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octuplets mother asking for donations

Feb 11, 2009 - 111 comments

I just cant believe this  she now has a web site asking for donations . She wanted all of these kids but she expects others to pay for them.This is so wrong ...

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by dominosarah, Feb 11, 2009
I watched her interview with Ann Curry last night.  She is not on the same planet as we are..........no donations from this girl!!!

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by kim715, Feb 11, 2009
I watched it too and thought the same thing......I loved the part where she said most parents don't stop their lives and devote all their time to their children......OF COURSE THEY DON"T BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO WORK...so they can feed them and clothe them and put a roof over their head.Now 'most parents' will have to work more so we they can take money out of our checks to feed her kids too.No donations coming out of this house either!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by flmagi, Feb 11, 2009
This is an absolutly insane situation. This should not have been allowed to happen! This woman should have had her tubes tied after child #2. How did she think she would feed all these kids? She knew exactly where all the money would be coming from..........welfare and donations. But that won't be enough to support all the needs of all these kids til they're grown!  This woman CAN NOT be in her right mind. Out of touch with reality, and no real concern for the welfare and future of these kids.
The biggest shame is that these kids are now here and alive and must be taken care of. They should not suffer because of their mothers stupidity. But She should not benefit in any way, shape or form from welfare or donations etc.
I hope the doctor that helped her do this gets in big trouble!

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by MJIthewriter, Feb 11, 2009
Oh brother.........................................*sigh*

Why am I not surprised?

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by MJIthewriter, Feb 11, 2009
No donations from me either...........

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by teko, Feb 11, 2009
I feel so sorry for those babies! Gotta feel sorry for them! I really feel afraid for them. Wow!

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by bubbup, Feb 11, 2009
I wonder if she is obsessed with Angelina Jolie?  Even her lips look like hers and they look injected.  If that's the case, I'm wondering where the money came for the fertility, possible lip injections and the french manicure she had on the Ann Curry interview?  Bizarre case but like you all, I feel sorry for the babies!!

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by MJIthewriter, Feb 11, 2009
I really hope the Child Protective Services get ahold of her children, so they can have a better life.

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by HR_PuffnStuff, Feb 11, 2009
I noticed the nails too. Funny how she can pony up to get her nails done but can't support her children. I feel bad for the children as well and her poor mom and dad! They are stuck in a hard place loving their grandchildren but not wanting this insanity.

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by avisg, Feb 11, 2009
The sad thing is there so many people out there that cant have one child and would make wonderful parents to these children.

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by MJIthewriter, Feb 11, 2009
That's why I'd like to see the CPS come and take them away so that those children can go to someone who is able to take care of them.

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by zodiacqueen, Feb 11, 2009
Words cannot even describe how disgusted I am by the selfishness of this woman.  Knowingly getting implanted with EIGHT babies without a freaking job.  This was selfish beyond belief!!!  She didn't bother to think of what kind of life she could give those poor innocent babies.  This immature impulsiveness has shown that she is not capable of being a responsible mother to ONE baby, let alone 14!!

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by melimeli, Feb 11, 2009
she should donate her children to an adoption agency... and give them a chance at a normal life

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by dai3symae, Feb 11, 2009
I have a husband, one adult child a 3 dogs a home.....some days I don't even get time to take a shower!  How does a woman with 14 kids have time to create a website?

Brangelina are a little strange in the "look how many babies we have now" department also.....but at least they have a ton of money to support them.

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by msgorgeous, Feb 11, 2009
I saw on a site where it says she has an agent and wants a show on TLC like jon and kate plus 8 or 17 kids and counting. that is just crazy sounds like its just for the money and fame how hope those poor kids get a better home, i also read that she wanted a big family because she herself didnt have the best and she said hers was dysfuntional.

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by jankar, Feb 11, 2009
Had she been a heterosexual woman in a marriage with husband/father on board the whole world would have been running to give her money, sponsor her, etc.  So judgemental the lot of you - typical mainstream response to single motherhood.  Consider how the USA media has been reporting this and think how cultural values are in the hands of the media.

Every single responder in this message has been a woman except for one undisclosed gender - are we the protectors of good clean motherhood?

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by fretboard, Feb 11, 2009
What a pitiful lady, I only saw her once, but she's a real nut job.  I'm sure the county is gonna get involved and pull all those poor babies.  Hopefully they will all find good homes as that mama wants too much drama.lol  Everyone likes colorful ppl to an extent, but when it involves the lives of little children then nobody really gives a rats asss.  I was watching one of those news shows on CNN and some lady was saying that the drama mama wants to be another Angelina Jolie.  There are some similiarities, but c'mon Angelina Jolie is beautiful and stunning.  The drama mama doesn't even look as good as a bag lady and when she speaks her total ignorance shines straight thru.  Nope, she can't hide stupidity. lol  Or as they used to say in the neighborhood I grew up in, "you can't shine a terd".  I hope I didn't offend anyone, but anyone who tries to exploit children the way she is thinking of, deserves a big kick on the big asss. lol

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by gokuangel, Feb 11, 2009
The show was complete non-sense and you could tell she was lying about everything and made zero sense!! Even my husband said her lil voice she was making was the exact same one his mom uses when shes lying her butt off!! she admitted on that show she has no job no $$ no house nothing but yet she brought these babies into the world, she may have been saving all this money for IVF but what about the $$ to raise them $$ does not last 4 ever!!
I dont think single motherhood is the worst thing in the world but i dont know of any single mother out there willing to have so many when its such a struggle for them!!  But if she were married then yes more people would accepting of the idea but those peeps who gets donations are married couples who have tried and tried to have kids and cant and just so happened the fertility treatment worked and they got a multiple birth i have never seen any of those couples who received donations to be people living on welfare purposely bringing more children in this world when they cant support them!

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by Laceybug77, Feb 11, 2009
lol yea i think everyone is upset over this.  I was just reading about it a few minutes ago.Now the hospital is asking the state to reimburse them for the costs of the 8...wow.  I hear that when people have multiple births the family is usually taken care of by companies who donate things like diapers or whatever to get their name and product out there.  With the economy I wonder if anyone can afford to...but then with the public being so upset over it I wonder if anyone is dumb enough to go there.  SHe doesn't deserve it...but the kids shouldn't suffer for her stupidity...I think they need to be adopted out.  she's a whack job.

