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May 16, 2009 - 34 comments
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Last night I went to the ER for a dressing change that involves unpacking and repacking 2 newly drained abscess areas.  As I arrived, the pain became sharp and shooting and I was not able to sit; no position was comfortable.  We went through the normal check-in process with standard questions, BP check and an ID band and was taken back to an exam room.

Once into a hospital gown and a sheet, I laid down on the table with my head elevated and my knees bent.  The doctor arrived and peeled the foamy tape off my abdomen, which covered almost my whole left side of my tummy .. from just above my belly button down to my leg, from hip to midline and it felt as though my skin was coming with it.  Please excuse my graphic description .. but the upper abscess had purulent drainage (pus) that rolled out of it and completely saturated a 4 x 4 piece of gauze.

Now, just to be clear, I am able to handle a great deal of pain.  Having lived and worked with migraines all my life, having given birth and had gallbladder attacks and surgery, I can take a lot.  Even at the height of this abscess, the highest pain level was felt to be a 6.  Last night upon arrival, my pain scale was a 7.

Here's the situation that unfolded that I want to ask for your opinion .. in a question I will pose later.

The doctor unpacked the two abscesses (one below the original one and one above it).  The one above it was as sore as a boil and my pain level shot to a 10 .. would have said 12 but 10 it the top of the scale.  As the doctor took tweezers and began to poke the tweezers and the 1/4 inch gauze into the abscess, I tried everything in my power to stay still and instantly began crying/sobbing with the very severe pain and asked the doctor to stop.  I asked that he please give me something for pain or to anesthetize the area.  He said there was not and he began again.  This time, the extreme pain caused me to scream with pain (and I'm no screamer) .. and although I tried my best to lay still, I inadvertently moved my hands to the area of pain in a guarded fashion .. and begged him to stop and do something that I simply could not sit still with that much pain.

The doctor threw the tweezers and said let me know when I was ready and he'd be back in an hour and angrily left the room.

Not only was I sobbing from the pain, my feelings were hurt beyond belief.  This pain was double the pain of the initial abscess and opening it up!  I was left alone in the exam room with feelings of wanting to flee and yet realizing with MRSA, to do so could cost me my life.  I felt such despair, aloneness, frustration, depression .. it was horrible.

About 7 minutes later, a nurse came in and basically treated me as a child and wanted to know if I was going to let the doctor finish.  It felt condescending as he told me his 3-year-old child had had this done.  

I again asked for something for the severe pain and informed him I had a high tolerance for pain; this was different.  He said he would talk to the doctor and asked that I let the doctor finish.  I explained I was and would continue to try and cooperate and that perhaps the doctor could exhibit just a little bit of compassion and professionalism; throwing an instrument and storming out of the room was simply not necessary.

The doctor re-entered the room and began again.  I explained my high pain tolerance to him and told him I truly tried to lie still.  He then asked if I wanted something for pain and I told him that is what I had asked for from the beginning.  The previous session had let the upper abscess be packed twice so he felt it was enough.  He worked on the lower abscess and while painful, it was most tolerable.

The doctor told me he did not cause this .. and I'm still wondering about that comment.

After that, he ordered a small dose of morphine that was given in my hip, I was bandaged and came home.  The pain continued in the upper abscess, despite the pain med and shot .. and additional pain meds at 3:00 am.  I was finally able to drift off to sleep at 4:00 am and awoke again with pain at 6:00 am.

So .. here are the questions.

1.  Do you believe the doctor's actions were appropriate?
2.  Do you see any reason the pain medicine couldn't have been administered first?
3.  I am somewhat concerned of the extreme pain and the fact that I am still having pain today.

I was told to leave the dressing alone until Sunday and return at that time for a dressing change.  The nurse also told me to continue with my antibiotics and be sure to take them. It felt as though they did not feel I was taking the medication as directed or that I was somehow not taking care of the dressings.

How infuriating it was since I have been setting an alarm and waking up in the middle of the night to be sure my medication is taken every 6 hours like clockwork and I've followed every instruction regarding my wound care .. like warm, moist heat packs every 4-6 hours.

I am quite nauseated and simply do not feel well so I am going back to bed.  In fact, I don't feel as good as I did a few days ago.  Am hot and going to go turn on the fan to cool down.  Am trying my darnedest to get well and get back on the community.  You have no idea how much I miss all of you ...

