I have an 11 yrs old granddaughter that still messes herself and does not seem to care. She lies about doing it and hides her messy clothes.
Very good answer. Thank you for taking the time to respond.
He doesnt smear it--that is probably another issue. Maybe it goes along with the embarrassment and frustration. Not sure. Still sounds like the Encopresis (medical condition from constipation--colon stretched from holding the poop at some point).
My son does all of this. I looked up online what could cause the pooping. It looks like he doesnt feel it. What happens is that when they are little, they get constipated and don't wanna poop because it hurts. Holding it causes their colon to stretch and damages the nerves in the butt. Once the colon is stretched, they have a lot of poop and it does sneak out--they dont feel it. The colon will unstretch in time, but it takes time. Looks like I need to give him fiber gummies to help him go easier and drink more water. Its called Encopresis. They dont feel it. It takes time to get them back on a regular poop schedule because their colon is stretched. Be patient--they cant help it.
My daughter is 10yrs of age and pooping and smearing still she is autistic and refuses nappies throws them somewhere she's always doing this we are not really sure if she's autistic because she's not diagnosed but we have this running away case too seriously children are big enough it's pretty strange when they just poop themselves
I have lived with a kid that did that . It is difficult. I believe autisum is a demon . I'd wake to go to work an the smell of **** every where. An he, have 1/2 hr showers . He was my exs 13 ur old boy not mine .i new he wud be living at home all his life. So I left I cudnt handle it. If I tryed to correct him my ex said don't talk to my son like that. So I left.
I think as a parent you did what you felt was best and I applaud you! More parents should try your method, however it did not work for me!
You have alot of courage to write in and I thank you so much. My grandson is 10 and has been through a lot with my self grandma bringing him up for 4 years then his parents taking over only to break up again, then back to me for another 6 months then his father took him only to get married again. They have tried very hard with him . With my push he has been to 3 Doctors he was dianosed with ADD and ADHD he is on medicine and taking therapy. Still no better. I love him so much But can't find the right help for him!!!!
Thank You! Beating sneaky poo is a great pamphlet. It is much easier to understand then any thing I have recommended.
Mine is now thirteen and things are better. A small daily dose of miralax helped and I do mean small 1/4 teaspoon. Consistent monitoring of his bathroom habits. Also he is a bit older and better able to understand and communicate what is going on. Like if his stool gets hard we go back on the miralax for a couple of days and it generally gets better. Long hard road, not sure we are done, but I will say getting mad and punishing is not the route.
This is exactly what my 9 1/2 year old son does. He was completely potty trained at 2. He had his first surgery at 2 1/2 and that's when it started. He has had 9 surgeries and the problem got worse each time. It's so embarrassing and the kids at school call him "stinky" behind his back. He won't even admit that the other children can smell the poop. He insists that he hasn't soiled himself all the while smelling like an outhouse. When I bet him (if he hasn't, he gets a treat. If he has he loses a privilege) he is actually very surprised to find out he has soiled himself. I'm at my wits end. He has ADHD and Oppositional Disorder, they also think he might have a sensory issue. He is actually a very sweet boy, very empathetic. I love him so much! I need to help him so that he isn't teased his whole life. Have you had any luck since your post?
Hi ! Thanks so much about your reply.My grandson is 13 and he is doing these.We are desperate and concern.Your input is a great helpThanks!
Check out this link. It should be helpful. Oh, and do let your doc know what is going on.
http://www.practicalgastro.com/pdf/November02/LoeningBauckeArticle.pdf
My son has had issues with bowel movements since birth. He couldn't go when he was little because it was so HUGE, so the Dr gave him medicine so soften his stool. He was scared and would hold it until he couldn't any more and he would some times have small accidents. I felt so bad because he would scream because it hurt. Then around the age of six, he started to poop his pants ( more like skid marks), which I thought he was just being lazy. He's now 9 and we have tried EVERYTHING!!!! I make him sit on the toilet every morning and night. I keep him away from diary because that seemed to hurt his stomach, but it seems to be getting worse. I'm finding his underwear stuffed under his bed or in drawers. I try to talk with him and he just says he didn't know he had to go?!?! I keep telling him I don't want people to smell him and I asked if it still hurts like it did when he was little, but he says no. I don't know what else to do? HELP!
Try this ebook, it's been very helpful for our family: http://www.dulwichcentre.com.au/beating-sneaky-poo-1.pdf
He doesn't need a therapist he needs a good gastroenterologist. He probably has the medical condition called encopresis. While the following link is aimed more at children it has a lot of info on encopresis and explains the problems it presents. http://www.practicalgastro.com/pdf/November02/LoeningBauckeArticle.pdf
Thank you my son is 18 and does the same thing he hides it under his bed and in his pants leg, he seem to be collecting it. I have tried everything he started at 16, I told him if it continues he will have to leave my home. I am so frustrated and don't know what to do. Thank you for sharing I will be taking him to a therapist.
