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Apr 06, 2008 - 4 comments

Comments in brackets are my thoughts.[ ]

[Warning. If you are on anti-Depressants, use medical supervision on L-Tyrosine, SamE and all mood enhancers. There can be a risk if taking L-Tyrosine, 5 HTP  if you are on a tricyclic  or a MAIO antidepressant's ...It can cause a spike in blood pressure.]

Thomas Detox Recipe
PLEASE NOTE: I am not a doctor, simply a long-time Rx opiate junkie who has had many opportunities to develop a way to detox. This is a recipe for at-home self-detox from opiates based on my experience as well as that of many other addicts. It is not intended as professional medical advice. It is always wise to make sure none of the recipe ingredients or procedures conflict with medications you may be taking. Likewise, if you have any medical condition, disease, allergy or any other health issue, consult your doctor before using the recipe. Thanks, Thomas

This recipe is designed for cold turkey opiate detox. It assumes that you can get about 5 to 7 days away from your job or household responsibilities during which you can sleep, veg and act as miserable as you feel. Opiate WD mimics the symptoms of the common flu, so, if you need a smokescreen, hide behind a bad case of the flu.

If you can't take time off to detox, I recommend you follow a taper regimen using your drug of choice or suitable alternate -- the slower the taper, the better.

For the Recipe, You'll need
Valium (or another benzodiazepine such as Klonopin, Librium, Ativan or Xanax). Of these, Valium and Klonopin are best suited for tapering since they come in tablet form. Librium is also an excellent detox benzo, but comes in capsules, making it hard to taper the dose. Ativan or Xanax should only be used if you can't get one of the others.
Imodium (over the counter, any drug or grocery store). [generic brand anti-diarrheal is fine. Don't take it unless really uncomfortable]
L-Tyrosine* (500 mg caps) from the health food store.* [See Warning]
Strong wide-spectrum mineral supplement with at least 100% RDA of Zinc, Phosphorus, Copper and Magnesium.
Vitamin B6 caps. [or stress B-complex?]
Access to hot baths or a Jacuzzi (or hot showers if that's all that's available). [many gyms offer free trials]
How to use the recipe
Begin your detox with regular doses of Valium (or alternate benzo). Start with a dose high enough to produce sleep. Before you use any benzo, make sure you're aware of how often it can be safely taken. Different benzos have different dosing schedules. Taper your Valium dosage down after each day. The goal is to get through day 4, after which the worst W/D symptoms will subside. You shouldn't need the Valium after day 4 or 5. [melatonin worked well after day 4 for me. Sleeplessness sometimes hangs on awhile]

During detox, hit the hot bath or Jacuzzi as often as you need to for muscle aches. Don't underestimate the effectiveness of hot soaks. Spend the entire time, if necessary, in a hot bath. This simple method will alleviate what is for many the worst opiate W/D symptom. [I like Epsom salts in the tub. Forces Magnesium into the muscles]

Use the Imodium aggressively to stop the runs. Take as much as you need, as often as you need it. DON'T TAKE IT, however, if you don't need it.[Diarrhea is the bodies way to aid in the detox so take Immodium or generic for the comfort factor, if needed]

At the end of the fourth day, you should be waking up from the Valium and experiencing the beginnings of the opiate W/D malaise. Upon rising (empty stomach), take the L-Tyrosine*. Try 2000 mg, and scale up or down, depending on how you feel. You can take up to 4,000 mg. Take the L-Tyrosine* with B6 to help absorption. Wait about one hour before eating breakfast. The L-Tyrosine* will give you a surge of physical and mental energy that will help counteract the malaise. You may continue to take it each morning for as long as it helps. If you find it gives you the "coffee jitters," consider lowering the dosage or discontinuing it altogether. Occasionally, L-Tyrosine* can cause the runs. Unlike the runs from opiate W/D, however, this effect of L-Tyrosine* is mild and normally does not return after the first hour. Lowering the dosage may help. [*Read the Warning first! *L-Tyrosine* is great. *SamE 400* mg works for mood too]

With breakfast, take the mineral supplement.

As soon as you can force yourself to, get some mild exercise such as walking, cycling, swimming, etc. This will be hard at first, but will make you feel considerably better. [Walking gets the blood and lymph systems working, helping you detox better.]

PLEASE NOTE: If you have any medical complications, first check with your doctor before detoxing to verify that this regimen is safe for you. [Very important note]

[WARNING If you are on anti-Depressants, use medical supervision on L-Tyrosine, SamE and all mood enhancers. There can be a risk if taking L-Tyrosine, 5 HTP  if you are on a tricyclic  or a MAIO antidepressant's ...It can cause a spike in blood pressure.]




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by realscared525, Apr 26, 2008
PLEASE GET BACK TO ME: I AM MOSTLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE MENTAL STATE,EMOTIONAL PANIC.FROM WITHDRAWAL.SOME ONE TOLD ME TO TRY SUBOXENE BUT THAT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING ELSE TO GET ADDICTED TOO..I AM SO WORRIED AND SCARED.  I HAVE BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH PANIC ATTACKS,FOR 15 YEARS...REALLY APPRECIATE FOR SOMEONE TO GET BACK WITH ME, DONT REALLY KNOW HOW TO START, TO STOP TAKING THE PILLS,
EVERY MORNING,WHEN I WAKE,BEFORE I TAKE THE PAIN PILLS, I FEEL THIS HORRIBLE SINCE OF DOOM,SHAKEY, MENTALLY REALLY STRANGE...PLEASE HELP ME IF YOU CAN......DEE
ANYONE
I WOULD ESPECIALLY LIKE TO TALK TO SOMEONE WHO HAS TRIED THE THOMAS RECIPE...

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by Shekinah777, Dec 02, 2008
Hi there,

I do not have any advice as I am going through the same thing.  I can't even get out of bed before taking a pain pill.  I am trying to find the quickest way to detox as my husband decided to give me one today after I've been taking 6 7.5 hydrocodone, 8-10 xanax 4 ativan and often 2 flexeril and maybe a valium each day.   Today after 1 vicodin ( the last one I have).  I actually made it through the whole day of work (run my own business...screamed at everyone all day) and took 2 ativan, 2 xanax and 3 valium.   Tonight I feel like I have the major flu...

I guess I can say to you I am real scared too!  I feel your pain and hope to get some more advice on this home remedy too.  I am on an antidepressant called Lamictal too...This and the pain killers is the only thing that has kept me alive.

Please anyone...any advice would be life saving!!!

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by g33k, May 19, 2009
I am currently on day 1 of a very long addiction to lortab taking about 200-250 milligrams a day. Im still going through the severe aches from about mid torso down. Feels like charlie horses in both my legs, my stomach is in a really tight painful knot, and my lower back is absolutely killing me. Nothing has helped so far, I just lay here on the couch and deal with it, shaking or bouncing my legs while laying down takes some of the painful tingle out of them so I do that until I get so tired I finally just pass out from exhaustion. This is my 5th attempt to detox at home just white knuckling it. Hang in there everyone and Ill be praying along with you.

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by Lwest413, Oct 19, 2013
Can anyone actually post whether this Thomas recipe helped? I am titrating down from about 6 or 7 10 mg hydrocodone per day. I would like to know whether to start now with the supplements or wait until actually done with the weaning down and am out of pills. Reading your attempts at cold turkey is not useful. No offense but it just scares folks. I'm in horrible pain from a spinal laminectomy and tethering syndrome but I am sick of being dependent on pills.

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