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Please help me doc, i'm terrified

Hi,
My story started 12 weeks ago.I was visiting a massage parol here in Romania.The girl( don't know her hiv status) start rubbing hard her vagine over my penis.There wasn't any kind of penetration, i sure about this, but the frottage was really hard.Next day, i felt somethink is wrong with my penis.After 3 days my penis become red and i had a burning feeling.I went to a dermatologist and he gave me metronidazol and doxycycline for 1 week.After that the burning was still there, i went another doctor who gave me cyprofloxacin for 1 week(1g each day).From now on, started my concerns regarding hiv.After 2 weeks from my exposure, i had feverish(low degrees) for 4-5 weeks.After 1 more week i had high fever and very bad diarrhea with blood in stool, about 3 days.After 1 week more, all other symptoms have shown: white tongue and aftoasa stomatitis, burning legs and hands, fatigue, constipation/diarrhea, rumbling stomach, feverish senzation, some sort of inflamation in all body, i lost some kg, night sweats, sore throat and, bad taste in my mouth.Even now i have low degree fever and sore throat.

Tests:

HIV 1/2 Ab - 3 weeks - negative
HIV 1/2 Ab - 5 weeks - negative
HIV 1/2 Ab/Ag - 8 weeks - negative
PCR RNA HIV 1 - 7 and a half weeks - not detected(detection limit 20 copies/ml)
HIV 1/2 Ab - 11 weeks - negative
HIV 1/2 Ab - 12 weeks - negative(rapid test, not ELISA)
Low lymfocites 19.5%

1.Are my symptoms due to ARS?
2.For 2007 till now i had a lot of neurological symptoms.I had a lot of RMN and my brain was ok.My neurological symptoms: fatigue, back pain, numb hands and legs, memory issue, walk unsteadily.He also recomand to have some test for autoimmune disorders, but i didn't have any further tests.Do you think, if i have an autoimmune disorders this will delay the HIV seroconversion?
3..The infectionists docs here in Romania say that PCR RNA test it s conclusive, but i know that your opinion is different.Why?

I really appreciate an detailed answer.
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well,
u wanna know my story its something similar 2 u exactly two months back i was drunk and had protected sex with a CSW,,but unprotected oral sex..twice..
After the incident i felt really scared and guilty..i kept on searching all the symptoms over the internet and got many reviews which scared me..after an week i started noticing some symptoms of ARS such as swollen chest,groin neck region(it would be my anxiety also.?) after a month i got stomach upset and m having loose stools till date , twice watery stools too also there are few red spots on my arm one on my neck and chest..kind of rash...i have been very scared and have ask the expert several times in HIV forum all the people out there say that oral sex is a zero risk and u font have HIV therefore u need no testing....they also say that symptoms do not indicate anything in particular...i still have not taken an HIV test i will take one in some days......
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Hi man,

Maybe you can tell me your story.You will help me alot.I m just terrified coz here are a lot of peoples with almost the same symptoms, all tested negative.Don t you think somethink strange.

I wait for your answer.Thanks.Take care.
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well hi,
m not a professional doctor but have studied ample of cases and done research ..still doing in this subject..first of all
your sexual exposure involved zero risk..coz hiv is only transmitted via unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse.secondly your symptoms are just common not a typical ARS symptom..and the most important and valid proof is that you have tested negative time and again ,also on the12th week..which is 100% conclusive that you DONT HAVE HIV.....calm down and move on in your life...dont be terrified...
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Hi doc,

I really want to answer my questions.If i have to pay the fee one more time, it's ok, just tell me doc.

Thank you very much
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Hi doc,

Please answer my questions.You will help a terrified guy.I promis no further questions.

Thank you
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.am i still safe stressing on the fact that she was a CSW and had sex with 3 different males before me.....and what bout my loose stool symptoms,,,?...help
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Hi doc,

Thank you so much for your answer.I would like to put some more questions.Your answer will help me a lot, i'm so worry now.

1.How long(from infection) is p24 detectable in tests?(hiv 1/2 ag/ab test)
2.It is 100% conclusive my PCR ARN done at 7 weeks and a half?
3.My lymfocites are only 19%(1500), in january 2011, my lymfocites was 38%.Could be other viral illnes?
4.Do you think that i have to do cd4/cd8?
5.I read here a lot of stories with guys that have a lot of symptoms after a sexual encounter and they teste negative for hiv.It worrisome, don't you think somethink it's happend?A lot of them have also low cd4, and inverted report(cd4/cd8)
6.Could you give me some cloues?What should i investigate further

I know it s a lot of questions.Please help me doc.No further questions.

Thank you
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Hello,
Thank you very much for your post and welcome to our forum.
After reading your post, I can conclude with total confidence that you do not have HIV.  Firstly, your sexual encounter was low risk or no risk; and secondly you have had enough negative tests at the correct window periods.  I would consider fully conclusive all the negative tests after 8 weeks, icluding the HIV 1/2 Ab/Ag, PCR RNA and the last two antibody tests.  I will answer each of your questions here below:

1.Are my symptoms due to ARS?

NO, THEY ARE NOT.  ACUTE SERO-CONVERSION SYMPTOMS WOULD HAVE NOT LASTED AS LONG AS YOURS.  BESIDES YOU HAVE HAD NEGATIVE TEST RESULTS AFTER HAVING HAD THE SYMPTOMS.  BY DEFINITION, THAT WOULD TOTALLY EXCLUDE THAT YOUR SYMPTOMS ARE THOSE OF HIV SERO-CONVERSION.  ONE GETS SYMPTOMS WHEN BECOMING POSITIVE, WHCIH MEANS THAT THE BODY IS PRODUCING ANTIBODIES,

2.For 2007 till now i had a lot of neurological symptoms.I had a lot of RMN and my brain was ok.My neurological symptoms: fatigue, back pain, numb hands and legs, memory issue, walk unsteadily.He also recomand to have some test for autoimmune disorders, but i didn't have any further tests.Do you think, if i have an autoimmune disorders this will delay the HIV seroconversion?

NOT NECESSARILY; HAVING AN AUTOIMMUNE CONDITION DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOUR IMMUNE RESPONSE TO INFECTIONS IS REDUCED; IN FACT IN SOME CASES, THE IMMUNE RESPONSE IS ACTUALLY INCREASED.  IN ANY CASE, THE TEST THAT YOU HAD AT 8 WEEKS (TESTING FOR THE ANTIGEN) AND THE PCR RNA TEST ARE BOTH INDEPENDENT OF THE PRODUCTION OF ANTIBODIES.  BOTH WERE NEGATIVE EXCLUDING THE POSSIBILITY THAT YOU MENTION.

3..The infectionists docs here in Romania say that PCR RNA test it s conclusive, but i know that your opinion is different.Why?

THIS ALL DEPENDS ON THE TIMINGS WHEN THE TEST IS PERFOMED.  IN YOUR CASE A NEGATIVE PCR RNA TEST AT 7 WEKS CAN BE CONSIDERED CONCLUSIVE.

I can assure you that your symptoms have absolutely nothing to do with HIV.  You do not need any further tests.
Best wishes,
Dr José
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