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Adderall for cocaine/meth addict???

My bestfriend is a recovering (2 1/2 months clean) cocaine and crystal meth addict (among other addictions as has a typical addictive personality)  who has been seeing a phsychiatrist for a little over a month now. My PROBLEM  is I am seriously QUESTIONING this doctors approach to treatment. He hasn't ever suggested any type of NA or AA and now he has presribed him Adderall (adderrall) (with a a diagnosis of Adult Adhd)!!  WHY ON EARTH WOULD would you ever prescribe a highly addictive stimulant to someone who is addicted to stimulants?? Now perhaps the ADHD diagnosis is correct (hints the addictive personality,etc.) but EVERYTHING i have read on Adderall (adderrall) says "you should not take Adderall (adderrall) if you have a history of drug and/or alcohol abuse". Also, we have consulted another psychiatrist who agreed. It's not like he's been 2 years sober, it's only been near 2 months! A stuggling 2 months at that! I am so worried, please help.
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I've had an adderall (adderrall) prescription for about five years now.  I continue to use it when I feel that I really need it (i.e., can't possibly finish a paper without it), but otherwise try to stay away from it due to my past experiences with it.  My feeling is that it's a nasty, nasty drug.  It's very easy to build a tolerance to it - after not too long the low doses don't work anymore.  I was taking 45 mgs up to 4 times a day... and I've known people who have had to take more in order to feel the effects.  When I was taking 45mgs at a time, I found that if I didn't take it I felt lethargic, depressed, and unable to concentrate whatsoever.  But then, when I did take it, I had tremendous headaches.  I decided to quit cold turkey and had horrible, horrible withdrawals.  

Adderall (adderrall) is a drug that they don't know much about, but it's a stimulant just like cocaine and meth that can cause many, many health problems that can land people in hospitals.  (Adderall (adderrall) = methamphetamine salts.)  

You are right that this psychiatrist's prescription of adderall (adderrall) is inappropriate.  

If you can, encourage you friend to try to conquer his addiction on his own.  The only thing I've found that works at all for me as a substitute is caffeine.  Coffee and soda can actually be pretty effective stimulants - just remember to drink plenty of water as they can also be dehydrating.

Good luck.

Your friend is lucky to have you in his life.
Best,
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Indeed, Adderall (adderrall) is a very dangerous and highly addictive drug, however, please do not readily dismiss it before you consider the following.

ADHD, especially if left untreated, is a disorder that can cause severe emotional, social, legal and physical (health) problems. This is true in both adults and children. Have you ever wondered why your friend became a drug addict in the first place? I mean people don't just wake up and decide that; "Today is the day that I'm going to destroy my life with cocaine and crystal meth.!!"

Low self esteem, rejection and feelings of inferiority are all very commonplace in people with ADHD, especially if they remain untreated until adulthood; and that is why that many people who have ADHD have a history of some form of substance abuse, whether it is with alcohol or some other form of drug.

You must understand that ADHD restricts the amount of dopamine that is produced in the brain, and it is dopamine that allows us to feel good or happy in our lives. Needless to say, that having chemical control (Adderall (adderrall)) over how much dopamine your brain produces is very dangerous for any person for obvious reasons. But you must also consider the possibility that your friend was using illegal drugs because of this dopamine deficiency as well.

You must consult a third, or even forth, doctor before taking him off Adderall (adderrall). If you were to withdraw the Adderall (adderrall) and as a result his dopamine levels fell to below average or normal levels again (which they most certainly would), you risk throwing him into a full blown "RELAPSE" with the coke and meth. Understand, your friend may need Adderall (adderrall) not as a drug to be different, but as a drug to be normal!!!

Adderall (adderrall) may help your friend to reclaim his/her life as it has with so many others; and if you are concerned about him/her abusing it, as you should be, there are alternatives such as supervised administration. Your friend can be given 1 pill per/day as prescribed his/her doctor. The prescription can be held by you, a friend, a family member, his/her doctors staff, a counselor, a sponsor, or some secret third party that no-one knows about.

I am a recovering alcoholic who currently takes Adderall (adderrall) and who is also enrolled in cognitive therapy for my ADHD. I hope to one day retire the drugs completely as well. I did not begin taking Adderall (adderrall) until I was over two years sober however, but that two year period was hell as I was constantly battling against this dopamine deficiency in my brain (bad moods-irritability-resentment-fear).

