AGP International House of TTCers

[HeathJo]

Yep, another detour! The Insomniac Theatre is still up an going, but now we serve coffee and pancakes for those of you worldwide who may be dropping on at the odd hour. Companionship and understanding served all day--guarenteed fresh!

[magda_s]

Nice one Heather!

[Lexima]

cute, it seems like now we have a theme for every new thread.

So I couldn't sleep at night couldn't even hold my pee till the morning, had to get up several times.  But at 9:30 I tested again and there is definitelly a line.  it's not brighter than yesterday's line, but still pretty significant.  
I don't even know if it's worth buying one of those expensive tests, I'll just go for blood test tomorrow.

[Helen72]

Well, yesterday I was looking all day for Lexima's news and now I am looking for yours.  I am proctering two midterms back to back but had to log in and check!
I have high hopes you are our next success story!

[fifi blue]

Holy ****, I didn't log on for a whole day and look what I missed!!  Lexima, I'm so happy for you.  Congratulations and best wishes to you and your dh.

Madga, I read your post re: number of embies to transfer.  My dr and I will put back only 3 (if I ever have 3 to put back).

[babyalive]

Wow, I am just so very excited for Lexima.   I really think her good news is going to starta chain reaction for me and my AGP sisters.  You know they say BFP is catchy.  

Magda,  I don't know his background in terms of where he grew up.  But, his audio interview sounds like he is from the south.  He has a very slight southern way of speaking.  He currently lives in California though.  His ethnic background is English/Irish on his dad's side and English/Native American on his mom's side.  He has a bachelors degree in religious studies.  His profile states his profession as "clergy".  He's working toward his masters degree in religion (I think).  He's married with one daughter.  My deciding factor for choosing him was his audio interview. He just sounded like a very grounded, intelligent, caring, thoughtful person.  

Dee - good luck at your appointment!  I'm waiting for the full report!

Heather Jo - It's 9:30 am and I'm just getting up and moving.  Your pancake house opening is making my mouth water.  (-:

[babyalive]

OK.  6dpo and just now my boobs started to hurt while I was typing the last message.  Hmm...here comes the torture.  Up until now I was symptom free and it made it very easy to forget the 2ww torture.  But, I was up 6 times last night to pee, my temps have been in the 99's since the day after my IUI and now my boobs are starting to hurt.  Here we go.....hang on it's going to be a bumpy ride...lol.

[HeathJo]

Lex--I say wait for the blood test. You are now PUPO (Pregnant Until Proven Otherwise) and just need to see the numbers. I wouldn't be suprised if you had twins roasting in there!

Helen--You are too cute! Focus on your exam-proctoring: I am holding out until Wednesday's blood test. With the addition of heartburn to my list of ailments, it is just a big mind game at this point. My bbs KILL, but that is nothing really new, and I keep getting HORRID headaches. PLus, the heartburn really stinks. I never get heartburn. But, I would not EVEN be surprised if AF showed up. These meds can screw with your body big time (and your head)!

Lisa--Welcome to the Jungle, Baby! Don't worry, we are here for you just as you always are for us.

Mary--How are you???

Glad you guys like the Pancake House theme. I don't know if they have IHOP in Australia or Syria, but if not, you are missing out! (Sort of. . .)

[Helen72]

Sorry about all of the headaches, heartburn and sore bbs.  I hope you are not suffering for nothing!  I guess I'll try to wait till Wednesday like yourself but I reserve the right to change my mind  :)

Frankly, I don't think this is my month.  I do not have symptoms still although I do feel hyper.  I could barely sit on my *** through two exams.  Considering everyone feels tired and sleepy when prego, it's a bad sign!  My bbs are getting sore which for me is a symptom of AF approaching.  So, no real reason to test early...

[HeathJo]

Thanks for yor sympathy. You read my mind AGAIN! I was thinking, "Boy, if I am not pg then I am suffering for no reason!"