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by Barb135, May 16, 2009
Wow, that sounds like quite an ordeal, Ranae.  I was wondering if something had happened again since I hadn't seen an update for a bit.  

Did you ask for pain med at the beginning?  Did the doctor give any indication as to WHY he wouldn't stop and administer something for pain?  Are you seeing the same doctor each time you go to the ER?  

To answer your questions:
1.  No I don't think the doctor's actions were appropriate.  If it was okay to give pain med AFTER, it should have been okay to give it prior to prevent that much pain.  Sounds as though he was being a bit "prickly" - nice way of saying he was an A**........... lol   Sounds like he might need to learn a bit of "bedside manner".  
2.  I answered that with # 1.
3.  Did he give any indication as to WHY there should be so much pain?  AND it DOES seem kind of strange that he would comment that "he did not cause this" - was he referring only to the current pain or did he think you were blaming him for something else?  Well, quite frankly, the current pain WAS his fault because if he had administered pain med to begin with, it would never have escalated that far........  I wonder if the continuing pain is because of the poking and probing that he did when cleaning the wound.  Since the area is very tender and sore anyway, I can see where that type of procedure would aggravate it that much more.  I think, if *I* were you, I'd ask for pain med at before they get started tomorrow when you go back for dressing change; that way maybe you can prevent it from getting so bad..  

Try not to feel too badly about the pain........... some things just flat out hurt more than others.  I have a very high tolerance for pain also, but once in a while, something is bound to be more than I can take.  

AND remember - whenever the doctors tell you to do something that doesn't work like they think it will, they are bound to blame the patient for not doing something right.  I know when I started on my thyroid med and didn't begin losing weight right or feel better right away, the doctor accused ME of not taking the med right, eating right, exercising enough, etc - it had nothing to with ANY of that --- it was simply that I was not on the right dosage of the right med..........  

Try to hang in there - you will get through this.  Be brave.  Be strong.  We are all here still praying for you.....

Best wishes for a speedy recovery..............
Barb


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by wonko, May 16, 2009
1.  Do you believe the doctor's actions were appropriate?

No, no, and NO!!!  You are correct, it was unprofessional, intimidating, and inappropriate for him to toss his instruments in a display of anger that YOU DID NOT CAUSE.  He must have some serious issues.  I'm sure an ER doctor faces a lot that can leave them in a distressed state, but it is their job and their OATH to not take that out on you.  Inexcusable.  Ranae, I'm so sorry you went through that.

2.  Do you see any reason the pain medicine couldn't have been administered first?

I know the last time I was in the ER (car accident) I wasn't given anything for muscle trauma.  They do seem to hesitate.  However, you've been returning to them with this problem.  They should have some clue who you are and what you are going through by now.  Given your circumstance, I think they should have listened to your first request.

3.  I am somewhat concerned of the extreme pain and the fact that I am still having pain today.

I can't tell you what to do about that, but I can say that you shouldn't let that awful doctor's treatment stop you from going back or calling before your next appointment.  Don't shy away from proper pain management just because of that awful doctor.  Listen to you body and trust your own judgment.  

I'm about to hit the ceiling here from outrage!  I'm glad you're keeping your cool and being so brave!  Hang in there!


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by April2, May 16, 2009
Oh how awful! I too am outraged for you! What an insensitive jerk for a doctor. I think I would have thrown an instrument at him! Or maybe the whole tray of instruments! You poor thing. I feel so bad for you! I cannot understand why some doctors even are in the field of medicine if they can't be more caring towards their patients. Unbelievable. I don't think I'd be going back to that doctor if it was me.
Is there someone who can go with you next time? A husband, sister, friend? Someone needs to be in your corner to back you up and insist on caring treatment and meds if needed.
I'm so sorry this has happened to you. I sure hope you can be feeling better in no time and that your recovery is quick. Blessings and prayers to you.
April

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by Ranaesheart, May 16, 2009
Just woke up from a nap and moving very gingerly.  Truly appreciate your perspectives, thoughts and observations.  

I did ask for the pain medication first and agree that if they can be administered afterward, there is no reason they could not have been administered before.  The ironic thing is that in each and every room, and at the time of check-in, there are pain scales posted everywhere with wording that says to tell the doctor the pain level as there is no reason for a patient to have to experience pain.