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by srsommer, Feb 11, 2009
It's very sad to me that this woman had the means to pursue infertility while already having 6 children she can't take care of financially. My husband and I are both hard working, loving and pray everyday for a baby. We will never be able to have children of our own, cannot afford fertility treatments and are pursuing adoption of older children that are currently in foster care. I just can't wrap my brain around this whole situation. I would give anything to be a mom- but certainly would never put myself or my husband in a position as bad as this one.

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by kim715, Feb 11, 2009
Jankar.......Judgemental????? Typical main stream response to single motherhood???? What in the world do you mean by that? I WAS a single mother for a few years.I have 3 kids and I worked 2 jobs.I have three kids because I couldn't afford 4 let alone 14.This woman ALREADY HAD SIX children and she CHOSE without an income,without a husband to bring more children into the world.I wouldn't feel any differently if she had a husband and THEY already had 6 children that they couldn't adequately provide for.This was not an oops,she intentionally brought more babies into an already strained situation.How in the world can you call it a 'typical response' it's no where near a 'typical situation'!!!!!

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by msgorgeous, Feb 11, 2009
If she cant afford to raise the six she already had y go and get inseminated??? with more when she knows full well she cant afford the ones she has. Its not judgemental its common sense. my mother was a single mother with 4 children she worked her a$$ off to provide for us.I agree with kim715 not an OOps. She cant expect america to provide for her children, she must be outta her mind to bring helpless babies into the world with no job no husband no income no home.NOTHING!!!!!

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by New Mommy 2 Be 2007, Feb 11, 2009
if she needs money how in the world did she pay for ivf so  many times come on!

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by MJIthewriter, Feb 11, 2009
jankar, you may have a point, but in this case it's hard to not be judgemental.

1. She has six already and her parents are caring for them. Her parents sound pretty strained already.
2. She wants more. Six children right there is quite a handful.
3. No job. How is she going to afford taking care of 8 more?
4. her goals to have a large family just because she grew up as an only child. That in itself may or may not be bad, but to me it sounds like she is trying to have children as an escape for a deeper problem.

Maybe I don't have much to say. I have a house full of African violets, but I rather it be that than collecting cats or having multiple children.

I am a bit harsh here. I am worried about those children. Add #5, she put her own self and her children at risk by trying to have 8 at once. Humans aren't designed to have litters and carry them to full term.  She could have risked her life or her kid's lives.  It would have been a different story if this was all accidental but from the sounds of it, it sounds like it was no accident.

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by kim715, Feb 11, 2009
New mommy,thats a good question.Does anyone here know the answer to that? I didn't get to see her interview last night from the very beginning so I don't know if they touched on that or not.

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by JoyRenee, Feb 11, 2009
Correction- she was implanted with 6 embryos. At the LEAST two of the eggs split if you take into consideration that maybe not all the eggs implanted but split instead.

I had no idea what to think while watching the show last night or what to make of the mom. But it's really not my place to say what a woman can and cannot do with her fertility. Her doctor was ultimately the responsible one and should've said, "Enough is enough" but instead she claims he laughed when she said she wanted to use the rest of her eggs and gave it the go ahead.

I did find it frustrating that her entire life is being picked apart- including pictures of her home. How many people I know who have homes like that that are run with children and messy (mine, fortunately, doesn't happen to be one of those but I get that people do have homes like that). Others have clothes piled and toys everywhere and a carpet that needs to be vacuumed but they don't have the entire world scrutinizing it.

Maybe the mom just really needs/craves attention; some sort of munchausen by proxy. She did admit to having children to fill a void in her heart and for her own wants/needs. Whatever is going on in that home, I hope they get the psychological help they need because it is aparent they need it. Watch out, Dr. Phil!

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by JoyRenee, Feb 11, 2009
NewMommy and kim715- her first rounds of IVF she worked double-shifts and saved up money. I do have to give her props for furthering her education but I do find it ironic that it is in psychology.

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by Sasha80, Feb 11, 2009
Did anyone watch Dr. Phil today???  All on this topic.  My take is that she wanted more children for the publicity.  If I have more children, I will have a tv show.  I don't know what show I was watching but they mentioned that this woman told Oprah that she would not do an interview under 2 million dollars.  Not sure if this is true but I wouldn't pass it by her.  I am hoping that after this, there are stricter IVF protocols and requirements for eligibility.  

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by gokuangel, Feb 11, 2009
I could not watch dr phil after last nites show that was enough!! i have heard enough of it!! and i agree after this there definetly needs stricter rules and regulations regarding ivf and IUI!! You know it really is bad enough when theres a single mom who never learns her lesson and keeps on having kids but its even sadder to do that on purpose! i cannot imagine what she was thinking!! it is such a big big decision to under go fertility treatments!! Thats why me and my DH have not that is HUGE we want to be prepared as much as possible if we are going to take it that far!! I know i need it but i am NOT gonna be a selfish person to my unborn unconceived child its just not right!!

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by kim715, Feb 11, 2009
I could not watch Dr Phil today either,last night was enough for me.Her answers to the questions that concerned her childrens future just infuriated me.How do you make the decision to bring more children into the world,but then have the 'fly by the seat of your pants' attitude when you're asked how you're going to feed,shelter and clothe them??!! Her own mother when asked what she thought about her daughters' decision to bring more children into the world on top of the 6 she already had,called it an unconscionable decision....I think gramma summed that up pretty well......

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by dominosarah, Feb 11, 2009
All i could think was CULT when i watched her last night.  Then they showed her reaching in to touch the babies with those fingernails manicured.......Had to look at the name tags to see which baby it was.  She is getting food stamps but she doesnt think it is really government help........I wonder what will happen when the rainbows and streamers she blew out her behind stop.......reality is going to smack her real hard.  God bless ALL 14 of them..........