I am somewhat comfortable, yet hesitant, in taking Adderall (adderrall) because I understand today that my alcohol abuse was directly linked to my ADHD, and Adderall (adderrall) is a management tool that I use to cope with my disorder while alcohol was something I used for a totally different reason. That is to say that I used alcohol to hide from life, I use Adderall (adderrall) to live it!!

Through cognitive therapy, which your friend should definately be involved in, I am learning to raise the dopamine levels in my brain naturally and without any drugs at all. I'll repeat that "YOU CAN LEARN TO RAISE THE DOPAMINE LEVELS IN YOUR BRAIN NATURALLY THROUGH COGNITIVE THERAPY".

This process, however, takes time and many hours of disciplined effort before you see the results, but you will see them if you stick with it!

In closing, you friend is definately in a sticky situation in that giving addictive drugs to a recovering drug addict seems ridiculous at first, however, please allow for the possibility that he/she may need this drug to gain a foolthold on his/her situation. Also, drugs taken under a doctors care and supervision for a bona fide medical disorder is different from buying stuff from slippery-pete down at the local tavern for a Saturday Night rush.

If drug abuse begins, the doctor can withdraw the prescription. In the meantime however, If your friend is;

1. Taking a modest, doctor recommended, amount of Adderall (adderrall) to deal with ADHD symptoms:
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"Sorry-finger hit "Post Comment" in error" continue....
2. Is enrolled in cognitive therapy with the intention of eliminating, or minimizing, the drugs use entirely.
3. Is pursuing support through NA or AA or some other support group and is;
4. Surrounded by loved ones, family and friends for support and monotoring...

Depriving him/her of Adderall (adderrall) may not be helping him/her, but may in fact be pushing him/her back towards the edge of insanity.

This is just food for thought.
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Well, it's known that meth and coke destroy dopamine receptors yet it's not well known if the brain recovers completely though it's likely different for any individual. My concern is that your friend's abuse has caused a depletion of dopamine and NOW has symptoms of ADHD. Anyone who knows the addictive personality, knows that it takes tremendous resolve to overcome an addiction, like you JoJo. You remained sober for 2 years before seeking out treatment. And alcohol is a depressant rather than a stimulant, and I don't think it hammers the dopamine receptors nearly as effectively as coke and meth. I would really be hesitant to prescribe adderall (adderrall) to someone so recently out of woods so to speak. There are other medications that address ADHD without the high abuse potential, for instance Wellbutrin, or Strattera, and Wellbutrin mildly boosts dopamine also. When I was prescribed Adderall (adderrall), my doctors tried both Wellbutrin and Strattera first and then screened me for addiction vigorously before prescribing this drug. I would say, like JoJo, one must first show a commitment to not abusing drugs before one gets a prescription for Adderall (adderrall). I personally think it's a bad idea at this juncture. An addictive person is often treating themselves for many things..either concurrent with ADHD or not. Though I do think, on the other hand, that if your friend starts abusing the drug it may become apparent fairly quickly. But my husband has abused adderall (adderrall) in the past and has managed to snowball me by just toughing it out to the next prescription. There's nothing like a future guaranteed high to keep you focused and determined while going through withdrawal. And my husband as very bad ADHD..which doesn't seem to be helped by Adderall (adderrall) any more. And he will abuse drugs given the opportunity, so I don't think Adderall (adderrall) was a miracle cure for him at all. So, after that tangent, I will just say I think that doctor is being a bit reckless, to put it mildly, and I don't blame you for your concern.
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I have been trying to research all the "ADHD" drugs since my son has been prescribed "Vyanase" for ADHD with effects much like those of cocaine. I have found out that Ritalin and most of these drugs have the same amphetamine salts used to make meth. I can just imagine the future of our children being introduced to the drugs so early. The pharmaceutical companies and the drug dealers are making a killing out of killing our future. Its such a tradegy and it is legal!!!!
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Okay. Adderall (adderrall) IS highly addictive. I am prescribed to it, but I still think I am more addicted to it. But not out of control and the benefits I get are greater, almost enought to override the addicting properties. But anyway.. don't freak out about what the doctor is doing. It makes sense. Hard to explain. But if the body was chemically addicted to meth and cocaine, the worst thing you can do is completely stop taking the drug, because your body goes out of balance. To fully recover the addiction, you need to take it one step at a time and Adderall (adderrall) is great, because it is kinda like giving the body a low dose of cocaine, to let the body less dependent of the the harder drugs, before completely quiting.
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I am a recovering addict with severe ADD and I take 40mg of Adderall (adderrall) XR daily.  ADD that is properly diagnosed and treated, the treatment will help the symptoms that we used to self medicate. No one with true ADD can become addicted to this stimulant because it does not act as a stimulant in an ADD mind. I can take my medication, eat then take a nap. I asked my doctor why it effects me that way and the opposite way in my 10 year old son. He says it responds differently in adults. I am living proof. Before being diagnosed and treated ( while in recovery) I had a .93 GPA in college. I just gradated with honors with a 3.5 GPA and have been treated for ADD a little over a year. It is three fold just like my addiction.... I can not only get well through medication. I have to modify my behaviors and undergo cognitive therapy as well. It can be done.
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i am in a similer situation as your friend, and i must say it all depends on his/her future intentions for the use. as i have had adhd since middle school i had crapy grades/work history/social life while "sober" i have abused every drug ive ever herd of and am now nearly 9 months sober. i started taking aderall two  months sober and its worked great, but i also tried abusing stratera (Strattera) a month "sober"(snorted it...DONT DO THAT LOL) if he functioned well without drugs then he may be trying to abuse them, some doctors will give you whatever they think you want to make a buck. but if he cant manage his life sober then he may need drugs. bottom line is, you have to remember that it is his choice, in my hatered of drugs i didnt like my best friend on concerta, but again, he needed it seriously. just keep an eye on him/her... and comunicate. if he handles his life then it may be just what he/she needs.
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You have a good grasp on brain chemistry it seems. I would like to recommend Life Extension magazine at