Believe the pain from this particular abscess is due to the rolling infection.  I've been on antibiotics for 9-10 days now .. can you imagine how strong this infection must be to still have a pocket of purulent drainage at this point?  It truly felt as if it were a boil down under my skin.  

I do see different doctors as this is the county hospital where there are residents and interns and ever-changing schedules.  This particular doctor is one I saw the first and second nights and he did the initial I&D (incision and drainage) of the first abscess.  While I do agree they can experience many patients and levels of patient professionalism, I feel totally misjudged and that his behavior was absolutely not according to medical standards.  The fact he didn't apologize or show compassion tells me more of his character .. and I am taking your advice to take someone with me next time.  I have hesitated doing so because the wait can be long .. up to 5 hours .. and I do not like to impose on others.

Thank YOU ALL for your reassurance, thoughts and prayers .. and for taking the time to share your comments.  As I was sobbing and wanting to flee the ER last night .. I thought of my MedHelp family and all the support you have given .. and drew my strength from there.

Bless you ..

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by teko, May 16, 2009
Why does he feel like he has power over you? Jerk!  I would honestly get a second opinion, apart from going for these treatments, something is not right!  I would go ahead and continue what you are doing as scheduled.  But I would go to someone else for a 2nd opinion as to how serious this is, how you got it, etc. Something is up and the doctor sounds paranoid. You poor thing, follow your gut! Follow up on it and demand some answers. This is nothing to play around with. You are at this doctors mercy and he knows it. Take someone with you next time, to witness what goes on. Dont put yourself alone with this doctor.

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by lonewolf07, May 16, 2009
I don't really know you or what you are suffering from but it sounds painful on a number of different levels.

You asked:

1.  Do you believe the doctor's actions were appropriate?

No.  He was acting like a little kid and seems to have a huge ego.  If he felt "hurt", he should have discussed it with someone else, not take it out on you.  Maybe he needs therapy.

2.  Do you see any reason the pain medicine couldn't have been administered first?

I'm not a dr or nurse but even dentists freeze the area they are working on.  Recently, I had a heart attack and had to have a balloon/stent put in one of my arteries.  When the dr made the incision in my leg, he made sure that area was frozen so I wouldn't have to feel the pain of the injection.  It seems like your dr wasn't listening when you asked for pain meds.

3.  I am somewhat concerned of the extreme pain and the fact that I am still having pain today.

The pain is real, I'm sure - but do you think that the dr's behavior might have made it worse?  Can you find another dr?  No one should have to put up with that - patients have rights too.

Hope you're feeling better asap  = )

wolf




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by Ranaesheart, May 16, 2009
No one can say for sure how I contracted the MRSA infection, however, it follows the time line of an injection of Cortisone I received for what was thought to be scar tissue in my tummy.  MRSA is a bacteria found on the skin of 1/3 of the population and is benign unless it enters the body through cut, scrape, injection, etc.  Also, a person who has an active infection of MRSA should stay away from those persons whose immune systems are compromised .. like a cancer patient receiving chemotherapy or a person with leukemia, like my granddaughter.

It is possible the MRSA bacteria was introduced into my abdomen with the Cortisone shot and the Cortisone would have also suppressed the tissue and given the bacteria a green light to grow.  As the abscess grew, I returned to the original doctor who thought it was perhaps a spigelian hernia.  A spigelian hernia is hard to diagnose and runs along the side of the six-pack abdominal muscles.  He thought I needed a surgical consult and we were trying to figure out how to do that without insurance when it grew to the size of an egg and the skin started to discolor.  

My first ER visit was at a private hospital where the above history was given and told the doctor and PA were informed that no tests had been done to formally diagnose a spigelian hernia.  Before running a CT scan or administering any pain meds, he began trying to reduce the mass back through my abdominal wall - thinking it must be a hernia.  He did this for 5 minutes and I was in incredible pain.  The Physician's Assistant who witnessed this told me she did not understand this and thought pain meds should have been given.  (This is a separate incident from the one above and I did have a friend with me that night.)  In hindsight, I believe this physician helped spread the infection throughout my abdomen as he was pushing on an abscess and there was absolutely no tear in the abdominal muscles .. in other words .. no hernia.  He sent me home on oral antibiotics.