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by melimeli, Feb 11, 2009
she has been on disability for like 5 years earning 165,000 in payments... doesn't seem too hurt to me if she is raised 6 kids and has been through a bunch of pg.. also she is recieving 420 a month in food stamps and that will more than double now.. 3 of her kids are on disability from the state.. I don't know might be a wise idea to concentrate on helping your 3 disabled kids instead of bringing 8 more in to take up your time.. whom I might add are more than likely to have their own diablities too... she lives off financial aid now... taking up a ton of money to live on that others need to use to study.. she does this more to afford to live than to actually study.. I bet she won't pay a cent of that back to us taxpayers... I owe 24,000 in student loans for one year and pay over 300 a month I can't imagine what all her years will add up to..  She is selfish and no on I mean no ONE married or single should have more kids when they can't afford the ones they already have!!!  She says she will be able to when she finishes studying... well dumb as s finish studying first!!  I can't stand her and I hope the state takes her kids away and gives them to loving SANE parents

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by kim715, Feb 11, 2009
I couldn't believe when she said that she doesn't think food stamps are government help.Who does she think supplies them,the easter bunny.Out of the 6 children she already had,3 of them are special needs children and she does get a monthly income for each of them,NOT saying there is ANYTHING wrong with that,but if you have 3 special needs children and 3 more already,don't you already really have your hands full?! How in the world does she expect to give each of these 14 children the quality time that they need,especially the children that require a little added attention??!!

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by kim715, Feb 11, 2009
Melimeli.....I don't think the taxpayers will be seeing that money back either.She says she will be going back to work,so if she does,whos going to watch all those children??!! I wonder if we'll all be footin the bill for daycare too.

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by dominosarah, Feb 11, 2009
Oh kim you silly girl..........of course its the Easter Bunny!!!!!  LOL

How will she be able to go back to work anyways??  Daycare for 14 kids??  She would have to be married to Donald Trump to afford day care.

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by Jacqui805, Feb 12, 2009
Wow, I guess I'll consider myself lucky that the only thing I got from The Easter Bunny was chocolate, peeps, and jellybean!  Mmmm, I just LOVE The Easter Bunny!

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by Lisad1180, Feb 12, 2009
What about the doctor?  It is unbelievable that he would perform these treatments...he should, at minimum, be censured for not refering her to see a therapist.

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by kim715, Feb 12, 2009
Jacqui,lets hope for those childrens sake that the easter bunny brings mama a gift certificate for therapy this year.My heart just aches for these kids.What type of mother is that selfish? Thats just so disgusting to me.

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by dominosarah, Feb 12, 2009
A very disturbed mother thats who.

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by Jacqui805, Feb 12, 2009
Like I said on another thread about this, no one does anything without motivation.  The motivation for the doctor(s) involved, as well as for this woman, is MONEY.  The woman has a multitude of psychiatric problems, and the doctors were just greedy.  She is seeking fame and fortune, and I'm not sure just HOW the docs thought this would pay off for THEM...but they thought it WOULD pay off, or they wouldn't have done it.  Something is amiss here.  I don't know what it is.  There may even be some hidden income on her part, that payed for her IVF, who knows.

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by Jacqui805, Feb 12, 2009
On the other thread that I commented on, I suggested that the mother and doctor(s) figured on some fame, and with that money, for the mother.  The doctors probably figured on a percentage of that money.

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by Jacqui805, Feb 12, 2009
and to Jankar:

Yeah, there are families here that get the media's attention, and then get all kinds of endorsements, donations, freebies, monies, t.v. shows, the works....but I'd like it to be known loud and clear, that just because it's on t.v. does not mean this is supported by the majority of Americans.  I think everyone here clearly stated their position on this woman's situation does not so much have to do with the fact that she's single, but that she can't support these children.

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by kim715, Feb 12, 2009
She was on disability for years but she said she stopped getting it when she became pregnant this last time.I'd love to know why she was on it.I would assume since they stopped it because of her pregnancy it would have had to have been for a medical reason,right? I'm thinking it stopped because they figured if she was able enough to already chase after 6 kids and get pregnant and carry mulitples,she couldn't be too disabled physically.

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by Jacqui805, Feb 12, 2009
Kim, the disability could even have been for psychiatric illness(es).  They may have figured that if she was being accepted as a patient by an IVF doctor, that they'd have reviewed her psychiatric status and was obviously cleared since they agreed to try to get her pregnant.

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by dominosarah, Feb 12, 2009
She had some story about getting hurt working in a state hospital or something like that.

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by kim715, Feb 12, 2009
Jacqui,I never thought about that.

Sara...I must have missed that part.So she was so injured that she couldn't work so she had to collect disability,but she was physically fit enough to already have 6 children under the age of 8 to keep up with,then get pregnant and carry multiples,and now keep up with 14 kids??!! HMMMMMMMMM  

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by dominosarah, Feb 12, 2009
I wanted to take a pin and poke her lips and watch them deflate..........

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by msgorgeous, Feb 12, 2009
she worked at a mental hospital recievied 165k within 6 years from 1997 to 2008...all 14 of her children were concieved by ivf.. the 6 other children are 2 to 7 years old. not sure if its true but u never know

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by Sasha80, Feb 12, 2009
I didn't get to see the interview last night but watched Dr. Phil.  She wasn't on his show...her spokesperson stepped in for her.  Could've slapped her spokesperson as well. Pretty sad.  I feel for the grandma as well as the children.  Making $40,000-50,000 as a psychologist is not going to support a fancy house and 14 children let alone pay for daycare.  

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by dominosarah, Feb 12, 2009
You couldnt buy diapers and formula on 40-50,000 a year.  This is more than sad it is tragic.........

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by kim715, Feb 12, 2009
I just went and looked.She was supposedly injured in a riot at the state hospital where she worked,in 1999.Oh and in regards to the food stamps,she said these programs are set up for people with legitimate needs and her and her children qualify for some of them so she doesn't consider it welfare.

Her mother said that she is lying about saying the doctor that performed the latest IV was the same doctor who did the other 6.Her mother said her and her husband begged the first doctor not to assist their daughter.Her mother also said that all 14 belong to her daughters one time b/f who wanted to marry her but her daughter wanted to have children on her own.

