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Risk from masturbation, kissing, massage and touching – many times!
Dear Doctor,
First please accept my sincere gratitude for all the great work you are doing here. I finally decide to post my own question here and please help to assess what exactly my REAL RISK is. I am a 24 years old unmarried male from Shanghai, China. I’m still virgin, i.e. has never inserted my penis, protected or unprotected, into anyone’s vagina, rectum or mouth. Also, I’m uncircumcised. During the past year, I have many times experienced the following 4 kinds of scenarios:
1. Masturbation. Have visited local massage parlors 9 or 10 times where the masseuse offer hand job (or even oral sex, which I never accept). EVERY TIME, I touch and play the masseuse’s breast and nipple for some time, and then I masturbate myself in front of the naked masseuse. For most safety, I even always use a paper tissue to partly wrap my penis during self-masturbation to maximally avoid my hand-my penis contact. No fingering or mutual separation, and I never let the masseuses touch my penis.
Concern: I didn't notice whether there is a small or minimal amount breast milk/breast fluid leaking out of partner’s breast/nipple when I touch them and I’m AFRAID these fluid might have come into contact with my penis (though there was a paper tissue layer in between). I’m even more afraid because I’m uncircumcised and similar scenarios have happened 10 times…
2. Kissing. kissed 3 random girls in the past year in the bar. All the kissing engaged is just closed mouth (maybe a little bit open but no evident tongue touch I think, there has been once or two that some saliva of the girl come in contact with my lower lip)
3. Massage. The masseuse above massaged say my neck with her hands for around 30 seconds - no idea if any cut or even fresh blood on her hands - and there has been some small acnes on my neck
4. Touching. What if I have touched some breast milk or nipple fluid when I play masseuse's breast? I never had obvious wound on my hand, except some minor peeled skin or tinea.
First please accept my sincere gratitude for all the great work you are doing here. I finally decide to post my own question here and please help to assess what exactly my REAL RISK is. I am a 24 years old unmarried male from Shanghai, China. I’m still virgin, i.e. has never inserted my penis, protected or unprotected, into anyone’s vagina, rectum or mouth. Also, I’m uncircumcised. During the past year, I have many times experienced the following 4 kinds of scenarios:
1. Masturbation. Have visited local massage parlors 9 or 10 times where the masseuse offer hand job (or even oral sex, which I never accept). EVERY TIME, I touch and play the masseuse’s breast and nipple for some time, and then I masturbate myself in front of the naked masseuse. For most safety, I even always use a paper tissue to partly wrap my penis during self-masturbation to maximally avoid my hand-my penis contact. No fingering or mutual separation, and I never let the masseuses touch my penis.
Concern: I didn't notice whether there is a small or minimal amount breast milk/breast fluid leaking out of partner’s breast/nipple when I touch them and I’m AFRAID these fluid might have come into contact with my penis (though there was a paper tissue layer in between). I’m even more afraid because I’m uncircumcised and similar scenarios have happened 10 times…
2. Kissing. kissed 3 random girls in the past year in the bar. All the kissing engaged is just closed mouth (maybe a little bit open but no evident tongue touch I think, there has been once or two that some saliva of the girl come in contact with my lower lip)
3. Massage. The masseuse above massaged say my neck with her hands for around 30 seconds - no idea if any cut or even fresh blood on her hands - and there has been some small acnes on my neck
4. Touching. What if I have touched some breast milk or nipple fluid when I play masseuse's breast? I never had obvious wound on my hand, except some minor peeled skin or tinea.
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
Welcome to our Forum. I have only read your first paragraph so far but before I read more, I want to anticipate what I am going to tell you after I read the rest of your questions. I suspect you are not at any risk for HIV. In adults HIV is transmitted only through penetrative sexual contact between an infected and uninfected person. It is not transmitted through kissing, touching or masturbation. Thus if you have never had penetrative sexual contact with a partner, there is no need for concern about HIV nor any need for HIV testing. I will now read the rest of your question and will reply.
1. First let me remind you that most masseuses and commercial sex workers do not have HIV. Even if they do however, HIV is not transmitted by touching infected secretions, including breast milk with hands and fingers. This is true even if there were small cuts or sores on your hands. There is no need to use paper to cover your hands for masturbation either.
2. IV has never been transmitted by kissing. Even deep kissing with tongue contact and exchange of saliva. This is true even if you or your partner has dental or gum diseases.
3. You acne lesions do not represent a potential site for infection to enter your body. HIV is not transmitted through the sort of massage you describe.
4. As I said above, touching the breast milk of an infected partner with your hand, even if the hand had cuts is not a risk for HIV.
I hope these comments are helpful and reassuring. There is no risk for HIV from any of the activities you describe. thus there is no reason for testing either. I hope my responses are helpful to you. EWH
1. First let me remind you that most masseuses and commercial sex workers do not have HIV. Even if they do however, HIV is not transmitted by touching infected secretions, including breast milk with hands and fingers. This is true even if there were small cuts or sores on your hands. There is no need to use paper to cover your hands for masturbation either.
2. IV has never been transmitted by kissing. Even deep kissing with tongue contact and exchange of saliva. This is true even if you or your partner has dental or gum diseases.
3. You acne lesions do not represent a potential site for infection to enter your body. HIV is not transmitted through the sort of massage you describe.