http://www.lef.org/magazine/index.htm

Just type dopamine into their search engine and you will be amazed and pleasantly surprised by the science. I use a lot of different drugs for a lot of different reasons. I more often use vitamins, supplements, antioxidants and herbs. It is all about chemistry and balance. Life Extension Magazine is like my bible.

I have two rules I live by when medicating:

1. What goes up must come down or you will burn out. What goes down must come up or you won't pay the bills.

2. All things in moderation

I use to take Mau Huang to get through finals in college. I would also take L-phenylalanine with vitamin b complex (the ingredients in 5 hour energy shot). This would create mega epinephrine that the Mau Huang would release. the synapses kept firing fast and steady. My mind was ravines. I could not put down the books. Before I found these crutches I was pretty lame. I made C's and D's in High School. I daydreamed constantly. I had no discipline.

When finals were over and I had my A's I would take Valerian root to relax and sleep for the whole weekend. When I needed the Mau Huang again it didn't take much. Any drug can burn you out and you will become resistant to it. The body is striving for balance, life requires charges and retreats. Use the drugs and herbs when you need them but don't be a user. Replenish the body with supplements and rest.

My A's helped me get to a retired life in Hawaii. Now I have a  compressed spine (lumbar stenosis) from my active athletic life style. I am taking Norco which is 10 mg of hydrocodone (opiate narcotic) with the  minimal amount  of acetaminophen 325 mg. Tylenol will destroy your liver so I take Milk Thistle to repair my liver.

The narcotic won't hurt you much but it is addictive. So I take my Norco for three or four days and get my work done. Then I go off the pain pills for two days and lie on the beach with a couple of Coronas. I go through mild withdrawal but I don't crash and I don't have to keep taking more pills to get the pain relief.

To use drugs and not be an addict means that you are in control of the drugs. The only way to do that is to go through mini withdrawals and let the body purge gently. Life is like a Ferris Wheel. Enjoy the ride and allow for ups and downs. The right amount of the right drug at the right time can improve your life. But take breaks from all of them.

The hardest drug for me to control is prescription marijuana. So I put my husband in charge of that. He has strict instructions from me to only give me one dose every few days while we watch the sunset. It works better that way, providing a complete and total relief from physical and mental pain. If I take it everyday it doesn't do that. Caffeine is by far my worst addiction, I only have one cup of espresso in the morning but I break my own rule and do it every day. I have a glass of red wine with dinner a few times a week.

Addiction is like the kid that can't stop eating candy on Halloween and then gets sick, every Halloween. I was that kid, and my parents didn't help me, but my husband does. He teaches Thai Chi. Now that I am over 50 I can have two chocolates out of the box and then put it out of sight. I still can't leave the box open in front of me, and I won't go a day without coffee unless I run out, and if I do the headache hurts like hell.