Ashlely, in her book, "The ADD/ ADHD Answer book," by Susan Ashley (about $12 on Amazon), says that kids with ADHD are 3 times more likely to have wetting accidents then kids without ADHD. Basic reason is that they will focus on something and not notice the urge until its too late and then since they do tend to do things without thinking - they let it go.
Like all behavioral methods for ADHD, routine is very important.
Probably the biggest help for you will be to figure out when this is happening. During or right after playing video games? His meds have worn or are wearing off? The timing is important because then you can start a bathroom routine or check his med schedule.
I would stop the punishments. It Obviously hasn't helped too much anyway. What you do want him to do is to let you know when he has had an accident so he won't then lie about or try to hide it. The only way this will work is to not punish. If anything lightly/slightly reward for letting you know.
School wise - he is at an age where going poop in the bathroom where bigger kids are (during recess or lunch) can be scary. Its not unusual for kids to hold it out of fear of the restroom. The teacher can help here (if thats part of the problem) by letting him go during classtime.
Hope this helps!
It is a great relief to see that we are not the only ones having this issue. Our adopted nine-year-old son has just started pee and pooping himself. He mostly pees, but he will do it in the store, at school, in the car, at home, and anywhere else. He will then try to hide it and lie about it. He has shoved soiled clothes in with clean clothes in his closet and on top of the dryer.
We have tried everything from punishment (mainly for the lying and hiding dirty clothes in clean), rewards, pull-ups, frequent restroom breaks, and doctors visits. All the doctor suggested was counseling. We just finished a round of counseling in September and he refused to talk then, so I don't see how it will help this time either. He says he doesn't care about it at all. He does have ADHD but he is on medicine for that and it is controlled. He behaves well at school and makes all A's and B's.
I am not sure what else to do!
Maybe some can help me......ive been dealing with these issues a lot longer than most of you.....my son is now 17 and still has encopresis. He has been diagnosed at the age of 2 with ADHD, he has aggressive behavior, Oppositional defiant disorder and now they added Asperger/bipolar....I have heard maybe he is lazy, could he have been molested, does he have a bowel obstruction, ....I have exhausted every resource and refuse to give up on him......I have never encountered this type of problem that lasts this long and no one seems to know what to do and no one can offer help.....any medical treatment facility in our area for kids have since closed or don't know either....im losing my hair as we speak .....my stomach is in disarray...and I cry a lot....someone....please advise me if you know of anything I can do for him to help him lead a productive life.....
what medicine is your child on and i have the same problem with my son and i think that stress has a lot to do with it my son is with me for 5 days then back with his father for another 5 days and things are not consecutive i am hoping and praying that in time it will all go away but i dont see that happening because of everything he has been thru just like when i get stressed out i go smoke a cigarette he gets upset and poops in his pants or will do it just to get attentions whether the attention is negative or positive he dont care... Please if anyone has any advice for me feel free to post a comment for me
this seems to be my schedule also and with 3 other children its crazy insane and I never catch it till its to late...i have learnt through reading this im gonna try a hand held game in the bathroom and see how that works...i feel so relieved im not the only parent going through this and all of you are in my prayers, but i really did think it was just us.
My 10 year old grandson has this problem. I really think he just gets too busy and doesn't go to the bathroom. My problem is that he denies he has dirty pants and will stau in them all day! His Mom and Dad ignore it but since Iam the caregiver while they work, I make him change his pants. Hope he is not 17 and still pooping his pants!!
These social behaviors sound like Aspergers or another mild form of Autism. Many with Aspergers also have ADD or ADHD. My partner's son has the pooping issue and has been diagnosed with Aspergers. He exhibits the same behaviors. no eye contact, if you ask a direct question he gets uncomfortable, often says I don't know until he is comfortable to answer. We believe that the Aspergers has also spawned the pooping issue, in that he gets so absorbed into what he is doing that he will not stop to use the bathroom. We think and are waiting to see a doctor that he may have Encorpesis. He had a problem with really hard BMs. the doctor put him on stool softeners, but he is still pooping his pants. I explained to him that He may not know that he has to go, but sitting in it is dangerous to his health, and will cause issues at school. So far no accidents at school, we told him even if he does not feel like he has to go when they get bathroom breaks to go and sit anyway. He still has small accidents, but for 2 weeks not a full out poop. he notices the poop and goes straight to the bathroom now. We also make him clean out his own undies, not as a punishment but so that he understands the work involved with cleaning up after him. We went from full loads in his pants to small accidents that are not near as hard to deal with as a full load.