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Upcoming Election who are you voting for?
Thought it might be fun to get everyones mind of ttc and hit up the election!!!
I am planning to vote for McCain....Anyone want to persuade me otherwise lol? Lets see whose voting for who!! after the next president is not only our future...but our childrens future too!!
I am planning to vote for McCain....Anyone want to persuade me otherwise lol? Lets see whose voting for who!! after the next president is not only our future...but our childrens future too!!
ughh!! I dont know who I am voting for, I think politics is a tough thing to discuss, so when I do figure it out I think I will keep it private.. :) I have enough grief without causing more for myself.
Oh you're asking for trouble with this post! ha ha... I'm with babyprayers...I'll keep my choice to myself :-)
Otherwise...hope everyone is doing great...
Otherwise...hope everyone is doing great...
I'm not going to vote for anyone :). I expect a lot more for a president. Whatever happened to the people just like the presidents in our history. Most of them were outstanding and extraordinary. They had something I admire. So for this election, I'm leaving it to the majority to decide, and I hope they make a good decision.
Well i wont start a debate or at least im trying not to but I dont think either candidate is good for this country! I was rooting for Hilary! I'm hoping but not expecting much but that our country gets better after all this. I hope like Mary says the majority makes a good decision and not a bad one.
I saw last debates and was more dissapointed with McCane then before...
I am not sure if Obama is much better because our country is not
at its best right now...so I will vote for Obama because he has more to promise and offer..
I am not sure if Obama is much better because our country is not
at its best right now...so I will vote for Obama because he has more to promise and offer..
I saw the debate last night too. It looks like McCane is never telling the truth.
I will vote for Obama because he is for the middle and poor class and I'm in there.
I will vote for Obama because he is for the middle and poor class and I'm in there.
Obama doesnt want to bring the troops home! he keeps changing his story around about it! If i was president thats the very first thing i would do! McCane is just a grouchy old man i think he just wants things his way not the right way thats how i see him anyways!
I'm a Hilary Supporter but since that's not an option I will be giving my vote to Obama. I feel he is the best choice (now that's my opinion and I do value the opinions of others). I think it is important for people to do research on both canidates and decide who you think will do the best for our country and then get out there and vote. Voting is important. I must say that whoever ends up winning will have a tough road ahead of them.They won't be able to fix the problems that have been created over night. That will take some time.
mccain. i feel like obama wants to screw me out of the money i have, and i'm not in favor of it.
They both have good qualities however after watching last nights debate I can't help but picture McCain as a two year old throwing a temper tantrum (sorry if that offends anyone). Seriously though, his tone and his very defensive attitude towards Obama was a real turn off for me. ("if you wanted to run against Bush, you should have run 4 years ago") Seriously? How informative was that comment for the American public? That sounded like me and my husband fighting back when we were teenagers- "Maybe you should've done this..." "Well, maybe you should've done this..."
It just seemed like a very immature, defensive statement to me.
I thought Obama kept his cool and kept the focus for the most part. He is less experienced, but he has so much drive and hope for our future. Taxes suck, but we can't just let our economy fix itself. I will vote Obama.
Honestly, as long as we don't have to put up with Bush anymore (again, sorry if offensive), I'll be happy!
It just seemed like a very immature, defensive statement to me.
I thought Obama kept his cool and kept the focus for the most part. He is less experienced, but he has so much drive and hope for our future. Taxes suck, but we can't just let our economy fix itself. I will vote Obama.
Honestly, as long as we don't have to put up with Bush anymore (again, sorry if offensive), I'll be happy!
taxes more than suck, it is getting completely out of control. when 40% of our family's income is going to taxes, it is too much. i don't care anymore what they are doing with it, all i know is that we earned it and we deserve to keep it.
First time since I have been 18 I will not be voting! I think neither one of them have what it takes to run this country!
I seriously didn't mean to offend you hun. I, too, am a taxpayer...not in the highest tax bracket, but by far not in the lowest either. I feel the stress and heartache about not getting to keep what we've earned too. However, my husband and I are both more concerned about how much that dollar that we have is actually worth. If this country is in financial trouble, so am I- regardless of how many thousands of my own dollars I have in the bank.
All I'm saying is that something drastic has to be done in order to make it better for everybody. We don't gain anything without sacrifice in this situation.
And I must say- this country has been out of control for years. That is not Obama's fault- he is simply trying to come up with a way to fix it.
All I'm saying is that something drastic has to be done in order to make it better for everybody. We don't gain anything without sacrifice in this situation.
And I must say- this country has been out of control for years. That is not Obama's fault- he is simply trying to come up with a way to fix it.
i can see your point, but i am not willing to sacrifice more of my income. i get no services, so for me it's not worth it. i have worked very hard to get myself a good income and i don't think it's fair that now that i have, nearly half of it goes to the government.
and don't worry, i wasn't offended.
and don't worry, i wasn't offended.
And you think McCain is a wise choice for that? He wants to tax our medical insurance for goodness sakes! I am considered middle class working america I guess, we make over 6 digits..BUT McCain is for upperclass! NOT working class. My DH is Union so he is a big influence. Although we did say maybe we wont vote, that way we don't get the blame for either one of them! LOL LORD PLEASE HELP US ALL!
The money has to come from someone or somewhere so if they don't tax us, they will tax corporations or small businesses, which in turn comes back to us anyway via higher consumer goods prices. I prefer to choose my purchases versus having a government tax me more just because i have worked hard and have a higher salary. I put in 8 years of college and graduate school and yes, I paid for school too so why should I be penalized now? I couldn't take the education tax credits because I made more than the income limit either.
