person.. Now I have a thyroid that totally quit so I have gained so much weight that my poor boobs don't know what to do...but sag........alas

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by StillFighting, Nov 02, 2008
can you tie em in a bow?"  I almost can!

bwaaaaaaaaaaaaa bobby bows I love it.
as for the weight loss hey what other method is there for loosing weight? chemo could give weight watchers a run for there money lol....

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by StillFighting, Nov 02, 2008
giggles some more. I can just see the ribbon for the booby bows. a pink figure 8 sideways ROFL

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by nyc lady, Nov 03, 2008
I sent an email to Yoplait stating that I was an OvCa survivor and interested in finding out what we need to do to get a "teal" cap programing going....I also gave them the stats of this horrid disease.  Following is the response that I received, I don't think that it addressed my question.  I am going to respond, saying that the Komen foundation is an excellent organization, but, my question was what we do to get a "teal" cap program. I am not going to suggest that ever stop pushing pink, but, will ask that they also support teal....I would be happy with a teal cap for just raising awareness and not get any funds out of it.  It would be a start.....why doesn't everyone also send emails....can't hurt...."Together we can make a difference"!!!!!

  "Thank you for taking the time to write to Yoplait USA regarding your concerns about our recent Save Lids to Save Lives® program.

We have made a commitment to support the Susan G. Komen For the Cure and the Susan G. Komen Race for the Cure®, but we feel we are also charged with heightening awareness and participation through national marketing and merchandising efforts, such as Save Lids to Save Lives®.
  
While we considered a number of formats for our program designed to support breast cancer treatment, education and research, we ultimately selected the Save Lids to Save Lives® program for the unique partnership opportunity it offered and for the potential it had to raise awareness.  Because we believe that breast cancer has powerful implications for all of us, we wanted to craft a program that would allow our consumers to take an active role in combating this terrible disease by collecting and submitting the pink lids.
  
More information about the Susan G. Komen For the Cure is available by calling 1-800-IM AWARE (800.462.9273) or by accessing the Susan G. Komen For the Cure website at www.komen.org.  
  
  
Again, we appreciate your comments about the Save Lids to Save Lives® program.   We hope you will feel free to contact us in the future with any comments or concerns you may have regarding Yoplait.  Your commments will be shared with the promotions team.
  
Sincerely,
  
(name omitted by me)
General Mills
Consumer Services"

Conqueuer - is the event that you are talking about "Super Saturday" for the Ovarian Cancer Research Fund....I can assure that 3 million was not raised at that event alone, from what I heard (I have friends that volunteer there every year) they had a lower turnout than years past and the 3 million raised, is probably a total of what OCRF rasied nationally for the year or total amount for all the years that they have done "Super Saturday".

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by StillFighting, Nov 03, 2008
I'd be more interested to know why they support pink when there product causes it.

I understand what your trying to do and say. If you support one and claim you are all about raising awareness and "saving lives" program then why not support the other ribbon colors as well.

Still I'm waiting for Phillip Morris to support that black ribbon on there ciggy packs.

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by JC145, Nov 03, 2008
An interesting thought ... teal ribbons on all tampon boxes, etc.  Just me thinking out loud ......... Judy

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by StillFighting, Nov 03, 2008
falls over laughing.

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by HonestDoctor, Nov 16, 2008
There is gang of people ruining people on fear of death. The fact that most people are made so fearful that very few actually opt for no tretment or conventional ayurvedic etc treatment, so all or most go in group of people, who take treatment. So the magic survival rate of so called higher in treated group(BECAUSE HIGHER NUMBER GOES FOR IT, AMONGST ALL). If all would be kept untreated, the overall avearage survival and quality of life of people will have, be much better , THAN THE AVERAGE SURVIVAL AND HOSPITAL BED LIFE OF TREATED PERSONS. But then this trillion dollor human fear and earn industry will cease to exists. We must accept, we have no cure for cancer and survival with the butchers knife, radition and killer chemo, is worse, than, if done nothing or done all changes in food work, sleep, rest, etc to make a healthy life style. And yes this ethical question haunts me from my student day in medical institute and even today as a doctor.

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by vegas2cr, Nov 16, 2008
to honest and ignorant doctor.. so I suppose I should throw my hands up and let cancer eat me up alive.. Thanks but no thanks I will take my chances on Chemo.. as my tumors were twisting and turniing my colon into mush and I was being poisoned I thank goodness I chose chemo... how can you possilby call yourself a doctor... yep let me eat brocolli and apples and apricot pits and I will live a long life... where did you come from

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by Janet535, Nov 16, 2008
To: Honet?Doctor??

I'm curious, just exactly what kind of "doctor" are you?

If indeed you are a doctor and see a patient with OvCa what do you say to them?

Something like "Well my dear, you have OvCa, I could first use my "butchers knife" on you and then pump you full of "killer chemo" but the bottom line is, this is a total waste of time because the only people this is going to benefit is the "trillion $ earn industry that is hoping your fear of death will earn them a little extra cash".