4. As I said above, touching the breast milk of an infected partner with your hand, even if the hand had cuts is not a risk for HIV.
I hope these comments are helpful and reassuring. There is no risk for HIV from any of the activities you describe. thus there is no reason for testing either. I hope my responses are helpful to you. EWH
I also sucked her breast. Fear of infected fluid
A related discussion, Massage/ heavy ejaculations on hand/ Anus rub was started.
Last month, I went to hospital to remove my
small skin surgery stiches, the surgery wound
was closed and I did not see any blood. The Doctor
told me that the there were still stiches hole,
asked me to prevent the healed wound from water for 24 hours. But 12 hours later, I went to message. If the girl's hands were contaminated with HIV fluids from last customers 5 minutes ago, and she touched my healed wound but the
stiches hole was not fully repaired, is there a possibility that I will contact hiv since the stiches hole was deep in the tissue and the hiv fluid may go along the stiches hole into the deep tissue even though I did not see bloods
small skin surgery stiches, the surgery wound
was closed and I did not see any blood. The Doctor
told me that the there were still stiches hole,
asked me to prevent the healed wound from water for 24 hours. But 12 hours later, I went to message. If the girl's hands were contaminated with HIV fluids from last customers 5 minutes ago, and she touched my healed wound but the
stiches hole was not fully repaired, is there a possibility that I will contact hiv since the stiches hole was deep in the tissue and the hiv fluid may go along the stiches hole into the deep tissue even though I did not see bloods
In my non medical opinion, but with experience with obsessive compulsive thoughts I have a feeling that is probably a greater risk to you - that you get stuck in a though and it snowballs in your mind. Practice meditation, fresh air & exercises, etc.. and continue to practice safe sex when you do eventually have it with a woman, maybe consider going for HIV tests together before starting to have sex, and do this every few months as a sign of respect, but you need to live your life also and the way you're describing your sexual encounters is much more careful than I would think 95% of people are in those cases. The things you need to be worried about is: blood transfusion, anal penetration without protection, vaginal penetrative sex with no protection. semen in mouth, vaginal fluid in mouth - especially with sores in your mouth, in that order of risk. The rest is your mind being obsessive on the possible risk factors.
I also sucked her breast. Fear of infected fluid
I had sores on my tongue and inside cheek when I kissed her. Am I exposed to HIV?
Worried one.
Worried one.
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
1. No, it is not common but it is not unusual for there to occasionally be small amounts of breast milk present at such times.
2. There is no risk with either self-masturbation or masturbation by a partner, even if the partner's genital secretions were to get on you. No risk.
3. No risk means just that. Your risk for being hit by a meteorite are higher than your risks for infection. EWH
2. There is no risk with either self-masturbation or masturbation by a partner, even if the partner's genital secretions were to get on you. No risk.
3. No risk means just that. Your risk for being hit by a meteorite are higher than your risks for infection. EWH
Thank you doctor. Could you please allow me to ask a few more questions for clarification purpose before I close this topic with your professional and helpful answers as always.
1. Actually I never have evidence that the masseuse I encountered had breast milk / fluid discharge. It is just assumption, or frankly speaking it may just be imagination from my deep fear about being potentially infected by HIV. Is it common or rare that women will have this kind of discharge from their nipples upon sexual arousal? (I should say with confidence that I never saw breast milk in all these encounters actually)
2. Given the information provided above, what do you think is the risk with regard to my self-masturbation activity in the massage parlor? I have most fear about this now because it happened many times and the "idea" about breast discharge just came into my mind these days and keeps me upset.
3. As to your conclusion, do you mean that post all these activities I described above, I just do not even need to think about HIV and there is absolutely NO risk for me to get infected by HIV - or the odds is so minimal that it is just like "being hit by meteorite" or "being killed when taking an airplane"?
Appreciated.
1. Actually I never have evidence that the masseuse I encountered had breast milk / fluid discharge. It is just assumption, or frankly speaking it may just be imagination from my deep fear about being potentially infected by HIV. Is it common or rare that women will have this kind of discharge from their nipples upon sexual arousal? (I should say with confidence that I never saw breast milk in all these encounters actually)
2. Given the information provided above, what do you think is the risk with regard to my self-masturbation activity in the massage parlor? I have most fear about this now because it happened many times and the "idea" about breast discharge just came into my mind these days and keeps me upset.
3. As to your conclusion, do you mean that post all these activities I described above, I just do not even need to think about HIV and there is absolutely NO risk for me to get infected by HIV - or the odds is so minimal that it is just like "being hit by meteorite" or "being killed when taking an airplane"?
Appreciated.
One correction in the 1#point: ...No fingering or mutual MASTURBATION, and I never let the masseuses touch my penis.
Also, if it matters: i believe i never experienced any ARS-like symptoms during the past year post the "exposures", e.g. fever, sore throat, rash, etc. There has been only once that i caught a cold with cough and nasal congestion which recovered in less than one week.
Thanks in advance for your reply.
Also, if it matters: i believe i never experienced any ARS-like symptoms during the past year post the "exposures", e.g. fever, sore throat, rash, etc. There has been only once that i caught a cold with cough and nasal congestion which recovered in less than one week.
Thanks in advance for your reply.
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