Aa
Aa
A
A
A
Close
Avatar universal

Can a multi-vitamin cause palps?

Okay, in my pursuit to find triggers of my PVCs, I'm thinking my multi may be doing it.  I stopped taking it about 10 days ago and after a couple days I had no palps for a about a week.

Then one night I had some caffeine-free tea which I believe gave me a rapid heart rate for about 5 minutes.  So I thought I'd try my vitamins again.  Now I've been having PVC's again and heart racing.  I haven't changed anything else and I really want to take my vitamins.  I just bought a Calcium/Mag/Zinc supplement with 1000mg Cal and 500 mg Mag that I thought would be helpful.  I would also like to take other supplements such as DHA and possibly CoQ10, along with a multi but I'm afraid to.  I avoid all meat and dairy and eat lots of veggies, fruits and whole grains (yes, I'm vegetarian)and I've increased my consumption of dark green leafy veggies like Kale, which is very heart healthy.  I thought I was doing good, but I think the tea set me off and maybe the vitamin. Tea?  Vitamin?  Both?

I'm stumped.  Anyone have an opinion?  This forum's been such a blessing.  

BTW, I just read a book called Keeping Your Heart in Rhythm by Stuart Kalb that was very helpful.  It's about PVCs, PAC's and A-Fib.  Having them himself and having done a lot of research, he gives seven natural ways of keeping them in check.  While it could've used more editing, it was very enlightening.  

L
26 Responses
Sort by: Helpful Oldest Newest
14741096 tn?1436234643
Okay so I'm back with some good news!! I just want to share something that has worked for me for controlling PVCs for the past several days. I've been pretty much PCVs free for now about 3 days!!!! I can't tell you how excited I am. It feels like being reborn all over again (that's how horrible it is to have PVCs).

For background, I am a 34 yr old male who has suffered bad panic disorder since March 2014 after having bad reactions to Adderall and Wellbutrin. I started getting PVCs randomly for the very first time about a month ago on June 8, 2015. Not sure what caused it but I was watching Netflix around 11:30pm laying on the couch actually pretty relaxed. Without doing anything strenuous, my first PVCs started with the odd thumping in my sternum area. I was unsure what it was at first because I've never had heart palpitations before. But it continued throughout the night affecting my sleep and giving me a lot of anxiety as a result.

Long story short, I've been to ER and urgent care several times this past month (one time even on 4th of July right before watching fireworks!). I have been a complete wreck emotionally feeling down and isolated and pessimistic about life in general (I mean, who wants to live with PVCs their entire life?).

So anyway, I've been doing a lot of research and most forums will mention the usuals to take: Magnesium, CoQ10, Potassium, etc for helping with heart palps (all of them I take btw). But nothing stopped mine from happening!

Then I dug a little deeper...

I found a bunch of articles talking about TAURINE, which has been studied for heart health, including heart palpitations and even CHF. So being super desperate, I went to Vitamin Shoppe that day (Friday, July 10, 2015) to purchase taurine that day I discovered it. I purchased a 500 mg per capsule with B6 combo.

Friday July 10 - Took one capsule and still had PCVs that night.

Saturday July 11 - During the day, my PVCs are bit more tame, but I immediately took another 500 mg taurine capsule and did NOT have a SINGLE PVC the ENTIRE DAY and NIGHT!!!

Sunday July 12 - Went for 27 hours without a single PVC but got a small "thump in my chest" at 7:15 am on Sunday morning, so I got up quickly and took another taurine capsule. Then I took another capsule at 12:30 pm (about 5 hours later). Then I took another one at 9:00pm. AND SO FAR, I have not had a PVC the entire day and even as I'm typing!!!

I know it's only been a few days of being PVC free, but I was having them consistently every single day and taking the taurine almost stopped it immediately.