About testing: just do what you feel like at the moment. You, of course, as a woman, ALWAYS have the right to change your mind. It comes with being female.

I am trying to imagine you, the professor, hyper while procotoring university exams. What does one do? Sit on their hands? Read math books?? I am teasing you of course, but it is a very cute image. You should call a hyper break and let everyone yell and run around the room for 30 seconds! I am sure that is against policy, but how cool would it be?

Maybe this IS your month--beinger hyper before AF? How often does that happen? I have heard of people being hyper and energetic from day 1 of pregnancy. You never know. . . that could be you. Me, I always have some ailment or another, so these "symptoms" could be psycho-somatic or just hormones. (If so, I really want to find out how to get rid of the heartburn psychologically.)

Being in limbo sucks. I'll hang in there if you will! (What choice do we have?)

[ms320]

Lexima:  I can't wait for your results tomorrow.  It is so very exciting.  I am thinking that you are a trend setter, and that many more BFPs are to follow.

Heather:  Sorry you are feeling so lousy.  How worth it though, if it is all because of a BFP.  My fingers are crossed for you

Helen:  My fingers are crossed for you too for Wed (or tomorrow if you can't hold out.)  Remember,don't read into the absence of signs/symptoms.  As far as being hyper, last year I had a huge early morning exercise bug very early in my pregnancy, before it was detectable.  I would wake up at 4AM, and by 5 I was needed to be on the treadmill.  That all came to a halting stop about three days after I got a +HPT.  At that point, I would get out of bed at 9AM, and be ready for a nap at 10:30.  Everybody, and every body is different, so just keep thinking positive thoughts.  


I love the new intro.  It was very appropriate.  I had to go in for early b/w, and since dh was off he went with me.  There was no traffic due to the holiday, so we were in and out very quickly.  DH decided to make a day of it, so he took me to IHOP for breakfast.  It has been so long, and it was so good.  You can imagine my surprise when I read the pancake reference in the new intro.  I am hoping that we all become the IHOPs  -- International House of Pregos.  I crack myself up.  

I got a call from my nurse today, and I will stay on the same dose of stims for the next three days.  Next follow up b/w is Thurdsay AM.  No side effects as of yet.  The injections are a breeze, much better than the Ganirelix.

[HeathJo]

Good news all around, it sounds like :-) I am so glad things are going smoothly and that you aren't bothered by the shots.

I must have psychicly known you were going to IHOP--what a bizarre coincidence! I love the International House of Pregos--as soon as we all get our BFPs, that is our new name. (You may crack yourself up, but you crack me up,too!)

Yes (dramatic sigh) I hope all of my suffering is worth it. If not, I will have to take after my MIL and keep playing the martyr card!

[magda_s]

Lexima... so have everything crossed for you... Good luck with your test tomorrow.  

Lisa, what's that saying???  From your mouth to God's Ear?  Here's to a chain reaction!!!
Very cool mix in your donor's background by the way!  
Now buckle in and hang on and we'll all just pray it's not too bumpy a ride for you!!!


Heather, we have NOTHING in Syria!!! (Actually that's a lie... in the last couple of years we got KFC and even a couple of stores selling GAP and Blue Navy.... oooh... we're on a role now!!!)
Love the "PUPO"!!
Glad to know I'm not the only one who thinks "I hope I'm not suffering for nothing"... Does anyone else get angry if it IS for nothing.  Both attempts, when I found out it wasn't working, I got so angry about the pain.  It's hardly as if it was intense pain and uncomfortable as it might have been, I was happy to deal with it.  But when I found out it was all falling apart, I still had to do the progesterone injections, and the first one I did after knowing it was falling apart, I almost burst into tears I was so angry about having to be poked and prodded and having to feel so bloated and sore and generally crappy.

ooooohhh... JUST realised what IHOP is!!!  Tee hee...  Duh!  Okay... I'm a bit slow!
Now I'm craving pancakes... better yet, crepes!!!!  Might have to make some tonight!!!
Mary, hope you enjoyed yours and hope all goes well for you with the follow up b/w.