I came to this site out of curiosity. A friend gave me an Adderall (adderrall) because I was crying from the pressure of cooking Christmas dinner and wrapping presents. We should have just gone out for dinner and got those gift bags, but the Adderall (adderrall) did the trick. It felt just like the Mau Huang extract I use to take in college. Sure enough,  Adderall (adderrall) is Methamphetamine is Ephedra is Mau Huang is an ancient Chinese herb (or close enough). It's been going on for 1000's of years. Happiness, a long life, and many children...and happy holidays too.

I was diagnosed with ADD as a child. My parents refused to give me drugs. I drove them crazy and ate way too much candy. I got D's and F's in elementary school. They were tolerant, so is my husband. My teachers and employers never were. Maybe I will add Adderall (adderrall) to my pantry with the hot sauce and garlic. Maybe it would help me finally get that PHD after I get my x stop implants.....LOL.... Maybe life starts at 60.
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   I just wanted to winess to the fact that Adderall (adderrall) is completely nonaddictive to those of us that truly suffer from ADD. I am 44 and diagnosed with ADD and Bipolarism. My B.P. is very depressive in it's nature so my psychiatrist allows me to continue taking the Adderall (adderrall) which I have taken for 10 years. I have gone off of it many times because of lack of funds, lack of interest, etc. and, although I functioned less efficiently and got way less done I never had cravings for it.
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I agree with you. I was addicted to Adderall (adderrall) (I stole them from a friend) before I even tried cocaine. Once I started cocaine I realized it was a lot better, and my friend was starting to get suspicious anyway. It doesn't have the exact same affect, but it definitely gets you high in the same "up" way, and was a good substitute for me when I couldn't get a hold of coke. There is also a come down from Adderall (adderrall) that might make him want to go use coke to pick him back up.
When I put down cocaine, I was prescribed Wellbutrin to help my dopamine reactors adjust and help me with depression, which I had been self medicating for a long time. I felt invincible on this stuff. It was amazing. I took six right away (six is my lucky dosage with everything...) when I was only supposed to take one. I got sick, obviously, and my mom (whom I live with) now gives it to me when I am supposed to take it because I can't be held responsible with the stuff. I have a little over 8 months of using nothing but scripts as they have been prescribed, but I know if my mom left me with that bottle of Wellbutrin for a weekend, that stuff would be gone. I say that to tell you, even when this guy has 2 years... that doesn't mean he won't get high if he talks himself into it. Addicts are very good liars, even to ourselves.
I mildly overdosed on rall once and it's very similar to being dope sick. For now, tell him about that because it ***** SOOOOOO MUUUUCH. The difference between Wellbutrin and Adderall (adderrall), though, is that you have to keep increasing your dosage with rall because your body becomes used to it. I've taken the same amount of butrin I've been prescribed from the beginning and it still works well. I take a pill in the morning and one in the afternoon, but they also have slow release which is good if he's apt to crush or cook, because you can't separate the slow release from the drug.
I wish the best for your friend. I definitely suggest a new doctor, but in the end it will be his decision. Unless he is a minor. Let him know that you care about him and you don't want to see him get bad again. Knowing that someone cares can do wonders when you are actually ready to quit. If he's not ready, he probably won't care at this moment, but he will know in the future that you want to help.
Good luck, and don't let it bring you down.
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If that  Dr. knew he was an addict and still prescribed the Adderall (adderrall), that Dr. is a complete idiot and completely out of touch with reality. take it from one who knows!
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Adderall is VERY addictive. Whether or not the prescription you are referencing is appropriate I do not know. You should be proud of yourself for being concerned about your friend. In this case, it seems like the medical professional is trying to ween your friend of of cocaine/methamphetamine by having them take adderall (adderrall). This sounds kind of like what methadone (also addictive, although less than heroin) is supposed to do for heroin addicts. What I can tell you is that adderall (adderrall) is basically a less powerful form of cocaine/methamphetamine, and in my opinion is just as addictive. For this reason, I would encourage your friend to stop taking adderall (adderrall) as soon as they feel that they can do it. Even though I am not a licensed medical practitioner, I can say with 100% confidence that I would NEVER prescribe adderall (adderrall) to someone who is suffering from addiction (any kind). I knew for a fact I was not ADD/ADHD the first time I took adderall (adderrall). One 10 mg pill made me feel like I was king of the world. For people who actually have ADD/ADHD and can benefit from adderall (adderrall) it has a calming effect. Indeed, many people are prescribed adderall (adderrall)/ritalin who do not need it, and this is a major problem. It is also true, as stated by others on this forum that your body develops a tolerance to adderall (adderrall) relatively quickly. As a result, it is typical for prescription amounts to increase rather than decrease (which seemingly the doctor is trying to do here for your friend). In my opinion, this is a slippery slope. Amphetamines are very dangerous and highly addictive in ANY form, and adderall (adderrall) is no exception. As someone who has struggled with addiction, I would say the best forms of treatment are personal/spiritaul/support system. The bottom line is once an addict always an addict. Again, pat yourself on the back for being concerned about your friend. Do not be shy about talking to him/her about their problem. Let them know that they are not alone, and that millions of people are going through the exact same thing that they are. There is hope, but this is something that your friend will need to deal with their entire life. The adderall (adderrall) is just another fix, and they should be wary of using it as a crutch. For now, they should do what the doctor says, but I strongly feel that the prescription of adderall (adderrall) in order to ween a cocaine/meth addict of said drugs is highly dubious at best. BEST, bonfanti.