My vote is for McCain. He is the one that doesn't toe the party line.
Just my opinion. I like Obama too but not for president at this time.
My vote is for McCain. He is the one that doesn't toe the party line.
Just my opinion. I like Obama too but not for president at this time.
i dont think obama's tax situation is any better. and as far as the money coming from somewhere, we are getting into a bigger and bigger hole. right now we are in the 40% tax bracket. can you seriously tax someone at 50-60-75%???? is that really realistic that over half your income is tax? no, there has to be a line in the sand somewhere and we have reached it.
Well......from seeing the debate last night I think both of them were trying to make the other feel so much smaller. But all in all, I, like other woman in these forums want children so bad that they want the best for them when they are older. So saying that I believe Obama has a more suitable plan for the children futures. On another note taxes are something we cant run or hide from so we cant blame either canidate, they wont be able to just jump in and fix a problem that soon, that was started with Bush. Both have the right outlook but the question is who will FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THEIR PLANS AND PROMISES! (SMILE)
I would just like to say that- line in the sand or not, if America crashes, we all burn. The rich, the poor, the middle class, the upper class....everybody suffers. So, suffer now or suffer later- something has to be done! If only there was such a thing as a money tree!
And EXCELLENT point LIL_LADY24! But we have nothing to worry about because Presidential Candidates are the most honest, humble, trustworthy people around. LOL!
And EXCELLENT point LIL_LADY24! But we have nothing to worry about because Presidential Candidates are the most honest, humble, trustworthy people around. LOL!
Besides the Iraq war and our deficit, one of the biggest reasons we are in this financial crisis isn't due to politics or corporations (per se) but rather consumer greed (and greed from a lot of irresponsible mortgage lenders. The housing crisis is imacting everyone and as a result, the financial markets are in a complete mess. Many consumers purchased homes they couldn't afford and either didn't read or didn't understand the impact of interest only or negative amortization (aka option arms - note that Washington Mutual and Countrywide were the largest issuers of these loans so look up their news/stock prices over the last four years) and how the payment would be way more than what they budgeted. Then, to make matters worse, those same consumers pulled out record levels of equity from their homes (and in turn buying consumer goods vs. putting back the equity into the home such as finishing a basement or landscaping, etc.) so when housing prices fell, even if they could sell them, they owed more than what the house was worth so there was really no option for these homeowners but to foreclose. To top off all of this irresponsible borrowing, credit card debt has increased over 300% in the last three years. Just think, this was BEFORE unemployement levels started to increase...
Now, what nobody tells you...Did all of you know that banks/lenders are supposed to have a percentage of their business for "emerging markets" (aka Subprime) consumers? These are low income and minority consumers who typically don't have even close the the credit quality as the average consumer. These loans in turn, were sold to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac under their own government programs and we all know what happened there. People who thought they would be able to afford home ownership had their home taken away from them due to foreclosure and that makes their credit ratings even worse. The biggest watchdog to make sure these consumers had lending availability is ACORN.
The way to fix the economy is for consumers to spend money on consumable goods not to tax us. This does not mean irresponsible buying with credit cards, which won't even matter because interest rates will be so high and credit frozen so consumers won't be able to get as much credit as before. The worst thing we can do is tax people since it just takes the disposable cash out of their accounts and back to the government for "programs".
I am an independent voter and don't identify myself with either party but I have also been in the banking/mortgage/financial services industry for over 10 years now and I have seen directly how we are impacting the economy. What makes me so mad is that everyone points to the institutions when things aren't going well for us when we should really be pointing the finger inward as it is really the American consumers who were/are driving the economy in this direction. There are still around $850 billion of those interest only and neg am loans that will reset in 2009 and 2010 according to a study done by Lehman Brothers (again, look at their position now) back in 5/2005 so we still have about 24 months of this to go. If the government doesn't mess up the bailout, it should help a bit.
Wow, I NEVER thought I would talk about politics on this site. I am tempted to hit my delete button but I am afraid that we are not getting the true story from the news/government. This will be my last message ladies. Let's put all of this passion into some SSBD!!!! ; )
Now, what nobody tells you...Did all of you know that banks/lenders are supposed to have a percentage of their business for "emerging markets" (aka Subprime) consumers? These are low income and minority consumers who typically don't have even close the the credit quality as the average consumer. These loans in turn, were sold to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac under their own government programs and we all know what happened there. People who thought they would be able to afford home ownership had their home taken away from them due to foreclosure and that makes their credit ratings even worse. The biggest watchdog to make sure these consumers had lending availability is ACORN.
The way to fix the economy is for consumers to spend money on consumable goods not to tax us. This does not mean irresponsible buying with credit cards, which won't even matter because interest rates will be so high and credit frozen so consumers won't be able to get as much credit as before. The worst thing we can do is tax people since it just takes the disposable cash out of their accounts and back to the government for "programs".
I am an independent voter and don't identify myself with either party but I have also been in the banking/mortgage/financial services industry for over 10 years now and I have seen directly how we are impacting the economy. What makes me so mad is that everyone points to the institutions when things aren't going well for us when we should really be pointing the finger inward as it is really the American consumers who were/are driving the economy in this direction. There are still around $850 billion of those interest only and neg am loans that will reset in 2009 and 2010 according to a study done by Lehman Brothers (again, look at their position now) back in 5/2005 so we still have about 24 months of this to go. If the government doesn't mess up the bailout, it should help a bit.
Wow, I NEVER thought I would talk about politics on this site. I am tempted to hit my delete button but I am afraid that we are not getting the true story from the news/government. This will be my last message ladies. Let's put all of this passion into some SSBD!!!! ; )
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