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875426 tn?1325528416

Many questions, introduction to my cat

In the latter part of 2009, my sister convinced me to look at adopting a cat.  I had been interested in maybe some day owning a little dog.  We had no pets for years- I was just a girl when we had to get rid of our last pet because we moved- a dog.

  Well, armed a list of possibles from pictures and descriptions provided on the internet, we went to our local humane society and entered the cat room.  There was one of the kitties on our list who stood out from the rest- during feeding time she ate from one bowl and another and I thought she seemed a bit of a hog.  But she had very soft fur.  And in this room full of cats was a rocking chair.  Well, my sister and my mom sat on the chair and this particular cat lept onto their laps and into our hearts.  We bought a cardboard box and took her to Walmart- we had no food or litter.  She started meowing like crazy and I tried to talk to her and calm her down.  Well we decided on one of the names my sister had chosen for her while in the car.  Catalina, like the island- and it started with C-a-t!

We learned that the cat had been brought in with a litter of kittens and that all the kittens had been adopted.  She was called a ferrel and was very underweight when she first arrived but was not underweight when we met her- all that hearty eating at the humane society certainly helped!

Well, we got her home, and she sprayed a horrible smell in the basement, where we were to keep her until we could get her front claws declawed and take her up to our expensive hardwood flooring we had put in upstairs.  We managed to get rid of that smell.  We tried to make her feel as comfortable as we could.  I played music for her, sang to her, petted her, tried to play with her.  For a long time, once home, she was a very quiet meower, sometimes a silent meower.  But now, she is very expressive with different meows and occasionally she squeeks in greeting!  She has her welcome meow for the stairs, her demanding meow when she wants something, and her very loud meow when she is carrying a ball up the stairs.  She didn't seem to know how to play when we first got her.  It took some time before she learned to play and she loves it!  But Catalina has some issues.

We learned that sores on her body when we got her were because she bit herself, not because of a mean cat we saw in the Humane Society cat room.  For a long time, we put baby shirts on her and eventually she let the place high on her back heal.  The sore on her side she decided to leave alone on her own.  Her current place to make raw and bleed is her back leg.  We tried a lot of things, including elizabethan collars, wet to dry dressings, antibiotic creme, ace wrap, antibiotics vets prescribed, cortisone shots and pills vets prescribed, etc. and the vet wrapping the leg up but she made it look worse than ever when we had to take the wrapping off (it was too tight and she was limping and vet said we could).  I was so stressed about this cat's problem and all the vet bills mounting up that we even seriously considered and came close to having her put down and I was VERY upset thinking about it.  We finally decided to let her be free from the shirts and the collar.  She was very happy about it.

  Today we were gone for a little while to enjoy an evening at friends and she was at her leg again.  We are wondering if a one of those collars that's supposed to soothe cats might help, since I think change in routine upsets her?  

One of the vets we've gone to thinks she probably belonged to someone before and she drove them crazy and they got rid of her.  He thinks she has OCD.  She did seem familiar with a refrigerator once we got her upstairs!  She also has very itchy skin and loves me to scratch her with my fingernails.  I started giving her some flaxseed meal- just a tiny bit with her morning food.  I think it helps her some with her ears, which a vet thinks likely were sunburned when she was a ferrel cat.  But she can make them red with her scratching and rubbing.  Anyway, one of her eyes seems to have pink in the white (and also above the eye).  The pink in the eye seems to be pretty constant since we got her.  Neither she nor I like eye drops and I'm wondering if there is something else (in-expensive and natural) I might try for it?

And, we are planning to have guests & the plan is they will share the basement with Catalina, who we put down at night.  We plan to block off the laundry room and have her stay in that part of the basement.  We don't know how she will re-act.  Is there anything we can do to help her?  We're thinking maybe starting to have her in there a some days earlier to get her used to the idea before guests arrive.  Feel free to give advice on this!

Thanks for listening and if you would like to see pictures of Catalina, check my photo album!  She's gained some weight since we brought her home- but she doesn't like to eat less.  She's a little under 12 pounds at last weigh and her age is 4 or 5 now (based on vet guesstimate when we got her).  She has a long body and part of her fur looks like leopard spots.  She is very pretty and super soft.  I hope you can help her?
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874521 tn?1424116797
hon, I'm not sure about the weight issue, both my cats eat wet food(one homemade the other half and half) they eat 4x a day and neither are over weight....

Its all a myth about dry food and teeth, most cats swallow and don't chew...and up until last year all the cats I've owned ate DRY food and they needed yearly dental cleanings.
Now my Nemo a year after being on the homemade diet(its cooked, but I occasionally put in partially cooked pork in chunks so he has to chew)....his teeth and gums are clear of all tartar and white, this is the first year he HASN'T needed a cleaning.
Sami on 50/50 still needed a cleaning but his weren't nearly as bad as usual.
Wiskas isn't a good brand but IF you are feeding wet its still better than feeding dry by FAR....Science diet IMO isn't much better.

I don't understand about the company and needing to keep kitty downstairs??? why?
I would recommend you start a NEW posting by clicking on the green button at the top of this page POST A QUESTION....and ask that question to other members, they perhaps aren't seeing this thread because its an old one.
maybe others will be able to give some tips..