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by msgorgeous, Feb 12, 2009
it is soo tragic i went to the donation site and those babies it was soo sad seeing those pictures, they will spend two months in an incubator. they all weighed between 880 grams to 1.47kilograms soo small. what kind of life will they have with little or no money for a decent childhood.These days ppl are struggling to get by with the $40,000- 50,000 how the heck is she gonna do it NOW she has no income is she even going to school or is she just using the money??

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by kim715, Feb 12, 2009
Shes not going to school and according to what she said last night the students loans have run out.She did however say that she would be moving in to a bigger home[wonder where the $$ for that is coming from] and that she will have round the clock volunteers coming in and out to help with the kids.When asked how she intended to support the kids,she never did give a straight answer,she just kept saying she would provide for them.

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by dominosarah, Feb 12, 2009
She is just using the money BUT she said she was going to pay it back.........Whatever!!!!  They said last night that some of those babies may have disabilities like cerebral palsey but it is too early to tell.  She just smiled and said that was okay..........

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by kim715, Feb 12, 2009
I wanted to reach through the screen and wipe that smile off her face especially when they said ,because of their low birth weight,that they are at a 20-80% higher risk of having cerebral palsy.

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by melimeli, Feb 12, 2009
even if she does graduate isn't she studying psychology?   who would go to a wako like her???  I just wish that lack of time with kids was seen as neglect.  there is no way she can spend time with those kids... just spit your waking time between 14.. what does that leave you an hour a day with each if you don't do anything else.. that is neglect!  They should be taken away and given to parents that have the time and mental ability to support those special babies... in regards to john and kate.. they didn't set out to have a reality show... that is not the reason they got pg... they wanted children and a couple of years later they were asked to do a special that turned into a show... This lady was thinking dollar signs long before she gave birth... she wasn't even out of the hospital before she was saying that she wanted a reality show...  also john and kate work... kate is at home full time (cranky but home) her husband supports them. they are not on welfare.. they live pretty well better than a lot and all organic...  her kids have stability, and get the full attention on the stay at home mom... this broad isnt even at home to take care of the 14 she created...  I say if you are already on welfare and you decide to have more kids, you get no additional money from the state for the new ones.. if you can't afford to raise them you will have to give them up  or find a way to earn income...  WE should not have to suffer for your horrible planning... I don't need more money taken out of my check to pay for people ON welfare that DECIDE to have ANOTHER kid,  I would actually like to keep the money I earn instead of rewarding irresponsible parents for bad decisiones by paying them!!!  (but I don't feel strongly about this or anything hhaaha)

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by Jacqui805, Feb 12, 2009
Welfare, or no welfare, this woman KNEW the American public would donate their time, and support her children.  THAT is how she intended on "supporting" her children and taking care of them.  

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by kim715, Feb 12, 2009
melimeli......Well said and I would have never guessed that you felt so strongly about this.LOL

I couldn't agree with you more.

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by msgorgeous, Feb 12, 2009
I just watched the ann curry interview online and that woman must not be in her right mind. she was basically in my opinion saying that she will give them love support etc..and that will be enough for them..ann said that the mother has never been on welfare and does not want to be because it 2 hard to accept help she wont accept it.. she will rely on her friends family and church to help her out. but why the web site for the donations then if she doesnt want the help duh she needs to get her story straight

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by HelpinUtah, Feb 12, 2009
Avisg!  
I just want a couple of her kids!  Seriously, I have always wanted children and have not been able to afford adoption.  We did fertility treatment and it never took.  Then we had some rough years financially and everytime I would get pregnant I would miscarry.  So, this just saddens me knowing that she cannot care for them and yet God allows her to have them!  It's just so unfair!  Of course, God has a plan for everything.  I just hope these babies will end up being properly cared for!  
Hugs,
Janet

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by dominosarah, Feb 12, 2009
HelpinUtah..........i wish you could have a couple of those babies too.  There is no way she can properly take care of those kids.......no matter what it just isnt going to happen.

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by kim715, Feb 12, 2009
If you are getting food stamps you are receiving government aide in some form,and I'm not saying don't give her food stamps or don't double them now that there is 8 more mouths to feed.I don't want to see those kids suffer,but I can't stand the fact that this idiot is going to eat the food too.Shes using her kids as her meal ticket,it's disgusting.

msgorgeous...you got that right...she needs to get her story straight.

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by msgorgeous, Feb 12, 2009
i want to drive to cali and pick up those kids and bring them home with me..

whats disturbing is what the mother said she took a risk a gamble u dont gamble with babies lives. she wanted all the embryo to be implanted in her because the were hers her children.its her life mission to have children and be a mother

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by IMstacie, Feb 12, 2009
This women has a mental disorder, almost like compulsive hoarding with children.  She needs help!  Her own mother knows she has a problem.  And Jankar, this has nothing to do with her being single but everything to do with how she will be able to care for these children.  Two income families with 3 or more children are struggling, these days.  Children's services will step in, it's just a matter of time before we are paying for them.  The problem is no one can force her to get help.

If she had a house full of 14 cats or dogs- you can bet Animal Control would be out there removing the cats - OCD, I tell ya!!!!!

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by msgorgeous, Feb 12, 2009
I agree with you YuK

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by MJIthewriter, Feb 12, 2009
According to what I read on yahoo news and MSNBC, it sounded to me she's living in a fantasy. She thinks that she will finish her education and then magically get a job and be able to pay and take care of her children...

I don't know... I'm trying to get a job in photography and art, and well with the economy, it's very slim pickin's....

She will have a very rude wake up call, but I fear with all the publicity, that's not gonna happen....... Her poor children...

I just know my mom came from a family of 13 and an unstable mother, some died and some got adopted out. Out of those that grew up, my mom may just happen to be the most stable out of that family.  The rest have lived to have very difficult lives....

I hope that won't be the case with this family of 14, but I fear the worst....

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by MJIthewriter, Feb 12, 2009
YuK, Interesting and I'm glad that I'm not the only one who has made comparisons to her and a cat/ or other animal collector....  I've heard enough stories on the news about cat hoarders and it sickens me.

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by msgorgeous, Feb 12, 2009
Out of all the stories and news about ppl who have too many animals end up losing them and getting in trouble with the law. and out of those animals they find most are malnourished starved.sick almost dead..etc the list goes on and on... Is that whats gonna happen for the mother of 14 it would be differant if she was married or had her own job with a stable income..I grew up without a dad does that mean i need to go and find older men to be my daddy no i dont think soo.


