Welcome to our Forum. I'll be pleased to comment, confirming what has already been said on the HIV Prevention Community site- there is no known risk for acquiring HIV from kissing, including deep kissing, even if your partner has sores or gum disease and even if you have sores or gum disease. There are no cases in which HIV has EVER been proven to occur as exposures of this sort. As a result, there is no reason for concern or for testing.
It is far more likely that you acquired one of the far more common, community acquired viral illnesses that most people get through their activities of daily living from time to time. Such an infection could have been acquired from your bar-girl partner or through your activities of normal living. Further, the symptoms you described began to soon to be a sign of recently acquired HIV- the symptoms or recent HIV typically begin between 2 and 6 weeks after exposure to an infected partner, not just a few days later.
I hope these comments are helpful. As I said, none of the activities you describe suggest any risk for HIV or nay need for testing. There is no need for you to worry that you might have caught an STI (including HIV) that you could pass on to a regular partner through these activities. EWH
Should I worry about having sexual contact with my long term partner? Am I safe assured?
I wasn't trying to be argumentative. Just asking based in science why kissing was not considered a risk if blood or open sores were present. I was just asking you medical opinion as a professional. Statistically speaking why blood contact with open sores in the mouth don't transmit.
You are being argumentative. This topic has been studied in thousands of persons and found to not be assocated with HIV. Those are the scientific observations on the subject.
You asked my assessment and advice. I gave it, based on caring for thousands of pateints and studying this and other STIs for over 30 years. If you wish to believe otherwise, that is up to you but this is not a debate.
I wish you well. EWH
Last Question,
From a medical science standpoint. What factors would prove that hiv cannot be transmitted via deep or open mouth kissing. What data causes you to discredit the chances of this happening. For example, blood to blood contact or contact with infected blood would make perfect sense for possible transmission. Therefore, why does kissing even with open sores and poor dental hygiene get discredited as a mode of transmission. Wouldn't infected blood be able to transmit across weakened mucous membranes in an individuals mouth with poor dental conditions.
As you were already told on the Communtiy Prevention site, there are no proven instances in which HIV was transmitted by kissing. The CDC is overly conservative and speaking in theoretical, not real terms.
I am not aware of the report you descivbe.
No change in my assessment or advice. EWH
Besides the diarrhea from being nervous about the situation. The other symptoms did appear around the two week mark.
1. why does CDC report HIV deep kissing incident. Also, the CDC highly recommends against kissing a person infected with HIV. If its zero risk, why would this matter?
2. How valid is the one report of the female getting hiv from deep kissing her infected partner. I understand these two were in a relationship. But, how many people may have gotten it in similar situations like mine. Maybe people get it through deep kissing. However, they may just write it off as something more risky.