The following day, the abscess had swollen from egg size to baseball size and, having no insurance, I presented to the local county hospital.  All the treatment from that point forward has been done there with a variety of doctors and waiting times.  Up until last night, I had been treated kindly and professionally and they were "spot on" on the diagnosis.  The oral antibiotics were continued after the first I&D and upon rechecking, I was put on IV antibiotics for a few days because a second abscess was forming on my hip.  After that, I was told to continue the oral antibiotics when these 2 new areas seemed to close off and form their own pockets.  At that time I returned again and they were opened and drained as well and the hip area was aspirated.

If the pain does not clear soon (supposed to go back tomorrow) and if not remarkably better by then, will press the issue and make sure they understand this is not normal.  And, I am taking someone with me!

So .. 3 areas were opened and drained .. 2 are healing and this 1 is still hurting today.  There is a 4th area on my hip that was aspirated and also contained purulent drainage, which was sent to culture.  Am going to go early afternoon tomorrow and barely have enough pain pills to get through tonight.

Thanks again .. am going to hunt down a thermometer as I am feeling hot and cold and am worried about a temperature.  Really don't feel well and if this continues, I'll be going back later this evening.  Do truly appreciate your advice, thoughts and prayers.

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by margypops, May 16, 2009
I had something similar happen to me at the hands of a dentist last year , the procedure even went wrong ..I felt as if I was being tortured.....check with a lawyer Hope you are feeling better soon I had PTSD from it , takes time to get over something like this there are lunies out there , actually the guy who hurt me was definatly at the end of his career as a dentist and was very forgetful,it soon became obvious he didnt know what he was doing,  I noticed this when I first met him  and still let him do the procedure.

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by 122 Tactical Fighter Group, May 16, 2009
The Docs actions were unprofessional inexcusable. Thats all I will say about that one. I cant call the pain med or anything like that since I am not a physician and dont really know your history. But there are plenty of topical apllications to anesthetise an area ....lidocaine is usually used. And a the very least a darvon should be offerred initially.

I did a round of chemo and have some experience there. In response to you mentioning nausea - - recent studies show that 1 to 1 1/2 grams of ginger daily virtually eliminated the nausea of chemo patients. Just thought that I would pass that one on.  Good luck to you.

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by wonko, May 16, 2009
Taking someone with you sounds like a GREAT idea, give what you've been through.


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by teko, May 16, 2009
theeagle, that was a great idea about the ginger. I have also heard that some people just get the gingerroot and chew on it.

If it were me, I would be very concerned about this, as long as it has gone on and how it keeps spreading. It sounds like it is very possible that an unsterile needle was used to administer the cortizone injection. Regardless of insurance, state funded hospitals have to treat. This IS one good part of our healthcare in America, then if you cannot pay, they will write it off.

If it were me, feeling as you feel now, I am not sure I would wait until tomorrow, and if you do have a fever, get to a hospital and refuse to leave until it is under control. Keep us posted k?

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by Barb135, May 16, 2009
Do be sure to take someone with you (*I* would go with you, if I lived close enough) and don't hesitate to go back this evening if things don't start feeling better.  Maybe you will get lucky and get a different doctor???  I do hope they will be more compassionate next time and give you pain med from the very beginning.  The stress of the doctor's behavior could very well have added to the pain factor.  

Praying for you.  

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by Joeysfoxymama, May 16, 2009
Wow, he showed very poor bed side manors. I am sorry that you had to go through that. There are doctors that dont have any sort of compassion for other people and what they are going through. I am sure if I were in your shoes I would throw those tweezers at HIM!
I agree with the others, if you are in a lot of pain, you are having a fevor and just dont feel good, get and appointment or go back to the hospital. If your gut is telling you something, listen to it! I would go with you to make sure there are no dr meanies, but, you know where I live :(.
I hope your feeling better!

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by ireneo, May 16, 2009
Sometimes they cannot give pain meds ahead of time if the patient is in shock or has some unknown trauma. Since this was wound management, I don't see why he waited to give the meds unless he was in a hurry and didn't want to take the time. There are doctors that just forge ahead and want to get the job done.