I am not sure how well it'll work for others here who may have different reasons for their PVCs or other heart palps, but I high recommend that others give this a try and let us know how it goes. It has worked for me and I hope it continues to work for (crossing fingers).
Helpful - 0
14741096 tn?1436234643
I started getting PVCs so randomly on June 8, 2015 around 11pm while watching TV in the evening, very much relaxed. Up until that point, I can't recall when I ever had PVCs (I'm 34 year old male). I had PVCs that entire night and was really concerned obviously because I've never had them before and they started randomly from no where! The interesting thing is I started taking a Ginger Root supplement by Radiance (550 mg) about a week before my PVCs started that my mom gave me because she said it was good for digestion. I quit taking it a few days after discovering online that ginger supplements could cause heart palpitations. But stupid me, I found another digestion enzyme capsule on sale at the store and started taking that shortly after and realized it has less than 100 mg of ginger root in there as well! I am not sure if that's what's causing my heart palps, but it could be. I also bought a multivitamn for vegetarians (I'm not vegetarian but I thought it would be healthy since it was meant for veggie eaters). I am going to QUIT COLD TURKEY today (7/6/15) and see if my heart palps stop. I get them randomly throughout the week and it always feels so uncomfortable when I feel my heart beating so hard when the PVCs begin. I take Magneisum Citrate (both powder and capsules) and drink chamomile tea and I think those two should help? Anyways, I will try to report back in about another week or two if I stop experiencing PVC's or not.

-

BY
Helpful - 0
Avatar universal
By the way...why did everybody stop posting? Any updates? Are these posts too old and Im too late?
Helpful - 0
Avatar universal
Has anybody had the opposite effect? It seems like I started to get the skipping beats pretty strong, in several increments of back to back after I stopped taking my multivitamin (One A Day Womens) and 65mg supplement! They lasted three or four days and the back to backs stopped and subtle single skips continued to about maybe five times a day. I thought maybe it was stress, because the day they started was a very stressful day and they started that evening. The next day I had a really bad panic attack when they started up, but it went away. It just scared the heck out of me, and the skips scared me too. Anyway, I was trying to figure what caused them, and thought maybe it was from stopping my multivitamin because I ran out. Id been taking them steady for almost a year and never had skips like I had, but did have occasional subtle skips here and there, for example sometimes when Id lay down. So the skips were  decreased to subtle about five or more times a day, give or take. I decided to begin a multivitamin again after googling causes and thinking it might be stress and maybe a vitamin deficiency, since I stopped taking the multis and 65mg Iron. I got some Centrum Womens this time, but only took half to begin, because Im super nervous about taking anything even though Ive never had problems with multivitamins, and took a half the next day and today was the third day of taking a half. Today I felt great! With no anxiety and maybe two very subtle skips, and feel overall good, almost normal again. So, so far Ive had positive results with multivitamins, but Ive never had problems with multivitamins before. So, has anybody had good results with multivitamins? Im still nervous though, just paranoid or scared, I have a history of recurring anxiety and the strong skips scare me. Im sure alot of you can relate! Thank you for reading this, guys!
Helpful - 0
10389859 tn?1409921868
Sounds like a good plan.  Obviously something in the MVI is setting your heart off.

In the future, instead of adding to an old thread, could you please open a new thread to avoid confusion or missing posts?  Thanks. :-)  