MJ glad to hear your mother over came the odds hope that doesnt sound rude or anything. I just mean coming from her childhood shr rose above all that and made a good living for herself.


In 2006 the mother of 14 appeared on the la tv station that  ran a segment with her doctor that performed all the IFVs on infertility and embryo implantation first 15minutes of fame???

I have seen photos of her a few years back compared to the most recent ones and she looks like shes had some cosmetic surgery where did she get the money for that..does see want to be the next jolie???

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by msgorgeous, Feb 12, 2009
Out of all the stories and news about ppl who have too many animals end up losing them and getting in trouble with the law. and out of those animals they find most are malnourished starved.sick almost dead..etc the list goes on and on... Is that whats gonna happen for the mother of 14 it would be differant if she was married or had her own job with a stable income..I grew up without a dad does that mean i need to go and find older men to be my daddy no i dont think soo.


MJ glad to hear your mother over came the odds hope that doesnt sound rude or anything. I just mean coming from her childhood shr rose above all that and made a good living for herself.


In 2006 the mother of 14 appeared on the la tv station that  ran a segment with her doctor that performed all the IFVs on infertility and embryo implantation first 15minutes of fame???

I have seen photos of her a few years back compared to the most recent ones and she looks like shes had some cosmetic surgery where did she get the money for that..does see want to be the next jolie???

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by dominosarah, Feb 12, 2009
I noticed with her it was all about her and what she wants.  People like that dont care about anyone or anything around them.  That in my book is sickening.  Just too bad they cant see it!!!

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by kim715, Feb 12, 2009
You can definitely tell when you see earlier pics of her and look at her now she had her lips done,of course she denied that shes had any cosmetic surgery.

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by HeatherMA, Feb 12, 2009
Meli Meli you have very good points! Props!

The funny thing is I heard in an interview that she didn't want charity and did not expect other people to pay to raise her children--but she's apparently on food stamps and asking for donations!!!!!!!!!  OMG

And she denies "plastic/cosmetic surgery" Botox injections are not surgery...so I guess she isn't necessarily lying about that!

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by msgorgeous, Feb 12, 2009
kim yes you can she can deny all she wants but u see it i see it and im sure a whole lot of other ppl see it too.

Domino- its too bad they cant see it on the ann curry interview she said that having siblings for the 6 she already had is what she wanted not the 6 kids its what she wants.


The more i read and watch about this woman makes me mad and sad for those children. words from the mothers mouth she was stuggling with the 6 already she didnt think that the last ivf would take then y the heck do you go ahead and implant them?? the most she thought that would come from the last ivf was twins maybe.Her mother is paying all her daughters bills and taking care of the grandkids i thought after you had raised your children its all about you and what you want to do not taking care of your grown child and her kids. im not being mean its just what i see.

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by kim715, Feb 12, 2009
As a grandmother myself who just chases around 1 19 month old all day while my daughter is at work,I can not imagine how stressed and exhausted gramma has to be in all of this.

She said if her kids would have told her not to have any more babies she wouldn't have,then in the next breath she says the other 6 are just babies themselves so they weren't able to ask.The saddest part,it was all just sad to me where the kids are concerned,but they asked a few of the older kids how they felt about the 8 siblings.The one little boy said it would be fun because they could play with them but there would be a lot,of crying and the house will be more 'sqwooshy'.The little girl said that she knows that her mom will be really stressed all the time.I can't imagine what this is going to do to the 6 she already had,let alone the 8 new babies.How are the 6 older ones going to adjust to all these 'volunteers' coming in and out of their home everyday?How is that going to affect the child that has autism?What about the one who has ADD,how is she going to give them the attention that they desperately need?Simple things like how on earth is she going to ensure that the 6 older ones get enough sleep at night when there are going to be 8 crying babies up every few hours for feedings and diaper changes every night for months? God I hope some agency steps in and does right by these kids,because their mother surely hasn't.

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by novemberhoney11, Feb 12, 2009
All we can say is whatever.. she had them..she had her litter (not insulting anyone) I'm not sure what the probelm there was.. so she had six already..was she in some sort of mind to decide she wanted more? After all ready having six ( were they already taking care of the six without the states help) then decided she wanted another one only to be implanted with more then the standard three eggs (only women who have problems conceving, sorry to misspell) I only know about the egg count from my friend who trying(different for all women)..I guess she is pulling a Angla Jolie (but giving birth) to her little community...
What do you think should happen now... She had them... We will end up paying for them like we do everything else .... parking meters, speed bumps, trees in the middle of the streets and so on... We can sit and complain... but she had them, she will get her fame, she will not pay for medical bill (like we would) she will not pay for the car seats, the walkers the diapers and so on, because "oh wow" I'm suprised she is not on Oprah yet.. Just my opinon

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by MJIthewriter, Feb 12, 2009
msgorgeous, That's not rude at all. My mom is a very tough woman. I never really thought I would say that because as a child and as a teenager, I used to wonder why my mom isn't like _____, why couldn't she spend more time with me and whatever else... Most of all I used to wonder why we only visit my grandparents on my dad's side and almost never on my mom's side.  Much of mom's family are strangers to me.

But since I am an adult and can understand my mom better than I did, I see she did the best job to me that she could. That she should be very proud of.

My life could have been very different had she followed in the footsteps of her older sister who is an alcoholic.  She found out she had a problem and nipped it in the bud before I was born.  My mom is a very tough person. She can tell you what things she went through and the horror stories.  But the point is she made a decision and that was to not follow her family's ways and to bring me up the best she could.

My life has been considerably better because of her.


Yeah.... I worry about those children 8 + 6... Not to mention all the health problems related to being born premature... I just shake my head and feel bad for them. It would be one thing if it were an accident, but since it isn't, it makes it a different story.  BTW I thought her lips looked unnaturally huge, but didn't think anything further on it.

All we can do is pray for the children and hope they get help.