Helen, we've all said it before but really, no symptoms doesn't necessarily mean anything.  But God knows how easy it is to be certain that it DOES mean something when considering one's own situation.  Have everything crossed for you too.
Just try to keep yourself out of the papers... I can just see it now... Proctor Wreaks Havoc in Exam Hall !!!

[HeathJo]

Hey there! Yep, still awake at 2am. You know, I haven't really "suffered", I am just impatient. I haven't had to go through the losses many of these guys (you included) have. Forgive me if my whining seems to overshadow that fact, because it never does in my mind.

Hey, if you ever want clothes or anything shipped to you, just let me know. I can be your personal shopper!

I love crepes. . .mmmmmmmmm. Not the custardy kind made here in the U.S. but the real kind I had in France. Thick alsmost like a pancake and a zillion different ways to eat them!

Wonder how Dee's appt went--I think it's today? Or Maybe Thursday?

[empty]

HeathJo - are you still up?? its 8.30pm here - Tuesday. Ok so here it is. I am officially an IUIer.

My first blood test is scheduled next Friday to check estrogen and progestrone. I then start Synaral nasal spray for a week, then start my injectables (Gonal F or Puregon)  for 10-14 days (while still on Synarel) and then Ovidrel and then IUI. So guess this is it!!

I feel so much better now knowing i am going to get started on something but i know i am a month away from the IUI itself!

On the other side of thing - i detected an LH surge on CD11......wwwwwwwwwooooooooohooooooooooooo

[magda_s]

Heather, I don't see you as "whining"... I've said this before but I have learned a great deal from this and if anything, I can honestly say that I understand how the other women on this forum might feel.  Sure, some have gone through far worse than I and some for far longer than I and there are others still who have had it easier.  I read a post where someone was asking what the chance of success is and a couple of women, one in her 40s, responded saying that they are pregnant from their first IVF attempts.  Couldn't help feeling a touch envious (okay, maybe more than a touch) but you know what?  For each of us on here, whatever we have experienced with regards to ttc is the extent of what we can truly understand and it is painful because it is what has affected us personally.  Just because someone else has been through worse does not mean that we should be expected to belittle our own "suffering".  And yes, I agree... getting the injections and driving back and forth wasn't "suffering" either but once I got that BFN, I was pretty bloody angry about it and I certainly saw it as a far bigger deal than it had seemed previously!

Empty... I'm so excited for you that you are now on a set path.  I felt so much better once we had made a decision about the doctor and I'd started on the pill.  Although, like you, nothing's actually going to happen for a while... there is a path ahead of me and I'm on it.  Anything before hitting that path feels like you're just floating in limbo and it feels so awful.
Best of luck to you.

Ladies, question for you... should I be concerned that this is day 10 since AF showed after my BFP turned into a BFN and I still have a touch of bleeding.  VERY little, very pale brownish red, but still there.  Should I be worried... anyone know?

[Helen72]

Magda,
your AF was also a miscarriage, so more and more prolonged bleeding is probably expected.  I am sure you don't have to worry about that.   It may also throw your cycle off.  

Empty,
welcome to IUI society!  IUI with injectables has the highest rates of success (just look at Lexima!)  I am so excited for you!

Heather,
I hope you are sleeping right now!  What does a hyper prof do during an exam?  I just kept pacing up and down the auditorium.  The strange thing is that I even did not have any coffee!  Today I got up around 7 also hyper.

I feel this cycle is a bust so I am interviewing on Thursday for an extra job with UT extension office.  I hope it will help us pay for ivf.  Will test tomorrow or Thursday before the interview; that will help me determine whether to take the job and what teaching load to accept.  I do have a full time job right now but it looks like ivf+meds will really cost us all of our savings.  
Well, gotta go administer CPR to students as they check exam solutions on line…

[magda_s]

Thanks Helen... I figured as much but the whole thing's seemed very weird to me.  I expected AF to be really heavy due to the m/c but not so... just dragged on very lightly.

tee hee... thought the CPR thing very funny.  What is it you do exactly Helen?  Just curious because my DH is in education as you've probably gathered and I have been in the past myself.