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Is it possible your friend did not tell his psychiatrist he had been addicted to the very thing he is prescribing? Or is he one of those doctors who actually enables addicts? After all, people like Michael Jackson ware aided by a "doctor."
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Lot of really interesting comments in this forum.  Since the original post was 2 years ago, it would be nice if Girl27 ever responded.  Still its interesting to read the comments - some good personal observations here.
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I had a horrible experience with adderall (adderrall).  I have used coke for at least 15 years on and off and to me, nothing in the world was worse than an adderall (adderrall) come down.
I got a bottle of it by accident.  I was given it as a trade and had no idea what it was or how it would make me feel.  Im used to pills so I popped 3 at once and I was instantly in love.  After 2 hours or so I felt that come down that only people who have been through THAT can understand.  It was bad but not unbearable.  I started with 25 and in 10 hours went from swollowing to snorting.  I used the entire 25 pills that night because when you feel that withdrawal and you have more.. you just do all of it.  I'm very lucky i'm not dead.
Adderall (adderrall) was the worse coke comedown times 50!  It lasted 14 friggen hours!  It was constant pulling and mental agony for the first 8 hours.. then the rest of the time was in waves.  never thought i'd be happy to have those waves but I was.  I hallucinated like mad also.. saw shadow people, heard voices and footsteps... that was holy hell and I've learned my lesson well.  Never will I touch those thing again.  I have no idea what's in those pills but the euphoria like cocaine happened, and that horrid withdrawal followed.  Im done.  Never again.
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And what is so amazing is that if you have ADHD, there is no high.  Weird how the body is wired.
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I was prescribed adderrall 10 years ago and have been taking 2 to 3 of 10 mgs each a day... so on average, I take 25 mgs per day. Unlike most people prescribed for it, I take it b/c I have narcolepsy. I'm not the typical ADD or ADHD case...anyway, as an experement,  I smoked meth on occasion for a 4 month period (Oct 09 till the beginning Jan 09)....on and off, meaning, I would everyday for about a week, then come off of it for about 1.5 or 2 weeks, and then repeat....as a narcoleptic, I wanted to compare it to Adderrall....obvioulsly, I did not need the Adderrall while the times I smoked meth....I think the reason why I never got addicted to meth is b/c I've been on Adderrall for 10 yrs and my body is used to the speed....I never once had withdrawal symptoms, which I was afraid would happen, but glad I didn't ....anyway, I do not encourage meth and I'll never do it again...as I said, it was an experiment....I'll never do it again mainly b/c it's not pharmaceutical grade and made with a bunch of junk...no one needs that in their body....personally, the amount of time I did it, I don't think I'll have long term body image effects....so a part of me can kind of see why the Doctor's thinking in doing that (refer to first post)...I'll continue using adderrall till, if/when they ever come up with a cure for narcolepsy.
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You are correct. Adderall (adderrall) is speed (but with a fancy name), so why you would treat someone with an addition to speed by giving him speed sounds nuts to me. Well, it doesn't just sound nuts - it is nuts.
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Girl27,
I don't know if this will even get posted. Sites usually say, "what is your mothers maiden name?, or what are these letters?, and I blow it off. I hope this doesn't. I would like to say this. I am an addict...big time. I have been addicted to everything you can be addicted to. I am 47, married with 3 children. I don't know how. I have taken, smoked, snorted or shot anything that can be. Hell I shot Jack Daniels one time because there wasn't anything else. It's a ritual I get addicted to. It's like laying out Coke is as fun as doing it. Anyone that has been there will understand that. OK, enough.
I can get any Dr. to give me anything, Oxy 80, Fenatyl, ADDERALL (adderrall),name it. I'm a clean looking addict.  lol I tried suicide again for about the 8th time 2 years ago. I have been sober 19 months, "Except", for the last 4 months of Adderall (adderrall) use. My wife finally asked me what was up. I told her about the Adderall (adderrall), I don't lie to my wife. 4 days ago I gave her the bottle, 80 of them, I'm dying. Don't do Adderall (adderrall). ADDERALL (adderrall)!, in case the addict saw a typo. They're bad.
I am watching a friend slowly go insane on Adderall (adderrall). Man I care about her. If an addict doesn't want to be told, they won't listen. If I didn't type with one finger, I would type until I cried too hard to see. Don't do it. It is another pharmaceutical devil. (That's a long name).  If you want to stay sane listen to me. It's Meth or Coke in a pill. You know that. Stop for a couple days. Fun huh?  lol  Remember Black Beauties?, Lemmon Stats?, same thing. Please don't man,I promise you they will make your insane, slow, they're great at first, just like Meth, Heroin, Coke any of the silent killers. I have ADD, Manic Depression, Trguojjk, lol. I can answer any questionnaire to suite my purpose. I can even lie to myself. Can any other addicts relate? Probably not, right.  lol  Love yourself man Hell, I'll give you my name, phone number and address if you want. If anyone is mad at me because you wish I wouldn't have told people that care about you the truth, I don't blame you, you might have to stop.  lol  Go ask the mirror. That is your true answer. "To Thine Own Self Be True". I wish my lol were truly funny. I play no games.
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I don't know if you're still out there Girl27, but I totally feel you. John95, thanks for your perspective, you rock on.