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875426 tn?1325528416
Also, I am part owner- my sister is the other owner.  She heard that dry food is supposed to be good for the cat's teeth versus all wet food- have you heard that?
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Please see post directly above- concerned about company coming and Catalina.  

Been looking some at that food website.  I picked the Whiskas pouch because it had the meat listed as the first ingredient, which a tv news segement recommended one look for.  It's a little more expensive.  Also, I looked at the fat content.  We live in a rural community and not a lot in the way of pet stores here.  Vets around here carry Science Hill brand and charge A LOT.  

If cats aren't supposed to eat anything but meat, why does Catalina seems to love the smell and also enjoy eating a piece of corn or a laseur pea?  She even found some cooked carrot I accidentally had dropped on my chair and ate part of that, though I don't think she liked carrot too much, because she didn't finish.

There is also a problem that Catalina seems to do extremely well with a little wet food, gobbling it up, but with a larger portion- a quarter of a can when we were doing that, even with tuna- a favorite, she started leaving some behind.  And she seems to really enjoy Purina's dry indoor formula, which I've been sprinkling the flax seed meal on and she takes long drinks of water readily.  But she is too fat.  Do you think all wet food would help her lose weight while feeling satisfied?  
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875426 tn?1325528416
It's her leg- upper inside part.  It used to be the outer part of her leg but I think she picked a place less visible so we wouldn't bother her about it so much maybe.  

I've had her anal glands squeezed more than once because of scooting- once there was a blockage, but the other times, they said there was very little in there.

I took taurine drops myself for awhile, but don't have that bottle anymore.  We tried for a number of weeks cutting out the dry food (pre-Whiska pouches, so with other wet food) but she seemed to still itch.  

Her ears have been re-checked and pronounced free of mites.  I think maybe sometimes she still has a psychological remembrance or something, because she shakes her head like she still has them- that's why I had her checked again one of the times.  And her stool came back clear of round worms.  

Any suggestions about our coming company issue I mentioned?  I posted some more pictures in my album, including some where she used to wear baby shirts.  I hope you get a chance to see them- one (sweet dreams captioned) you have to go into to see more of her, because they cut it down on the small version.
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874521 tn?1424116797
here is the actual link to the commercial can food diets for kitties..........you can find it through the catinfo link too but it takes more navigating around....you'll see where the Vet has mentioned taurine too..

http://www.catinfo.org/?link=cannedfoods#Commercial_Foods
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874521 tn?1424116797
oh forgot to mention yes keep up with the flaxseed its a good source of OM3 and that is very good for her coat/skin.
Can you get ahold of some TAURINE from a vitamin/herb store too? its another amino acid that is very good for the skin. add a small pinch to her food everyday too. preferably in the NOW FOODS brand.

I would seriously be very quick about changing her OFF both purina and wiskas food, both are full of grains and can be very bad for allergies....

has she been rechecked for mites and roundworms??? very important to have this checked and eliminated also..♥
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874521 tn?1424116797
well OCD is more common in a stressed kitty than a calm one.

the collodial silver you have is fine.

quite often when its in the hind end area its associated with a contact allergy such as too the litter...try using plain newsprint for a bit and see if she will use that, or bark chips...unscented.

heres another site that explains more about dermatitis

http://www.sniksnak.com/cathealth/mil-derm.html

have the Vet check her anal glands, sometimes a blockage there can cause a kitty to chew the hind end as well.
read the site and see what you think from it...♥
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875426 tn?1325528416
The same vet who said she was a very calm cat later said he thought she had OCD.
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875426 tn?1325528416
  Wow, looks like I was provided with a lot of info to look into!  Catalina, when we got her, had a severe case of ear mites and one round worm egg was found in her stool sample, so we got her treated for these things.  Right now, maybe because of winter coat or maybe God is using the flaxseed meal, but I think some of the missing ear hair has grown in.  Sometimes here ears look non-inflamed but other times they look angry.

I looked at a picture of eosinophilic plaque and don't believe that's her leg problem- the vet said pets pick a place. She chews on it until it bleeds.  She actually switched places, but chose the same leg as the last place to heal- the back left leg.

Nancy- the humane society put her at 2-4 on her paperwork- the vet we had look her over said based on her bone structure 3-4.  
From that one link, I'm guessing Catalina may have conjunctivitis due to herpes.  But she also has a lot of pinkness above her eye- could that be part of it too?   How likely is it to find Lysine without propylene glycol as a preservative, as that looks like it may be the best treatment they list given our trouble with eye drops?

We are using TidyCat- instant action or something like that.  There aren't a lot of choices of types in this rural area I live in.  The heavier clay litter was hard on my sibling to scoop as she has fibromyalgia & harder on our noses as well.  We got some other kind made by Arm and Hammer that was supposed to have natural cedar shavings or something, but the cat didn't care for it (we tried switching slowly).