Right... off to take a shower to get the nerves under control... who'd have thunk that having your DH's 23yr old daughter over for a couple of weeks could be so stressful??  I hate to admit it because she's really very nice but I can't take much more of this.  She barely lifts a finger to help around the house or pick up after herself and it's blown me away how she has this natural expectation that he rfather will pay for everything.  He paid for her ticket from Oz, bought her a couple of sweaters, paid for some software she wanted, paid for her trip to Jordan to visit Petra... and he seems to think this is fine!!  Aaaargh... ok shower time!

[Heather5]

Hi Magda! Just wanted to let you know that I too had the prolonged, light bleeding after my miscarriage in September. I was also expecting heavier bleeding, but only had one day of medium bleeding, followed by light bleeding and spotting for several days. All together, it lasted 10 days.

[ms320]

Helen:  Glad to hear that pacing up and down the auditorium was how you handled your proctoring.  I envisioned you sitting at the front of the room, shooting rubber bands at the poor students. That would actually be quite funny as they would think of everybody else as the culprit.  Don't give up hope, no AF = possibility.  I will be thinking about you.

Heather:  I hope you are sleeping.  Wait, I think I hear some distant snoring --  is it you?

Empty: I am glad to hear you have a definitive plan.  IUI with injectibles -- I sense another BFP in the AGP future!

Magda:  As Helen said, I wouldn't worry about your strange cycle.  I miscarried last year, and had bleeding on and off for almost 2 weeks.  At first it was like a normal AF, then it basically stopped and started with the flow much lighter. I also didn't get a regular cycle for almost 6 weeks.


Everything is status quo here.  My RE does not want any strenuous exercise/activity during stim time, so I am officially on extended vacation.  I am presently bored.  But, I decided that I am going to utilize the time effectively.  I have some materials for the Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist exam, so I am going to take some time each day to prepare for the exam.  Lots of fun!!

[ms320]

Heather:  You must have posted just as I was typing.  Close your eyes and picture me holding a watch in front of you.  It is swaying back and forth.  You are getting sleepy,
s l e e p y,   s   l   e    e   p   y.  Poof, you're asleep.  You will remain asleep until I clap my hands.  Hope it worked : }

[fifi blue]

Madga, are you on birth control?  That can cause breakthrough bleeding.

[Helen72]

Mary,
you are so funny!  I'll try rubber bands next time.
Also, you are trying make Heather5 sleepy, not HeathJo.  It's about 11:30 am here in TX and I am sure HeathJo is sleeping now.  Heather5 is also from TX (I think) so they are easy to confuse.  Glad you found a productive thing to do during your extended vacation.  It will make the time go by faster.  

Magda,
I teach at UT-Austin, economics department.  Hence, longhorn bear on my profile picture wearing the UT color orange (longhorn is the mascot of UT but I did not want a big cow as my profile picture).  Did you teach in the past?  What are you doing now?
Sorry you have to babysit your guest.  After weeks of hosting that can be trying.

[magda_s]

Thank you Heather and Mary for sharing your experiences.  And Fiona, yes, I am on b/c but only just started 4 days ago.
However, i think you're all right... nothing to worry about and if anything I think I'd have been surprised if things hadn't been even just a touch unusual considering the m/c.

Mary. good luck with your studies.

[magda_s]

Thank you Heather and Mary for sharing your experiences.  And Fiona, yes, I am on b/c but only just started 4 days ago.
However, i think you're all right... nothing to worry about and if anything I think I'd have been surprised if things hadn't been even just a touch unusual considering the m/c.

Mary. good luck with your studies.