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by msgorgeous, Feb 12, 2009
MJ- your mother sounds like a tough strong woman and it seems she did a great job with you. I know a woman who was raised by a mother in the holocaust (SP?)also her sister killed herself now shes an alcoholic abusing the system spending the cash assistance at the local bars gambling it away. she didnt see the error of there ways and want to better her life or her childrens. her daughter was hit by a car when she was six shes now 24 living on her own which is good. some ppl choose to better there life and there are those that stay in that frame of mind in away. its good to know there are ppl out there doing the best they can such a your mother :) considering her childhood. props to her :)

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by msgorgeous, Feb 12, 2009
MJ- your mother sounds like a tough strong woman and it seems she did a great job with you. I know a woman who was raised by a mother in the holocaust (SP?)also her sister killed herself now shes an alcoholic abusing the system spending the cash assistance at the local bars gambling it away. she didnt see the error of there ways and want to better her life or her childrens. her daughter was hit by a car when she was six shes now 24 living on her own which is good. some ppl choose to better there life and there are those that stay in that frame of mind in away. its good to know there are ppl out there doing the best they can such a your mother :) considering her childhood. props to her :)

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by msgorgeous, Feb 12, 2009
MJ- your mother sounds like a tough strong woman and it seems she did a great job with you. I know a woman who was raised by a mother in the holocaust (SP?)also her sister killed herself now shes an alcoholic abusing the system spending the cash assistance at the local bars gambling it away. she didnt see the error of there ways and want to better her life or her childrens. her daughter was hit by a car when she was six shes now 24 living on her own which is good. some ppl choose to better there life and there are those that stay in that frame of mind in away. its good to know there are ppl out there doing the best they can such a your mother :) considering her childhood. props to her :)

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by MJIthewriter, Feb 12, 2009
msgorgeous, Thank you.  That's sad about the woman and her mother in the holocost. Trauma affects people in strange and ad ways.  Trama and dysfunctional families don't just affect the family, but also the children and grand children...and even further out...

I don't know the full story what my cousins are like and how they live their lives.  I just know it's been tough... I've been out of their lives outside maybe a handful of visits.  It takes a very strong person to break the chain of abuse, neglect, etc and rise above.



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by stella5349, Feb 12, 2009
In my opinion I think the doctor who created this mess - should be the one to fix it. I think half of his income should be ordered to her for support and she should lay off the state and government for a hand out.

He was the person who allowed this to happen - now he should take accountability for it.

Serogate child support payments for him! No welfare at all.

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by avisg, Feb 12, 2009
I agree Stella the doctor should bare some of the responsibility as well.My disgust has nothing to do whether she was a single as parent or not .I would not feel any different if it was a cpl that did not work and collected state aid  and already had six other kids . She was collecting disability for years because of a back problem yet she has given birth to 14 kids.

You are doing a disservice to everyone one of these babies when you have 6 embryos implanted in you the human body is not made to carry even 6 children these babies are going to suffer health problems for the rest of there life's .

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by melimeli, Feb 12, 2009
the state should sue her for the disability she lied to get.. she was obviously not too disabled to work if she got pg 8 times with a bunch of kids.... she worked in a state hospital I bet she could have been working at a desk somewhere there instead of at home collecting 165,000 in disability for doing nothing.  Don't these claims sometimes get investigated and then denied?  I thought I saw some hidden video on the tv one time of them busting people on disability that were then working in their garden and stuff... I don't know I think the public is mostly outraged and I don't think there will be a ton of donations and I don't think she will ever get a show... unless it is about how the state took the kids away

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by mami1323, Feb 12, 2009
I feel so sad for these children.  Not only the 8 new ones but the 6 she already has.  What upsets me is that the first 6 will feel rejected.  Like they weren't good enough or enough at all to make her happy.  She had to keep going.  How about dedicating your time to those children you already have?  She acts like a loving mother on camera, who knows how she truly is with her children.  If you look at her pictures from when she had her first child, her lips were not that big.  She obviously has enough money to get her lips plumped and her nails done.  I'm tight for money and haven't had a pedicure and a manicure in a million years.  If I was going to donate it would be to help those children.  Those are the true victims here.

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by SueNYC, Feb 12, 2009
Why shouldn't people be judgmental.  She has already proven she has not been able to take care of the ones she has - it seems her mother has borne the brunt of it.  If she had been married - knowing the family's financial situation- the country would have been equally perplexed.

Having one disabled child is bad enough.  She already has three - maybe that is why grandma who I think shouldn't have) is ratting her out to the public.   Autism usually curtails most people's urge to breed large families because all studies show that these kids are the hardest to raise.  her children's disabilities are so severe that the government grants them disability checks and still she wanted more.  I want my check since we have to pay top dollar to babysitters when we go out.  I had to quit working because his school demands that one parent be available at all times.  Maybe she is lying about her kids having all these disabilities - because she honestly wouldn't want to be near a syringe if this was true.  

I have a child with Asperger's - and it is heartbreaking at the pain both he and the family go through.  His school is 50K a year - but we pay over double that in taxes so at least I can say we are doing our part.  What has she contributed - except for fees to fertility doctors and plastic surgeons.  I even doubt her back injury - because if it was that bad she wouldn't risk carrying a megaload on it.

The woman is sick.  I spent three weeks in the hospital with one kid and didn't look so well refreshed as she did.  How does she do it?  She is amazing mom - or a psycho. Take your pick.

Most mega multiple births result in cp, cognitive and/or developmental delays and a ton of very expensive services.  I am not that upset that the taxpayers are picking it up - our representatives seem to have happily paid for Bush's ego war - but the fact that a human being would willingly create disabled children is beyond me - especially since she already house a house full of them.   thought the same thing about the Mc whatevers that did the same thing - you know why they didn't get their own shown - because 2 babies are on feeding tubes and can't walk.   they already had a child, had sex when their doctors advised against it (they know how many eggs were released), and then you and I pick up the bill.    Most people don't set out to have disabled children but people/couples that do - are sick.  Including Kate and Jon (who also were going against doctor's orders when they already had twins).  The taxpayers ended up paying for a baby nurse for at least 2 years.  I don't watch Kate and Jon but people say that the "normal" kids are not toilet trained at 4.  even my autistic kid pulled that one off.  These people do it on purpose - they easily justify it to themselves - and we as a society reward the cuteness of the mega broods.