As for his behavior, that was unprofessional. I know doctors are human too but throwing instruments is crossing the line. If you want to, contact a patient advocate at the hospital where you went. The staff may give you the run around and try to divert you from seeing one but you have the legal right to speak to a patient advocate if you have a concern or complaint. At the least, his behavior will be noted and he'll be spoken too. Probably no worry about him losing his job over this but he was a bit of a brat.

I think if you go in and he shows up again, you also can ask for a different doctor to treat you.

I'm sorry about the MRSA. That's nasty stuff and takes so blasted long to clear up. Take care. Don't feel bad for being upset about the pain. No matter what our personal pain tolerance may be, it's up to the hospital to handle it and keep us comfortable. It's not an endurance contest.

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by margypops, May 16, 2009
Ginger is great for Nausea You can use it for car sickness and going out sailing it works every time..

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by Melissa0116, May 16, 2009
I also used ginger when I went off my depression meds to help ease the dizziness and nausea.  They have ginger tea and it is yummy and very soothing.  

I am so so sorry that this is happening to you and will keep you in my thoughts and prayers.  I would definitely get a second opinion.  This is a very serious matter regarding the inappropriate behavior of a Doctor, PA, or anyone for that matter.  I would seek a lawyer regarding the cause of MRSA and the lack of compassion from the Doctor.  This is the type of case in which you definitely should seek representation.  You have the right as a patient to demand a different doctor and they cannot refuse to allow you to seek a second opinion.  

God Bless

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by TrudieC, May 16, 2009
Ranae, I am so concerned that these infections are continuing and that you are having such pain and fever.  It sounds like you have a good plan moving forward by taking an advocate with you with your visit tomorrow and if you are assigned that doctor do ask to be assigned to someone else.  I am hoping that you will be able to make whatever doctor you deal with tomorrow understand that you have dealt well with the symptoms and treatments thus far but that things have changed.  I would insist that they do some further testing to ensure none of your other organ systems are being affected and ask why your pain would be so much more elevated at this point.

I so wish I was closer and could be there to support you in person.  You are such a strong woman and I pray that you will soon have some relief from these trials.

Love, Trudie

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by Ranaesheart, May 17, 2009
The ginger tea sounds lovely and I am planning on getting some.  Am taking antibiotics as scheduled accompanied with pain medicine and Ibuprofen.  Trying to make it through the night and will head to the ER around 9 or 10 in the morning.  The top abscess is still hurting and draining a lot .. and I do not feel it should be doing so at this stage of the game.  Need to get some more definitive answers and am taking my sister with me.

Thanks again for the prayers .. you are all helping me make it through the night.  No fever .. or I would head in.  

(((Hugs))) to all ..

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by Melissa0116, May 17, 2009
Ranaesheart,

I think that if this doctor or hospital is causing you this type of pain then how are they treating others with this infection.  I read that the best thing to do is to contact Health and Human Services and report the MRSA to them and they will send out an ivestigator to determine where the infection may have started and how they are treating it.  

Let us know how the visit to ER is and I will pray for you and hope that this problem does not continue.  God Bless................

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by twehner5, May 17, 2009
Since I'm jumping in here late (I must have been on another planet....SO SORRY!), I don't need to add that the DOCTOR IS A FIRST CLASS JERK.  Oh, venting feels so good.

Ranae, Melissa right above me, makes a very good point....  All along, I have hesitated to say anything because I don't know the WHOLE story, but.......

You said in one of your posts above that this was the first doctor you saw at this hospital....follow me here.  WAS HE THE ONE WHO INITIALLY DUG INTO YOUR TUMMY LOOKING FOR THE "THEN UNKNOWN CAUSE/SOURCE" OF ALL YOUR ISSUES?  I've had this nagging feeling all along that "THAT" digging is where the MRSA came from.  Maybe HE'S feeling the same thing...?  Thus, the HORRIBLE, INEXCUSABLE, BEYOND-RUDE, NEED-I-SAY-MORE? behavior yesterday in the ER.

I have NO idea if THIS is even possible.  When you've mentioned the cortisone shot that was possibly the cause of the MRSA, I've had the feeling this was a while back....?  If so, wouldn't the MRSA be running rampant by now?  Wouldn't the MRSA have to have been a more recent contact with little ole you?  Just a thought.

Please look into Melissa's suggestion of contacting Health and Human Services - THIS HOSPITAL MIGHT *NOT* HAVE REPORTED THE MRSA TO THEM.

