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May 22, 2009 - 6 comments

I found this post on the thyroid forum and wanted to include it in one of my journals. I don't want to forget this one. This one hits me hard reading her post - b/c her words speak very close to what I had happen.

I wish Sandy all the luck after her RAI - and if she needs anything I will try to help her.

Post RAI nightmare -- help!
by Sandyyy
Member since Apr 2007  

May 21, 2009 11:52AM

I'm scared of the horrible post-RAI side effects I'm experienceing.  Can someone help me?  Four weeks ago I received 47 mci of radioactive iodine for Graves Disease.  My RAI uptake was 25 percent.  I drank the solution in a little water.  They didn't tell me to drink water afterwards to help wash it out of my throat. I have been so sick ever since.  At the U of M, they told me there would be no side effects, except a little sore throat and a little nausea for a day, just drink water, and they gave me a list of how long to be away from people.  I should have researched it more before I agreed to the RAI.  I found info from Cleveland Clinic that they give about 20 mci to patients with 25 percent uptake.  I think I was given way too much RAI.

Two days after the RAI, my neck swelled up twice its size, was very sore, terrible sore throat, heartburn, swollen and sore salivary glands which made my ears hurt badly, terrible headache, also nauseated.  I immediately went hyper and back into atrial fibrillation.  The endo said I experienced radiation thyroiditis.  I'm back on Tapazole (30 mg) to bring it under control, plus a beta blocker and coumadin.  Four weeks later, nothing is better except the swelling of the neck, but still sore.  I am so sick.  I've been on all those drugs before, and they never made me sick, actually, I was sick before I restarted them again.  I feel like the radiation has done a lot of damage especially because it was overkill for Graves.  I am also very upset that the U of M nuclear dept. didn't warn me of possible side effects, so I would know what to do and not be so afraid.  They said all was safe.  But my endo at the U of M, afterwards, said there is a real risk of increased cancers after RAI.  He thought my dose was high for Graves also.  But he wasn't involved with the nuclear dept.  I'm scared by how sore my throat is, even down into the stomach.  That radioactive material had to do some permanent damage.  I'm so afraid this will turn into cancer.I wish I could undo this.  Has anyone experienced this?  Thank you!  Sandy  

by stella5349

Hi Sandy

This is very hard to respond to. I feel your post mocks what I experienced to the detail on my journal with Graves.

If you want to see a bit of my history of my Grave experience -  I posted a journal under my profile on what I went through.

Now, as for your RAI - I am not good at knowing the ratio measurements of how much RAI is used to treat the percentage of Graves off the uptake scan. All I know is after RAI I suffered illness a very long time.

I remember - after I had RAI - that night, I had the most unbearable sore throat I ever experienced in my life. I couldn't believe how bad it hurt. Acutally, besides the sore throat - I can't remember all the other things I felt except I was so ill after for a long time. I do remember - at the beginning - having my hyper symptoms for some time and the meds I was taking for Graves was still used for a while. I feel very hypo within 6 mths and spiraled in hypohe// there for over 6 years.

The "neck" discomfort lingered for many years - I don't think that is common in most post RAI treatment, but I was one of the "lucky" ones too as you. I remember the "heat" of my neck so intense but the "lump in the throat" did not start until way after - about 2 years after RAI. It got to the point, where it felt like something was strangling me 24/7 and the feeling would just hang there sometimes  - worse than other times. I constantly had a red blotch on my skin - where my thyroid was suppose to be for many years after RAI, which I believe had something to do with the RAI inside the gland ablating it out.  I am not sure why I also was not instructed to increase my water intake, but I didn't either and paid dearly for it. Get in the water now. It will still flush some toxins out. You are only 4 weeks into treatment which is better than I was - which was 3 years after ablation. I continued to have hyper symptoms for about 6 mths until I went hypo. I continued to have anxiety and panic attacked for years. Just recently about 6 years after RAI - I no longer have that horrible problem.

Because I was not informed properly and I believe they "douced" me heavily with RAI -  I developed permanent scar tissue on my right saliva gland. Recently a scan at the Univ of Wisconsin proved that the RAI beat my saliva gland up and I will have permanent damage with no treatment options. I was told that was uncommon ( rare ) - but I have my doubts. I also developed "burning tongue" and had that for a very long time. I couldn't taste or smell ( very mininal) for a very long time.  I swear I felt like death. The heartburn I had started about 2 years after RAI and was also a 24/7 situation in my life. I developed GI issues - constant nausea, swelling and bloating, fogged thinking and an aray of other problems- including near coma - not due to RAI per say - but by being left very hypo after it.

I developed a nodule - which no one knows for sure if it was there prior to RAI and falling hypo, or if it was there at the beginning of Graves. It sits behind the thyroid bed ( when  the thyroid would have been there) and now that my thyroid looks like a piece of yarn after RAI on a US scan and sits deep in my neck - the nodule is visable on a scan. I found out about this nodule March of 08. It has been told to me - that the structure or "findings" c o u l d be cancerous, but it is impossible to FNA biospy ( due to the deep lesion)  to see if the cells actually are. I have had expert opinions since it was found and at this time feel the watch and see approach is best. I also was told cancer is more of a risk after RAI - AFTER I had it done.