We use Purina indoor cat formula in the morning and give her a teaspoon of wet food at night along with less of the Purina- using Whiska pouches currently- often tuna as that is seems a favorite food of hers but experimenting.  The vet says the cat is overweight, based on some padding over her bones, but we measure out what we feed her, basing it on the package and she would prefer we give her even more food than we do!  She also likes to lick yogurt lids and drinking tuna water.  Rarely, she gets a little milk as a special treat.   She often gets one to two treats in the afternoon when she's acting hungry.  I hope she doesn't have diabetes or something that she gets hungry so much.  I figure- she might die from something much sooner than old age, so while trying to keep her under 12 pounds, I don't want her to be unhappy because she is hungry.

I have some colloidal silver a doctor had prescribed for me, but I didn't use much of it (would that work?) & it's funny you should mention turmeric as a cousin was just recommending that for another sibling for back trouble!

The paperwork from the Humane Society when we got her 2009 put her age at 2-4, but the vet we had look her over said she was 3-4 based on bone structure.  I thought maybe she wandered away to have her kittens somewhere and got lost.  But I am thinking maybe she was brought into the humane society with her kittens in a large bag, as she has a fear of kitchen trash bags and the large laundry bag.  She likes to play with small plastic grocery bags and to sit on plastic bags.  She was afraid of the broom at first I think too, but doesn't seem scared of that now.  She was spayed when we got her- the humane society had done it, which is part of why they charge an 80 dollar adoption fee.

Now, she was already biting herself when we got her, prior to being pre-clawed.  Her upper back and her side.  Those have healed up and she's taken up licking and biting to the bleeding point her back leg now.  We got her front claws de-clawed.  It was very hard on her to have the elizabethan cone on afterward and she broke open one of her feet on a picture frame she knocked over.  I went down to the basment and she had a little puddle of blood!  We scooped her up and took her to vet, I was VERY stressed and upset.  I made them keep her in their hospital (not for free of course) until they felt she wouldn't be in danger coming back home.  But she has a very sweet personality and one of the vet's describes her as a very calm cat (in the face of all the torture he put her through).
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Opus has provided some great info related to the skin problem so not really anything more I can add there.  2 other things you mentioned though.  If she is now 4 or 5, that means she was about 3 or 4 when you adopted her?  If she were a feral cat, at that age there is no way she would have jumped into someone's lap.  It is more likely that she was put out by a previous owner when she got pregnant or had the litter.  Very sad, but unfortunately, it happens a lot.  That would also explain her appetite. Nursing queens loose weight when they are nursing and tend to make up for it once the kittens are weaned.  She is a beautiful cat and from her photos does look somewhat overweight, but some of that may be due to her beautiful coat and the belly pouch that most cats get from being pregnant, especially multiple pregnancies.  I assume she is spayed now?

The other thing you mentioned was declawing.  Did you have her declawed?  In my experience, this can often change the personality of a cat.  Having a cat's claws removed is similar to a person losing their fingers.  It is quite stressful for them and they often become stress or fear biters as a result.  
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874521 tn?1424116797
the first site i gave you at marvistavet....sorry it didn't copy out right..scroll down to the heading FELINE EOSINOPHILLIC GRANULOMAS and click on that...for photos and a good explanation of this issue.
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874521 tn?1424116797
welcome surgi and catalina (darling name btw) glad to meet you both I sure hope we can help, she is a beautiful kitty and shouldn't have to suffer this way...
this problem is very common, my sami has similar issues just not as wide spread. there is alot of info on this if you search the 'archives' his disease if called EOSINOPHILIC PLAQUE or RODENT ULCERS, even contact dermatitis.
this is due to an allergy that usually starts from a flea bite..than becomes all full blown allergy that can be airborne, contact or food related. the following site will give you tons of reading to start with....

http://www.marvistavet.com/html/interferon_alpha.html

we'll start with the litter, what kind are you using?...switch it if it has any perfume.

next the food, this is what worked with my sami....if you are feeding any kind that has grains as most do, than switch to one with none. there are many good brands on the market. EVO or WELLNESS to name just two...these are avail at good pet stores NOT supermarkets, they are more expensive but well worth it...for more ideas read

www.catinfo.org

the Vet on this site lists all the good foods at the end of her site.

start with all that reading and changing the food(slowly so not to cause diarrhea)

the food change has almost totally eliminated sami's sores, when he does get a small breakout I treat it topically with a product called COLLIDIAL SILVER mixed into a paste with TURMERIC...this is totally safe for kitty to lick off. this is avail at a health food store or anywhere that sells Vitamins/herbs.....try to get one with a high ppm. in the range of 30 or higher.

Start with all that info hon, and keep us updated. we can get this better, don't resort to more steroid shots...that can lead to diabetes and its is just treating the symtoms and not the cause...if mediation is the last resort there is a much safer option called ATOPICA but that is a last resort!!!

hang in there. poor baby you can imagine how horrible it is to be itching like this!! ♥
I'll help all I can.
don't cover with the shirt, b/c the excess heat will only cause further problems.


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875426 tn?1325528416
oh- I didn't mention, we tried things cats generally aren't supposed to like the flavor of on her leg but none stopped her from doing her thing, making herself bleed.
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