Taking someone with you is the OTHER great suggestion.  When *I* grow up, I want to be as smart as April and Melissa!

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by angel_gyrl, May 17, 2009
OMG!! this is horrific!! My 62yr old mother went thru a very simialar situation as you and allmost died from mrsa last fall of '08!!.... I couldnt believe the treatment that she had gone thru and was crying horribly when she detailed alot of similar things that you say you went thru. !!!!!!!!

I told her she needed to sue the #$#$# out of the hospital!!!!!!!!! but, i know every case is different!!!!!!!!

I was treated horribly like a homeless criminal when i had to go to the ER about 6 weeks ago b/c i had just moved from another state....

I think these Dr.s (some of them) just do not care at all. And,they have their own personal problems, agendas, or are just over worked. I dont know!!

The bottom line is that from what i learned of my own extremely allmost OCD clean mother... that the mrsa is typically unknown, and a long healing process. She ended up having all that drip stuff like you and had to have a home health nurse come in and change her bandage daily to her home!!... She never even calls in sick to her job unless to have a cheat day w/ my dad to go have some necessary fun!!... But, I just pray for you that you can get healed from this and thank god your still alive. My mother refused to report bad treatment, and she says she will never return to that hospital!... She had to physically rip the bandage out herself in front of the nurse as blood fell all over the floor in order to just get some attention to her bandage 24hrs after surgery! (from removing a huge size boil)!!! While her fears of more contamination and the obvious should have been the fear of the nurse/ dr whomever that all that blood could have been contamintaing towards another!! or themselves...

But, i was just upset that i was not their to help her! I would have never let them treat her like that. My father (her husband) was out of town.... so, she was all alone... and didnt want to burden myself or my brother!!... But, as other people have stated, i would highly suggest that you take SOMEONE with you if u have to return their!! And, I think abuse of your nature (as in my own mother's ) should be reported so that others dont have to suffer, and possiblilty of death could be immanent if not only for yourself but another in the future....

Could you look into someone coming to your home as a once a day change of that bandage?? i know it is expensive everything medically related is!!... But, i know she said it had to be drained, and changed for well over a month!.. I would hate the tought of going in and out of that ER on a daily basis/ or not being safe and the possibility of re-contamination.

I hope i didnt overwhelm you or anyone else w/ my graphic detail. But, you are in my prayers as i said before. Godbless!!

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by ChitChatNine, May 17, 2009
Ranea,  I just logged on and read your journal.  I am horrified.  He treated you as a subclass human being and just because you don't have insurance thinks you are incapable of following your directlions to a T while at home and/or are seeking pain meds.  That's my take on what happened.  He vicitmized you and how he handled the situation was extremely unprofessional and out of line.  After you have regained your strength you should let him know you won't be abused by his pereceived power and control and how dare he treat any patient the way he treated you!!!!!!

I had this hapen with a dentist 2 yrs ago .. about 4 weeks before my thyroid surgery .... he made me go into tears and then stormed out the door after he threatened to mark my chart non-compliant!!!!!!  Another Dr. in his practice took over (this was endodontist) and in the meantime my dentist felt I didn't need the THREE Root canals he was insisting on and sent me for a 2nd opinion and only needed 2 b4 my surgery and guess what ... that third tooth is still 100% fine!!!!!!

You take care of yourself ... regain your strength and you are a survivor of this .... file a complaint after all is said and done ... meds for pain ...... maybe he'll walk in your shoes one day and maybe understand.

C~

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by wonko, May 18, 2009
Has anyone heard from Ranae since her last post on this journal?

Let's all keep her in our thoughts and prayers!


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by teko, May 18, 2009
Yeah, I been checking back also. Hoping all is well! Scarey stuff!

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by Angelinthemorning, May 18, 2009
Someone said this earlier, I think, but absolutely contact a patient advocate (social worker) in the hospital.  It's amazing how quickly and efficiently things start working when you ask for them.  Ask a nurse if you get the same doc with the same behavior to let the social worker know you want to speak with them.  You'll be suprised at the answers you can get.  

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by Melissa0116, May 18, 2009
I was thinking the same thing wonko and teko.  I really hope all is o.k.  She is definitely in my prayers.  She had an appointment on Sunday AM but have not hear anything since.  