I also have a loved one who quit using meth, and who has been prescribed amphetamine salts for ADHD. The psychiatrist is associated with the clinic where he went to rehab, so the doctor is fully aware of his addiction. This particular doctor is one of an increasing trend of 'meds only' doctors, who leave the talk therapy to one of their associates (but if you can't afford the extra appointment, they'll still prescribe you the meds). Like woozy's husband, my loved one has been conserving the pills so he can take a bunch at one time, and he doesn't ingest them, he crushes them on a mirror and snorts them through a short straw to get a faster rush. Once a month like clockwork, he goes nuts and goes after everyone unlucky enough to be in his vicinity, like the worst case of PMS you've ever seen.

Prescribing amphetamine salts to a meth addict might be an attempt at anti-addictive treatment, but this doctor doesn't do much in the way of followup, so there's no oversight, which an addict with access to a controlled substance desperately needs. There's also a chicken-and-the-egg question as to whether a recovering addict can benefit from a drug designed for people who were born with damaged receptors, that the addicts have damaged through use of dangerous substances similar to the drug itself. I am concerned for my loved one, and I don't blame you, Girl27, for being concerned for yours.
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Ok here me out. I have been on ritalin since the age 3 which now i am 22. Then it switched to concerta, then adderall (adderrall), then strattera, then adderall (adderrall) again. Once i stopped taking my meds i didnt feel normal i was real edgy tired couldnt concentrate, couldn't sit still etc... Listen to this i became a meth addict when i was 18 when i stopped taking meds, meth made me feel normal and didnt effect me like others it made me calm more focused and i could get what was needed done. So i got clean off the meth at 20 soon after i kept relapsing because i wanted to feel like ME again. So i would do it every now and again then finally at 22 i became addicted again and haven't stopped, I went to the doctor because meth is not worth losing my kids or going to prison, i told the doctor and they have seen many of these cases and i think in my opinion what isnt dangerous to our bodies now days and if its not illegall and it is a perscription drug that makes you feel normal than i think go for it some people wont agree but those are mainly the ones who dont know what its like to be addicted to a street drug or be ADD/ADHD all of their lives. So this is a living witness to how add/adhd victims are usually the ones who turn out to be meth addicts they are pretty much self medicating and just wanting that feeling of being normal.
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I have been sober for 4 years off alcohol and three years off adderall (adderrall).  I have been on Wellbutruin for 3 years.  the first year of my sobriety I took nothing.  The results are my personal relationships have soared, I went from being a disowned mother to one my Daughter who is now 20 can deal with.  My marriage failed, I got sober to save it and my husband went out on crystal meth never to return.  I have been working a program in AA and have a sponsor, have sponsored and go to meetings every week-I talk to other sober alcoholics every day.  I am suicidal because I can not support myself.  During my addiction I made over 100,000 dollars per year-EZ.  I have been on unemployment for almost 2 years, I have spend 60k just living so I could get sober.  I have driven a taxi I am now a personal trainer making about 800 bucks a month.  I am currently looking for adderall (adderrall) online because I can not afford to refill my prescription for Wellbutrin-I have not had health insurance in 3 years.  My life if falling apart without being able to make a living sobriety (if that is what you want to call it) is not working for me. When I take adderall (adderrall) it slows me down, I am able to organize my papers, make calls, stay on task and be like the rest of the human race.  Wellbutrin is great, but nothing has worked like adderall (adderrall) and I have taken it without drinking alcohol-yes I abused it.  I cut myself off and spent the money I made while on it.  That is the way i survive, living on the funds (savings, 401k, mutual funds, iras, disability, unemployment) that were stockpiled while I was PRODUCTIVE.  I was a finance manager in the car business for 23 years, there is no way i could do that job without adderall (adderrall),  i tried-they fired me within 60 days.  I can not support myself-any ideas???????????