This personal situation I was in was the hardest thing I ever had happen to me. I have climbed out it after 7 years of he//. I can't express it any clearer to you to start learning on what your options are to regain your health back. I didn't find this site until I already spent years in that horrible condition.

After I finally started learning about how to get well, ( I look back and wonder how I found the strength) did I start to really get to the bottom of knowing what to do.

You will need at this time to keep the saliva glands continously producing. Intake as much water as you can and get lemon drops to stuck on to keep the flow. Log EVERYTHING that is happening to you with your symptoms and follow all your labs - even get the ones prior to the RAI. Aleve or Motrin will get the swelling and discomfort down and you may need to be on that for a while. Make sure it is compatible with the commundin. My  suggestion to you on the GI - acid reflex and heartburn is to get your PH levels within your body up to as superior levels as possible. The RAI could have upsetted that and if you don't get that under control in the early stages, it will take longer to heal. Your acid will start to deplete now that you will be hypothyroid - so I urge caution to you if you are prescribed acid reducers. If you are a sufferer of anxiety as I was - Xanax will help - but do not fall dependant on that - the key to ridding that symptom is getting optimal with your thyroid levels and increasing your supplement intakes. I don't have advice on getting rid of the nausea. I am not sure what I did in particular to get rid of that. I am glad that is gone for me too.

Take care




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by peggy64, May 23, 2009
Nikki,
thank you for your help and encouragment here for Sandy. You are so thoughtful, and always trying to help others....

Peggy

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by Smilerdeb, Jun 18, 2009
It totally disgusts me that Hospitals, Doctors, Endos and Nuclear Depts just go ahead with the RAI not listing what the side effects may be AFTER RAI in other parts of the world.
I guess I was lucky in the fact that I had and still have a good Doctor BUT ..had I stayed with the Endo, I think I surely would have ended up like you Stella.
At the end of the day, there are plus's and negatives with both RAI and TT and its a case of buggered if you do and buggered if you dont.
But every person who is diagnosed with Graves or hashi's should learn from day one just what is involved in the thyroid issues.....in my postings I cant stipulate that enough.
It took me a long time to learn all I know today about thyroid issues (and still learning) but the hardest part of it all to me....was being treated like a Leper on other thyroid forums because I had RAI.
Maybe Australia does things differently but we are well informed what may or may not happen in regards to RAI.
This is all on an 8 page information sheet that is given to you prior to RAI.
It doesnt make it any easier but I will say from what I have read and learnt over the past 2 years, that it does give some insight and doesnt 'hide' any of the facts.
They tell you what you may get because of RAI and what you may not get.
They tell you basically all that they really know about RAI and its effects.
Maybe I am one of the lucky ones who decided that before they cut my throat or before I swallowed that capsule...that I wanted to know if I was gonna be around 12 months later with some quality of life and not just 'existing' like I was prior to RAI & TT.
Stella , I know you have been to hell and back and you are an Inspiration to everyone on this site.
Dont ever leave as this site will lose a very valuable member here and also a very close personal friend of mine.
Hugs to you My Dear Friend x

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by Sheila669, Nov 06, 2009
As I read these posts, they scare me and make me more aware I do need to do research before RAI, I will be going for my scan on the 20th I believe of this month. I figured Let them kill this darn thing off and ALL WOULD BE FINE AGAIN...guess I was wrong. I have Hashis with Graves symptoms however did come out negative for Graves antibodies. For some reason when on MY T4 ( LEVOTHYROXINE ) I end up more hyper and was not on a high dose at all. I had been on it for years with no problems and all of a sudden one day just went into this horrible ANXIETY FEELING, as well as bad heart palps and so on. Lost almost 20 lbs rapidly and was a horrible mess. Very Scart, so needless to say  I thought after finding 2 masses which came out non cancerous from FNAB , I would just do the RAI, my dad did it must be easy...again Guess I was wrong. Thank You for caring for people and posting these types of issues so we know what we are facing. I do not have a great Dr. as it is and he definitely gives me no info. so I have had to do it on my own and If it weren't for people like you making people like me aware, well let's just say I am sure it would not be so good. Again Thank you for  sharing your stories and kindness to us all :)

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by devthyroid, Dec 05, 2009
5 weeks since my first RAI treatment; my throat is so tender that it's sore on the right side that goes up to my right ear, pain is so unbareable sometimes that I can't get up in the morning.  I still have the following symtoms; palpitations, anxiety, fast heart rate, fatigue, and tremors.  I'm just concerned that my throat will never get better, and that I will continue to have hyperthyroid.  

Good to know that alot of people out there who knows and understands what I am going through.

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by danie17075rm, Feb 19, 2011
Do you have this Sandys name so that I could email her?  I too have been referred to get RAI at U of M from the U of M doctors.  I'm wondering now if she had had the same doc.  I'd really love to know more from her.  Thank you so much.

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by astankie, May 11, 2011
I just had RAI at U of M Ann Arbor.  Prior to this I met with the Nuclear Medicine Dept. Doctor to go over everthing.  My husband came with me and they took time and explained everthing from thryoid function to options for treatment.  We spend an hour and half and I asked every question.  Before this meeting I was still on the fence as to my treatment.  After, I felt that RAI would be best for me.  I had 15 mci on May 4th and really didn't have any side effects. It is a week today and still feel fine, same as before treatment.  

Good Luck to you and make sure that whatever treatment you choose that you feel good about it.

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