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by Cherie762, May 18, 2009
Ranae.

wow, nope not ok at all techincally negligence, you got every right to report him to state board, hope you do. He will be investingated as he should be, ,,,,YES they should have treated you for pain before starting such a procedure, to say theres no such med is a load of crap.And really if your having so much abcess, and starting to feel nauseated you best get to a different hospital insist on a CBC,,Im so sorry you where treated so very bad Id like to give that doctor a really good piece of my mind. unforgivable.

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by opus88, May 18, 2009
Ranaesheart.....I am only a nursing aide!....this doctor should be reported no one should be treated as u were...but first of all I think u need to not wait until tomorrow morning!! U SHOULD GO TO AN ER IMMEDIATELY!!
I believe u need a much stronger antibiotic!!!! u need to stay there for a few days and get IV antibiotics...this is much stronger than any pill form............................MRSA is nothing to play around with it can be very serious....I worked alot with post op people and some with this MRSA ...u indeed contacted this thru the hospital...and they somehow did not use proper care before the injection...it was most likely contacted via someone in hospital at the time and carried to u via instrument or doctor related (ie improper hand washing).....
PLEASE if there is no improvement today in pain or your temperature go to the ER immediately and I sure hope for your sake u get another doctor.....ask for the administrator or head of that dept. if they continue u treat u this way....it may not be HIS fault directly but someone sure did this to you!!!
take care

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by star641, May 18, 2009
are you sure he was a d.r. ? and didn't escape from a mad house ?...

i hope some day he has to go through what you went through with him ....hes day will come ,.

he should be locked up ,...the man is a disgrace to his profession he should be struck of ,..

im so sorry you had to go through that sort of treatment and endure all that pain for the sake of some pain meds ,,...
and a mad d,r, .....


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by teko, May 18, 2009
Still no update from Ranae? OK, Now, I am seriously worried. Any friends out there that have direct contact with her, that maybe can let us know she be ok?

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by Ranaesheart, May 19, 2009
Many thanks to all of you for your comments, concern, thoughts and prayers.  Those of you who know of MRSA, know there are only about 3 antibiotics that work on eradicating this infection.  I am on Clindamycin and, since two of the 4 lesions appear to be healed and the other 2 are responding, they are leaving me on this medication.  The doctor did double the dose and, as with all medications, I am experiencing a few of the side effects ... constipation and diarrhea.  

Overall, I am doing much better and am going to try to be online later today in the WL&D community.  Am going to start trying to answer the questions that were presented over the past 2-3 weeks from members and hope we can get everyone back and involved in healthy life-long changes.

I have been thinking long and hard about the conduct of the physicians involved in my care and I will be writing a letter to thank and sing the praises of those who helped and made me feel like I was valued.  I will also be bringing this doctor's most recent behavior to the attention of those who can counsel him.  I met with him 3 times, 2 when I was initially sick and found him to be caring and compassionate.  The 3rd time was absolutely uncalled for he should at least be counseled and learn to have more compassion and control when caring for someone who is ill.  Even if he is tired and frustrated, he has other options  ...  like leaving the room or talking to me.

The rest from the last time I was online has certainly helped and I feel I am on the mend.  The top abscess is still open and continues to drain and feels as though it is much larger underneath.  A few more days can make a big difference so I am hopeful we are coming to the end of this siege.  

Many, Many, Many (((Hugs))) and heartfelt thanks to each of you ... as I get better I'll be in contact personally.



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by Barb135, May 19, 2009
Thanks so much for the update.  I know we've all been very worried about how things are going.  

It seems like it would be a good thing that the one abscess is still draining - doesn't that help get rid of the infection? Sorry, I'm not a "medical" person....  

Continue to hope for your speedy recovery.  ((hugs))

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by Ranaesheart, May 19, 2009
Yes, the abscess still draining is a good thing ... and is the treatment of choice.  Will be glad when it is done and can close from the inside out and this is behind me.  

Thanks bunches ...

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by peggy64, Jun 06, 2009
I know I am coming in late here, but these drs have been watching House, too much and think it is okay to treat their patients as if they are cardboard boxes or something, instead of human beings with feelings, and intelligence. Isn't there something that can be done, or do the Drs get away with with such poor behavior? It seems like they do.

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