DON'T GO TO FERTILITY DOCTORS TO BREED LARGE BROODS OF DISABLED KIDS. SOCIETY IS HAVING A TOUGH TIME PROVIDING FOR THE ONE IT ALREADY HAS.

At least the Duggars, though reproducing at an astounding rte, make healthy babies.  




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by msgorgeous, Feb 12, 2009
maybe she wants a movie to be made about her and she wants angelina jolie to play her :)

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by MJIthewriter, Feb 13, 2009
If she does that then that will be a movie for sure I won't be watching!

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by newgirl2708, Feb 13, 2009
I'm in California. I'm headed to bed so I can get up for work so Nadya can stay with her kids.

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by 40smama, Feb 13, 2009
I too watched the interview.  I find it very, very hard to believe that she was able to save $70K plus more to do that many IVF's - even w/doing double, triple, quadruple shifts.  Maybe she should've said some of that $$ to support the children she already had - a duh, I know.

My husband and I did only two cycles of IVF and it was hard on us financially & he has a great job.

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by Cherie762, Feb 13, 2009
hey all found out a few things first she went to Mexico for implantation..cheaper ...and I found her web sit boy is it set up she will take paypal,,,,and any credit car didnt wait long for that its thenadyasulemanfamilydotcom....its the @ sign not dot of corse Mh wont let it type that way check it out all intersting she will get millions my prediction ...the babys now weigh 3lbs a couple ounces ( not to bad) down to 1 lb and 3 ounces ( bad)........who knows why three of her elder kids are on diability I know one is autistic didnt catch why the other two are

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by bernie40, Feb 13, 2009
I think the ultimate responsibility here lies with the Dr who agreed to do the implantation.  This woman is obviously mentally ill and does not deserve our criticism and judgement.  The Dr should have done a full psychiatric evaluation of her and refused to go ahead.  Without the Dr she would never have have become pregnant with 8 babies.  This Dr should definitely be investigated and sued for malpractice - the money can then go towards the care of these poor wee babies.





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by LeftCoastChick, Feb 13, 2009
I have to agree with bulldozer, she should have had a psych evaluation done, both the blame goes to the doctor and the woman. I definitely think Munchausen's is involved, she has to to get the attention, which she is getting, but can't take care of them. I think the prudent thing to do, if the babies survive, is to have the state take custody and put them up for adoption. There are so many people in the world desperate for children. I can't, and it makes me so angry that this lady expects the gov't and folks to look after her. But I find, that many women have become baby machines to get extra welfare, I know in Alberta some do that. I worked for Parks and Recreation, a women  would come daily and dump her kids at the play ground, knowing fully well kids 5 and under couldn't be left w/out a parent   She couldn't be more then 25 had 7 children, all on welfare, she was getting a bundle, only 1 was school age. The kids were messy, undernourished, many smelled of urine and some didn't have shoes. I reported her to child services, and after they inspected her home, they were taken away. there was multiple empty bottles of booze, and hoards of scratch tickets lying around. ( I had a friend who was a social worker in that area) It truly makes me sick!!

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by bernie40, Feb 13, 2009
How can any Dr sanction implanting that many embryo's is beyond me?  The risks to her health and the babies must have been immense and shows complete lack of responsibility.  

The more I think about it (which I really shouldn't because it makes me cross) the more it does seem that this was a money making idea.

If this mother really is fully mentally sound then I can only assume that some kind of contract was drawn up between her and the Dr so that he would get a share of any "spoils" she gains from the publicity.

I have four children and find it hard work, I cannot even begin to imagine how I would cope with 14!



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by cowgirlnerd, Feb 13, 2009
I really think she is going for the Angelina Jolie thing - with no income to support a brood like that.  There has to be some child neglect if she has 14 kids that she can't support?  

AND where did she get the cash to do the procedure to have it done?  A friend of mine went through fertility treatments, etc., and it was REALLY expensive.   Who paid for it?  I think the doctor should lose their license.

It's sick.  Here in Alabama we would call it PWT (poor white trash).   Sorry!



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by mami1323, Feb 13, 2009
The gall of her to ask for donations.  She's apparently getting death threats, which I find to be a little overboard and disturbing in itself.  

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by MJIthewriter, Feb 13, 2009
bulldozer, I like your point. The doctor deserves to be held accountable for his part...charged for malpractice or something...losing his liscense would be a good idea.

LeftCoastChick, that's really sad about those children, but I'm glad you called child services and helped them to have a chance at a better life.

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by LeftCoastChick, Feb 13, 2009
I don't think because some one's uterus works doesn't give them the right to become a baby machine, they are desperate in China for female children since they messed up so badly on the one baby per family rule! I just am sickened  beyond belief, BUT getting death threats c'mon people snap back into reality oy!

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by Cherie762, Feb 17, 2009
You know all this happens alot more than we are thinking about how many moms on welfare pop out another baby when there about to get cut off because of kids being to old.....and the only other thing I can say in her defense is id ont believe she thought all embryos would implant.

Ok is it fair...no...life is not fair...is it fair teens have babys when married, educated, finacially set couples are infertile no,,,sadly friends life is not fair...that about sums it up....the death threats are so very wrong common ridiculous...let the woman alone she will be monitered after all this hype I just hope all those babies get the love they need Im feeling she will sell this story and be ok financially,....

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by DOVE33, Feb 19, 2009
to Cherie and anyone wanting to defend her............

there is a lot of unjust. But My darling loving friend married for 9 Yrs beutifull heart loving husband. They have wanted a child for 9 Yrs with no avail...... Yes teens are having babies. This hapens in this world "UNPLANNED". This women planned to do this. She had other children at home Im SURE FIGHTING FOR HER ATTENTION AND LOVE. MY 4 do it now '  and I'm married. She said hell with the outcome of the lil angels lives. I am thinking of me and me only. Yes she has commited a crime. These kids should leave the hospital with a DHS Worker. Closley monitored yes . She should be under as much scrutiny as possible. She was unjust to thoses inocent lives. Now the officials' Should be unjust to her to the fullest.............................

