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12 yr old boy talks about killing himself

hello, I have a 12 yr old son.  I have found a picture in his bookbag of a gun he drew.  He always tells us he is going  to  jump out his window.  Just the other day he told me that he took a dog chain (we live on a farm) and put it around his neck and tried to hang himself but, it wasn't long enough.  He is a VERY strong headed kid.  He is a very bright kid.  He is alway analyzing everything we say.  He gets angry easily and wehn he does he almost cusses.  He will plug his ears at times when we are trying to explain why its gonna be our way and not his.  This gets very upseting.  We have to walk away or we would loose our kool w/ him..  When we ask him to be quite and listen he does not he keeps talking and gets even more angry.

He also, still wets the bed, so he has no sleepovers, no camps etc.

We are just beside ourselves.  We don't want to give in to him when we are right but, sometimes it's best to do because we are afraid of what he might do next.  We also have a 16yr old daughter which he hits, kicks, says mean things to.
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1006035 tn?1485575897
Many people come through medhelp, make one post, and then leave without checking for replies. It's still important to discuss depressed/suicidal tweens because this thread will show up in google searches and hopefully help someone out eventually. What I'm saying is, don't hold your breath for a response.
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DJ93
I just wanted to assure since the first post instructed you to first contact your insurance to obtain a referral for a provider ( doctor or clinic) this assumes you have insurance. Most states will provide coverage for children in an emergency and hospitals have services dedicated to qualifying patients for State and Federal funded insurances. Do not let an insurance issue deter you from helping your son.
Also, you wrote your post on Tuesday, January 24th. My posts are from early. Saturday, January 28th. Please repost to update what action you have taken and let us know how your son is managing. We are all sending him good thoughts and are cheering his obtaining sound, kind, care.

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Please, DJ93 read entire post. You must assure your son receives evaluation today. Your son's
symptoms are serious and alarming. He exhibits symptoms of a true, pediatric-psychiatric emergency and at 12 years may not, cannot or should not be expected to intervene on his behalf. You are his parent and it is your responsibility to act on his behalf to protect him.
To do so, if you have a pediatrician with whom your son has had relationship, then contact them now but only to inform/ direct them of your need for and your intention to obtain an immediate psychiatric evaluation for your child. Then bring your son to an emergency room. If you live near an urban area with a university affiliated hospital, you may be more likely to obtain pediatric-psychiatric services there. If not, the emergency room will provide a safe place for child to be while a psychiatric consult (evaluation) is arranged, on site in the hospital. From what you describe, your child is experiencing significant emotional pain and is alerting you to his needs.
I fear you are in denial and I have empathy for the conflicted, emotions and pain you must be experiencing. Please recognize and accept your responsibility to help your child. You are the parent and it is you who must face your denial and fear to act rationally and responsibly. Your son needs you to be his strong,  loving, responsible parent now. It sounds as if your daughter and the entire family needs you to take this action for your son as well. Best wishes for the strength, health and happiness your son and family deserves.
There are no other options here DJ93. Remain calm, do not argue. Your child needs your care. If when you approach him to discuss your concerns, he becomes angry and resistant, call 911 for an ambulance. The manner in which you act today may save your child's life.
Please go do what you need to do now!
There is no shame in this.
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535822 tn?1443976780
Great post singledad...  
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I'm sorry but this can't be serious you stated your self your scared so why would you need to go online to ask if your child needs help or if its serious?  If your scared then it's serious. If he is trying to kill himself then its a dangerous attempt for attention. more than likely you missed or ignored the other nonthreatening attempts to ask for help. Good luck I will say this I attempted suicide at 9 years old with a towel and a shower curtain rod (obviously it didn't work and maybe subconsciously i knew that) because i felt that the only way out of the bad situation in my home life was to murder my step mother who was mentally and physically abusing me and my brother or kill myself and because my fear of my abusive father was greater than my fear of death i chose suicide. I didn't really want to die but in my 9 year mind it seemed the only logical choice. I needed help and it was a sign that should have been taken seriously i tried three more times in my life before i was treated for bi polar disorder and severe anxiety. My last attempt landed me in a coma for three days, and some brain damage from loss of oxygen to the brain from overdose. I am now medicated and live a happy and almost normal life. lol  My point is please get your child some help and take a long look at yourselves as parents. Most of all children who have issues have issues in the home. Kids aren't always born messed up their nurtured this way.  self evaluation is something i try to do often as a parent being i don't want my child to have my childhood feelings of hopelessness. I know how our love and expectations of our children can get in the way of each other and we can get fed up and get in the habit of always yelling and telling them what is wrong instead of what is right. good luck get your son help
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377493 tn?1356502149
I have to echo Specialmom and Diva's comments.  It's important this be taken very seriously and explored.  There are a host of issues that can cause this behavior and it's important not to ignore it.  Don't be scared.  Think of it as any other health issue.  If he had diabetes or a broken bone, you would have it treated.  Think of it the same way.  It is a health issue.  All the best to you.
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1006035 tn?1485575897
He needs to see a therapist ASAP. You do not want him to go into adulthood thinking this behavior is acceptable. If he gets completely out of control take him to the hospital immediately. This is serious and I hope you are treating it as such.

You need to stop fighting with him. It should never come to that. Don't even give him the option, just walk away or bring him to a psych ward. I hate to say it but he should have immediately gone into a 72 hour hold at the hospital when he attempted to suicide.
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535822 tn?1443976780
I would say that something at home is upsetting him , maybe it would be good to let him talk instead of telling him to listen to you  to you .How does he do at school has he friends I do not think its all about him , how does his sister behave towards him is he always the instigator as you have put here ?If he is indeed threatening death he is really upset and it would be a good idea to ask for some counseling to find out why ...
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973741 tn?1342342773
Hi.  In the mental health world, this is considered a medical emergency.  Suicide ideation is a condition of depression.  Sure, some kids will say "I want to kill myself" but when he is talking about the way he would do it, it is a serious matter.  I would contact your insurance company immediately as this boy needs to see a psychologist specializing in children right away.  

He may also need to see a psychiatrist.  Your boy is hurting.  Have you talked about what he feels the pain comes from?  Well, in therapy, they'll address that as well as any chemical imbalance associated.  

Very important that you follow up on this for your son's sake.  I don't want to scare you but as I said it is an emergency, it is considered so in the mental health community.  

Lastly, up until 9  years old, 12 percent of boys are incontinent during the night.  The number goes down as a child ages, but you'd be surprised how many families deal with this.  He is perhaps a sound sleeper and not getting the message that he needs to urinate during the night.  Do you cut off his drinks at a certain time at night before bed?  This can really help.  Again, talk to your primary care doctor about this.

Start working on where to take him today.  He needs your help. good luck
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