Hope you feel better.
Helpful - 0
Avatar universal
I started Centrum Silver for the heart about 3 months ago. Within 2 days I noticed an increase in my PVC's and palpitations. So I stopped the multi vit. I waited a month and tried them again. Next morning at 3:30 a.m. rapid heart rate while trying to sleep (81 bpm). Multiple PVC's. Some back to back. Going to quit Centrum again and this time stay off of them. I already take fish oil and vitamin E with an aspirin everyday. That's good enough.
Helpful - 0
Avatar universal
I took matters into my own hands and as a scientist studied my irregular heart beat for 10 years. It started when I started taking a lot of vitamins (and weight gain milkshakes) while training for Rugby when I was 21. It got so bad I had to go to emergency. I stopped all vitamines and the palps stopped but I did not realize it. Three years ago my doc said I had some low levels of vitamin "C" and others so I started drinking Carnation instant milk drinks (mixed with milk). Boom the Palps hit me for three weeks. So now I will embark on a two year study by taking individual supplements (vitamin E only for example for a month and that way after 16 different vitamin periods) I should know which one is the "villian"
Helpful - 0
Avatar universal
I defiantly get skip beats when I take multi vitamins, I have tried them several times and every time on about the second day, they start.... I'm not sure what it is in the Vitamin that causes them???? I may start taking single tablets one at a time to see if one of them starts the palps...
Helpful - 0
Avatar universal
check out equilib.us vitamin, it is a very clean multi that can help build your bodies mineral deficiencies back up .. and your body is most likely deficient in a few different vitamins so it is hard to tell which one is affecting you the most..

therefore you will need to take a very clean multi and start it off very slow... i.e. take about 1/10 of the multi vitamin every 5 days for the first month and then slowly decrease the days between your intake.. you will start to notice your body can handle taking the multi more often with less side effects and your palps will start going away, but it seriously takes 6 to 8 months for them to go away completely...

you unfortunately fell victim to bad practices from our farmers in our countries food supply... they have getting depleted vitamins in our food and water for the last 50 years from pesticides in vegetables and hormones and antibiotics in chicken and meat, and now your body is paying the price and its going to take time to make up for all the years of depletion..

and i end with, be weary of taking individual vitamins like calcium and magnesium alone because many vitamins do not get absorbed in the body without other vitamins present, and remember your body always wants to be in balance so if you up your bodies percentage of 1 specific vitamin another one will have to go down to balance out .. so stick with a clean simple multi ...
Helpful - 0
Avatar universal
go to   www.vitacost.com  in the search type in cardiolift version 6
it's a great vitamin.
dixter
Helpful - 0
Avatar universal
my multivitamins didint cause heart palpitations but made me feel like someone was poking me really hard in the side of my chest. i stopped taking them and the pain stopped. are we allowed to say what brand they are? you mentioned that yours where vegan, mine are aswell, where yours GNC?
Helpful - 0
Avatar universal
Hi,
I also question whether multi-vitamins are causing palpatations. I have connected that my phases of palpatations have been related to times in my life that I have taken multivitamins (pregnancies, illnesses, etc). I have also in the last 2 years been made aware that although my stored iron is always on the low side, my iron that is not stored is high. This elevated iron caused my doc to run a genetic test for hemochromatosis. This is a disorder that can cause iron overload. It is actually quite common yet often missed as docs routinely do not do a complete iron panel...they often only check your stored iron. When your body has access iron, one of the symptoms can be an irregular heartbeat...another can be disorders of the thyroid. Taking any vitamin c - which is in multivitamins - will aid your body's ability to absorb iron...which if you have any iron overload disorder...will worsen it. They body has a very limited ability to shed access iron (through nail and hair loss) and if there is access it will begin to store in your organs and can eventually shut them down. If you have iron overload it is treatable through removing blood as one does when donating blood. Untreated it can do irriversable damage. I suggest anyone with irregular heart beat, or thyroid issues be certain that their total body iron be evaluated. Best of luck.
Helpful - 0
Avatar universal
Yes folks pitch those multivits that advertise energy formulas with herbs in them.........you may tolerate them for a long time but the cumulative effect of a stimulant starts to work on you...........

the good news is that stopping that vit cold turkey will see results in weeks of reversing itself from the months and years that it took to bother you....

BTW...Inositol is a B vitamin complex component.....found in Grapfruit it is a metabolising vitamin that provides the midocrondra energy in the body......at normal levels it is esential for health.

Vandium is a trace mineral found in the diet.....probably not needed in a vit formula as there is some question to its validity as a suppliment.

However, it is in such small amounts in a multi formula I doubt it is an issue........

Hope this helps...
Helpful - 0
Avatar universal
Yeah, my multi has ginsing and ginko biloba...

