Two Incidents - Did i put myself in to slightest risk?

[sindhurpakir]

Hi Doc,

I am 27 Yr old, uncercumsized male from singapore.

few days back i went to one massage parlor. All good when i went. after everything was fine, i asked her for happy ending. she agreed.

I was already nude. She took some oil and started applying on my dickhead/Urethra and started stroking. I asked her if she can remove her dress and she removed. It lasted for 5 minutes. in all those 5 minutes, either i was inserting my finger in to her vagina or she was doing that. in fact she was rubbing her vagina very aggressively, deeply and with her vaginal fluids still in her hand, she used to take the oil apply on my penis head and urethra and stroke it. I had a very very fresh cut in my finger, in fact it happened when she started (i hit my thumb finger in to cot) and started bleeding. My stupid without giving any second thought, i started inserting the same finger even with very very fresh cut and bleeding in to her vagina. I think i did like that for atleast one minute.

Later i came and washed my penis.

Two things involved here.

1. She applied her immediate vaginal secretion without even giving a break for a second to my penis head with oil. Please know that time difference was in seconds - May be one or two seconds thats it. I saw her hand dripping with vaginal fluids.

2. I had a fresh fresh cut which was bleeding and i inserted my finger. May be atleast half inch in to her vagina. I had a cut of approximately 1 cm which was little deeper.

3. she had any cuts which were fresh/bleeding and if her blood comes in contact with my penis head with oil used for lubrication, what are the risks?

Want to know if all these three things pose any risk? if no risk, i need little scientific explanation too.  I went through the forum and it says slight risk/No risk..

want to know if i am home free and get ready for marriage. I am getting married on 22nd of Feb,

thanks

[H. Hunter Handsfield, M.D.]

Welcome to the forum.

Fingering is also risk-free.  Probably nobody ever caught HIV from the kinds of exposures you have described.  The virus is not sexually transmitted unless a bare penis (no condom) enters another person's vagina or rectum (and maybe mouth, but very rarely).  Hand-genital contact or masturbation by a partner carries no risk, even if genital secretions are used for lubrication.  Cuts on the genitals make no significant difference.  

The scientific reasons?  HIV is hard to transmit.  Even unprotected vaginal sex (several minutes) carries a risk no higher than 1 in 1,000 if the female is infected.  The exposures you describe do not allow contact with enough virus to be a risk.  (In addition, it is probable that your partner doesn't have HIV anyway.  Most sex workers do not.)

So no risk, no worries, no need for testing, and you can be confident you cannot transmit HIV to your wife after you marry.

Best wishes--  HHH, MD

[sindhurpakir]

Hi Doctor. yes there was no direct contact between my penis and her vagina. No sex involved.

But there was an indirect contact with my penis and her vaginal secretion. Only thing that worries me is there was literally no time between see taking her vaginal secretion and applied it on my urethera and foreskin.

Second thing whihh worries me is my fresh (I really mean it because it happened there itself when she was mastrubating) and immediately after it started bleeding i inserted in to her vagina for a minute.

in both ways, i dont know if time would have made virus inactivate. So in other words i was exposed to virus indirectly in no time. Kindly consider this as well and can you rephrase your answer.

NO PENETRATIVE SEX HAPPENED THERE is for sure. one silveline for me.

[H. Hunter Handsfield, M.D.]

This doesn't change my opinion or advice.  But of course you are free to have an HIV test if the negative result would be more reassuring than my comments.

[sindhurpakir]

Thanks Doctor. Just wanted to know and make myself more comfort. I know your credentials and you are doing a great job here.

Sorry for asking question like this. but still marriage and guilt is making me to ask question like this. I am really sorry.

So without even testing, can i go ahead with my marriage with 200% surety that i am not infected with the encounter i had/Described? sorry last question. Please dont get annoyed doctor. Please answer.

Many Thanks

[H. Hunter Handsfield, M.D.]

There is nothing to be sorry for -- at least not to me -- to yourself, maybe.

"So without even testing, can i go ahead with my marriage with 200% surety that i am not infected with the encounter i had/Described?"

Yes.

[sindhurpakir]

Thanks doctor. This was the first time i had been to such place and i never had sex with anyone and i am still virgin :) I hope i am home free,, I was bit worried because in your first answer you mentioned " Probably nobody ever caught HIV from the kinds of exposures you have described" Word probably means not 100% sure.. so i was worried. I dont want to have the small slightest chance too. Thanks..

[sindhurpakir]

Hi Doctor, I was going through this

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/HIV---Prevention/Fingering-Frottage-Potential-Penetration-during-menstruation/show/2003141

I am damn scared now. has this person acquired because of fingering? penetrative sex? or mutual masterbation?

Mine was also fresh wound and it's a size ball point pen tip,, to be precise size was as same as this,, "o" this o size..

Now whats ur take on this, Please bring some light. Please

[H. Hunter Handsfield, M.D.]

Oh good grief.  The questioner himself said he isn't sure of the source of his infection.  And even if he acquired it from the exposure described, this is the ONLY case on this forum (in 10 years and thousdands of questions) in which the questioner appeared to catch HIV from an exposure s/he was worried about.  The occurrence of an extremely rare event doesn't change the chance that the same thing will happen to someone else.  When you read about someone being struck by lightning, does it increase the chance it will happen to you.

You're obviously obsessed with this situaiton, and you're spending all your emotional energy on it, including searching this forum (and probably the internet), intentionally looking for information that will confirm your fears.  It's a dumb thing to do.  I suggest you stay off the internet.

If you will feel better having an HIV test, feel free to do it.  But I don't recommended because you are at risk, only because it might help calm your fears.  But if I were you , I would not do it and I would get married as scheduled.

That will be all for this thread.  I will have no further comments or advice.  And do not be tempted to start a new thread with the same questions.  Repetative anxiety-driven questions are not permitted and it would be deleted without reply, and without refund of the posting fee.

Best wishes for a happy marriage.  Do your best to move on without worry.