Asking on behalf of a friend

[bw86]

Hi, I am asking these 2 questions on behalf of my friend who is really concerned about this stuff.

1st. He told me that he was at a party last weekend and he had dry sex with this girl he met there. He said that she was rubbing her panty covered vagina on his pants in which case he started to get an erection and had some ejaculation (mostly pre-ejaculation) through his underwear and pants. He also noticed that she had made some vaginal fluid secretion coming out of her vagina as well and is worried if that puts him at risk for hiv or an std since he didn't ask the girl what her history was?

2nd. He told me that he was watching porn on a public computer in a computer lab and had started to massage his penis or masturbate through his clothing. He told me that he had some pre-ejaculations through his underwear and his jogging pants, but didn't think anything of it until after he stopped doing it. I asked him why was he doing it and he told me that he wasn't thinking when he did this. He started to panic when he started thinking about what if an hiv person or someone with an std had left some little blood particle or semen/ vaginal secretions on the keyboard. I told him to calm down and that I don't think that it's possible b/c of the air drying it out in matter of seconds. But he refuses to listen. So my question to you on this second question is if he is at a potential risk of contracting hiv/std through his clothing when he had pe-ejaculated or can hiv/std some how move down the through fabric of his clothing once he started to pre-cum?

[H. Hunter Handsfield, M.D.]

Don't get snarly.  I didn't "accuse" you of anything.  But you can understand why it did not seem a coincidence that all 3 of your threads, two on the community forum and this one, all concerned situations that almost everybody knows carry no HIV transmission risk.  If you want to ask a follow up question with a civil tone, go ahead -- but otherwise you are not welcome to continue the discussion.

[H. Hunter Handsfield, M.D.]

Whether you are really asking on behalf of a friend or yourself, it is clear that you have some rather serious misunderstandings about HIV transmission.  You asked two questions a few weeks ago in the HIV community forum, both along the same no-risk lines as this one (one about HIV transmission by towels, the other by contact with a toilet seat).

HIV is transmitted by sex or by sharing injection equipment, or other kinds of direct blood exchange.  It is not transmitted by nonsexual household contact nor by the kinds of exposures you describe here.  If there is no insertion of a bare (i.e. no condom) penis into someone's vagina, rectum, or (maybe) mouth, then HIV cannot be transmitted.  Nobody in the scenarios you describe needs HIV testing.

Regards--  HHH, MD