And I was wondering the same thing. I think it is one of the things I switched right around the time I kind of noticed my palps - I think...  It may just be wishful thinking.

I'm going to try switching from the Members Mark that I have now - back to Centrum - with out the herbs and see what happens...
Helpful - 0
Avatar universal
abl: You have given me so much info.  I really appreciate your help.  I will look at the website and see if I can figure out this test and the Mag one.

PghPanther: You may be on to something.  I have found that my Pvcs come from both tea, caffeinated and caffeine-free, and multi-vitamins.  I only started drinking tea last year, and it took about 9 months to feel palps.  Also, my multi is a different one than I used to take and I started taking that last year too.  If indeed they use herbs in vitamins, then that may be the link.  Or there is some other link between tea and the vitamin. The only odd ingredients in the vitamin are Inositol and Vanadium.  I have no idea what these are.

I have a lot of research to do.  I'll let you know what I find.  You've been a great help.

angelinax2:  I'm so glad someone else was wondering the same thing.  I started taking mine again the other day, because I felt like I should and guess what, they came back for a couple days.  So I stopped and now my Pvcs are gone again.  Go figure.  I used to take another brand and had no problems, so I'm wondering what makes these different.  Or maybe it is calcium like abl said.  Although I have no problems with calcium fortified foods.  

Just a thought for all of you, any chance palps could be a result of an allergy to certain foods, ingredients, additives, vitamins...  I have a lot of sensitivities to things, not foods so much, but to chemical type substances.  I was just wondering.

L
Helpful - 0
Avatar universal
couple components of multiple vits can cause palps including calcium and zinc......

but the real culprit could be some hidden herbs that are stimulants....

Many vitamin company's use a formula where they claim "gives you energy"............vitamins do not give you energy....

Check the lable very carefully for gurana, ginseng, kola nut, anything you don't recognize as a vitamin and or mineral....

Odds are it is a some stimulant containing caffeine or worse that can set off the the palps.........

Amazing they do this to a multivit but everyone is trying to hook you to an energy high these days....

Some multivits don't contain stimulants.......check the label and put it back on the shelf if you can't figure out what is in it.

Helpful - 0
Avatar universal
abl
"Did they mention if the calcium imbalance could be due to Hyper Thyroid or Hypo Thyroid?"

They only said thyroid disorder, so I take that to mean all, a goiter, hypo, hyper, graves disease, and/or hashi's disease.  

"Were they any diagrams that show where to apply pressure to perform the test?"

I cut and pasted "how to" right from the article.  Google Chvotsek's (check spelling I don't have it right in front of me)  test, and see if they have a picture somewhere else.  But, just tap literally around teh front of both ears, and see if there is any twitching in the eye, nose or mouth area.  If there is a problem, it will twitch!!!  I was checking on some other deficiency years ago (magnesium I think), and you tap your cheek, just a tap, to see if your lip twitches.  Well, mine twitched so bad, I thought, everyone's must.  But when I tested everyone else, there mouths didn't move at all, like they all had been numbed.  Mine literally looked like I was trying to imitate Elvis, with a little tap.  Mine doesn't twitch anymore, I corrected that other problem through diet.  

Hope this helps.  And the only reason I even bring thyroid into any of this, is because of my own personal experience, with a goiter growing and heart palp's starting in teh same year.  Oh, that and my cardiologist in three years has never once checked my thyroid for anything.  

Hope this helps, and let me know how teh tap test goes for any who tries it.  

take care!

abl
Helpful - 0
Avatar universal
I just asked someone that question last week!  Could my multivit have caused my arrhythmia.  My arrhythmia started when I was 35- the same time I started my multivit.  Of course, everyone told me the answer was no. But, everybody is different-and you just never know.  I am still taking the multivit, but I think I will go off of it for a while and see what happens with my PAC's/PVC's.  So interesting to hear someone else had the same thought as me.  We'll see what happens.
Helpful - 0
Avatar universal
Did they mention if the calcium imbalance could be due to Hyper Thyroid or Hypo Thyroid?