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Wellbutrin can cause seizure in cocaine addicts.
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I was told by my psychartist that most people who are addicts are usually suffering from some form of add/adhd......the stress this disorder causes us is easily treated by most with street drugs and exc. which usually turnd most into addicts....he said that once they are seen diagnosed and treated for add/adhd they can then focus on getting treatment on the addictions.......If you have your add/adhd under control you are less likely to go and use any drugs period.........
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also I am only on vyvanse for my add and this is all I have ever been on and I like it....it is basiclly a cleaned up version of adderall (adderrall) and is less likely to be abused on the streets......It is a C-2 and a stimulant but I take it once in the morning and it orks great.....I have heard from most that adderall (adderrall) is very addictive but it also has been on the market longer and is less expensive this is why most doctors perscribe this med......I know my vyvanse is $200 before insurance and still runs me about $40 out of pocket and the pharmacist has told me that most insurances will not even cover it unless you have failed adderall (adderrall) or another older stimulant first
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I have to agree 100%! It is truly based on a person's dedication,willpower, and how they choose to view adderall (adderrall) in their own mind, whether it be a way to keep feeling high, when sobering off meth, or a way to get help and stableize their meth addiction leading them toward a healthy and permanent recovery. Everyone feels different things from any prescribed drug and is going to have different opinions, but I've been prescribed adderall (adderrall) now for 15 years, I'm now 29, and honestly it has been a tremendous lifesaver. As far as becoming addicted, In my personal experience, it's not highly addictive. Again, I believe, it's all in how one chooses to safely and correctly use this drug. It isn't for everyone, but I don't think it's malpractice for this dr. to prescribe adderall (adderrall) to a recovering methamphetamine addict. I've tried meth before as a teen, and hated it. I can describe my experience with it in one word, NASTY. So many ppl, are too quick to say the 2 are the exact same drug, because they most definately are not. I mean c'mon, meth is made from very dangerous, explosive, deadly, poisonouse man-made and household chemicals, that all clearly say, NOT TO BE INGESTED INTERNALLY, not to mention is totally illegal. Adderall (adderrall) may be slightly similar in a way, but is safe, legal, and not made of disgusting, deadly, ingredients. I mean, it is a very popular ADHD, ADD med given to children, so go figure people. Anyone, that has ever tried meth and taken adderall (adderrall), honestly knows there is an astoundingly huge difference, despite 1 or 2 common factors. So just my advice to the person with the meth addict friend who is trying to get sober, I think being prescribed adderall (adderrall) will greatly help him recover. Keep in mind, everyone is very different, some weaker, and some stronger than others, and if his addictive personality is well-known, then he is certainly at higher risk for relapse. Sometimes, a person like him needs a little help, so I would not knock adderall (adderrall) before he gives it a shot. He will only develop addictive behaviors it, if he allows himself to do so. Just constantly observe him while he is on the medication, and always remind him of the proper way to administer and safely take his meds in a way that will best help in his road to meth addiction recovery. And ofcourse, there is never any better drug for a recovering addict, than love, encouragement, and support. Hope this helped!
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