Do you seriously think that doing nothing other than simply "going home, getting a bit more sleep and rest and having a so called healthy life style" is going to give a person a better quality of life?

How can you possibly think, a person with tumors (and in some cases large tumors) in their stomach to the point their bellies are swollen and bloated, full of ascities which is causing extreme pain would be better off leaving them to grow to the point where by they are withered in pain be a "better way to deal with cancer".

As a "so called doctor" this is what you would prescribe for your patients!?

No one on this forum needs to be told "there is no cure". We are all perfectly aware of that fact. We especially don't need the likes of you, coming in here and spewing forth on how much better it would be if we just accepted that fact and moved on. It is perfectly clear by your post where you think we should move onto!!

I have come across some pretty despicable people on the net (hiding behind their user name and screen, writting things in a deliberate attempt to hurt and inflict pain) but you are with out a doubt the worst kind. Shame on you!

Perhaps a better screen name for you would be "DespicableQuack"

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by vegas2cr, Nov 16, 2008
Janet thanks for saying it well... despicablequack is better than dishonest doctor...or what ever this troll wants to call himself... cheers my friend... Ronni

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by Jan214, Nov 16, 2008
Come on guys, it is obvious that this person is not only not a Dr., but they have no education past maybe 8th grade.  Any Dr., no matter what country they come from would have better grammar than that.  My onc talks with Drs all over the world and he has a language program that can translate whatever he wants to say into an articulate email or symposium speech.   Isn't it obvious who this piece of filth is.  Who else do we know that talks EXACTLY like that.  Yes, that person's grammar mysteriously improved 100% overnight, but they could always revert to writing their own posts, so their own ignorance shows through.  I believe the person in question is so horribly lacking in education that they have been having someone else write their posts and journals.  This is the true form of how they write.  This person is obviously not honest and they are certainly not a Dr. Their level of ignorance is such that it is doubtful they could even get a job as a maid.  If it weren't so ugly this blatant attempt to get everyone to commit suicide by refusing chemo would be laughable.

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by margo1110, Nov 16, 2008
To "the doctor"

10 months ago I was swollen with ascities to the point I looked 8 months pregnant, was in extreme pain, could not eat but a few bites of food at a time, bedridden, needed someone to push me in a wheelchair to get to dr appts, etc.

After 2 rounds of "killer chemo" the ascities subsided, I was able to eat better, and walk short distances.

After 6 rounds I had the "butcher knife". I have healed well and although it has been no picnic, I do not think I would have been able to go to the mall last week (walking on my own) with my daughter, been able to cook dinners on a regular bases, hang out and have a good time with my freinds, and look forward to the holidays coming  up.

Without treatment I very well could be close to death. Sure glad you're not my dr.   Margo

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by Brownie3321, Nov 17, 2008
You know I've been taking a break from the forum, but this "doc" had me rolling on the floor with laughter, that  I HAD to respond. Deandra <------is clapping and holding her glass of wine to cheer the old quack we have known for some time because she has really outdone herself this time! 'Way to go you crazy piece of work!! One question though - how do you sleep at night??' Wow, that is the funniest thing I have read in a long time. Well ladies, she may be a quack, but at least we can get a good laugh by her posts and new screen names. "Honest Doc" - A CLASSIC I'd have to say. D

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by StillFighting, Nov 17, 2008
I'm glad you all understood what this loon was trying to say, I had to read it a few times. The grammer ***** big time.

However I would have to agree with certain aspects of your statement. The Industry does like to keep us all in fear. More people die from chemo treatments than they do from the actual cancer.  Because they do get malnurished. and dehydrated. People that choose to stay home with there family's versus going into a hospital yes I'm sure they do have a longer survival rate, because were reminded every day why we fight. We fight so we don't loose the day to day enteractions with our loved ones.

I will not get upset over the **** you have spilled here today, I understand that it stems from ignorance and fear and thats ok. I'll be brave enough for us both.


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by Jan214, Nov 17, 2008
I guess we could change the stats so that more of us die from cancer than chemo.  If we all refused chemo than we'd die from the cancer and that would show them huh?  Of course in most cases we would die YEARS earlier but what the heck it is just our lives.  Like those others who say stupid stuff like this, HD would be the first one running to the onc to get chemo if it ever got cancer. Only someone without cancer could talk out of their @ss like this.

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by Cindy809, Nov 18, 2008
HonestDoctor .... How would you react if your a doctor said to you "I'm sorry but you have cancer".  Would you be one of the "gang" running in fear to try and do anything possible to cure yourself?  Or, would you lay in bed and let this disease take you over?  I can see your yellow @ss running for your life.  I don't believe you are a doctor.  I think you are just a "Troll" that appeared here without filling out a profile to abuse people that are fighting for their lives!!!  How dare you?  Does it make you feel better?  Does it give you power hiding behind "HonestDoctor".  I'd like to meet you face to face and tell you that you have NO business being here without walking in our shoes, which by the way you could never fill.  You are a coward!!  I hope you never hear those words because I'm not the type of person to wish that on anyone.  I was just giving you food for thought.  

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