Were they any diagrams that show where to apply pressur to perform the test?

If so, please provide a link to the site...
Helpful - 0
Avatar universal
abl
HI you!
On a hunch,, ( I always listen to my inner voice) , I looked up electrolyte imbalance.  Don't know why, don't ask me why, I am in no way, shape or form a physician or specialist, just a person looking for answers too.  When I googled, I clicked on teh first article and this is what I found...

Calcium

HYPERCALCEMIA

Blood calcium levels may be elevated in cases of thyroid disorder, multiple myeloma, metastatic cancer, multiple bone fractures, milk-alkali syndrome, and Paget's disease. Excessive use of calcium-containing supplements and certain over-the-counter medications (i.e., antacids) may also cause hypercalcemia. In infants, lesser known causes may include blue diaper syndrome, Williams syndrome, secondary hyperparathyroidism from maternal hypocalcemia, and dietary phosphate deficiency. Symptoms include:

fatigue
constipation
depression
confusion
muscle pain
nausea and vomiting
dehydration
increased urination
irregular heartbeat (arrhythmia)

Now, I thought that was pretty weird, knowing you and I had discussed the possibility of thyroid stuff, and here it was talking about possible elevated levels of calcium from thyroid and that clacium containing supplements might indeed affect it!!!  I was in shock!!!  Anyhow, so by this article your answer is yes, the multi could be causing heart palp's, but only if your thyroid is acting funny, or the other reasons they listed.  

Hope this helps!!!

Take care!

abl
Helpful - 0
Avatar universal
abl
Hi again!

Here's more info from the bottom of that same page.  I then googled teh "test" so you could check it at home.  I tested myself and no twitching.  

If a calcium imbalance is suspected, the physician will also check for Chvostek's sign, a reflex test that triggers an involuntary facial twitch, and Trousseau's sign, a muscle spasm that occurs in response to pressure on the upper arm.

Chvostek's sign

Chvostek's sign is contraction of the muscles of the eye, mouth or nose, elicited by tapping along the course of the facial nerve. The examiner taps gently over the facial nerve in front of the ear.

Heck, at least a test you can conduct at home.  And maybe some sort of answer...


abl
Helpful - 0
Avatar universal
Yes, he does.  However he is an attorney as opposed to a physician.  He only knows what we already know in that respect.  And this book is only for those with a structurally normal heart who have pvcs, pacs, etc. I mainly purchased the book for the "natural methods" to control pvcs and his other insights, to save me having to go to a lot of doctors and doing a lot or research myself.  

He does say some interesting things about the medical community and drugs that is quite interesting.  I do like his perspective.

L
Helpful - 0
Avatar universal
Thanks!

I'm not familiar with CoEnzyme 10 or Nattokinase?

I'll have to look into those.

But, I was actually asking if the author indicates that with a structurally normal heart that the PVC's are safe and won't evolve into a harmful arythmia?
Helpful - 0
61536 tn?1340698163
One thing I have learned is that different things affect different people in different ways.  While it seems really unlikely, it's probably possible.  Try switching vitamins?
Helpful - 0
2
Have an Answer?

You are reading content posted in the Heart Disease Community

Top Heart Disease Answerers
159619 tn?1707018272
Salt Lake City, UT
11548417 tn?1506080564
Netherlands
Learn About Top Answerers
Didn't find the answer you were looking for?
Ask a question
Popular Resources
Is a low-fat diet really that heart healthy after all? James D. Nicolantonio, PharmD, urges us to reconsider decades-long dietary guidelines.
Can depression and anxiety cause heart disease? Get the facts in this Missouri Medicine report.
Fish oil, folic acid, vitamin C. Find out if these supplements are heart-healthy or overhyped.
Learn what happens before, during and after a heart attack occurs.
What are the pros and cons of taking fish oil for heart health? Find out in this article from Missouri Medicine.
How to lower your heart attack risk.