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by DOVE33, Feb 19, 2009
Yes I would love more children. But That would be unfair to my other children I already have 4. My heart and love could strech out to over 30 Children. But responsibley and non selfishley I could'nt and I wouldn't. I do beleive she will love her children as  any other mother loves there children. But most women need a lil of gods strength or prozac. This women needs a 24/7 Psycotrist. Dr Phil couldn't even help her. No she should not have death threats. All we can do is pray and I know this is wrong. But I am only  praying for the babies and her other kids. I pray  god looks over them and no matter what the crazy mom teachies them. Hopefully they listen to god only ......GOD BLESS THE CHILDREN

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by avisg, Feb 19, 2009
This may come as a shock to many on here that know me I absolutely do not think she should be able to take these kids home with her .Regardless of how many embryos she expected to take she was told how many did take ,she new she did not have a job ,she new she had six other kids some receiving state aid .She has no way to support 14children her mothers house is being put up for auction she will not have a place to take them home too.

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by dominosarah, Feb 19, 2009
I just saw that they are losing their home.  Hopefully some agency will step in here and do what is right.......for the babies.

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by NautyOne, Feb 19, 2009
She has money.  She has at least 350.000 ......she is going to be put up in her new TVSHOW home, and will do just fine.....she better collect all she can right now because in a month from now it will be "OCTO-WHO"  CPS can not let 14 children live in that home.  Its not safe or equipped for that many people.......something is gonna give, and Now Gloria All-red is getting involved.....Oiy !!

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by Cherie762, Feb 19, 2009
Dove......Im not really wanting to defend her .....Im thinking about the babies...they have no voice God Bless them they didnt ask to be born into such dysfunction......they deserve helpers for mom because THEY need to be held I dont care about giving mom a break I care about all those 14 kids and especially the 8 newborns get the food, clean diaper and love they need Im  hoping they get an advocate each......I dont judge other people thats not my place....am I impressed or a fan of hers not......she seems very selfish.....So hope that clears up how I feel ....dont care about MOM want those babies to be loved and not hungry dirty or unloved or bonded babies need to look at a face when they are feeding they need to hear someone talk to just them they need stimulation.....one biological mother can not do that not possible....yes ideally shed give them up for adoption....it would be lovely for the barren to recieve a child....thats not gonna happen .....I hope those kids have a chance to grow up normal.......she wanted big family cause she was an only child   her kids will alll grow up to want none...ahh who knows anyways I absolutley am not defending her ....its the babies...

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by MJIthewriter, Feb 19, 2009
avisg, I agree with you. I may at times play devil's advocate, but not here!

If anything I feel sorry for her autistic child. I was thinking about it and I can say from experience that ONE screaming, screaching baby/toddler is enough to drive me up the wall with two ears throbbing sore as if I was at a rock concert with two speakers right there at each ear...

Multiply that by 8 and I'm outta there..................... I'll be out of that house, hard to find, and will bolt off at any chance I can get...especially if I were at the age of her child. Since I don't know how much about her autistic child, I don't know where on the spectrum that child is.  At least I can verbalize it when I am about to have a meltdown. If her autistic child is nonverbal, then that will add another point of frustration.  I can expect meltdowns and fits for sure.....

I SERIOUSLY hope that she won't be able to take the 8 home.  She can keep her other 6 and care of them, but NO more.... If she wants more children, she can always volunteer or work at a job that involves children, that is if she is fit to be hired(?)

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by mtgoat911, Feb 25, 2009
octo mom definantly needs some therapy, believe it or not many/most people that work in mental heath have their own issues, myself included
right now as of this week, it doesnt look like octomom will be taking her kids home from the hospital, gloria allred offered her a program last week, were private funds will be set up for her to live in a nice house with 24 hour medical care for the babies
the premies all of them will need 24 hour care by a medically trained professional, not a best friend! the program is called angels in waiting
octo mom has not given the hospital or gloria an answer
it is reported that she is collecting disiblilty for a back injury, government grants for school, medicade on all her kids, 2 of her older kids are also on disbility, and all of the premies will be on medicate and recieve government services
i am really pissed about the disibility situation, my son has learning disibilities and we cannot get any help with our state disibility program! we have to be on medicade to recieve help, but we make too much money, but not enough for much needed programs, so i do it all myself, by reseaching and spending all my time helping my child, if i had that many children there is no way i would have time to help them with homework let alone one with a learninig disibility
how can you care for that many young children,
the show 17 and counting, which i watched once, has solved that problem by getting the older kids to take care of the young ones, but all these kids are babies!!!!!!

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by avisg, Feb 25, 2009
I heard that she has now been offered a million dollors to star in porn and if she is willing to do multiple movies thay will give her whole family medical ins.It gets odder every day.

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by DOVE33, Mar 03, 2009
TO Sum It all up.

This mom is not SAIN In no way should she raise theses kids if you find the NEW Video out of her argument with her mom. She is a rotten person. Look for the video. This will give us a better understanding of who she is. And how she views things.            
                              
here is the sight below

http://www. youtube. com/watch?v=KNcYTSy8jgk

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by joanieskiki, Mar 23, 2009
Why not show some compassion she didnt know that she would have 8 babies, if you dont want to donate dont,
but leave the poor girl alone, she is a child of god and there alot of god like people that will help her.

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by Cherie762, Apr 18, 2009
Joanie agree with you completley who are we to judge, and she did not plan to have 8 at once, she could have choose selective abortion and on moral grounds did not so kudos to her, and many women 2 generations ago had 12 plus children, not all that uncommon of course they were married,,,so lets just say God Bless her entire family.

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by amac56, Oct 02, 2009
What is the answer to this very important social problem?  State sanctioned euthanasia?  That would rid the world of this evil woman and her children.  Teach the world a lesson not to repeat this serious criminal act.  It seems this would be the best solution as so many comments suggest outrage and malice towards this sorry excuse for a woman.  Many comments ignore the fact that helpless human beings are an inseparable part of this complex and again very serious transgression.  It seems that this blatantly unconscionable act excludes any concern for their existence.  As a society of concerned citizens we must find an answer quickly.  We cannot allow this deviant criminal behavior to be repeated.  

Agree?

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